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	<title>Comments on: Tata Purchase of Jaguar and Land Rover In Doubt</title>
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		<title>By: LDMAN1</title>
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		<dc:creator>LDMAN1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 06:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jthorner :&quot;Jaguar and Land Rover need to be owned and staffed by Brits in order for there to be real “brand DNA”. 

DNA?! Inbreeding leads to genetic defects.

Today, Land Rover owes its profitability to the Germans. L322 (New Range Rover) is a BMW product. The Germans reinvented the Brand away from Range Rover P38., NOT the Brits. Yes, BMW did rip off off-road technology in the process.

Jaguar is nearly dead today because for years it was mainly staffed by Brits who sold cars designed solely by and for the Midlands, in North-America, mainly to their aging customer base. The nail in the coffin for Jag was spending a cool $1 Billion on X350 (New XJ) and making it look exactly like X300 (Old XJ) in order not to upset its British/WASP Customer base.

As for Jaguar Brand DNA one word would suffice to illustrate my point: &quot;Gorgeous.&quot;  
Incest has given Jaguar enough recessive genes for the next 50 generations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->jthorner :&#8221;Jaguar and Land Rover need to be owned and staffed by Brits in order for there to be real “brand DNA”. </p>
<p>DNA?! Inbreeding leads to genetic defects.</p>
<p>Today, Land Rover owes its profitability to the Germans. L322 (New Range Rover) is a BMW product. The Germans reinvented the Brand away from Range Rover P38., NOT the Brits. Yes, BMW did rip off off-road technology in the process.</p>
<p>Jaguar is nearly dead today because for years it was mainly staffed by Brits who sold cars designed solely by and for the Midlands, in North-America, mainly to their aging customer base. The nail in the coffin for Jag was spending a cool $1 Billion on X350 (New XJ) and making it look exactly like X300 (Old XJ) in order not to upset its British/WASP Customer base.</p>
<p>As for Jaguar Brand DNA one word would suffice to illustrate my point: &#8220;Gorgeous.&#8221;<br />
Incest has given Jaguar enough recessive genes for the next 50 generations.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: George Labrador</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Labrador</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 23:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect that the Indian firm would want to ship production to there own Country for these two vehicles, and I guess the &quot;thorn&quot; in the side would be the workers in England and there Union, its will be hard to move work to India I would think!</description>
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		<title>By: Sajeev Mehta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sajeev Mehta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 23:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though I do agree with you, I know people who don&#039;t want an Aston because of the new owners, sad as that sounds. I expect they&#039;ll be happy with an SL, even without any of that Aston craftsmanship or exclusivity. 

One thing I gotta add is that investors/VCs always have a &quot;say,&quot; and they&#039;ll use it if the figures don&#039;t add up on the balance sheet. Whether they publicly admit that is irrelevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Though I do agree with you, I know people who don&#8217;t want an Aston because of the new owners, sad as that sounds. I expect they&#8217;ll be happy with an SL, even without any of that Aston craftsmanship or exclusivity. </p>
<p>One thing I gotta add is that investors/VCs always have a &#8220;say,&#8221; and they&#8217;ll use it if the figures don&#8217;t add up on the balance sheet. Whether they publicly admit that is irrelevant.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Cammy Corrigan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cammy Corrigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Mehta, Prodrive own Aston Martin who used Middle Eastern financiers, but they have no say in how the company is run.

And I would be careful about using that as a metric for what country owns what. Because GM and Ford are traded on the stock market which means, by your logic, GM and Ford aren&#039;t American but owned by many countries.

According to Carlos Ghosn&#039;s book, Nissan is 44.4% owned by Renault (who subsequently own 15% of Renault), 6% by japanese companies and the rest are private pension firms. So, therefore, pension firms can make good cars.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Mr Mehta, Prodrive own Aston Martin who used Middle Eastern financiers, but they have no say in how the company is run.</p>
<p>And I would be careful about using that as a metric for what country owns what. Because GM and Ford are traded on the stock market which means, by your logic, GM and Ford aren&#8217;t American but owned by many countries.</p>
<p>According to Carlos Ghosn&#8217;s book, Nissan is 44.4% owned by Renault (who subsequently own 15% of Renault), 6% by japanese companies and the rest are private pension firms. So, therefore, pension firms can make good cars&#8230;..<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Sajeev Mehta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sajeev Mehta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KatiePuckrik: who owns Aston?  Last time I checked it was owned by a group of Middle Eastern financiers.</description>
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		<title>By: jthorner</title>
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		<dc:creator>jthorner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Contrary to what many say, globalization is neither  a historical imperative nor is it always a good thing.

