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	<title>Comments on: The Insider’s Guide to Speed Enforcement Pt. 2: Radar Detectors</title>
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		<title>By: bruce10</title>
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		<dc:creator>bruce10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 00:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have ran a V1 in many states, awesome detector by the way, and have been able to get out of some tickets even still.  The only situations they can get me in is if they have their radar turned down real low or off, and then turn it up when they see me coming.  This is rare and 19 out of 20 times I have them a mile in advance.  It has been my experience that it is always best to fight a ticket even if you were totally guilty.  Pay the fine immediately same day.  Even if you go into the court and ask for a plea bargain based on the fact that you will promise to slow down when going through that particular state or community and could they please accept the fine and forgive the points.  In every moving violation I have ever had, this argument has worked to some degree. Go in dressed nice and be very mannerly, as in Good afternoon and yes sir or ma&#039;am or your honor.  Most judges are WAY WAY nicer than cops and certainly more understanding.  Good luck.
If you would like to ask me for advice you can email papagronk@yahoo.com.  Happy trails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I have ran a V1 in many states, awesome detector by the way, and have been able to get out of some tickets even still.  The only situations they can get me in is if they have their radar turned down real low or off, and then turn it up when they see me coming.  This is rare and 19 out of 20 times I have them a mile in advance.  It has been my experience that it is always best to fight a ticket even if you were totally guilty.  Pay the fine immediately same day.  Even if you go into the court and ask for a plea bargain based on the fact that you will promise to slow down when going through that particular state or community and could they please accept the fine and forgive the points.  In every moving violation I have ever had, this argument has worked to some degree. Go in dressed nice and be very mannerly, as in Good afternoon and yes sir or ma&#8217;am or your honor.  Most judges are WAY WAY nicer than cops and certainly more understanding.  Good luck.<br />
If you would like to ask me for advice you can email <a href="mailto:papagronk@yahoo.com">papagronk@yahoo.com</a>.  Happy trails.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Radar Detector Reviews</title>
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		<dc:creator>Radar Detector Reviews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laser is very hard to hit with a radar detector, if you are worried about laser try the laser pro park which will jam the laser signal, I own it myself pretty neat device but expensive, it will pay for itself eventually though. &#160;&lt;br /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Laser is very hard to hit with a radar detector, if you are worried about laser try the laser pro park which will jam the laser signal, I own it myself pretty neat device but expensive, it will pay for itself eventually though. &nbsp;<br /><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Gopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 05:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ran a Bearfinder then a Cobra and after the third Escort was stolen, back to a Cobra. I got popped one night on a dark two lane farm to market road by a Texas DPS trooper. Back then they would let you sit in the car while they ran your tags and license and he saw the Escort. He ask if I was a professional speeder. I told him it was there to tell me where the Revenue Enhancement Agents were. He told me to get the hell out of his car and have a good night.</description>
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		<title>By: ZoomZoom</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZoomZoom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 03:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;GS650G : 

Best thing is to use a rabbit. Some poor SOB 4 car lengths in front of you that grabs his brakes and takes one for the team electronically so everyone else gets a pass.&lt;/strong&gt;

Using a rabbit doesn&#039;t always work!  In fact, it almost never works.

1.  Just last week, I saw six motorcycle cops writing tickets, each about a mile apart from the next.  End of the month, or anytime a Presidential or Vice-Presidentail visit is nigh, they crack down.

2.  One year, a local cop dressed as Santa and stationed himself on the highway with a radar gun.  Right there, standing in the median!  If he nabbed one or two or five, he&#039;d just radio the motorcycle guys to go get &#039;em all.  Yup, some people got busted by Santa Clause.

3.  In Ohio, Indiana, and Georgia, the state police would use multiple patrol cars and/or motorcycles to pull EVERYBODY over, even the ones who weren&#039;t speeding.  If you were caught in middle of the speeding pack, you were considered part of the pack.

