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	<title>Comments on: The Truth About The Truth About The Truth About Cars’ Take About Newspaper Car Reviews</title>
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		<title>By: Sherman Lin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherman Lin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 07:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t matter 
autowritersdotecom google rank zero
SamMosesdotcom google rank zero

TheTruthaboutcar.com googlerank seven

I doubt if they attract as large an audience in a month what TTAC attracts in a day.  I believe TTAC is possibly in the top 25000 websites which is phenomenal.

TTAC is already the 800 pound gorilla that cannot be ignored. (Although they might pretend to ignore TTAC)

It would not totally surprise me if Mr. Moses’ attack is simply a proxy for others who feel their meal ticket is perhaps being threatened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->It doesn&#8217;t matter<br />
autowritersdotecom google rank zero<br />
SamMosesdotcom google rank zero</p>
<p>TheTruthaboutcar.com googlerank seven</p>
<p>I doubt if they attract as large an audience in a month what TTAC attracts in a day.  I believe TTAC is possibly in the top 25000 websites which is phenomenal.</p>
<p>TTAC is already the 800 pound gorilla that cannot be ignored. (Although they might pretend to ignore TTAC)</p>
<p>It would not totally surprise me if Mr. Moses’ attack is simply a proxy for others who feel their meal ticket is perhaps being threatened.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jthorner</title>
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		<dc:creator>jthorner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 10:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;to Mr. Moses’ reviews of the 2008 Jeep Compass, 2008 Dodge Durango or 2007 Cadillac XLR.&quot;

I spent a few minutes trying to read them.  Wow, his stuff is simply horrid.  Typical of the manufacturer friendly pablum you find in the &quot;Drive&quot; advertorial sections of the weekend newspaper.  And the writing, damn it&#039;s bad.  I need to go read some Calvin and Hobbes strips to cleanse the mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&#8220;to Mr. Moses’ reviews of the 2008 Jeep Compass, 2008 Dodge Durango or 2007 Cadillac XLR.&#8221;</p>
<p>I spent a few minutes trying to read them.  Wow, his stuff is simply horrid.  Typical of the manufacturer friendly pablum you find in the &#8220;Drive&#8221; advertorial sections of the weekend newspaper.  And the writing, damn it&#8217;s bad.  I need to go read some Calvin and Hobbes strips to cleanse the mind.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: benders</title>
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		<dc:creator>benders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 23:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like TTAC because we can all read about every car&#039;s new features (in local newspaper reviews) that say this car has a retractable hardtop or a redesigned interior but TTAC is the only outlet that tells you if the retractable hardtop sucks or the new interior is dull and unwelcoming or if transvestites will hit on you in this car.

And TTAC does it with the flair and daring wordplay the other reviews won&#039;t (mostly because you can&#039;t copy and paste &#039;flying vagina&#039; if it doesn&#039;t appear in the manufacturer&#039;s press release).  Mr. Moses seems to think that auto reviews should be nothing more than lists of numbers and available features.  Any moron can do that.  It takes real writing to write to people who actually seek out the &#039;good technical information&#039; for themselves and know how a car stacks up on paper against the competition.  

And WTF is a Clog?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I like TTAC because we can all read about every car&#8217;s new features (in local newspaper reviews) that say this car has a retractable hardtop or a redesigned interior but TTAC is the only outlet that tells you if the retractable hardtop sucks or the new interior is dull and unwelcoming or if transvestites will hit on you in this car.</p>
<p>And TTAC does it with the flair and daring wordplay the other reviews won&#8217;t (mostly because you can&#8217;t copy and paste &#8216;flying vagina&#8217; if it doesn&#8217;t appear in the manufacturer&#8217;s press release).  Mr. Moses seems to think that auto reviews should be nothing more than lists of numbers and available features.  Any moron can do that.  It takes real writing to write to people who actually seek out the &#8216;good technical information&#8217; for themselves and know how a car stacks up on paper against the competition.  </p>
<p>And WTF is a Clog?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Strippo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Strippo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 20:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;If Moses is right about a pop-up ad for the Dodge Journey suddenly obscuring the text while he was reading the article - that’s letting the side down and definitely embarrassing.&lt;/em&gt;

