The Truth About Cars » odometer http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com The Truth About Cars is dedicated to providing candid, unbiased automobile reviews and the latest in auto industry news. Sat, 01 Aug 2015 18:00:20 +0000 en-US hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.2 The Truth About Cars is dedicated to providing candid, unbiased automobile reviews and the latest in auto industry news. The Truth About Cars no The Truth About Cars editors@ttac.com editors@ttac.com (The Truth About Cars) 2006-2009 The Truth About Cars The Truth About Cars » odometer http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/wp-content/themes/ttac-theme/images/logo.gif http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com Piston Slap: The Fallacy of Engine Hour Meters? http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2015/07/piston-slap-fallacy-believing-engine-hour-meters/ http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2015/07/piston-slap-fallacy-believing-engine-hour-meters/#comments Thu, 16 Jul 2015 11:00:19 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=1113777   Ryan writes: Sajeev Mehta It appears that you have picked up where Steve Lang left off. That is answering general automotive questions that puzzle automotive enthusiast. My question, what average speed would be good or bad for a used vehicle? I am in the market for a used truck (3-6yrs old), and have noticed […]

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Ryan writes:

Sajeev Mehta

It appears that you have picked up where Steve Lang left off. That is answering general automotive questions that puzzle automotive enthusiast.

My question, what average speed would be good or bad for a used vehicle? I am in the market for a used truck (3-6yrs old), and have noticed that these newer trucks have mileage and hours tracked in the dash display screen. It is easy math to calculate the average speed for the life of the vehicle. What should I look for?

Or run from?

Best and brightest?

Sajeev answers:

I’ve been doing this Piston Slap thing for how many years now? (Hint: longer than Lang’s written Q&A columns.) Personal affronts to my fragile ego aside, you ask a good question.

With the advent of engine hour meters on modern gauge clusters, calculating average speed is easy.

But to make a purchase decision on that figure? No, considering the plethora of gearing choices and driving conditions that induce wear independent of your calculations. And the fact these meters can be reset … more on that later.

A higher average speed implies more highway driving, which is almost universally regarded as better than city miles. Vehicles with higher average speeds spend less time on the brakes, or accelerating from a standstill, or wearing engines out with cold oil, etc.

But here’s a problem: Average speed displays can be reset. Disconnect the battery for a few hours.  Or re-flash the computer for a performance tune to wipe that number clean while adding value to would-be buyers looking for more performance and/or fuel economy.

I care not for this metric. When buying a used vehicle, stick to the basics: inside/outside condition, service history, fluid age/quality and the lifespan of typical wear items like tires/brakes. If the engine hour meter and odometer also agree with your assessment, then hey, even more reason to open your wallet.

Send your queries to sajeev@thetruthaboutcars.com. Spare no details and ask for a speedy resolution if you’re in a hurry … but be realistic, and use your make/model specific forums instead of TTAC for more timely advice.

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Tales From The Cooler: The Land Of The Crooked Car Buyer – Part One http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/12/tales-from-the-cooler-the-land-of-the-crooked-car-buyer-part-one/ http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/12/tales-from-the-cooler-the-land-of-the-crooked-car-buyer-part-one/#comments Thu, 20 Dec 2012 14:53:10 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=470611   I recently stood on the showroom floor of a Los Angeles-area luxury car dealership as their sales manager pointed out a middle-aged couple browsing the lot. “We will never sell them a car,” he said. “In fact, we are going to politely ask them to leave.” Why? “One of our salespeople recognized them. They […]

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I recently stood on the showroom floor of a Los Angeles-area luxury car dealership as their sales manager pointed out a middle-aged couple browsing the lot. “We will never sell them a car,” he said. “In fact, we are going to politely ask them to leave.” Why? “One of our salespeople recognized them. They are professional Lemon Law scammers. They have hit two other dealers but they are not going to hit us.”

Welcome to Southern California where car buyers are often criminals, ripping off automakers and their captive finance arms to the tune of over $50M a year. These sophisticated white-collar crooks are skilled at using fraudulent means to obtain a vehicle, such as ID theft or sub-leasing cons, or by using fraudulent means to dispose of a vehicle, such as engineering bogus Lemon Law claims or by rolling back a car’s odometer to avoid lease-end excess-mileage charges.

The targeted vehicles are almost exclusively from Audi, BMW, Lexus, Mercedes-Benz and Porsche brands. These automakers and their banks report that around 50% of their fraud cases nationwide occur in Southern California. The Los Angeles melting pot attracts the best and worst class of people, including some clever organized crime groups. Add to this the perception that you are nobody if you are not driving the latest luxomobile in LA and I say you got Trouble in RX City. It is said that all automotive trends start in Southern California and consumers defrauding automakers is one of them.

Some of the outlaws are extremely adept at their chosen crimes and some are hilariously inept. In Part One of Two installments in this exclusive series we will look at the car disposal criminals, starting with a scheme currently sweeping the Southland: The Lemon Law Scam.

In the past, only folks who fell on hard times and were behind on their car’s lease payments would attempt this rip-off; now bandits plan the gambit upfront as a means to drive a new luxury car every year. These unethical individuals also boast high credit scores; in other words they are a bank’s worst nightmare.

