Oh my god I cant stop laughing!

What I don’t understand is this.

Corvette Z06 features include:
• LS7 7.0-liter/427-cubic-inch Gen IV V-8 engine with lightweight reciprocating components
• 505 horsepower (373 kw) @ 6300 rpm
• 470 lb.-ft. of torque (657 Nm) @ 4800 rpm
• 6-speed manual transmission
• 7000 rpm redline

Curb weight 3130

Nissan R35 GTR
The engine designation is VR38DETT (Twin Turbocharged 3.8-liter V6) 60-degree vee angle and bore spacing with Nissan’s acclaimed VQ-Series, which is used in everything from the 350Z to several Infiniti SUVs. Few parts are shared between the two engine series.
7000 rpm redline
The engine performance of the 3 trims is the same
IHI turbos with integrated exhaust manifolds
10.2 psi (Car and Driver)
473 horsepower @ 6400 rpms

433 pound-feet of torque from 3200 to 5200 rpm.

Weight 1740 kg /3836 lbs ( 1730 with titanium muffler – 3814 lbs) (Autoweek – 3792 lbs)

The corvette has more power, more torque….weights less.
I guess there is a replacement for displacement…. Its called technology. Welcome to 2008. Big Ole V8s in cars don’t rule the world anymore!

Corvette
Acceleration, 0-60 MPH: 3.76
Quarter Mile 11.61@126.55

R35
Acceleration, 0-60 mph in 3.5 seconds
Quarter Mile 11.7 seconds in the quarter mile

Official nurburgring times
http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=3&fID=0&tID=10073

don’t forget to look at the two lap times for the GTR… for a second i didn’t even think there was a Corvette time ;)

They lied about this and propaganda that… What ever helps you sleep at night pal!

There is no evidence of anyone doing a standing start, not GM, no one.

All tires ever used on the R35 have been factory stock tires. Not cut slicks. And there is much more…

There is so much false information that the article should be removed.

To me, that means it is better at the drag strip than the road course….nothing could be further from the truth.

I never lumped this car in the “straight line only” category. I never said that the new ‘Vettes handled poorly – if anything, I said the opposite. And when did I mention anything about Mustangs or Camaros? Jesus, take a step back and chill – nobody can deny how great of a car the Corvette line is and has been, and I NEVER put down it’s cornering capabilities.

Read my post again (and ignore the typo)..

(What’s with the given hostility?! I thought my post commented positively on BOTH vehicles… that was my point, anyway.)

Have you actually driven a Vette built since 1984 on a track or a curvy mountain road? Do you know how Corvettes dominated SCCA competition in the 80s, and how competitive modern Z06s are at any track in the States?

People who mistakenly lump Vettes in the same “straight line only” category as a Mustang or Camaro really run the risk of sounding exceptionally ignorant.

The ‘Vette, whether you like GM or not, has always been a cheap, crazy-powered rocket (all things compared equally). Not the best by any means, but for the price, impressive. Not saying that it corners bad, but ‘Vettes are more of a straight-line carn.

The GT-R seems to be the ‘Vette for the “next generation” of car nuts (and as time has proven, the majority of defenders will never own one). While the ‘Vette is the Cheap-King of straights, the GT-R is the cheap-king of corners (and poor conditions).

How many people will actually debate over which one to buy? As posted before, these are more fanboy cars than anything, so while in the same market, a lot of the buyers won’t care one way or the other (nor drive these cars to their potential). In the midst of this, GM will take some notes from the GT-R, and Nissan from the ‘Vette. Both of these cars will benefit from these improvements (GM might look more into the technology aspect, while Nissan might offer a larger engine or more “driver-feel”), while neither really compete.

Hopefully (and these are some high hopes), these improvements will start to gently trickle down the line for those of us who can’t afford said cars. Maybe an AWD Z model (might cross more into Skyline territory, but semantics aside…), or a RWD small-car from either manufacturer, or something… Either way, I still don’t see this as a competition. They are both awesome cars for their intended purpose, and besides, who drives a sports car sporty anyhow? It’s always been and always will be about image more than anything.

