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	<title>Comments on: Tesla Birth Watch 48: Done.</title>
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		<title>By: Potemkin</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/tesla-birth-watch-48-done/comment-page-1/#comment-451121</link>
		<dc:creator>Potemkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 16:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out Jay Leno&#039;s garage.   He claims to have the first production Tesla.   He also has a vid of him driving it on the streets.</description>
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		<title>By: GS650G</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/tesla-birth-watch-48-done/comment-page-1/#comment-428342</link>
		<dc:creator>GS650G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 13:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll wait for i to be on Barrett-Jackson someday with a huge starting price.&quot;Look, only a few remain and this is the first one delivered!&quot;</description>
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		<title>By: doug</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/tesla-birth-watch-48-done/comment-page-1/#comment-427321</link>
		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 00:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;#charleywhiskey :May 15th, 2008 at 7:43 pm

Hmm, maximum torque at 0 RPM; that must be fun to drive on icy roads.&lt;/em&gt;

It&#039;s called traction control. See vid here:
http://www.autobloggreen.com/2008/03/03/video-tesla-engineer-talks-about-developing-ev-traction-control/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>#charleywhiskey :May 15th, 2008 at 7:43 pm</p>
<p>Hmm, maximum torque at 0 RPM; that must be fun to drive on icy roads.</em></p>
<p>It&#8217;s called traction control. See vid here:<br />
<a href="http://www.autobloggreen.com/2008/03/03/video-tesla-engineer-talks-about-developing-ev-traction-control/" rel="nofollow">http://www.autobloggreen.com/2008/03/03/video-tesla-engineer-talks-about-developing-ev-traction-control/</a><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Mullholland</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/tesla-birth-watch-48-done/comment-page-1/#comment-427281</link>
		<dc:creator>Mullholland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 23:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kudos on the caption.</description>
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		<title>By: charleywhiskey</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/tesla-birth-watch-48-done/comment-page-1/#comment-427251</link>
		<dc:creator>charleywhiskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 23:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, maximum torque at 0 RPM; that must be fun to drive on icy roads.</description>
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		<title>By: doug</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/tesla-birth-watch-48-done/comment-page-1/#comment-427141</link>
		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 22:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A full update was given here:
http://www.teslamotors.com/blog2/?p=59

Their production plan:
&lt;em&gt;VIN# Planned Production Month
Founders&#039; Series March-June 2008
Signature 100 #1 July 2008
Signature 100 #100 October 2008
VIN #200 November 2008
VIN #300 December 2008
VIN #400 February 2009
VIN #500 March 2009&lt;/em&gt;</description>
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<a href="http://www.teslamotors.com/blog2/?p=59" rel="nofollow">http://www.teslamotors.com/blog2/?p=59</a></p>
<p>Their production plan:<br />
<em>VIN# Planned Production Month<br />
Founders&#8217; Series March-June 2008<br />
Signature 100 #1 July 2008<br />
Signature 100 #100 October 2008<br />
VIN #200 November 2008<br />
VIN #300 December 2008<br />
VIN #400 February 2009<br />
VIN #500 March 2009</em><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Samir</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/tesla-birth-watch-48-done/comment-page-1/#comment-427012</link>
		<dc:creator>Samir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 22:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An important (if un-verifiable) milestone, to be sure. But what about the other investors, Siry? Can you tell us if

1. They&#039;ve been given delivery dates
2. Their cars are at least in production
3. The transmission issues have been resolved to the point where cars are sold with production transmissions

I know it seems cruel and harsh and what not, but after 2.5 deliveries, at least one of which we know for a fact was not made to an Arm&#039;s Length Party, Tesla is still operating on OPM. In other words... show me the money!</description>
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<p>1. They&#8217;ve been given delivery dates<br />
2. Their cars are at least in production<br />
3. The transmission issues have been resolved to the point where cars are sold with production transmissions</p>
<p>I know it seems cruel and harsh and what not, but after 2.5 deliveries, at least one of which we know for a fact was not made to an Arm&#8217;s Length Party, Tesla is still operating on OPM. In other words&#8230; show me the money!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: geggamoya</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/tesla-birth-watch-48-done/comment-page-1/#comment-426831</link>
		<dc:creator>geggamoya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The driver in the video says that car is Tesla CEOs car. Or something, it&#039;s not his car, he&#039;s still waiting for his.</description>
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		<title>By: AGR</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/tesla-birth-watch-48-done/comment-page-1/#comment-426671</link>
		<dc:creator>AGR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 20:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could he be the 3rd owner...&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.calacanis.com/2008/05/04/tesla-test-drive/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Click&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: David Holzman</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/tesla-birth-watch-48-done/comment-page-1/#comment-426641</link>
		<dc:creator>David Holzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 20:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with PCH101 and Roger Hislop. But rooting for Tesla.</description>
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		<title>By: Roger Hislop</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/tesla-birth-watch-48-done/comment-page-1/#comment-426552</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Hislop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 16:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it&#039;s a little premature on the Death Watch, how about &quot;Spin Watch&quot;... at least keep &#039;em honest as they madly wiggle around putting lipstick on it.

And who knows, maybe the spin will turn into some straight torque. 

Ah ha ha...sorry.</description>
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<p>And who knows, maybe the spin will turn into some straight torque. </p>
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		<title>By: Jeff G</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/tesla-birth-watch-48-done/comment-page-1/#comment-426531</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 15:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even though an electric motor makes maximum torque at 0 rpm, gearing allows that torque to be multiplied.</description>
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		<title>By: Robert Schwartz</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/tesla-birth-watch-48-done/comment-page-1/#comment-426482</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Schwartz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 15:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are giving up to easy Frank. Call me when a buyer who is not looking for an opportunity to pump and dump his stock takes delivery.