The con works like this: go lease a high-end automobile for the longest term, the least miles and lowest down payment you can negotiate. For example, you can lease a 2013 BMW 535i for 39 months at 10,000 miles per year for as little as $585 per month with a few hundred dollars down for title, and license fees. That’s a cut-rate payment for a $55,000 ride and you are now cruising Colorado Boulevard in style.

Enjoy driving your Beemer for a year or so or until you decide you want the latest Lexus. At this point you are buried in your lease deeper than Jimmy Hoffa as it would cost mega-thousands of dollars over the value of the vehicle to pay off the contract.

It is now time for the twist: you or a technician friend tamper with the mechanics of the car to make it eligible to be a Lemon Law buyback for being unrepairable. In California, a defect that cannot be repaired in as little as two visits to the dealer, or if the vehicle is in the shop over 30 days, can be eligible for Lemon Law status. Thus, a stuck dashboard warning light, a balky seat belt buckle or leaking brake fluid can make you the poor victim of the evil carmaker. All it takes is a little tinkering.

Next, hire one of scores of LA lawyers like this one who specialize in Lemon Law cases. Under the threat of a lawsuit, the attorney will negotiate with BMW of North America for them to buy your car back and pay off the lease and will often score a few extra dollars for your “hardship.” Once the case is settled, you head over to your local Lexus store and repeat the process.

One Lemon Law attorney discusses the tampering issue on his website but does not specifically discourage the practice:

…OWNERS BEWARE! What consumer’s don’t know is what the car manufacturer’s DO know about owners tampering with their vehicle’s to “create” a California Lemon Law case…Typical “tampering” of cars include repeated incidents of dash warning lights for various vehicle systems, including, but not limited to: SRS/airbag, “CHECK ENGINE”, traction control, brakes, ABS, and more…Making matters even MORE serious, auto dealers now have special “tamper-seal” for electrical connectors and devices that are invisible to the eye. The newest generation even has a “imprint” film, that takes fingerprints…

The lawyer’s assessment of automakers’ countermeasures is a few years out of date. The latest defense tactics must not be revealed here as the crooks no doubt have Google Alerts set for the words, “tamper” and “Lemon Law.”

Customers caught tampering with their cars find their claims denied and are advised to never set foot in that brand’s dealerships again. Like with most fraud, prosecution by carmakers or their banks is uncommon – accusing a car owner of fraud and losing the case would result in a public relations disaster.

Odometer Fraud

Before we discuss the Angelenos who roll back their odometers to defraud automakers, allow us to make this statement:

America is losing the war on odometer fraud and the situation is growing worse.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has been claiming since 2002 that there are 450,000 cases of odometer tampering annually in the United States, while CarFax reports the number of instances has jumped 57% in the past four years. Contrast this with the fact that less than 20 people per year are actually convicted of the crime and this indicates that the enforcement of odometer laws is not a priority with state and federal agencies.

The vast majority of people apprehended for odometer fraud are either individuals or owners of independent used car lots. Most of the clockers caught are either still plying their trade like this man or receive a slap on the wrist like this dealer. The latter, who also covered some odometers with electrical tape to fool buyers, has been allowed by the court to return to the wholesale car business.

Speaking of dumb criminals, this father and son team from Florida would never make it in California – their placing fliers on vehicles at an auction offering their “odometer services” was incredibly dim-witted and not up to the sophisticated standards of Southland scammers.

The recent explosion in the number of odometer fraud cases can be directly tied to the easy availability of digital odometer rollback devices. For a few hundred dollars, anyone can buy a “mileage correction” contraption from a number of firms on the Internet, even on eBay and amazon.com. The so-called “CAN” device below is offered by a company in China:

 

“BENZ CAN Filter By installing this small pcb inside the EIS module, you can make mileage corrections on NEW MB cars of w221/w164/w204/w212……, and scanner can not find original mileage from EIS module”

Makers of these devices claim their tools can fool a car’s Engine Information System (EIS), thus making the mileage adjustment permanently undetectable; the automakers claim this is not true – at least that is what they say publicly.

Our Los Angeles dodgers plot their ploy upfront, much like the Lemon Law liars. They are high-mileage drivers, but enter into a low-mileage lease to get the cheapest possible payment. On most brands this means 10,000 miles per year, though Mercedes-Benz Financial offers 7,500 mile leases, making them more vulnerable to this scheme.

During the term of their lease, the lessees never have their car serviced at a dealership or shop that will record their odometer reading, thus outfoxing CarFax and the bank. By reversing their odometers prior to lease end, the offenders will then not be charged excess mileage penalties by the bank, which is typically 25 cents per mile. Thus on a three-year term a scammer can avoid $7,500 in charges based on driving 20,000 miles per year on a 10,000 mile lease.

One luxury automaker’s captive finance arm recently filed the rare lawsuit against a customer, accusing him of clocking his odometer just before the termination of his lease. The defendant lives in the city of Glendale, considered by automakers to be the epicenter of fraud in Southern California. In this closely-watched case, the bank is more interested in sending a message to the tight-knit criminal community rather than recouping the thousand of dollars in diminished value of the car.

Stay tuned for Part Two of our series on LA’s conniving auto buyers, where we will explore identity theft, sub-leasing, crooked auto brokers, and how you can obtain your very own parts car for free.

It is never boring being in the automobile business here in the City of Anglers…

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