4.  Legend has it that a single Michigan State trooper will just pull over 6 to 12 cars at once, and walk the line, writing tickets for each driver.  Hey, he&#039;s already radioed each license in.  If you bolt, your car would be impounded and you would be thrown in jail!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><strong>GS650G : </p>
<p>Best thing is to use a rabbit. Some poor SOB 4 car lengths in front of you that grabs his brakes and takes one for the team electronically so everyone else gets a pass.</strong></p>
<p>Using a rabbit doesn&#8217;t always work!  In fact, it almost never works.</p>
<p>1.  Just last week, I saw six motorcycle cops writing tickets, each about a mile apart from the next.  End of the month, or anytime a Presidential or Vice-Presidentail visit is nigh, they crack down.</p>
<p>2.  One year, a local cop dressed as Santa and stationed himself on the highway with a radar gun.  Right there, standing in the median!  If he nabbed one or two or five, he&#8217;d just radio the motorcycle guys to go get &#8216;em all.  Yup, some people got busted by Santa Clause.</p>
<p>3.  In Ohio, Indiana, and Georgia, the state police would use multiple patrol cars and/or motorcycles to pull EVERYBODY over, even the ones who weren&#8217;t speeding.  If you were caught in middle of the speeding pack, you were considered part of the pack.</p>
<p>4.  Legend has it that a single Michigan State trooper will just pull over 6 to 12 cars at once, and walk the line, writing tickets for each driver.  Hey, he&#8217;s already radioed each license in.  If you bolt, your car would be impounded and you would be thrown in jail!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: David Holzman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Holzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuckgoolsbee&#039;s presentation on avoiding tickets is superb. If you haven&#039;t already seen it, take a look. It&#039;s a link in the 7th post in this thread. Thanks Chuck!</description>
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		<title>By: David Holzman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Holzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;&gt;As for talking your way out of a ticket, the chance of that is slim regardless of whether or not you have a detector. If they pull you over, they have already called the stop in to dispatch, and you’re going to get a ticket.

I&#039;ve been pulled over a couple of times in the last couple of years without being ticketed. But I do everything you&#039;re supposed to do: light up the interior if at night, pull as far off the road as I possibly can, stick my hands where the officer can see them, and that there is nothing in them, etc, and I am absolutely as polite as I can be. One time I had the dog in the front seat, and she immediately started barking. I hung onto her and said, &quot;don&#039;t worry officer, she wouldn&#039;t hurt a flee&quot; (which was true).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&gt;&gt;&gt;As for talking your way out of a ticket, the chance of that is slim regardless of whether or not you have a detector. If they pull you over, they have already called the stop in to dispatch, and you’re going to get a ticket.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been pulled over a couple of times in the last couple of years without being ticketed. But I do everything you&#8217;re supposed to do: light up the interior if at night, pull as far off the road as I possibly can, stick my hands where the officer can see them, and that there is nothing in them, etc, and I am absolutely as polite as I can be. One time I had the dog in the front seat, and she immediately started barking. I hung onto her and said, &#8220;don&#8217;t worry officer, she wouldn&#8217;t hurt a flee&#8221; (which was true).<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: GS650G</title>
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		<dc:creator>GS650G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;It’s too bad donuts don’t give off some kind of detectable emission…&lt;/em&gt;

Actually there was a detector that monitored the police radio bands. You didn&#039;t hear their conversations as much as monitored the signal when they keyed the mike. The idea was they would be calling in drivers and you would know where the car was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>It’s too bad donuts don’t give off some kind of detectable emission…</em></p>
<p>Actually there was a detector that monitored the police radio bands. You didn&#8217;t hear their conversations as much as monitored the signal when they keyed the mike. The idea was they would be calling in drivers and you would know where the car was.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: GS650G</title>
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		<dc:creator>GS650G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;It has been my understanding that if you get stopped by a cop and you have a radar detector, you will not have a chance of talking your way out of the ticket.&lt;/em&gt;

With both video and audio recording of the traffic stop, you have no chance of getting out of a ticket anyway. The cop has to explain why he &quot;decided&quot; to let you go.