I do hate when that happens. OTOH, NCTD considers the Journey &quot;a crossover SUV with big utility&quot; and &quot;with intelligent cabin design and the availability of family friendly entertainment features. For the young family on the go, the Journey will offer a pleasant ride, plenty of room, and enough storage and entertainment options to keep the kids occupied.&quot; Yet TTAC calls it cheap, forgettable, and doomed to failure (paraphrasing), alleged annoying ad notwithstanding. So I guess I&#039;m not getting the joke Moses finds so funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>If Moses is right about a pop-up ad for the Dodge Journey suddenly obscuring the text while he was reading the article &#8211; that’s letting the side down and definitely embarrassing.</em></p>
<p>I do hate when that happens. OTOH, NCTD considers the Journey &#8220;a crossover SUV with big utility&#8221; and &#8220;with intelligent cabin design and the availability of family friendly entertainment features. For the young family on the go, the Journey will offer a pleasant ride, plenty of room, and enough storage and entertainment options to keep the kids occupied.&#8221; Yet TTAC calls it cheap, forgettable, and doomed to failure (paraphrasing), alleged annoying ad notwithstanding. So I guess I&#8217;m not getting the joke Moses finds so funny.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Gregzilla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregzilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 19:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK....so Sam wrote &quot;Fast Guys, Rich Guys, and Idiots&quot;......which of those is he now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->OK&#8230;.so Sam wrote &#8220;Fast Guys, Rich Guys, and Idiots&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;which of those is he now?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: philbailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>philbailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 19:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Moses is right about a pop-up ad for the Dodge Journey suddenly obscuring the text while he was reading the article - that&#039;s letting the side down and definitely embarrassing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->If Moses is right about a pop-up ad for the Dodge Journey suddenly obscuring the text while he was reading the article &#8211; that&#8217;s letting the side down and definitely embarrassing.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: driving course</title>
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		<dc:creator>driving course</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 18:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried reading the new car test drive review on the 2007_Porsche_911...
I stopped and decided if I wanted to read a price list I may as well go to Porsche for it.
Mr Moses should keep satisfying his ten readers and not venture forth imho.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I tried reading the new car test drive review on the 2007_Porsche_911&#8230;<br />
I stopped and decided if I wanted to read a price list I may as well go to Porsche for it.<br />
Mr Moses should keep satisfying his ten readers and not venture forth imho.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: mlbrown</title>
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		<dc:creator>mlbrown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 18:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a multiple award-winning journalist, I can tell you that you&#039;re not doing it right until everyone is pissed at you.

Keep up the good work.

And count me among those who do not come here looking for car stats. I come here already knowing all that shit. I come here because I want your take on all the subjective stuff.

-Matt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->As a multiple award-winning journalist, I can tell you that you&#8217;re not doing it right until everyone is pissed at you.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work.</p>
<p>And count me among those who do not come here looking for car stats. I come here already knowing all that shit. I come here because I want your take on all the subjective stuff.</p>
<p>-Matt<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Landcrusher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Landcrusher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 16:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you intend to speak the truth, have one foot in the stirrup.&quot;

You must be doing something right guys, keep it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&#8220;If you intend to speak the truth, have one foot in the stirrup.&#8221;</p>
<p>You must be doing something right guys, keep it up.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Ingvar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ingvar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 15:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wooohoooo !!!! Cat fight!

*fetching the popcorns*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Wooohoooo !!!! Cat fight!</p>
<p>*fetching the popcorns*<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Sajeev Mehta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sajeev Mehta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 15:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judging by the Aveo review  &lt;em&gt;mxfive4 &lt;/em&gt;posted, we have another Texas Auto Writer in Sam Moses. 

And to think that Bill and I &lt;em&gt;used &lt;/em&gt;to wonder why the Texas Auto Writers Association jilted us on several occasions. Same song, different tune.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Judging by the Aveo review  <em>mxfive4 </em>posted, we have another Texas Auto Writer in Sam Moses. </p>
<p>And to think that Bill and I <em>used </em>to wonder why the Texas Auto Writers Association jilted us on several occasions. Same song, different tune.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Gotta Chime In</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gotta Chime In</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 14:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To focus on the issues at hand: as a longtime reader (seldom commenter) I better appreciate what TTAC is up against. Sam&#039;s article serves to attack Frank&#039;s journalistic integrity and defend the flawed institution in question. And he labels his article as the truth.

