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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/texas-curmudgeon-defines-ford-brand/comment-page-1/#comment-91541</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Must be a slow news day to link to THAT pointless empty-headed rant.</description>
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		<title>By: geeber</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/texas-curmudgeon-defines-ford-brand/comment-page-1/#comment-91514</link>
		<dc:creator>geeber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 18:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Landcrusher: We also didn&#039;t need masterpiece paintings, da Vinci&#039;s statues, beautiful cathedrals, Big Ben, the Crown Jewels, the Empire State Building, the Hollywood sign, the original Mustang, the current Mustang, the Civic Si, the Corvette...or a whole list of other frivolous items. 

But I&#039;m sure glad we have them...</description>
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		<title>By: jschaef481</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/texas-curmudgeon-defines-ford-brand/comment-page-1/#comment-91510</link>
		<dc:creator>jschaef481</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 18:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Landcrusher: AMEN! Well put.</description>
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		<title>By: Landcrusher</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/texas-curmudgeon-defines-ford-brand/comment-page-1/#comment-91489</link>
		<dc:creator>Landcrusher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 17:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did anyone think to point out to the guy that we don&#039;t NEED professional baseball teams? He doesn&#039;t NEED a logo hat to keep the sun off his face. We certainly don&#039;t NEED his work one bit.

The whole idea of what we &quot;need&quot; is ridiculous. This guy thinks he is smarter, wiser, better, and overall more important than the rest of us. How uncivilized can you get than to go around griping about what others don&#039;t need? Does he really even need a Ford? Would a bike not suffice? Or, should he not take the bus?

The truth is that he has a need to feel smarter than the rest of us, and he will do all sorts of stupid things to reinforce that belief. I for one don&#039;t NEED to live in his fantasy world.</description>
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<p>The whole idea of what we &#8220;need&#8221; is ridiculous. This guy thinks he is smarter, wiser, better, and overall more important than the rest of us. How uncivilized can you get than to go around griping about what others don&#8217;t need? Does he really even need a Ford? Would a bike not suffice? Or, should he not take the bus?</p>
<p>The truth is that he has a need to feel smarter than the rest of us, and he will do all sorts of stupid things to reinforce that belief. I for one don&#8217;t NEED to live in his fantasy world.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Von</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 16:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So why would I buy a Ford when the Koreans have cheaper econoboxes?</description>
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		<title>By: Virtual Insanity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Virtual Insanity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 15:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its articles like that that make me only slightly less agrivated at the Ft. Worth Star Telegram.  Of course, we get Bud Kennedy regularly, and that is just painfully infuriating.</description>
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		<title>By: umterp85</title>
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		<dc:creator>umterp85</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert Farago: &quot;To which we might add, when Ford builds a car that works as well, or better, than a BMW, they&#039;ll sell a lot more cars&quot;

Well...ugghhhh...I am torn here here....Bloom is using creative license to politically tag people.  But here goes from the literal intepretation.  Given Ford&#039;s recent reliability success (including my Mustang and Lincoln MKX)....and BMW&#039;s reliability issues (Inluding my prior rides---a POS X5 and 3 series that stranded me cold)...I&#039;d say Ford of North America----is building cars that work as well or better than BMW.  If you qualified your arguement around performance and overall refinement----you would have a point.  

That said ....I can assure you...politically...I am still a Bimmer (at least according to how Bloom defines it)....guess that would make me a FINO (Ford in name only).</description>
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<p>Well&#8230;ugghhhh&#8230;I am torn here here&#8230;.Bloom is using creative license to politically tag people.  But here goes from the literal intepretation.  Given Ford&#8217;s recent reliability success (including my Mustang and Lincoln MKX)&#8230;.and BMW&#8217;s reliability issues (Inluding my prior rides&#8212;a POS X5 and 3 series that stranded me cold)&#8230;I&#8217;d say Ford of North America&#8212;-is building cars that work as well or better than BMW.  If you qualified your arguement around performance and overall refinement&#8212;-you would have a point.  </p>
<p>That said &#8230;.I can assure you&#8230;politically&#8230;I am still a Bimmer (at least according to how Bloom defines it)&#8230;.guess that would make me a FINO (Ford in name only).<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: FromBrazil</title>
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		<dc:creator>FromBrazil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NICKNICK:

Point taken. Maybe that&#039;s why the Bimmer 3 sells more.

Anyway, I was just repeating what I&#039;ve read. I&#039;ve driven neither car. But even our &quot;beloved&quot; Jeremy Clarkson has sad as much, the Mondeo is better on a day-to-day basis. Sure, to go running at the track, and maybe even in the twisties (though the many reviewers I&#039;ve read beg to differ) the 3 has the Mondeo beat, but for the daily grind, and even the occasional pedal-to-the-metal, most reviewers have said the Mondeo is up to the task or even &lt;em&gt;slightly&lt;/em&gt; better.

Just sayin&#039;!</description>
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<p>Point taken. Maybe that&#8217;s why the Bimmer 3 sells more.</p>
<p>Anyway, I was just repeating what I&#8217;ve read. I&#8217;ve driven neither car. But even our &#8220;beloved&#8221; Jeremy Clarkson has sad as much, the Mondeo is better on a day-to-day basis. Sure, to go running at the track, and maybe even in the twisties (though the many reviewers I&#8217;ve read beg to differ) the 3 has the Mondeo beat, but for the daily grind, and even the occasional pedal-to-the-metal, most reviewers have said the Mondeo is up to the task or even <em>slightly</em> better.</p>
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		<title>By: NICKNICK</title>
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		<dc:creator>NICKNICK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FromBrazil:
nope.
Mondeo is FWD.  after lighting up the tires on the paint stripes in the rain at *every* stoplight, i&#039;m done with FWD.  a camry is more reliable than a Bimmer and is therefore a more appropriate daily driver (and the bangled 3 series is ugly), but until Toyota brings back a RWD celica, bimmer it is (infiniti more likely).