Best thing is to use a rabbit. Some poor SOB 4 car lengths in front of you that grabs his brakes and takes one for the team electronically so everyone else gets a pass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>It has been my understanding that if you get stopped by a cop and you have a radar detector, you will not have a chance of talking your way out of the ticket.</em></p>
<p>With both video and audio recording of the traffic stop, you have no chance of getting out of a ticket anyway. The cop has to explain why he &#8220;decided&#8221; to let you go.</p>
<p>Best thing is to use a rabbit. Some poor SOB 4 car lengths in front of you that grabs his brakes and takes one for the team electronically so everyone else gets a pass.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: fallout11</title>
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		<dc:creator>fallout11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 18:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matthew Danda:
Your assessment of the Atlanta-to-Florida stretch of I-75 is right on the money (one of the most heavily traveled and heavily patrolled pieces of roadway in the nation). Yet since that is where I live, yes I speed on it very frequently (pretty much anytime I&#039;m on it). 
Apparently, I am far from alone in that. A recent GA D.O.T. survey found that some 85% of Georgians freely admitted to &#039;routinely&#039; speeding on Georgia&#039;s interstates, with over 70% admitting to &#039;routinely&#039; going 10mph or more over the limit.  

A law ignored by most is a useless law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Matthew Danda:<br />
Your assessment of the Atlanta-to-Florida stretch of I-75 is right on the money (one of the most heavily traveled and heavily patrolled pieces of roadway in the nation). Yet since that is where I live, yes I speed on it very frequently (pretty much anytime I&#8217;m on it).<br />
Apparently, I am far from alone in that. A recent GA D.O.T. survey found that some 85% of Georgians freely admitted to &#8216;routinely&#8217; speeding on Georgia&#8217;s interstates, with over 70% admitting to &#8216;routinely&#8217; going 10mph or more over the limit.  </p>
<p>A law ignored by most is a useless law.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ZoomZoom</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZoomZoom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 14:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even though I&#039;ve driven in Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Kentucky, Georgia, and Florida, I&#039;ve always felt that I didn&#039;t need to spend the money on radar detectors.  The benefit would be minimal in my case.

Even the best detectors can&#039;t see the cop hiding behind the bridge abutment, in the ditches, or watching you from the top of highway overpasses or entrance/exit ramps.  They can&#039;t see the motorcycle cop sitting in wait behind the billboard sign.  They can&#039;t see the cop in the unmarked patrol car.

And radar detectors are completely useless at seeing the &quot;bear in the air.&quot;  Every one of those states had or still has traffic enforcement from helicopter or airplane, and that method of detection doesn&#039;t use radar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Even though I&#8217;ve driven in Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Kentucky, Georgia, and Florida, I&#8217;ve always felt that I didn&#8217;t need to spend the money on radar detectors.  The benefit would be minimal in my case.</p>
<p>Even the best detectors can&#8217;t see the cop hiding behind the bridge abutment, in the ditches, or watching you from the top of highway overpasses or entrance/exit ramps.  They can&#8217;t see the motorcycle cop sitting in wait behind the billboard sign.  They can&#8217;t see the cop in the unmarked patrol car.</p>
<p>And radar detectors are completely useless at seeing the &#8220;bear in the air.&#8221;  Every one of those states had or still has traffic enforcement from helicopter or airplane, and that method of detection doesn&#8217;t use radar.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: rtz</title>
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		<dc:creator>rtz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 00:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I rode to lunch everyday for a year and a half with someone who had a Passport 8500 X50.  It worked several times.  Daily though, it had plenty of false alarms.  Luckily it had some sort of mute button to silence whatever was temporarily setting it off.  Something at one location(airport) would always without fail set off the laser detection.  Luckily the laser detect part could be turned off within the device(laser is apparently not used in this state).

His philosophy was the one ticket you didn&#039;t get paid for the device.  He sped daily and never got a ticket during that year and a half.  So yes, this product does work.  Does the 9500 work better?  I don&#039;t know.