The first paragraph of this site&#039;s FAQs hits the nail on the head. Status quos be damned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->To focus on the issues at hand: as a longtime reader (seldom commenter) I better appreciate what TTAC is up against. Sam&#8217;s article serves to attack Frank&#8217;s journalistic integrity and defend the flawed institution in question. And he labels his article as the truth.</p>
<p>The first paragraph of this site&#8217;s FAQs hits the nail on the head. Status quos be damned.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Farago</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Farago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 14:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;William C. Montgomery:

If you judge a man by the quality of his enemies…
I think I’m embarrassed. If TTAC’s enemies are powerful then by the reasoning of this maxim, TTAC would be a worthy publication. But since Sam Moses is our enemy… uh, are we really this pathetic?&lt;/em&gt;

Well, now that you&#039;ve pointed that out &lt;em&gt;you&#039;re&lt;/em&gt; our enemy, restoring our lost honor. Just kidding. Your ed&#039;s in the queue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>William C. Montgomery:</p>
<p>If you judge a man by the quality of his enemies…<br />
I think I’m embarrassed. If TTAC’s enemies are powerful then by the reasoning of this maxim, TTAC would be a worthy publication. But since Sam Moses is our enemy… uh, are we really this pathetic?</em></p>
<p>Well, now that you&#8217;ve pointed that out <em>you&#8217;re</em> our enemy, restoring our lost honor. Just kidding. Your ed&#8217;s in the queue.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: William C Montgomery</title>
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		<dc:creator>William C Montgomery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 14:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;If you judge a man by the quality of his enemies…&lt;/em&gt;
I think I’m embarrassed.  If TTAC’s enemies are powerful then by the reasoning of this maxim, TTAC would be a worthy publication.  But since Sam Moses is our enemy… uh, are we really this pathetic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>If you judge a man by the quality of his enemies…</em><br />
I think I’m embarrassed.  If TTAC’s enemies are powerful then by the reasoning of this maxim, TTAC would be a worthy publication.  But since Sam Moses is our enemy… uh, are we really this pathetic?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Farago</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Farago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 13:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;edgett:

And if you’re going to publish The Truth about Anything, be prepared for the slings and arrows. Truth is a rare commodity these days.&lt;/em&gt;

We are situationally aware and combat ready. I printed this piece because it&#039;s important to define TTAC as much as for what it ISN&#039;T as what it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>edgett:</p>
<p>And if you’re going to publish The Truth about Anything, be prepared for the slings and arrows. Truth is a rare commodity these days.</em></p>
<p>We are situationally aware and combat ready. I printed this piece because it&#8217;s important to define TTAC as much as for what it ISN&#8217;T as what it is.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: edgett</title>
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		<dc:creator>edgett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 13:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert - while I can understand your pique at Sam Moses&#039; shot, it is every bit as light and insubstantial as his car &quot;reviews&quot;. It more or less speaks for itself.

And if you&#039;re going to publish The Truth about Anything, be prepared for the slings and arrows. Truth is a rare commodity these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Robert &#8211; while I can understand your pique at Sam Moses&#8217; shot, it is every bit as light and insubstantial as his car &#8220;reviews&#8221;. It more or less speaks for itself.</p>
<p>And if you&#8217;re going to publish The Truth about Anything, be prepared for the slings and arrows. Truth is a rare commodity these days.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Strippo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Strippo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 13:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NCTD.com has the dubious distinction of being the review site CarsDirect and Carmax both prefer when republishing whole reviews. There&#039;s a reason for that.</description>
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		<title>By: gamper</title>
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		<dc:creator>gamper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 13:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry I didnt take the time to read through all the comments, but I would have to agree on some level with Mr. Moses.  Referring to your own words as the truth doesnt necessarily make it so, even entitling your website as &quot;The Truth&quot; doesnt necessarily make it so.  There is a lot of good things about this site but the mandatory witticisms and tendancy to insert subjective politics into what would otherwise be an objective news article do tend to take their toll on &quot;The Truth&quot;.  Anyone who follows the artles and reviews on this site knows first hand what I am talking about.  The fact that I dont cite a particular incident(s) has little to do with the truth of the matter asserted.  One has only to look through the majority of the comments to see exactly who the audience is, which in my opinion adds credibility to Mr. Moses&#039; little tirade.  