i don&#039;t *need* super steering feel (and probably wouldn&#039;t get it from a new 3 anyway), but the weight transfer during even mild acceleration makes FWD a deal-breaker.</description>
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nope.<br />
Mondeo is FWD.  after lighting up the tires on the paint stripes in the rain at *every* stoplight, i&#8217;m done with FWD.  a camry is more reliable than a Bimmer and is therefore a more appropriate daily driver (and the bangled 3 series is ugly), but until Toyota brings back a RWD celica, bimmer it is (infiniti more likely).</p>
<p>i don&#8217;t *need* super steering feel (and probably wouldn&#8217;t get it from a new 3 anyway), but the weight transfer during even mild acceleration makes FWD a deal-breaker.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: FromBrazil</title>
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		<dc:creator>FromBrazil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Farago,

It&#039;s true. It seems to me that Ford has been the sales leader in the UK for a long time. It just seems to me that the British are afraid to be pinned &quot;Mondeo Man&quot; and that the Mondeo in particular has not been able to break into the top10 in sales. But the Focus, and for ages previous to that, the Escort has been number 1 in the UK. In fact, they do have that market cracked. So much so that they are able to charge a premium on the Fiesta (it&#039;s more expensive than competitors&#039; Clios, 207s, Puntos, Corsas etc.)

On a side note, they should be smarter in other markets, example: Brazil. They fantasize for some reason that a Fiesta is a &quot;premium&quot; compact. Hahaha! The cars to beat here are VW&#039;s Gol and Fiat&#039;s Palio, which sell to the tune of more than 200K a year. The Fiesta is #7 in the ranking and will sell much less than half that total. It isn&#039;t that bad comparing to those two, but here Ford doesn&#039;t have any cachet anymore and compete on price. Brazil&#039;s market, which has been growing at Chinese rates (this year more than 28%, more than 2million cars, making it what? the 6th or 7th largest in the world?), is owned by Fiat at 28%, VW (the historic leader, overcome, thank God the last 6yrs) at 24%, Chrevolet at 21%, Ford hovers between 8 and 10%, Renault, Peugeot, Citroen, Honda and Toyota all have between 2 and 3%.

Sorry for the long rant!</description>
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<p>It&#8217;s true. It seems to me that Ford has been the sales leader in the UK for a long time. It just seems to me that the British are afraid to be pinned &#8220;Mondeo Man&#8221; and that the Mondeo in particular has not been able to break into the top10 in sales. But the Focus, and for ages previous to that, the Escort has been number 1 in the UK. In fact, they do have that market cracked. So much so that they are able to charge a premium on the Fiesta (it&#8217;s more expensive than competitors&#8217; Clios, 207s, Puntos, Corsas etc.)</p>
<p>On a side note, they should be smarter in other markets, example: Brazil. They fantasize for some reason that a Fiesta is a &#8220;premium&#8221; compact. Hahaha! The cars to beat here are VW&#8217;s Gol and Fiat&#8217;s Palio, which sell to the tune of more than 200K a year. The Fiesta is #7 in the ranking and will sell much less than half that total. It isn&#8217;t that bad comparing to those two, but here Ford doesn&#8217;t have any cachet anymore and compete on price. Brazil&#8217;s market, which has been growing at Chinese rates (this year more than 28%, more than 2million cars, making it what? the 6th or 7th largest in the world?), is owned by Fiat at 28%, VW (the historic leader, overcome, thank God the last 6yrs) at 24%, Chrevolet at 21%, Ford hovers between 8 and 10%, Renault, Peugeot, Citroen, Honda and Toyota all have between 2 and 3%.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Farago</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Farago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 12:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;FromBrazil:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Point taken, but I was speaking here of FoMoCo of NA.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;That said...&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Sales figures indicate that Ford of Great Britain (where the Mondeo also lives) has &quot;cracked it.&quot; This in a country where snobbery is a contact sport.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p><em>FromBrazil:</em></p>
<p>Point taken, but I was speaking here of FoMoCo of NA.</p>
<p>That said&#8230;</p>
<p>Sales figures indicate that Ford of Great Britain (where the Mondeo also lives) has &quot;cracked it.&quot; This in a country where snobbery is a contact sport.</p>
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		<title>By: Bunter1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bunter1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 12:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem isn&#039;t the BMWs.
It&#039;s the Hondas and Toyotas.

Beat those and the jobs will take care of themselves.</description>
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It&#8217;s the Hondas and Toyotas.</p>
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		<title>By: FromBrazil</title>
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		<dc:creator>FromBrazil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 11:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alas Mr. Farago, Ford does build a better car than BMW, the new Ford Mondeo. However, due to (possibly) badge snobbery this car doesn&#039;t sell more than the Series 3 even in Britain (the rest of Europe I don&#039;t know). It&#039;s as fast, bigger and arguably better looking than the 3, cheaper to buy and run. It should sell better. I just guess the times are against the makers of &quot;everyman&#039;s cars&quot;. Sort of like, everyone needs to be made special. And &quot;as if&quot; a car could give &#039;em that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Alas Mr. Farago, Ford does build a better car than BMW, the new Ford Mondeo. However, due to (possibly) badge snobbery this car doesn&#8217;t sell more than the Series 3 even in Britain (the rest of Europe I don&#8217;t know). It&#8217;s as fast, bigger and arguably better looking than the 3, cheaper to buy and run. It should sell better. I just guess the times are against the makers of &#8220;everyman&#8217;s cars&#8221;. Sort of like, everyone needs to be made special. And &#8220;as if&#8221; a car could give &#8216;em that!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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