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		<title>By: Robert Farago</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Farago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now.</description>
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		<title>By: B2Stealth</title>
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		<dc:creator>B2Stealth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for such an informative article. I plan on taking advantage of the Mercedes Benz Exchange Delivery Program this summer. Question for you: When should I begin the ordering process for a 2009 vehicle to be picked up July/August timeframe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Thank you for such an informative article. I plan on taking advantage of the Mercedes Benz Exchange Delivery Program this summer. Question for you: When should I begin the ordering process for a 2009 vehicle to be picked up July/August timeframe?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: thedon</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/the-truth-about-european-delivery-programs/comment-page-1/#comment-57891</link>
		<dc:creator>thedon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We just pick up a Saab 9-3 Combi at the end of May. Drove from Trollhatten through Denmark, Germany,Austria, Italy, and left the car in Paris. The roads were beautiful and people friendly. Driving on the Autobahn when the speed limit ends and somebody in a big Mercedes leaves everyone in their dust shows I&#039;m no longer driving in Michigan. The skill level of the drivers is above any I&#039;ve seen in the states. No one drives in the left lane below the speed limit, it was great. We spent 15 days and did just over 2400 miles. From the local Salesman to the delivery person in Sweden this was one of the best new car experiences either my wife or I have ever had.  Since the car has not been delivered yet there maybe problems yet. But our dealer Fox Saab in Grand Rapids, MI and salesman Joel Hugen seem to be able handle any problem.   Yes, some parts of the purchase are inconvenient(the prepayment and the wait). But the enjoyment of driving in Europe makes up for the wait.  My hope now is that BMW makes Mini Cooper available for their European delivery program in next couple of years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->We just pick up a Saab 9-3 Combi at the end of May. Drove from Trollhatten through Denmark, Germany,Austria, Italy, and left the car in Paris. The roads were beautiful and people friendly. Driving on the Autobahn when the speed limit ends and somebody in a big Mercedes leaves everyone in their dust shows I&#8217;m no longer driving in Michigan. The skill level of the drivers is above any I&#8217;ve seen in the states. No one drives in the left lane below the speed limit, it was great. We spent 15 days and did just over 2400 miles. From the local Salesman to the delivery person in Sweden this was one of the best new car experiences either my wife or I have ever had.  Since the car has not been delivered yet there maybe problems yet. But our dealer Fox Saab in Grand Rapids, MI and salesman Joel Hugen seem to be able handle any problem.   Yes, some parts of the purchase are inconvenient(the prepayment and the wait). But the enjoyment of driving in Europe makes up for the wait.  My hope now is that BMW makes Mini Cooper available for their European delivery program in next couple of years.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ThinWhiteDuke</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThinWhiteDuke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 00:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Gwagon is built in Alabama? I think you mean Austria, guy.</description>
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		<title>By: threeer</title>
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		<dc:creator>threeer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 21:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the military does allow one P.O.V. delivered free to the US (per servicemember/family).  They also do not pay taxes on the vehicle UNTIL they arrive Stateside to register it.</description>
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		<title>By: hal</title>
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		<dc:creator>hal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 20:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the US manufacturers should offer a program similar to Corvette (with free 1way airfare) across their range. I might not want a vacation in Dearborn but I might enjoy the roadtrip home. Dealers mightn&#039;t like it but car buyers could benefit from learning about who, where builds their cars.</description>
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		<title>By: Pch101</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pch101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be curious to know whether worker morale is helped at all by these delivery programs.  If average workers get to occasionally meet-and-greet some of their customers, it might give them a greater sense of pride and purpose in what they do, day after day.  

