The Truth About Cars » Jeep Grand Wagoneer http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com The Truth About Cars is dedicated to providing candid, unbiased automobile reviews and the latest in auto industry news. Mon, 08 Dec 2014 23:30:29 +0000 en-US hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.0.1 The Truth About Cars is dedicated to providing candid, unbiased automobile reviews and the latest in auto industry news. The Truth About Cars no The Truth About Cars editors@ttac.com editors@ttac.com (The Truth About Cars) 2006-2009 The Truth About Cars The Truth About Cars is dedicated to providing candid, unbiased automobile reviews and the latest in auto industry news. The Truth About Cars » Jeep Grand Wagoneer http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/wp-content/themes/ttac-theme/images/logo.gif http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com Jeep Grand Wagoneer Returning Sometime After B-Segment Crossover http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/09/jeep-grand-wagoneer-returning-sometime-after-b-segment-crossover/ http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/09/jeep-grand-wagoneer-returning-sometime-after-b-segment-crossover/#comments Mon, 30 Sep 2013 19:00:39 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=532185 Whispers of the Jeep Grand Wagoneer’s return have been floating around for some time now, but official confirmation has finally come from Jeep brass, with CEO Mike Manley speaking about the new model in a Detroit Free Press interview. Discussing future plans for the brand, Manley outlined his vision for a future B-Segment crossover, which he […]

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Whispers of the Jeep Grand Wagoneer’s return have been floating around for some time now, but official confirmation has finally come from Jeep brass, with CEO Mike Manley speaking about the new model in a Detroit Free Press interview.

Discussing future plans for the brand, Manley outlined his vision for a future B-Segment crossover, which he said will initially be more popular outside the United States than within it. But Manley was optimistic that the small crossover segment, which is booming across the globe, would eventually blossom in America.

Manley also discussed a future flagship product, stating

“And then the nameplate that I would also like to bring back where the majority of the market is in the U.S. and some in the Middle East, is Grand Wagoneer,” Manley said. “I see that at the top end sitting above Grand Cherokee.”

Talk of the Grand Wagoneer also coincides with some rumors that the Durango may disappear from Dodge’s lineup, leaving the Grand Wagoneer as the three-row option for buyers of the Grand Cherokee. The Grand Wagoneer has enjoyed a revival in pop culture as a retro-cool vehicle for the East Coast set, with prices for used example on a steady rise over the last few years.

Earlier this year, Jeep staff visited noted Grand Wagoneer restorer Wagonmasters for a research trip regarding the vehicle and how to maintain authenticity through the next generation. The next Grand Wagoneer, along with the B-Segment Jeep, are expected to bow in 2016.

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Derek And Doug’s Fantastic Crap Wagons: Jeep Grand Wagoneer http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/06/derek-and-dougs-fantastic-crap-wagons-jeep-grand-wagoneer/ http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/06/derek-and-dougs-fantastic-crap-wagons-jeep-grand-wagoneer/#comments Mon, 10 Jun 2013 20:13:07 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=491570 Doug writes: I really like the Jeep Grand Wagoneer.  I think that’s because I like all boxy SUVs, which is why I’ve owned most of them.  I have never, however, owned a Grand Wagoneer. One look at the local used car market tells you precisely why that is: they’re expensive.  For instance:  This 1984 Grand […]

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Doug writes:

I really like the Jeep Grand Wagoneer.  I think that’s because I like all boxy SUVs, which is why I’ve owned most of them.  I have never, however, owned a Grand Wagoneer.

One look at the local used car market tells you precisely why that is: they’re expensive.  For instance:

 This 1984 Grand Wagoneer is actually pretty damn cool.  Mileage is unlisted (mileage is never listed) but I think we can all agree mileage doesn’t really matter.  That’s because it’s lifted, gorgeous, and owned by someone who clearly cares about it, but possibly cannot read an odometer.  The problem: it’s nearly $7,000 for a 30-year-old SUV with 160 horsepower and an engine described as leaking “some oil at the rear main seal.”

