The Truth About Cars » for sale http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com The Truth About Cars is dedicated to providing candid, unbiased automobile reviews and the latest in auto industry news. Sat, 02 Aug 2014 03:20:50 +0000 en-US hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.1 The Truth About Cars is dedicated to providing candid, unbiased automobile reviews and the latest in auto industry news. The Truth About Cars no The Truth About Cars editors@ttac.com editors@ttac.com (The Truth About Cars) 2006-2009 The Truth About Cars The Truth About Cars is dedicated to providing candid, unbiased automobile reviews and the latest in auto industry news. The Truth About Cars » for sale http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/wp-content/themes/ttac-theme/images/logo.gif http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com Defeat The DHS With This Diesel Nissan http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/05/defeat-the-dhs-with-this-diesel-nissan/ http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/05/defeat-the-dhs-with-this-diesel-nissan/#comments Thu, 23 May 2013 14:21:03 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=489376 The Department of Homeland Security may have the Land Rover Defender on their radar, but one Houston truck enthusiast has another pretty cool off-roader for sale, one that’s apparently legally imported too. The Nissan Patrol is Nissan’s version of the Toyota Land Cruiser – while not quite as popular as the LC, you can still […]

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The Department of Homeland Security may have the Land Rover Defender on their radar, but one Houston truck enthusiast has another pretty cool off-roader for sale, one that’s apparently legally imported too.

The Nissan Patrol is Nissan’s version of the Toyota Land Cruiser – while not quite as popular as the LC, you can still find them used by various UN agencies wherever there is a humanitarian crisis. They’re also quite popular in the Middle East as desert playthings.

The example for sale in Houston is a manual example with a diesel engine and appears to have originated in Central America. While we actually get the current Patrol in the form of the Infiniti QX56 (fun fact: that car has one of the best HVAC systems in the world, since the A/C was designed with Middle Eastern customers in mind), this version is far more rugged than the somewhat sanitized latest iteration.

In fact, Nissan will still sell you a new version of this Patrol, dubbed the Y61, in Australia, where the necessity of an indestructible SUV has led Toyota to all sell an ancient version of the Toyota Land Cruiser. Ditto for places like the UAE, where the Emiratis consider them to be “cheap” cars for desert dune bashing.

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Celebrate the 4th Of July With A Cheese-Eating Surrender Monkey Hot Hatch http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/07/celebrate-the-4th-of-july-with-a-cheese-eating-surrender-monkey-hot-hatch/ http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/07/celebrate-the-4th-of-july-with-a-cheese-eating-surrender-monkey-hot-hatch/#comments Wed, 04 Jul 2012 15:14:01 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=451225 Here’s to all my American friends and readers; your glorious country is 236 years old, still the land of opportunity, where immigrants from all over the world flock to make their dreams come true. But you must wait an absurdly long time to import clapped-out world-market hot hatches, like this Peugeot 106 GTI. Soviet Canuckistan […]

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Here’s to all my American friends and readers; your glorious country is 236 years old, still the land of opportunity, where immigrants from all over the world flock to make their dreams come true. But you must wait an absurdly long time to import clapped-out world-market hot hatches, like this Peugeot 106 GTI. Soviet Canuckistan isn’t so bad now, is it?

The 106 GTI doesn’t have the name recognition of say, a 205 GTI, but it’s regarded as one of the best handling cars of all-time by many European mags. 120 horsepower isn’t too impressive, until you consider that it weighs 2090 lbs, less than a first-generation 1.6L Miata. The one seen above is a Japanese import, which means it was likely well cared for due to the rigorous vehicle inspection process. Only 7500 miles are on the clock, but I’m not brave enough to risk a French hot hatch orphan, as awesome as it is.

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FS: One-of-a-kind Mercedes “Benzamino” http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/03/fs-one-of-a-kind-mercedes-benzamino/ http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/03/fs-one-of-a-kind-mercedes-benzamino/#comments Sat, 31 Mar 2012 13:00:20 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=437165 While attending a preview drive in Charleston, SC, I spied a most unique vehicle parked near a major thoroughfare: a pickup based on a W124 Mercedes-Benz wagon. Some people still regard the W124 as the best all-around car the company ever made. A quick Internet search will find a few other “Benzaminos,” but this could […]

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While attending a preview drive in Charleston, SC, I spied a most unique vehicle parked near a major thoroughfare: a pickup based on a W124 Mercedes-Benz wagon.

Some people still regard the W124 as the best all-around car the company ever made. A quick Internet search will find a few other “Benzaminos,” but this could be the only one based on the W124. Also unlike the others, the intent with this conversion–performed by an independent repair shop that specializes in Mercedes–appears to have been to make the end result look as close to “factory” as possible. No badge on the tailgate, so the powertrain is unclear. If it were a diesel, though, the ad would probably mention this.

A final difference: this one’s currently for sale. $17,000 or best offer takes it.