If so, that alone might be a good reason for the US manufacturers to offer it.  I&#039;m only worried that we might not like what we see...</description>
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<p>If so, that alone might be a good reason for the US manufacturers to offer it.  I&#8217;m only worried that we might not like what we see&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Donal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the same quote they use on Wikipedia, but I also recall the book quite differently. I recall the local communist party operative trying to spike the American milk program with Ipecac, then telling the local women that the American who caught him was going to put in a sexual stimulant. I remember the US distributing something in crates, but the locals writing on the crates in Sarkhanese that the largesse came from Uncle Mao instead of Uncle Sam.

Arrogance was part of it, but they were basically out of their element and outmaneuvered. The only one that was successful was Homer. He and and his wife were very popular because they lived and worked among the Sarkhanese like jus&#039; folks, and were protected when the revolution came. 

I remember Ambassador MacWhite always winning the first set from the Chinese diplomat, but always losing the second set, and both being too tired to play a third. That was an obvious metaphor for the political situation at the time. Seems to me the locals won the third set.</description>
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<p>Arrogance was part of it, but they were basically out of their element and outmaneuvered. The only one that was successful was Homer. He and and his wife were very popular because they lived and worked among the Sarkhanese like jus&#8217; folks, and were protected when the revolution came. </p>
<p>I remember Ambassador MacWhite always winning the first set from the Chinese diplomat, but always losing the second set, and both being too tired to play a third. That was an obvious metaphor for the political situation at the time. Seems to me the locals won the third set.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Farago</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Farago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 11:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KnightRT: 

My reading of the book is quite clear. 

This is how a fictional character describes the Yanks screwing-up in Southeast Asia:

&quot;For some reason, the people I meet in my country are not the same as the ones I knew in the United States. A mysterious change seems to come over Americans when they go to a foreign land. They isolate themselves socially. They live pretentiously. They&#039;re loud and ostentatious. Perhaps they&#039;re frightened and defensive, or maybe they&#039;re not properly trained and make mistakes out of ignorance.&quot;</description>
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<p>My reading of the book is quite clear. </p>
<p>This is how a fictional character describes the Yanks screwing-up in Southeast Asia:</p>
<p>&#8220;For some reason, the people I meet in my country are not the same as the ones I knew in the United States. A mysterious change seems to come over Americans when they go to a foreign land. They isolate themselves socially. They live pretentiously. They&#8217;re loud and ostentatious. Perhaps they&#8217;re frightened and defensive, or maybe they&#8217;re not properly trained and make mistakes out of ignorance.&#8221;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jurisb</title>
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		<dc:creator>jurisb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 09:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(well ,when europeans refered to americans being far too stupid and arrogant, they got it worng. Because americans ain`t arrogant. europeans must had been speaking of themselves......
speaking of stupidity, it applies to percentage, not to the nation.)</description>
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speaking of stupidity, it applies to percentage, not to the nation.)<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Alexdi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexdi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 03:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The novel was celebrated by self-loathing intellectuals, who agreed with disdainful Europeans that Americans are far too stupid and arrogant to play any &quot;useful&quot; role in world politics.&quot;

I&#039;ll assume that this doesn&#039;t reflect your view, because that wasn&#039;t the point of the book at all. Not even close!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&#8220;The novel was celebrated by self-loathing intellectuals, who agreed with disdainful Europeans that Americans are far too stupid and arrogant to play any &#8220;useful&#8221; role in world politics.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll assume that this doesn&#8217;t reflect your view, because that wasn&#8217;t the point of the book at all. Not even close!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: freude am fahren</title>
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		<dc:creator>freude am fahren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Porsche charges a premium for European delivery, and you can forget about any free or discount airfare as well. I guess that helps keep them the most profitable car company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Porsche charges a premium for European delivery, and you can forget about any free or discount airfare as well. I guess that helps keep them the most profitable car company.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think all products and services should have this foreign delivery thing. Y&#039;know, fly to China to pick up a package of underwear, fly to Bangalore to get face to face tech support, go to Africa to pick up diamond earrings from a rebel warlord.</description>
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		<title>By: dolo54</title>
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		<dc:creator>dolo54</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good friend is a teacher on an American Army base in Germany. He bought his mini-s there and said then when he finally moves back stateside, the military will ship his car here for free. So if you&#039;re in the military there may be additional possibilities available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->A good friend is a teacher on an American Army base in Germany. He bought his mini-s there and said then when he finally moves back stateside, the military will ship his car here for free. So if you&#8217;re in the military there may be additional possibilities available.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ex-dtw</title>
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		<dc:creator>ex-dtw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Knew about the program and am just waiting to have the cash (sooner than later I hope) to set off for a new 3 series.