For those who DO buy these for performance, these cars will be modded anyhow..

It’s all about the consumer’s trust in a brand. If i believed nissan cheated on gt-r specs, why the hell should i believe anything they have to say about any other cars they make. it’s a huge risk for nissan to make bold statement with a defined limit since it allows people to test for it.

NOBODY can prove Nissan wrong. Even if somebody would try, which is very unlikely.

Say reputable car magazine X tests the GTR at Nordschleife and gets only 7:50. Nissan can say: bad driver, different weather conditions, defective car, “2 damp corners”, etc. Very easy.

That’s why they did the BS, cheap advertising with no risks. There are so many people that just believe it. I know lots of people that would believe anything Nissan says just because they are Nissan fans.

-Nissan got a lap time of X

-Nissan used racing slicks and a running start to get lap time of X

-Therefore, the Corvette is better because one magazine got a lap time of Y, under circumstances that we can’t quantify.

Frankly, I don’t see how there is enough information to claim that Y is better than X, when we know less about Y than we do about X, and when lap times aren’t the only criteria for evaluating the vehicles. The author may be right, but there isn’t enough information here that I can see with which to form an opinion, either way.

In any case, this comment strikes me as terribly flawed: No small part of the current GT-R lovefest can be attributed to the car’s 7:38 Nürburgring lap time.

The reviews I’ve read make little or no mention of said lap time. Nor does this single event seem to be impacting the qualitative assessment of the car, other than to say that it’s fast, something that everyone has otherwise established.

To argue that the Vette is better simply based upon an incomplete comparison of one lap time versus another is, in my mind, tough to defend. The worthiness of a car has more to do with just lap times, the reviews discuss these cars on a variety of levels, and I see little concern for one single data point among the whole. Maybe I’m just missing it?

a few weeks ago at the car wash i witnessed a z06 driver wash and dry his car with great care and attention. after i was done my sloppy wash and began to pull out, i see him and another good samaritan in my rear view pushing the car out of the wash bay – the thing wouldn’t start.

oh and i have no illusions of being a great race car driver. 4wd would probably keep me from hanging the butt end out and going into the ditch (which i’ve seen a couple of new vettes do).

’nuff said.

Enjoy the ride while you can, because you are looking at a couple of (near) future museum pieces…

Follow the linky:

http://www.nissan.co.jp/GT-R/R35/0710/XML/card/eq4isr000002y09r-att/eq4isr000002y0ac.swf

Has Porsche become the “overpriced, unreliable SUV vendor”?

Then what does that make Range Rover?”

Recyclable Chinese beer cans…

Biased, misinformed corvette flag waving? I’ve come to expect better from ttac. Respect -1.

If the ring times turns out to be complete false, and no one can get within 5 second of posted time, then GT-R will gain a bad reputation. Furthermore, carlos ghosn and Nissan will gain a bad reputation for post these times. It’s just not worth it for them to stake their name on this.

Everyone else, except GM uses a flying start.

7:29 is the number.

The GT-R uses run flats also. People love to say the ZO6 is on run flats. So is the GT-R….

http://www.2009gtr.com

Nissan just put a 100% BS claim knowing that is cheap and effective advertising!

How on earth anybody can ever prove them wrong? No way. That’s Nissan’s thinking.

Simple: make lots of hype and sell lots of the porky GTR to people that will simply believe that they get a car up there with Porsche Carrera GT and the Pagani Zonda.

GTR 7:29 Nordschleife record, right…

If you re-read my comment about seeing four round taillights, you would notice it was preceded by “I wouldn’t advise lining up with a Z06 at any speed greater than about 40 mph in a GT-R”

Anyone who doesn’t know both cars have 4 round taillights probably doesn’t read TTAC.

What we need to find the truth about is GM’s claim of the HHR SS lapping the ‘ring in 8:43. To put this in reference, this is within 5 seconds of an Acura NSX, Lotus Exige, and Honda S2000.

We need to get to the bottom of this. As for the GT-R, who cares? Most of us can’t even get sub 8-minute laps in a Z06 playing Gran Turismo.