I&#039;m cheap and I chance it daily.  I&#039;ve never owned a radar detector.  How many tickets have I had over the course of my 15 driving years?  Some number approaching ten.  How many times have I been pulled over though?  Some number approaching thirty.   Either a written warning or a lengthy discussion concerning the whys and the should nots.  But that was all mostly in my younger years.  Worth it?  Absolutely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I rode to lunch everyday for a year and a half with someone who had a Passport 8500 X50.  It worked several times.  Daily though, it had plenty of false alarms.  Luckily it had some sort of mute button to silence whatever was temporarily setting it off.  Something at one location(airport) would always without fail set off the laser detection.  Luckily the laser detect part could be turned off within the device(laser is apparently not used in this state).</p>
<p>His philosophy was the one ticket you didn&#8217;t get paid for the device.  He sped daily and never got a ticket during that year and a half.  So yes, this product does work.  Does the 9500 work better?  I don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m cheap and I chance it daily.  I&#8217;ve never owned a radar detector.  How many tickets have I had over the course of my 15 driving years?  Some number approaching ten.  How many times have I been pulled over though?  Some number approaching thirty.   Either a written warning or a lengthy discussion concerning the whys and the should nots.  But that was all mostly in my younger years.  Worth it?  Absolutely.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: minion444</title>
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		<dc:creator>minion444</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started with the Original LARGE Escort with the meter, and after a few more, I currently own a V1.  I will not drive without it.  I commute to Brooklyn form NJ daily and come across many many revenue enhancement zones.  I would just rather not destroy my license and wallet with useless tickets.  Nor, am I willing to slow down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I started with the Original LARGE Escort with the meter, and after a few more, I currently own a V1.  I will not drive without it.  I commute to Brooklyn form NJ daily and come across many many revenue enhancement zones.  I would just rather not destroy my license and wallet with useless tickets.  Nor, am I willing to slow down.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Cicero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cicero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But that got me thinking, a typical operating fuzzmobile in the USA is a transmitter of all kinds of unique EM emissions.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s too bad donuts don&#039;t give off some kind of detectable emission...</description>
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<blockquote>But that got me thinking, a typical operating fuzzmobile in the USA is a transmitter of all kinds of unique EM emissions.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: CarnotCycle</title>
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		<dc:creator>CarnotCycle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cops seem to be getting better and better equipment, especially with the Instant On Ka-band radars.

But that got me thinking, a typical operating fuzzmobile in the USA is a transmitter of all kinds of unique EM emissions. 

They have their proprietary wireless link back to Fuzz HQ with their dashboard computers, they have their radios on all the time, etc. Perhaps rather than just trying to build a radar/laser detector specifically, have a general &quot;fuzz detector&quot; that keys on all those EM signatures. 

The only way cops can hide-out from that kind of detector is to turn all their electronic widgets off - cop without a radio is like a baby without its mother, i.e., relatively helpless. Has anyone ever seen a product that does something like this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The cops seem to be getting better and better equipment, especially with the Instant On Ka-band radars.</p>
<p>But that got me thinking, a typical operating fuzzmobile in the USA is a transmitter of all kinds of unique EM emissions. </p>
<p>They have their proprietary wireless link back to Fuzz HQ with their dashboard computers, they have their radios on all the time, etc. Perhaps rather than just trying to build a radar/laser detector specifically, have a general &#8220;fuzz detector&#8221; that keys on all those EM signatures. </p>
<p>The only way cops can hide-out from that kind of detector is to turn all their electronic widgets off &#8211; cop without a radio is like a baby without its mother, i.e., relatively helpless. Has anyone ever seen a product that does something like this?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: red dawg</title>
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		<dc:creator>red dawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If a police officer can have and use a radar unit to check my speed then i can and will use a radar detector. It LEVELS the playing field and makes ticket happy cops very unhappy. Anything to bet the cops at their own game is FAIR !!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->If a police officer can have and use a radar unit to check my speed then i can and will use a radar detector. It LEVELS the playing field and makes ticket happy cops very unhappy. Anything to bet the cops at their own game is FAIR !!!!!!!!!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jazbo123</title>
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		<dc:creator>jazbo123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^ I also had one of the original Fuzzbusters. Mine just had a yellowish light. Later on they came out with the same-looking except for woodgrain contact paper Fuzzbuster II that could handle K-band.

