Precisely the reason we need to change the way legislation is crafted; things shouldn’t be allowed to be “slipped in” like that.

With a constant flow of newbies into the elective positions the bureaucrats and lobbyists who continue to keep their jobs would have even more power than they do now.

Let’s try this: Term limits for all in government, including staffers and bureaucrats (exceptions for the military, of course). Nobody spends more than ten years of their career in government, and they can’t start there either; the only entry-level careers should be in the productive class, and that’s where people should return after loaning their talents (which they’ll actually have, being in the productive class beforehand) to government for a short time.

A long-range paintball gun sounds like a good idea, but even reversible damage is probably a big fine if you get caught.

Too much power for stupid cops and politicians to have, really – it’s like the opposite of DNA evidence; tech that can get innocent people into trouble. If it happens once, that’s too much.

Not to mention the conflict-of-interest with the camera company needing revenue; this is a place where the gov’t needs to be accountable.

Especially these days, all you hear about from Republican politicians and talk show hosts is how the Democrats are all socialists, and they are for fiscal responsibility (except for when they control the government), etc…

And then I hear that the red light cameras were introduced originally by a Republican in TX, and now this spy camera bs is by a Republican.

At least the Democrats don’t preach small government when they let big brother loose.

These politicians, on both sides, are pieces of shit that will do anything for the highest bidder.

Mm. Now which kind of (R) is that, then? Is it the “Small government” kind? Or the “With Libertee and Justice Frall” kind? Or the “Get the government’s nose out from under private citizens’ tents!” kind?

No, wait, wait, I see, it’s the “My little corner of the government is for sale to the highest corporate bidder, and ƒuçk everyone else, besides if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear” kind.

It was confirmed to me that they were for surveillance, not traffic enforcement.

Once King Bloomberg gets re-coronated/re-buys his Mayorship, we may look to this system being completed and coming on line. Every car in and out of NYC will be tracked.

Recall the 9/11 hijackers were all caught on video, had licenses, etc…didn’t do any good.

Costly legal battles on an individual basis will help to hurt the profitability of speed camera companies and the state officials they’ve bribed, err, convinced to go along with this charade.

I’ve decided it’s time to start actively resisting The State. The current crop of legislators, raised on 60’s Marxist egalitarianism, believe every manner of violence and coersion are justified if it serves “the public good”.

It’s time for self-defense.

My state of Washington has a Report of Vehicle Sale that you should fill out when you sell a car. This prevents problems like that. It is available online. It also has a place to enter the price you sold the car for; agree with your buyer as to what that number should be. Avoiding excess is the key.

And, “Term limits for politicians will drain the power and clout away from lobbyists like a good flush.”

Not! With a constant flow of newbies into the elective positions the bureaucrats and lobbyists who continue to keep their jobs would have even more power than they do now.

Fight, yes.

But the only true long-term solution is term limits. Term limits either by way of the ballot box or by way of State and/or Federal Constitutional Amendment.

Term limits for politicians will drain the power and clout away from lobbyists like a good flush.

The next step is to get government out of the business of education. We need separation of School and State!

Plus those GPS chips can hook into our optic nerves and record our actions and report unapproved actions to Janet Totalitariano at Homeland Security. It’s a perfect system!

Talk about getting government into the bedroom! Make sure your lover has her hair done and all her makup on.

“i think it copped several rifle rounds before they packed up that idea”

Seriously, more of that please.
The only way to really step-back these companies and lawmakers is to make operating and installing camera systems costly or dangerous (I prefer costly). If you get a ticket, NOT GUILTY. Drag it out as long as your personal convenience and budget allow, if you’re flush with cash for some reason, sue the vendor and municipality afterwards (you’ll lose, but it’ll cost the state and the vendor more than you spent by a long shot). It would be nice to rely on referendums and such to push back against the politicians, but what these guys are offering is a permanent stream of lobbying income, and that is truly hard to compete with short of outright civil disobediance. In politically safe, gerrymandered to hell, districts there is literally no other recourse.

Only two of those three cases deserve special treatment. The cop killer is no worse than any other killer, and posssibly had a good reason. See Hayley Adamson above if one of her family members had the balls and lack of anything to lose to take out John Dougal.

Someone that kills a cabbie, now they should be tracked down. That is a valuable service provided by a very hard working person that faces huge financial and health risks. Not just an overprotected possible (in Chicago probable) criminal that lucked into a government job with a union that makes the UAW look benign.

Now that “the man” is black “law and order” poor white trash are finally realizing that government security measures need to be questioned. Sometime they might end up on the wrong end of “Protecting America”. Hell, they’ve even had to finally question the Department of Homeland Security after people that met the Oklahoma bomber, as opposed to the WTC bomber, profile got on the DHS watch list.

Hopefully Texans can shut this down; despite the state’s supposed libertarian tendancies it is becoming a hot bed for toll roads and police state policies like these cameras.

there’s a state in my country where they installed a single camera as a tester

i think it copped several rifle rounds before they packed up that idea

of course the more populous urban states have cameras everywhere

Plus those GPS chips can hook into our optic nerves and record our actions and report unapproved actions to Janet Totalitariano at Homeland Security. It’s a perfect system!

Britain’s nationwide camera system has not actually decreased crime, violent crime, or had any statistically positive effect AFAIK. But the intrusion into private life is very prevalent. And yet it still exists. Why?

Joe

It’s called a slippery slope, *sigh*. Once you bend the rules in the name of “public safety” for one area, there’s nothing stopping from expansive surveillance in the name of public safety for anything.

The automatic plate recognition cameras + bureaucracy can’t even get license plates read for automated tolls right 100%. I thought Texas was more libertarian than this and a bill like this would die in committee, lol….but I guess the industrial/homeland security complex is there too.