Lets face it, TTAC does a great job of making their reporting entertaining for the reader, regardless of whether you agree with the underlying premise or following conclusions.  But that type of writing doesnt generally lend itself well to objectivity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Sorry I didnt take the time to read through all the comments, but I would have to agree on some level with Mr. Moses.  Referring to your own words as the truth doesnt necessarily make it so, even entitling your website as &#8220;The Truth&#8221; doesnt necessarily make it so.  There is a lot of good things about this site but the mandatory witticisms and tendancy to insert subjective politics into what would otherwise be an objective news article do tend to take their toll on &#8220;The Truth&#8221;.  Anyone who follows the artles and reviews on this site knows first hand what I am talking about.  The fact that I dont cite a particular incident(s) has little to do with the truth of the matter asserted.  One has only to look through the majority of the comments to see exactly who the audience is, which in my opinion adds credibility to Mr. Moses&#8217; little tirade.  </p>
<p>Lets face it, TTAC does a great job of making their reporting entertaining for the reader, regardless of whether you agree with the underlying premise or following conclusions.  But that type of writing doesnt generally lend itself well to objectivity.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: lewissalem</title>
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		<dc:creator>lewissalem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 13:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;website&quot; that he writes for looks like it was designed in 1994, and it uses an outdated programming language: ColdFusion.  I have been a web developer for over ten years, that website needs some help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The &#8220;website&#8221; that he writes for looks like it was designed in 1994, and it uses an outdated programming language: ColdFusion.  I have been a web developer for over ten years, that website needs some help.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: mxfive4</title>
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		<dc:creator>mxfive4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 12:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having worked at a &quot;newspaper company&quot; for years here is my fundamental problem with these &quot;journalists&quot;.

- Most &quot;reviews&quot; are warmed over press releases
- If they actually test drove the car they feel obligated to marginalize the negative aspects and pimp the &quot;positive&quot; aspects - no matter the car. 

After all the dealers of those cars are their one of their biggest revenue streams (come on - you didn&#039;t the 60pt &quot;Sunday Sunday Sunday&quot; heading on the back of the sports section was cheap did you?)

Hence Sam I Am&#039;s &quot;modest interior materials and build quality&quot; comment regarding the Compass.

Saying the Compass has &quot;modest interior materials&quot; is like saying I am modestly tall (I am 5&#039;6&quot;). Sammy, short is short and cheap is cheap.

I love the fact that the guy who wrote this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.automallusa.net/2005/chevrolet/aveo/reviews.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; article&lt;/a&gt; on the Chevy Aveo which spends this entire paragraph pimping the Aveo&#039;s safety

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Aveo aced the Federal frontal crash test with five stars for both driver and passenger. The body structure is designed to provide as much crash protection as possible. The cabin is built like a steel cage, with steel members running vertically from the door hinge up the A-pillars to the roofline, then back to reinforced B- and C-pillars, and down to the rocker panels. Each of the four doors contains a side-impact beam which when hit directs energy up through the side rails to a large front longitudinal member, then through a flat crossmember to the front axle and wheelhouse and finally down to the fender-door support.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Conveniently left out the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iihs.org/ratings/ratingsbyseries.aspx?id=585&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;IIHS scores&lt;/a&gt; for the Aveo, including its Marginal side impact test results.

At best it is a horrible omission at worst it is misleading.

