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TTAC reader Tiburon Guy writes:

2001 Tiburon (yep, this one again): Gassing up clicks like it’s full, even after only a dollar, then keeps clicking. Tank is at an 8th when fueling and yes, i’ve made sure it’s not the nozzle (and does it no matter where I go).

OBDII code PO441 Small Evap Leak (changed gas cap, no difference) Had a buddy pull the charcoal filter from the back of the car and cleaned it out, no difference. Becoming a big pain in the arse now since every time I gas up it spits out at me and takes literally 30+ minutes to fill up.

Please help!

Sajeev answers:

No offense to Mr. Tiburon Guy (he seems cool) but this query is precisely why we have message forums. P0441 is a code you type into a forum/search engine and get an immediate answer.  I like this website to get the ball rolling. It gives a good description of the problem(s) and the systems involved.

Once again, more shame: you just threw away money on a new gas cap for no good reason! I know it was the easy thing to do, but it wasn’t gonna work.  So here’s the deal, a P0441 code means several things:

1. Blocked up charcoal canister, perhaps cleaning the filter was never gonna fix anything?

2. Blocked or bad canister purge valve, or the vacuum/electrics behind it are toast. This is my guess to your problem. 

3. Physical damage to venting system, or fueling system.

A quick bit of googling came up with this thread on Hyundaiforum.com; mandatory reading before doing anything.  Then find a similar thread about the Tiburon instead. Once you have all the right information, examine the system for damage and follow their instructions.  If all else fails, buy the shop manual(s) and do it all step-by-step from there.  You will find your problem.  Best of luck.

Send your queries to sajeev@thetruthaboutcars.com. Spare no details and ask for a speedy resolution if you’re in a hurry.

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Junkyard Find: 2001 Hyundai Tiburon http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/07/junkyard-find-2001-hyundai-tiburon/ http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/07/junkyard-find-2001-hyundai-tiburon/#comments Wed, 18 Jul 2012 13:00:18 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=453187 One thing I’ve noticed after decades of prowling high-turnover self-service wrecking yards is the increasing average age of junked Hyundais. The first-gen Excel started showing up in junkyards in large quantities when the cars were about five years old (i.e., the worst car available in North America during the second half of the 20th century), […]

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One thing I’ve noticed after decades of prowling high-turnover self-service wrecking yards is the increasing average age of junked Hyundais. The first-gen Excel started showing up in junkyards in large quantities when the cars were about five years old (i.e., the worst car available in North America during the second half of the 20th century), and by the mid-1990s they were all gone. These days, most of the Crusher-bound Hyundais I see are more like 15 years old, about halfway between the average age of junked Chryslers and junked Hondas. The Tiburon has been around since 1997, and this is perhaps the third one I’ve seen in this setting.
Because I’ve never seen a Tiburon in a 24 Hours of LeMons race, I can infer that even beat examples are worth something (or LeMons racers are so terrified by the Excel’s reputation that they want nothing to do with any Hyundai product).
Not quite 150,000 miles on the clock, then a cosmetically disfiguring crash and probably some mechanical problems made this car not worth fixing up. The first of many Tiburons to show up in the self-serve yards?
After the 60-year-old Kaiser we saw yesterday, I felt it was time for a somewhat less elderly Junkyard Find. Speaking of which, I haven’t gotten around to making computer wallpaper images from the Brain Melting Junkyard photo sessions, but you can find plenty of free junkyard wallpapers at my site.

Korean-market car ads are always so macho. The Tiburon was a bullet!

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Piston Slap: Beached Shark, Broken Diagnostic Tree? http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2010/03/piston-slap-beached-shark-broken-diagnostic-tree/ http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2010/03/piston-slap-beached-shark-broken-diagnostic-tree/#comments Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:56:43 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=348097 TTAC reader Tiburon Guy writes: Hey Sajeev: Long time reader, first time e-mailer. I have a 2001 Hyundai Tiburon that I inherited from my wife when we got married (dowrys are making a comeback!). It has 70,000 original miles and I’ve maintained it properly. Recently a problem arose that the dealer could not point out […]

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TTAC reader Tiburon Guy writes:

Hey Sajeev: Long time reader, first time e-mailer. I have a 2001 Hyundai Tiburon that I inherited from my wife when we got married (dowrys are making a comeback!). It has 70,000 original miles and I’ve maintained it properly. Recently a problem arose that the dealer could not point out nor could my personal mechanic (ASC Certified) determine the cause or solution to.

It’s an automatic transmission. Sometimes when starting the car, pushing the release button on the shifter is downright impossible. It’s stuck and won’t engage, which means I can’t shift into gear. After a few moments of wiggling and pushing and jerking (and crying on my wife’s part) it will give and we’ll be on our way.

This doesn’t happen all the time though, it’s once every month or so. Any idea what could cause this and if so, what can I do to fix or prevent it from occurring? We are the only owners of the car and have not raced or abused it. I’ve hunted the forums on the Hyundai fan sites and I can’t find anyone with the same issue.

Sajeev writes:

These brake-shift interlocks are a simple design: you push the brake pedal, the brake switch takes note, then a solenoid on the shifter releases it’s grip and you move out of park.  And a competent wrench should find the offending part rather quickly.

The brake switch is simple, check if the brake lights illuminate when you touch the pedal.  There’s probably a fuse, so the owner’s manual has you covered. Test the solenoid with a factory service manual (on-line or on paper) or pull it out of the shifter and stick 12v of juice at it. And removing the shifter might be a good way to check for binding in its mechanism. Let’s assume (hope?) this diagnostic tree was followed.

But if everything passed muster, perhaps the parking spot is the problem?  Many cars are harder to move from park with a transmission “loaded” by the forces of an uphill parking space. And sometimes the transmission makes a terrible sound when the shifter finally moves out of park.  The only solution is to engage the parking brake before going into park.  And reverse the operation when you return: start the car, put the autobox in neutral or in gear, and release the parking brake.

More to the point, I suspect you can Cliff’s Notes my writing, post it on a Hyundai enthusiast forum and get a straight answer in a matter of hours. That’s my ultimate recommendation.

Bonus! A Piston Slap Nugget of Wisdom:

There is significant mechanical waste in modern cars, items that neither improve the driving experience nor make the car any safer.  I suspect failed brake interlocks cause more stranded motorists, grey hairs, and unnecessary repairs than any potential lives saved from accidentally hitting the wrong foot pedal after start up.

Plus, the extra dollars added to a car’s MSRP are better spent on a fancy dinner with that special someone. And with that, I’d like to thank 60 Minutes for giving us this electrical pain in the ass, and make the obligatory hyperlink to Paul Niedermeyer’s excellent article on the Audi 5000.

(Send your queries to mehta@ttac.com)

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