Culture, point of view and national flavor do indeed matter.  Jaguar and Land Rover need to be owned and staffed by Brits in order for there to be real &quot;brand DNA&quot;.   

Volvo likewise should be an actual honest to goodness Swedish company and should offer the market an honest to goodness Swedish interpretation of the automobile.

The notion that anyone can own anything and still maintain the philosophical integrity of the brand is rubbish.   Look what happened when the Germans tried to run Chrysler!  

Contrary to popular opinion, Mazda is not thriving under Ford ownership but is simply continuing to exist.

Jaguar can no more be managed by Indians (or Americans) than VW could be managed by Brazilians ... and VW has a long history of manufacturing in Brazil.

Now with global financial markets in near meltdown I wonder if any of the UK groups who were bidding for Jag/LR can still get the money together?   If a new auction is held today the price is almost certain to come down from the Ford-Tata deal as the auto business and world economy have deteriorated even more since that deal was made.</description>
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<p>Culture, point of view and national flavor do indeed matter.  Jaguar and Land Rover need to be owned and staffed by Brits in order for there to be real &#8220;brand DNA&#8221;.   </p>
<p>Volvo likewise should be an actual honest to goodness Swedish company and should offer the market an honest to goodness Swedish interpretation of the automobile.</p>
<p>The notion that anyone can own anything and still maintain the philosophical integrity of the brand is rubbish.   Look what happened when the Germans tried to run Chrysler!  </p>
<p>Contrary to popular opinion, Mazda is not thriving under Ford ownership but is simply continuing to exist.</p>
<p>Jaguar can no more be managed by Indians (or Americans) than VW could be managed by Brazilians &#8230; and VW has a long history of manufacturing in Brazil.</p>
<p>Now with global financial markets in near meltdown I wonder if any of the UK groups who were bidding for Jag/LR can still get the money together?   If a new auction is held today the price is almost certain to come down from the Ford-Tata deal as the auto business and world economy have deteriorated even more since that deal was made.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Cammy Corrigan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cammy Corrigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ford are grade A spanners! Sir Anthony Bamford made an offer to buy Jaguar (and explicitly said that he didn&#039;t want Land Rover) and Ford never followed it up.

Everyone would have won. Ford gets shot of Jaguar and keeps cash cow Land Rover, Jagaur gets a owner who can give the one thing Jaguar has been lacking (passion) and the UK would no longer have to be subject to the jokes of not having a car industry*!

* = Not strictly true, we&#039;ve got Aston Martin back! :O)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Ford are grade A spanners! Sir Anthony Bamford made an offer to buy Jaguar (and explicitly said that he didn&#8217;t want Land Rover) and Ford never followed it up.</p>
<p>Everyone would have won. Ford gets shot of Jaguar and keeps cash cow Land Rover, Jagaur gets a owner who can give the one thing Jaguar has been lacking (passion) and the UK would no longer have to be subject to the jokes of not having a car industry*!</p>
<p>* = Not strictly true, we&#8217;ve got Aston Martin back! :O)<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: windswords</title>
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		<dc:creator>windswords</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasn&#039;t there someone who used to post that Tata&#039;s market capitalization exceeded GM&#039;s? Well, maybe they&#039;re richer on paper...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Wasn&#8217;t there someone who used to post that Tata&#8217;s market capitalization exceeded GM&#8217;s? Well, maybe they&#8217;re richer on paper&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: driving course</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/tata-purchase-of-jaguar-and-land-rover-in-doubt/comment-page-1/#comment-192452</link>
		<dc:creator>driving course</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the deal doesn&#039;t go through with Tata who else would be a buyer?</description>
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		<title>By: Stephan Wilkinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephan Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He also said that if they acquire the two brands, they &quot;have no intention of meddling with them in any way,&quot; which is right up there with &quot;I promise to pull out before I come.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->He also said that if they acquire the two brands, they &#8220;have no intention of meddling with them in any way,&#8221; which is right up there with &#8220;I promise to pull out before I come.&#8221;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: frontline</title>
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		<dc:creator>frontline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was there any truth in Tata selling off Jaguar as soon as they settled?</description>
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		<title>By: Bancho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bancho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If a deal looks like crap, and smells like crap...</description>
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