Sam - where is the truth in that? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Having worked at a &#8220;newspaper company&#8221; for years here is my fundamental problem with these &#8220;journalists&#8221;.</p>
<p>- Most &#8220;reviews&#8221; are warmed over press releases<br />
- If they actually test drove the car they feel obligated to marginalize the negative aspects and pimp the &#8220;positive&#8221; aspects &#8211; no matter the car. </p>
<p>After all the dealers of those cars are their one of their biggest revenue streams (come on &#8211; you didn&#8217;t the 60pt &#8220;Sunday Sunday Sunday&#8221; heading on the back of the sports section was cheap did you?)</p>
<p>Hence Sam I Am&#8217;s &#8220;modest interior materials and build quality&#8221; comment regarding the Compass.</p>
<p>Saying the Compass has &#8220;modest interior materials&#8221; is like saying I am modestly tall (I am 5&#8242;6&#8243;). Sammy, short is short and cheap is cheap.</p>
<p>I love the fact that the guy who wrote this <a href="http://www.automallusa.net/2005/chevrolet/aveo/reviews.html" rel="nofollow"> article</a> on the Chevy Aveo which spends this entire paragraph pimping the Aveo&#8217;s safety</p>
<blockquote><p><i>Aveo aced the Federal frontal crash test with five stars for both driver and passenger. The body structure is designed to provide as much crash protection as possible. The cabin is built like a steel cage, with steel members running vertically from the door hinge up the A-pillars to the roofline, then back to reinforced B- and C-pillars, and down to the rocker panels. Each of the four doors contains a side-impact beam which when hit directs energy up through the side rails to a large front longitudinal member, then through a flat crossmember to the front axle and wheelhouse and finally down to the fender-door support.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Conveniently left out the <a href="http://www.iihs.org/ratings/ratingsbyseries.aspx?id=585" rel="nofollow">IIHS scores</a> for the Aveo, including its Marginal side impact test results.</p>
<p>At best it is a horrible omission at worst it is misleading.</p>
<p>Sam &#8211; where is the truth in that?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Strippo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Strippo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 12:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;For examples of how a “better journalist” who recognizes “the threat of corporate media and non-critical reporting in pursuit of revenue” writes a review, may I direct your attention to Mr. Moses’ reviews of the 2008 Jeep Compass, 2008 Dodge Durango or 2007 Cadillac XLR.&lt;/em&gt;

That&#039;s probably the cruelest, most entertaining sentence I&#039;ve read all month. Not bad for an idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>For examples of how a “better journalist” who recognizes “the threat of corporate media and non-critical reporting in pursuit of revenue” writes a review, may I direct your attention to Mr. Moses’ reviews of the 2008 Jeep Compass, 2008 Dodge Durango or 2007 Cadillac XLR.</em></p>
<p>That&#8217;s probably the cruelest, most entertaining sentence I&#8217;ve read all month. Not bad for an idiot.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Tommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 11:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has nothing to do with &quot;thin skin.&quot;

C&#039;mon, how would you take it if someone walks into a room, points at your buddy/brother/friend and exclaims &quot;What an idiot!&quot;  It&#039;s childish, cowardly, and if you take it apart, flimsy.

Oh wait am I describing the attack on Frank Williams or Sam Moses&#039; car reviews?

The irony of course is that the &quot;truth&quot; is being tossed around so many times in Sam Moses&#039; article.  Truth?  Please.  I&#039;d love to see if he has any more biting words when confronted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->This has nothing to do with &#8220;thin skin.&#8221;</p>
<p>C&#8217;mon, how would you take it if someone walks into a room, points at your buddy/brother/friend and exclaims &#8220;What an idiot!&#8221;  It&#8217;s childish, cowardly, and if you take it apart, flimsy.</p>
<p>Oh wait am I describing the attack on Frank Williams or Sam Moses&#8217; car reviews?</p>
<p>The irony of course is that the &#8220;truth&#8221; is being tossed around so many times in Sam Moses&#8217; article.  Truth?  Please.  I&#8217;d love to see if he has any more biting words when confronted.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Frank Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 11:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;steronz 
How does “[BTW: Keane also mentions that a Chrysler engineer accompanied him on the test drive. Nope. No bias shown there.]” (Frank’s words) all that different from “He says that to get information from an engineer is a sign of bias?”&lt;/em&gt;

I have no problem getting information from an engineer, if you have an engineering question or want to know something about the development of the vehicle.  However, I do have a problem with an engineer (or anyone else with a vested interested in seeing that the car gets a good review) accompanying a reviewer on a test drive -- unless of course, the vehicle is either so shoddy you need someone along to put it back together as it falls apart or is so complicated it takes someone who designed it to explain how it works.  If that makes me an &quot;aggressively ignorant&quot; &quot;idiot,&quot; then so be it.

