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		<title>Hammer Time: What Recession?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steven Lang</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[Auctions]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[I live in a nice quaint small town called Powder Springs, Georgia. The sidewalks are paved downtown and even partially bricked for artistic value. Thanks to a generous donation by the taxpayers. The streetlamps are ornate and well lit thanks to the same contributors. The old closed down ACE hardware store is now the new [...]]]></description>
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<p>I live in a nice quaint small town called Powder Springs, Georgia.</p>
<p>The sidewalks are paved downtown and even partially bricked for artistic value. Thanks to a generous donation by the taxpayers. The streetlamps are ornate and well lit thanks to the same contributors.</p>
<p>The old closed down ACE hardware store is now the new police station. The old city hall has been replaced by the new city hall.  Even the vehicles that get too old to keep get replaced with shiny new ones thanks to American taxpayers far and wide.</p>
<p>How many miles do you think would it take to replace a car owned by the local city government?</p>
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<p>How about less than 50,000 miles?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/02/hammer-time-what-recession/imp1/" rel="attachment wp-att-477484"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-477484" title="Picture Courtesy of Govdeals.com" src="http://images.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/02/imp1-450x337.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="337" /></a></p>
<p>This 2005 Chevy Impala has all of 49,974 miles on it. Like any other vehicle that has the agony of driving in what many view as the smoothest roads in the country, this Impala is ready to be put out to pasture.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/02/hammer-time-what-recession/imp2/" rel="attachment wp-att-477491"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-477491" title="Picture Courtesy of Govdeals.com" src="http://images.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/02/imp2-450x300.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="300" /></a></p>
<p>For some reason, this Impala wasn&#8217;t much loved in the city vehicle pool.  7000 miles a year for a non-police unit likely means that this ride didn&#8217;t have to go past too many closed down businesses to get to the Waffle House a mile down the street.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/02/hammer-time-what-recession/imp4/" rel="attachment wp-att-477493"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-477493" title="Picture courtesy of govdeals.com" src="http://images.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/02/imp4-450x337.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="337" /></a></p>
<p>What? You want me to get interior pics? Fat chance on that. This is all you are going to see of a car that was made possible by you alone, Mr. John Q Public!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/02/hammer-time-what-recession/imp5/" rel="attachment wp-att-477494"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-477494" title="Picture Courtesy of Govdeals.com" src="http://images.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/02/imp5-450x337.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="337" /></a></p>
<p>Yawn! You want me to write a description of this car too? Okay, fine then! I&#8217;m taking an early lunch after that!</p>
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<td colspan="2">2005 <a id="_GPLITA_1" title="Click to Continue &gt; by I Want This" href="http://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&amp;itemid=65&amp;acctid=2197#">Chevrolet Impala</a> Base SEDAN 4-DR, 3.8L V6 OHV 12V.<a id="_GPLITA_0" title="Click to Continue &gt; by I Want This" href="http://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&amp;itemid=65&amp;acctid=2197#">2007 Ford Crown Victoria</a> Police Interceptor SEDAN 4-DR, 4.6L V8 SOHC 16V.2001 Ford Crown Vic info</td>
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<p>I did mention it was a SEDAN. So as far as I&#8217;m concerned, my job is done here.</p>
<p>Here are a few other <a href="http://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.AdvSearchResultsNew&amp;kWord=powder%20springs,%20ga&amp;whichForm=vehicle&amp;searchPg=Main">prized jewels</a> for the offering.  I do have to confess that this is not anywhere near the worst presentation of government vehicles that I have ever seen. In fact, I do have to offer kudos for the lady who came back and answered questions about this vehicle.</p>
<p>But this does bring on an important consideration. If a state government is issued approximately 10,000 vehicles every year, wouldn&#8217;t it make sense to either&#8230;</p>