Forget the lifted one.  I actually prefer this 1989 example, partially because it appears to be owned by the kind of old money people who really should be driving Grand Wagoneers. (Pro tip: if you’re going to sell a used car on Craigslist, do not photograph it on the grounds of your estate.)

The owner is asking $5,850.  It’s got cold air conditioning, a rebuilt engine, and recent tires and brakes.  Unfortunately, mileage is also unlisted.  If you actually visit the listing you’ll note it says “CONDITION, SHOWING 78,000 MILES,” but that’s meaningless since the Grand Wagoneer has a five-digit odometer.  Could be 178,000.  Could be 278,000.  Could be 4,378,000, which would probably be described by an ever-optimistic Craigslist seller as “all highway.”

Unfortunately, I still can’t wrap my head around spending six grand for a 25-year-old SUV that has its roots in the ‘60s and was sold in the Middle East as the Jeep Ahoo.  Even if it has really thin D-pillars.

Derek writes:

Like any Member of the Tribe worth his Polo shirt, I have Ralphie Lifschitz-esque desire to be a WASP. Unfortunately, I look ridiculous in Nantucket Reds and every time I view the family dinner scene in “Annie Hall”, it reminds me far too much of having dinner with my ex-girlfriend’s family.

I haven’t given up on the four-wheeled essence of preppy cool, the Jeep Grand Wagoneer. There is something timeless about these cars that goes beyond the wood paneling, though it’s taken a couple decades for them to be appreciated by the broader car community (though, based on other posts on TTAC, plenty of the B&B have a strong affinity for them).

Doug is lucky that the Southern climate is conducive to preserving these cars. In my entire province, there are only three examples and they’re all varying degrees of everything I don’t want.

At one end, we have a $12,000 off-road special with a lift kit and other parts that I’m totally ignorant about. All I know is that $12k is roughly a third of the way to a gorgeous Wagonmasters car. Might as well buy the best or go home. There’s also another example for $3,800, again with off-road gear but no wood trim. At least the mileage is low (under 60k miles). For the enterprising mechanic, there’s a field car too. I am not that guy.

 

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Junkyard Find: 1989 Jeep Grand Wagoneer http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/08/junkyard-find-1989-jeep-grand-wagoneer/ http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/08/junkyard-find-1989-jeep-grand-wagoneer/#comments Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:00:57 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=456670 Back when I wrote the Automotive Survivors series (Part I and Part II), I specified that I was only considering cars built for 20 or more years, and I included boldface text stating NO TRUCKS! NO TRUCKS! Naturally, I got barraged with weeks of hate mail from the Land Rover Jihad (because Land Rovers were […]

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Back when I wrote the Automotive Survivors series (Part I and Part II), I specified that I was only considering cars built for 20 or more years, and I included boldface text stating NO TRUCKS! NO TRUCKS! Naturally, I got barraged with weeks of hate mail from the Land Rover Jihad (because Land Rovers were being slapped together out of mud and sticks by Celtic tribesman circa 600 BC and thus my cars-only restriction was fatwa-worthy), but that was nothing next to what I heard from the Wagoneer Jihad. Legendary industrial designer Brooks Stevens drew up the original SJ platform-based Wagoneer for Willys-Overland in the year 1905 (OK, the early 1960s), and Kaiser-Jeep, AMC, and Chrysler kept building great big SJ Cherokees and Grand Cherokees until the sun collapsed and became a red giant (OK, until 1991). That meant that Chrysler was building AMC 360s in addition to Franco-Swedish PRV V6s into the 1990s. And, just as you could buy Super 8 movie film at ordinary stores until the early 1990s, so could you buy Jeep SJs with Simu-Wood™ plastic woodie siding. Here’s an example I found last week in a Denver self-serve yard.
Would you believe that this truck was built only 23 years ago?
The “wood” trim looks fairly convincing from 100 feet away. Up close, not so much.
These things rode like early-60s trucks, and they drank gas like early-60s trucks. Still, they were competent and generally reliable machines, and there was no reason for anybody to stop building them as long as customers craved the SJ.

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