For examples of how a &quot;better journalist&quot; who recognizes &quot;the threat of corporate media and non-critical reporting in pursuit of revenue&quot; writes a review, may I direct your attention to Mr. Moses&#039; reviews of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newcartestdrive.com/review-final.cfm?Vehicle=2008_Jeep_Compass&amp;ReviewID=4349&quot;&gt;2008 Jeep Compass&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newcartestdrive.com/review-final.cfm?Vehicle=2008_Dodge_Durango&amp;ReviewID=3400&quot;&gt;2008 Dodge Durango&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newcartestdrive.com/review-intro.cfm?Vehicle=2007_Cadillac_XLR&amp;ReviewID=3498&quot;&gt;2007 Cadillac XLR&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>steronz<br />
How does “[BTW: Keane also mentions that a Chrysler engineer accompanied him on the test drive. Nope. No bias shown there.]” (Frank’s words) all that different from “He says that to get information from an engineer is a sign of bias?”</em></p>
<p>I have no problem getting information from an engineer, if you have an engineering question or want to know something about the development of the vehicle.  However, I do have a problem with an engineer (or anyone else with a vested interested in seeing that the car gets a good review) accompanying a reviewer on a test drive &#8212; unless of course, the vehicle is either so shoddy you need someone along to put it back together as it falls apart or is so complicated it takes someone who designed it to explain how it works.  If that makes me an &#8220;aggressively ignorant&#8221; &#8220;idiot,&#8221; then so be it.</p>
<p>For examples of how a &#8220;better journalist&#8221; who recognizes &#8220;the threat of corporate media and non-critical reporting in pursuit of revenue&#8221; writes a review, may I direct your attention to Mr. Moses&#8217; reviews of the <a href="http://www.newcartestdrive.com/review-final.cfm?Vehicle=2008_Jeep_Compass&#038;ReviewID=4349">2008 Jeep Compass</a>, <a href="http://www.newcartestdrive.com/review-final.cfm?Vehicle=2008_Dodge_Durango&#038;ReviewID=3400">2008 Dodge Durango</a> or <a href="http://www.newcartestdrive.com/review-intro.cfm?Vehicle=2007_Cadillac_XLR&#038;ReviewID=3498">2007 Cadillac XLR</a>.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: lprocter1982</title>
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		<dc:creator>lprocter1982</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 06:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I can’t even say a bad word about a car to a salesman&quot;

I can. I was looking at a Sebring at a Hyundai dealership one time, and the salesman said, and I&#039;m not kidding, &quot;This is one of the best cars you can buy.&quot; So, because I had time to waste, and I really wanted to see how bad the Sebring was, I took it for a little test drive. Well, it was an 05, and it rattled and squeaked like a 10 year old rental car, among other things. So, when I got back, the salesman asked me how I liked it. I said, &quot;That&#039;s the worst car I&#039;ve ever driven.&quot; And left.</description>
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<p>I can. I was looking at a Sebring at a Hyundai dealership one time, and the salesman said, and I&#8217;m not kidding, &#8220;This is one of the best cars you can buy.&#8221; So, because I had time to waste, and I really wanted to see how bad the Sebring was, I took it for a little test drive. Well, it was an 05, and it rattled and squeaked like a 10 year old rental car, among other things. So, when I got back, the salesman asked me how I liked it. I said, &#8220;That&#8217;s the worst car I&#8217;ve ever driven.&#8221; And left.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: seoultrain</title>
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		<dc:creator>seoultrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 06:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JL, that is some hilarious stuff. I wish I could pick apart cars in front of the people who worked on them. I can&#039;t even say a bad word about a car to a salesman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->JL, that is some hilarious stuff. I wish I could pick apart cars in front of the people who worked on them. I can&#8217;t even say a bad word about a car to a salesman.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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