<p>A) Enact some minimal standards on how these vehicles are marketed so that the taxpayers get a fair return? I mean for cryin&#8217; out loud, the 2007 Crown Vic Police Interceptor has <a href="http://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&amp;itemid=64&amp;acctid=2197">only one picture</a>. With all the time cops have to spend in those things, wouldn&#8217;t it make sense to at least open a door, sit in a seat, and click a button?</p>
<p>or</p>
<p>B) Let someone else do it. No, I wouldn&#8217;t encourage some gypsy auction company to come by and quick hammer the vehicles to a few of the connected locals (and Lord knows we have plenty of those.) The Govdeals.com site is fine. It&#8217;s the presentation that needs work.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/02/hammer-time-what-recession/vic1-2/" rel="attachment wp-att-477517"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-477517" title="Picture Courtesy of Govdeals.com" src="http://images.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/02/vic1-450x300.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="300" /></a></p>
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<p>I don&#8217;t know about you guys but <a href="http://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&amp;itemid=64&amp;acctid=2197">this one</a> is on my short list. You can find the rest of the vehicles <a href="http://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.AdvSearchResultsNew&amp;kWord=powder%20springs,%20ga&amp;whichForm=vehicle&amp;searchPg=Main">here</a>. Please bid. I want my taxes to go down for once.</p>
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		<title>Question Of The Day: Have We Passed The Peak Of Cheap?</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/09/question-of-the-day-have-we-passed-the-peak-of-cheap/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 15:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steven Lang</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[Cheap]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[The good old days of late summer 2009. It was a great time to buy a new car. Monthly new car sales in North America had plummeted to under 10 million units.  Access to financing seemed to be near impossible for a lot of consumers. Brands were orphaned. Leasing collapsed. Banks were picky. The future [...]]]></description>
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<p>The good old days of late summer 2009.</p>
<p>It was a great time to buy a new car. Monthly new car sales in North America had <a href="http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2009/07/busy-day.html">plummeted to under 10 million units</a>.  Access to financing seemed to be near impossible for a lot of consumers. Brands were orphaned. Leasing collapsed. Banks were picky. The future was uncertain and&#8230; raw materials were cheap.</p>
<p>It was a good time to buy new at a deep, deep discount.  Has that time passed?</p>
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<p>What got me thinking about this was a late model car I was using for my auction travels. A popular car. One that sells like hotcakes. Yet it looks like nearly every interior component within it has been parts binned, deconteted and cheaped out to epic proportions.</p>
<p>It offered good fuel economy, a nice radio display, and several hundred pounds of plastics that were in varying forms. Could the car get any cheaper and remain marketable?</p>
<p>I had my doubts. From the wafer fin door panels. To the glossy, Tonka like display of the center dashboard. It reeked of cheap to the point where an hour inside of it felt like a petrochemical bath.</p>
<p>As I went to that evening sale, I thought,  &#8221;I wonder if this material is cheaper to buy than cardboard boxes?&#8221; It was an honest question because everybody uses this cheap stuff. From the mightiest of manufacturers to the most irrelevant of niche players. The hollowness of material quality and feel for anything 20k or under seems to be an epidemic of cheap these days.</p>
<p>Yet everything costs more. Reconsider those MSRP&#8217;s for a moment. There was a time not to long ago when a $13,000 Yaris, Versa, Cobalt, Aveo, Rio, and PT Cruiser were publicized on a paperish pulp we used to know as a newspaper. Remember those?</p>
<p>Now a few of these names, along with their far more marketable descendants are venturing hard towards the $20,000 mark. There a few discounts. Maybe even a rebate or two.  But the hard march to the next big round number seems to be the new tune of 2012. A loaded Camry can now retail for well over $30k. The Lexus LS400h can now cost nearly $100k.  We&#8217;re talking two decent foreclosed houses in the ex-urbs here folks!</p>
<p>This brings the TTAC readers to our question for today. Have we passed the peak of cheap? Are we bound to a new world of car buying where commuter cars only feel cheap and the &#8216;nip and tuck&#8217; of cost containment has run the course?</p>
<p>What says you?</p>
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