For the nostalgists:

Fuzzbuster:

http://www.radarbusters.com/images/radarbusters_skin/assets/support/fuzzbuster.gif

The radarbusters site also has a lot of good information on detectors and their history. Be advised it is also a detector sales site.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->^ I also had one of the original Fuzzbusters. Mine just had a yellowish light. Later on they came out with the same-looking except for woodgrain contact paper Fuzzbuster II that could handle K-band.</p>
<p>For the nostalgists:</p>
<p>Fuzzbuster:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.radarbusters.com/images/radarbusters_skin/assets/support/fuzzbuster.gif" rel="nofollow">http://www.radarbusters.com/images/radarbusters_skin/assets/support/fuzzbuster.gif</a></p>
<p>The radarbusters site also has a lot of good information on detectors and their history. Be advised it is also a detector sales site.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Potena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Potena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have owned a radar detector since the first metal black box Escorts in the early 1980&#039;s. Currently I use an Escort Solo S2. While the detector can no longer pick out every speed trap (as some police use the aforementioned instant on) there is nonetheless the benefit of picking up other drivers as they are targeted by the officer. I will agree with the other posters that even with a detector, one must use their head.
Funny story.... An old friend on mine used to own an AMC Eagle station wagon. Remember those 4 wheel drive wonder cars? Anyway, he owned a first generation Fuzzbuster. It was half as big as a tissue box, and had only a single large red indicator. It refused to pick up radar unless the officer was standing on the hood of the car aiming the radar gun right at the unit! It did, however, go off whenever the car hit a bump, thus it was christened the &quot;Bump Detector&quot;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I have owned a radar detector since the first metal black box Escorts in the early 1980&#8217;s. Currently I use an Escort Solo S2. While the detector can no longer pick out every speed trap (as some police use the aforementioned instant on) there is nonetheless the benefit of picking up other drivers as they are targeted by the officer. I will agree with the other posters that even with a detector, one must use their head.<br />
Funny story&#8230;. An old friend on mine used to own an AMC Eagle station wagon. Remember those 4 wheel drive wonder cars? Anyway, he owned a first generation Fuzzbuster. It was half as big as a tissue box, and had only a single large red indicator. It refused to pick up radar unless the officer was standing on the hood of the car aiming the radar gun right at the unit! It did, however, go off whenever the car hit a bump, thus it was christened the &#8220;Bump Detector&#8221;!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Danda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Danda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fallout11:

You actually sped on I-75 in Georgia? My god, man, that stretch between Atlanta and the Florida border has more highway patrol than regular traffic!</description>
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<p>You actually sped on I-75 in Georgia? My god, man, that stretch between Atlanta and the Florida border has more highway patrol than regular traffic!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: bunkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>bunkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never used a radar detector. Watching the behavior of other drivers (which, incidentally is also good for safety!) and being smart about where the traps are likely to be can be a very effective strategy. I have never gotten a speeding ticket in 35 years of driving various muscle cars, sports cars and sports sedans. 

Oh yeah, not driving too fast (no more than 10 over except in very short bursts) helps as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I have never used a radar detector. Watching the behavior of other drivers (which, incidentally is also good for safety!) and being smart about where the traps are likely to be can be a very effective strategy. I have never gotten a speeding ticket in 35 years of driving various muscle cars, sports cars and sports sedans. </p>
<p>Oh yeah, not driving too fast (no more than 10 over except in very short bursts) helps as well.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: kken71</title>
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		<dc:creator>kken71</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I avoid speed traps on the highway by watching for people hitting their brakes for no apparent reason.  The more space between you and the &quot;lead&quot; car, the better.  