P.S. Can someone explain why an electric car needs a transmission?</description>
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		<title>By: SunnyvaleCA</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/tesla-birth-watch-48-done/comment-page-1/#comment-426471</link>
		<dc:creator>SunnyvaleCA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 15:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did this car have the 2-speed transmission or the 1-speed?  If it is the 1-speed, I wouldn&#039;t quite consider it done, as people don&#039;t normally spend $100k for a &quot;sports car&quot; that doesn&#039;t even keep up with the Lotus from which it is based.</description>
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		<title>By: dean</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/tesla-birth-watch-48-done/comment-page-1/#comment-426452</link>
		<dc:creator>dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 15:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with others that it is too early to give up on a &quot;birth&quot; watch.  It also strikes me as more than a little cynical (even for me, and I&#039;m a pretty cynical guy) and pessimistic to go straight to a &quot;death&quot; watch.  

How about a Credibility Watch?  Then once the company demonstrates a lack thereof, bring on the Death Watch.  And if they succeed, more power to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I agree with others that it is too early to give up on a &#8220;birth&#8221; watch.  It also strikes me as more than a little cynical (even for me, and I&#8217;m a pretty cynical guy) and pessimistic to go straight to a &#8220;death&#8221; watch.  </p>
<p>How about a Credibility Watch?  Then once the company demonstrates a lack thereof, bring on the Death Watch.  And if they succeed, more power to them.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jkross22</title>
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		<dc:creator>jkross22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 15:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goodwill?  This site&#039;s in the business of the truth.  Rock on.</description>
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		<title>By: RayH</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/tesla-birth-watch-48-done/comment-page-1/#comment-426372</link>
		<dc:creator>RayH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 15:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;In case you hadn’t noticed, we are not in the goodwill business.&lt;/em&gt;

Point taken and understood.</description>
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		<title>By: Robert Farago</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/tesla-birth-watch-48-done/comment-page-1/#comment-426231</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Farago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 14:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;RayH:

I know we may not know the full story behind true independent verification, but I’d advise toning back that language in the name of goodwill.&lt;/em&gt;

In case you hadn&#039;t noticed, we are not in the goodwill business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>RayH:</p>
<p>I know we may not know the full story behind true independent verification, but I’d advise toning back that language in the name of goodwill.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Pch101</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/tesla-birth-watch-48-done/comment-page-1/#comment-426211</link>
		<dc:creator>Pch101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 14:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my opinion, delivering one car doesn&#039;t mean much.

A fully functioning production line that is fulfilling orders, yes.  One vehicle?  A bit early to say.

Even Vector delivered one vehicle.  Technically, they&#039;re still in business.  It remains one of our oldest and best known vaporware companies.</description>
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<p>A fully functioning production line that is fulfilling orders, yes.  One vehicle?  A bit early to say.</p>
<p>Even Vector delivered one vehicle.  Technically, they&#8217;re still in business.  It remains one of our oldest and best known vaporware companies.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: guyincognito</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/tesla-birth-watch-48-done/comment-page-1/#comment-426181</link>
		<dc:creator>guyincognito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 14:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree. According to Eberhard&#039;s story, Roadster 3 is a refurb of a prototype and not a real production unit. Until a ground up production unit reaches a paying customers hands the car has yet to be born, IMHO.</description>
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		<title>By: RayH</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/tesla-birth-watch-48-done/comment-page-1/#comment-426171</link>
		<dc:creator>RayH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 14:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;The Tesla Birth Watch is officially over. The Tesla Death Watch begins. &lt;/em&gt;  
  If they met your target of 1 car delivered to a customer, give them some props, at least at first!  A lot of people thought that wouldn&#039;t even happen.  I know we may not know the full story behind true independent verification, but I&#039;d advise toning back that language in the name of goodwill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>The Tesla Birth Watch is officially over. The Tesla Death Watch begins. </em><br />
  If they met your target of 1 car delivered to a customer, give them some props, at least at first!  A lot of people thought that wouldn&#8217;t even happen.  I know we may not know the full story behind true independent verification, but I&#8217;d advise toning back that language in the name of goodwill.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: siry</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/tesla-birth-watch-48-done/comment-page-1/#comment-426042</link>
		<dc:creator>siry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 13:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is a sad day indeed</description>
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		<title>By: kazoomaloo</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/tesla-birth-watch-48-done/comment-page-1/#comment-426021</link>
		<dc:creator>kazoomaloo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 13:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yay delivery.  Starting a Death Watch is a little harsh, though it&#039;s a very real possibility, considering how the company has been run to this point.  I hope they do well, you know, for the sake of humanity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Yay delivery.  Starting a Death Watch is a little harsh, though it&#8217;s a very real possibility, considering how the company has been run to this point.  I hope they do well, you know, for the sake of humanity.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jthorner</title>
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		<dc:creator>jthorner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 13:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; .... delivered to someone (who prefers not to be named) who is not associated with the company on a day to day basis ....&quot;

Sounds like &lt;strong&gt;pre&lt;/strong&gt;-production unit #3.  But hey, Corbin pushed almost 300 Sparrows out of the nest before going under.</description>
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		<title>By: Juniper</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/tesla-birth-watch-48-done/comment-page-1/#comment-426012</link>
		<dc:creator>Juniper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 13:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys are really mean. Give them at least a week to bask in their glory.</description>
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