The wife is even down with the plan, how great is that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Knew about the program and am just waiting to have the cash (sooner than later I hope) to set off for a new 3 series.</p>
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		<title>By: omnivore</title>
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		<dc:creator>omnivore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Au contraire, I think Dearborn would be a great place to pick up a car.  There&#039;s tons of cool car-related stuff there.  The Henry Ford Museum has amazing collections of classic machinery, and the new tour of the River Rouge plant is definitely worth the price of admission.  Couple those car-related stops with a spin through the lovely parts of northern MI, and you&#039;d have a great American-deliver program.</description>
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		<title>By: Dave M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the auto show this year I was able to position myself just right to look at both my vehicluar loves (the 9-3 and Mustang GT verts) with a simple turn of my head.  Back and forth, back and forth.  

It was a slow evening, so the Saab lady comes over and asks &quot;Are you thinking of a new car?&quot;.  I replied affirmative, buit that it would probably be the Mustang since the Saab was a little (maybe more) out of my reach finacially.  She said  &quot;Two words:  European delivery&quot;.  Then she explained the whole process, discounts, etc.  After excitedly doing more research, it boils down to this:  it pays off only if you already planned to vacation in that area, or if you want the thrill of seeing where your car was born.

All in all, still a great idea.  I do wish they had a program at Flat Rock for picking up your Mustang - the long trek back here to Texas would be a great bonding experience.</description>
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<p>It was a slow evening, so the Saab lady comes over and asks &#8220;Are you thinking of a new car?&#8221;.  I replied affirmative, buit that it would probably be the Mustang since the Saab was a little (maybe more) out of my reach finacially.  She said  &#8220;Two words:  European delivery&#8221;.  Then she explained the whole process, discounts, etc.  After excitedly doing more research, it boils down to this:  it pays off only if you already planned to vacation in that area, or if you want the thrill of seeing where your car was born.</p>
<p>All in all, still a great idea.  I do wish they had a program at Flat Rock for picking up your Mustang &#8211; the long trek back here to Texas would be a great bonding experience.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: SherbornSean</title>
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		<dc:creator>SherbornSean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank,
Thanks for the update.

Areitu,
I didn&#039;t realize where the &#039;Stang was assembled.  An alternative, which might reduce dealer inventories, would be to do factory delivery digitally.

Put cameras in the factory that track your order&#039;s assembly so they can be viewed over the &#039;net with a special password, and then send the prespective buyer an email at every milestone in the production process.  