If traffic is sparse, I keep it within 10 mph of the limit and have no problems breezing through traps.

If you get caught far from home (last time for me is when the limit dropped by 5mph and I couldn&#039;t bring myself to slow down a bit), find get on the net and find a local attorney in the town where the court is located that looks well established (for example, private attorneys often serve as the Town Attorney for small towns) and see if they can represent you without you attending the hearing.

The fee will be more than any reduction in your fine, but you will probably avoid any points, which pays off in the long run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I avoid speed traps on the highway by watching for people hitting their brakes for no apparent reason.  The more space between you and the &#8220;lead&#8221; car, the better.  </p>
<p>If traffic is sparse, I keep it within 10 mph of the limit and have no problems breezing through traps.</p>
<p>If you get caught far from home (last time for me is when the limit dropped by 5mph and I couldn&#8217;t bring myself to slow down a bit), find get on the net and find a local attorney in the town where the court is located that looks well established (for example, private attorneys often serve as the Town Attorney for small towns) and see if they can represent you without you attending the hearing.</p>
<p>The fee will be more than any reduction in your fine, but you will probably avoid any points, which pays off in the long run.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: theflyersfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>theflyersfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First hand experience with Virginia and radar detectors...I had just moved to Arlington but still had my Pennsylvania plate and license.  There was also a brand new Passport detector on the windshield of my RSX Type-S.  I&#039;m coming out of a bank and lo and behold, there&#039;s an officer waiting for me next to my car.  He yells over wondering if this was my car (I think the roommate laughing like a loon at this moment while waiting in the car gave it away) and asked if I knew my Passport was illegal.  Playing dumb doesn&#039;t work.  I got a ticket (I don&#039;t remember for how much) and while I was able to keep the detector, I only pulled it out as soon as I crossed the Potomac into Maryland.
Fast forward a couple of years and it was stolen, along with a couple of bucks in loose change, during a break-in.  Joy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->First hand experience with Virginia and radar detectors&#8230;I had just moved to Arlington but still had my Pennsylvania plate and license.  There was also a brand new Passport detector on the windshield of my RSX Type-S.  I&#8217;m coming out of a bank and lo and behold, there&#8217;s an officer waiting for me next to my car.  He yells over wondering if this was my car (I think the roommate laughing like a loon at this moment while waiting in the car gave it away) and asked if I knew my Passport was illegal.  Playing dumb doesn&#8217;t work.  I got a ticket (I don&#8217;t remember for how much) and while I was able to keep the detector, I only pulled it out as soon as I crossed the Potomac into Maryland.<br />
Fast forward a couple of years and it was stolen, along with a couple of bucks in loose change, during a break-in.  Joy.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: fallout11</title>
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		<dc:creator>fallout11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use an Escort 8500i bought several years back after a really lame (68mph on interstate) and expensive ticket incurred while traveling through revenue-strapped Atlanta, and absolutely swear by it. Best money spent on a vehicle accessory ever, and have had zero tickets since while it was in use. 

My experiences pretty much coincide with Zarba&#039;s, except regarding laser warnings. The laser alert has clearly saved my bacon several times now.  For instance, just yesterday I was returning on I-75 from a family funeral yesterday (200 miles away) and received a timely laser warning from it....enough time to slow enough not to get nabbed. Was lasered in the fast lane, immediately dropped 8 mph, and was ignored. The sheriff unit waited another minute or so (could still see him in rear view mirror) and then pounced on another unfortunate soul traveling roughly the same speed.

I have read elsewhere that target lock requires a short delay in heavy traffic (the beam is narrow, and easily jiggled around). Two or three seconds warning can make all the difference.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I use an Escort 8500i bought several years back after a really lame (68mph on interstate) and expensive ticket incurred while traveling through revenue-strapped Atlanta, and absolutely swear by it. Best money spent on a vehicle accessory ever, and have had zero tickets since while it was in use. </p>
<p>My experiences pretty much coincide with Zarba&#8217;s, except regarding laser warnings. The laser alert has clearly saved my bacon several times now.  For instance, just yesterday I was returning on I-75 from a family funeral yesterday (200 miles away) and received a timely laser warning from it&#8230;.enough time to slow enough not to get nabbed. Was lasered in the fast lane, immediately dropped 8 mph, and was ignored. The sheriff unit waited another minute or so (could still see him in rear view mirror) and then pounced on another unfortunate soul traveling roughly the same speed.</p>
<p>I have read elsewhere that target lock requires a short delay in heavy traffic (the beam is narrow, and easily jiggled around). Two or three seconds warning can make all the difference&#8230;..<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Zarba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zarba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over the past 20 years, I have used a variety of high-end detectors, and they have consistently saved my bacon.  

I haven&#039;t had a speeding ticket in 15 years. I am a believer in good personal defense. I can&#039;t tell you how many times my detector has allowed me to slow down far in advance of seeing the bogey. I&#039;ve also watched numerous cars blow by me, only to get nabbed.

I agree with your assessment that a cheap detector is worse than nop detector at all. They primarily just set off other detectors.  

Everyone swears by the Valentine V1.  I&#039;ve had very good success with BEL&#039;s high-end models, and currently run an RX-65 Pro.

As for Laser, I&#039;ve only been able to get a REAL laser alert a few times; generally speaking, if you get an alert, you&#039;ve been clocked. 

My only complaint is that sometimes I&#039;ll get a Remora on my bumper, following me because they see I have a detector.</description>
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<p>I haven&#8217;t had a speeding ticket in 15 years. I am a believer in good personal defense. I can&#8217;t tell you how many times my detector has allowed me to slow down far in advance of seeing the bogey. I&#8217;ve also watched numerous cars blow by me, only to get nabbed.</p>
<p>I agree with your assessment that a cheap detector is worse than nop detector at all. They primarily just set off other detectors.  </p>
<p>Everyone swears by the Valentine V1.  I&#8217;ve had very good success with BEL&#8217;s high-end models, and currently run an RX-65 Pro.</p>
<p>As for Laser, I&#8217;ve only been able to get a REAL laser alert a few times; generally speaking, if you get an alert, you&#8217;ve been clocked. </p>
<p>My only complaint is that sometimes I&#8217;ll get a Remora on my bumper, following me because they see I have a detector.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Cicero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cicero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve driven in California with detectors for years.  I&#039;ve been pulled over a few times for speeding and have avoided a ticket in spite of the obvious presence of a detector on my windhshield. I don&#039;t think most cops care one way or the other.

BTW, I just got a new Passport 9500i -- the one with built-in GPS. The detector&#039;s capability to &quot;know&quot; where it is has the potential to be really useful.  Now I can teach it to ignore the locations that always set it off -- the door openers, speed display signs, etc., which really reduces annoying falsing.

How much longer will it be before someone combines GPS with 3g or EVDO internet capabilty to provide real-time warnings of the locations of radar traps, particularly along major highways?  When these two technologies merge I think drivers will have the ultimate upper hand in the tech war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I&#8217;ve driven in California with detectors for years.  I&#8217;ve been pulled over a few times for speeding and have avoided a ticket in spite of the obvious presence of a detector on my windhshield. I don&#8217;t think most cops care one way or the other.</p>
<p>BTW, I just got a new Passport 9500i &#8212; the one with built-in GPS. The detector&#8217;s capability to &#8220;know&#8221; where it is has the potential to be really useful.  Now I can teach it to ignore the locations that always set it off &#8212; the door openers, speed display signs, etc., which really reduces annoying falsing.</p>
<p>How much longer will it be before someone combines GPS with 3g or EVDO internet capabilty to provide real-time warnings of the locations of radar traps, particularly along major highways?  When these two technologies merge I think drivers will have the ultimate upper hand in the tech war.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Sherman Lin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherman Lin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My only complaint is with those communities that use police as a revenue collection agency rather than for safety purposes.</description>
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