Would build excitement and consumer interest, but would require Big 3 to work with their dealers.  Pessimism returns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Frank,<br />
Thanks for the update.</p>
<p>Areitu,<br />
I didn&#8217;t realize where the &#8216;Stang was assembled.  An alternative, which might reduce dealer inventories, would be to do factory delivery digitally.</p>
<p>Put cameras in the factory that track your order&#8217;s assembly so they can be viewed over the &#8216;net with a special password, and then send the prespective buyer an email at every milestone in the production process.  </p>
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		<title>By: Frank Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;kasumi:  I thought Corvette did some kind of factory pickup, but maybe they discontinued it. &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Actually, it&#039;s delivery at the Corvette Museum, which is located across the road from the factory in Bowling Green, KY.  Unlike many of the Euro delivery programs which give you a discount on the car, you have to pay an extra $480 for option R8C  when you order the car.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;For that, the museum gives you the &quot;VIP&quot; treatment, a special tour of the factory, commemorative paperwork, decals, and plaques, and a one-year membership to the museum.  They also put the car on display in the museum, and broadcast the delivery via web cams so all your friends can see it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p><em>kasumi:  I thought Corvette did some kind of factory pickup, but maybe they discontinued it. </em></p>
<p>Actually, it&#39;s delivery at the Corvette Museum, which is located across the road from the factory in Bowling Green, KY.  Unlike many of the Euro delivery programs which give you a discount on the car, you have to pay an extra $480 for option R8C  when you order the car.</p>
<p>For that, the museum gives you the &quot;VIP&quot; treatment, a special tour of the factory, commemorative paperwork, decals, and plaques, and a one-year membership to the museum.  They also put the car on display in the museum, and broadcast the delivery via web cams so all your friends can see it.</p>
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		<title>By: thetopdog</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corvette does offer a factory delivery program and its very popular amongst owners (at least the ones that post on Corvette forums)</description>
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		<title>By: Areitu</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;SherbornSean:
June 28th, 2007 at 12:36 pm 
Seems crazy to me that the Big 3 don’t offer factory delivery on the Corvette, Mustang and Jeep. Given the enthusistic fan base for each, you’d think consumers would eat it up, even without cost savings.&lt;/em&gt;

Regarding the Mustang, Dearborn, MI is probably not the nicest place to take a vacation. 

Given the massive discounts the Big 2.8 already doles out, any cost savings through a vacation program would be negated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>SherbornSean:<br />
June 28th, 2007 at 12:36 pm<br />
Seems crazy to me that the Big 3 don’t offer factory delivery on the Corvette, Mustang and Jeep. Given the enthusistic fan base for each, you’d think consumers would eat it up, even without cost savings.</em></p>
<p>Regarding the Mustang, Dearborn, MI is probably not the nicest place to take a vacation. </p>
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		<title>By: kasumi</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My mom did Yurp delivery for her S80. She really talks up the program and the purchasing aspects, ie check boxes, hand over money wait for Volvo to call to arrange your visit. I thought Corvette did some kind of factory pickup, but maybe they discontinued it. Being an Ohio resident and Honda fan, I think Honda should do something similar for their US-built cars in Marysville. 

K.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->My mom did Yurp delivery for her S80. She really talks up the program and the purchasing aspects, ie check boxes, hand over money wait for Volvo to call to arrange your visit. I thought Corvette did some kind of factory pickup, but maybe they discontinued it. Being an Ohio resident and Honda fan, I think Honda should do something similar for their US-built cars in Marysville. </p>
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		<title>By: SherbornSean</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems crazy to me that the Big 3 don&#039;t offer factory delivery on the Corvette, Mustang and Jeep.  Given the enthusistic fan base for each, you&#039;d think consumers would eat it up, even without cost savings.

Jeep especially.  They should have an off-road course to train/entertain new drivers.  You might even require it of people looking to buy a trail-rated version.</description>
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		<title>By: stormj</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You picked up the car in Swedish? Methinks you mean &quot;i Sverige&quot; not på svenska.

I was very tempted to do this once, and am tempted again. Thanks for the great article.</description>
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		<title>By: Alex Dykes</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s always hard to squeeze everything into a readable article, so here&#039;s some extra information:

The programs exist for US and Canadian residents, or members of US and Canadian armed forces. Not all the companies offer military and diplomat sales and discounts (BMW and Volvo do). The military sales differ in that you can keep the car in Europe longer than 6 months without paying tax. Under EU law the &quot; euro delivery&quot; cars must leave after 6 months or pay local VAT in the country they have been temporarily registered in.

There are currently no programs that I know of that allow residents of other countries to participate in these programs, nor is there a way to pick up a US made car and take it to Europe in this fashion. There are several reasons for this, one is that the same model sold in the US is not sold in Europe as is because they don&#039;t meet European standards for headlights, tail lights, etc. Sweden and Germany have worked with their car companies to create the laws and arrangements with the USA to enable this program to work. This includes special license plates, special insurance and registration arrangements, etc. Due to the relative low volume of sales to other countries it may not be an economical move to attempt to provide the same service to other countries.

Euro delivery should not be seen as a money saving event since you will probably spend more on your vacation anyway. Deals vary by the manufacturer, but Volvo has probably the best deal going. Here&#039;s an example:  a 2007 Volvo XC90 V8 AWD Sport is $49,955 MSRP and $47,072 dealer invoice, but only $45,605 via OSD. This is a 9% savings over MSRP and 4% over invoice. According to Edmunds True Market Value and my own research you can get the XC90 V8 sport for Invoice price, this means your savings is $1,467. Now remember that with Volvo the 2 person round-trip air fare is free, and so is shipping (if you return it to the factory) and insurance for two weeks. So if you went on a 2 week vacation that you would take anyway, you&#039;d save the $1,467 on the car, the $1000-$1500 on airfare and $650-$1000 on the rental car while you are there. Overall the big picure is not a bad deal, but you are right, don&#039;t view this as a &quot;we&#039;re gonna go over there and P-A-R-T-Y while saving bank.&quot; Bottom line, if you&#039;re going to buy a European car anyway, and you want to go on vacation, you can save some cash on the package deal and get a much better car to drive there.  Trust me, you do NOT want to try driving a rental Ford Ka on the Autobahn, doing so  has all the thrill of watching high-speed rollercoasters from a wheelchair.</description>
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<p>The programs exist for US and Canadian residents, or members of US and Canadian armed forces. Not all the companies offer military and diplomat sales and discounts (BMW and Volvo do). The military sales differ in that you can keep the car in Europe longer than 6 months without paying tax. Under EU law the &#8221; euro delivery&#8221; cars must leave after 6 months or pay local VAT in the country they have been temporarily registered in.</p>
<p>There are currently no programs that I know of that allow residents of other countries to participate in these programs, nor is there a way to pick up a US made car and take it to Europe in this fashion. There are several reasons for this, one is that the same model sold in the US is not sold in Europe as is because they don&#8217;t meet European standards for headlights, tail lights, etc. Sweden and Germany have worked with their car companies to create the laws and arrangements with the USA to enable this program to work. This includes special license plates, special insurance and registration arrangements, etc. Due to the relative low volume of sales to other countries it may not be an economical move to attempt to provide the same service to other countries.</p>
<p>Euro delivery should not be seen as a money saving event since you will probably spend more on your vacation anyway. Deals vary by the manufacturer, but Volvo has probably the best deal going. Here&#8217;s an example:  a 2007 Volvo XC90 V8 AWD Sport is $49,955 MSRP and $47,072 dealer invoice, but only $45,605 via OSD. This is a 9% savings over MSRP and 4% over invoice. According to Edmunds True Market Value and my own research you can get the XC90 V8 sport for Invoice price, this means your savings is $1,467. Now remember that with Volvo the 2 person round-trip air fare is free, and so is shipping (if you return it to the factory) and insurance for two weeks. So if you went on a 2 week vacation that you would take anyway, you&#8217;d save the $1,467 on the car, the $1000-$1500 on airfare and $650-$1000 on the rental car while you are there. Overall the big picure is not a bad deal, but you are right, don&#8217;t view this as a &#8220;we&#8217;re gonna go over there and P-A-R-T-Y while saving bank.&#8221; Bottom line, if you&#8217;re going to buy a European car anyway, and you want to go on vacation, you can save some cash on the package deal and get a much better car to drive there.  Trust me, you do NOT want to try driving a rental Ford Ka on the Autobahn, doing so  has all the thrill of watching high-speed rollercoasters from a wheelchair.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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