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Mid-Engined Brown Car For Sale: $1,100 OBO http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/01/mid-engined-brown-car-for-sale-1100-obo/ http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/01/mid-engined-brown-car-for-sale-1100-obo/#comments Mon, 30 Jan 2012 15:23:07 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=428604 One of the neighborhood characters growing up was “Toyota Van Man”, a middle-aged gentleman who drove a denim blue Toyota van. We never knew much about him, but assumed based on his vehicle choice that he was some kind of pederast. More likely, he was a hard working immigrant from Vietnam who lived on top […]

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One of the neighborhood characters growing up was “Toyota Van Man”, a middle-aged gentleman who drove a denim blue Toyota van. We never knew much about him, but assumed based on his vehicle choice that he was some kind of pederast. More likely, he was a hard working immigrant from Vietnam who lived on top of our local pizza joint and we were a group of overprivileged adolescent brats.

Over a decade has passed since my friends and I would shriek at the sight of “Toyota Van Man”, and these mid-engined oddities have all but disappeared from the roads. But Auto City, a Redwood City, California car dealer, has a Toyota Van for sale, with a mere 85,000 miles. Sporting a “Gold” on red color combo (come on, it’s brown), and a 5-speed manual transmission, this is an automobile that was born before customer clinics and brand management were a twinkle in the eye of an ex-Bausch & Lomb marketing wag. Bidding starts at $1,100. Hell, you could even submit an alternate album cover for the Black Keys with this thing.

Thanks to Bring A Trailer for today’s entertainment

 

 

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New or Used: Wagon + Stick = Trouble? http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/01/new-or-used-wagon-stick-trouble/ http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/01/new-or-used-wagon-stick-trouble/#comments Fri, 13 Jan 2012 13:32:43 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=425712   Aaron writes: Hi! I’ll try to be concise. I have a 2003 A4 manual sedan with 78K. I wanted a wagon but couldn’t find one and was in a hurry for wheels. Well, now I found one: 2003, manual, 107K. It’s at a dealer lot. Plus it’s got some desirable performance modifications, including exhaust. […]

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Aaron writes:

Hi! I’ll try to be concise.

I have a 2003 A4 manual sedan with 78K. I wanted a wagon but couldn’t find one and was in a hurry for wheels. Well, now I found one: 2003, manual, 107K. It’s at a dealer lot. Plus it’s got some desirable performance modifications, including exhaust.

The question: what will the dealer think of a trade? If my mechanic likes it i wouldn’t object to a straight trade, maybe even a (very) little cash from me if the timing belt is new. But are wagons with sticks and rumbly exhaust desirable? What’s it worth relative to mine? It seems like the similarity of the cars (same drivetrain, options, etc) should make this comparison location- and current market- independent.

I’m going to take the car for an inspection tomorrow, and offers may be made thereafter.

Steve Answers:

It depends on the condition and the history.

On the surface you would assume that a wagon with a stick would be a less desirable vehicle. But when it comes to a sporty oriented vehicle, there are plenty of buyers willing to row their own gears and go for the ‘unpopular’ body style.

Unfortunately for you Audi wagons aren’t popular. Just expensive.

When it comes to premium brands like Audi, I always look at condition first. Why? Because when it comes to picky buyers the condition is what sells it. I can convince a buyer to move from a station wagon to a sedan if that vehicle comes with something that most others do not.

Dealer records. A clean car with a perfect history. You may chuckle at all these dealer derived cliches, but the ease of sale and extra cash these models bring is very real in the retail marketplace.

Which brings me to the prior owner for this wagon. Do you know him yet? Do you plan on getting to know him? A thorough inspection will always uncover a few things. But the most important question to consider is, “Why did the guy get rid of his vehicle?”

I would strongly suggest that you try to get in touch with the prior owner and weigh it all in. Many dealers will tell you what you want to hear. But the prior owner can tell you what you need to know.

Good luck!

Sajeev answers:

Steve covered all the dealer angles of this, except for one: modified cars are death for resale and a nightmare on floorplan costs on a normal dealership.  This car is excellent fodder for a specialty tuner/hot rod shop, because they have an appreciation and the patience to wait for the right buyer. I am sure this car is awesome, it sounds like it’d certainly ring my bell. But I will play devil’s advocate for one reason: personal experience.

Even a Hot-Rod Lincoln fanatic like myself was a little put off when a supposedly “mint, granny driven” Lincoln Mark VIII at a local Hyundai lot actually had Flowmaster mufflers upon closer inspection.  Very few grannies want to hear the rumble of “flowbastards” in their ride, no matter how sweet it may sound on a 4-cam Ford V8. It seemed like a proper granny car that was bastardized by a second owner. My gut suggested I didn’t want to be the third owner of such a machine.  Which isn’t totally relevant to your situation, but there’s more.

The mufflers made the other minor flaws (interior trim abuse) a little more worrisome. The Mark VIII I wound up owning was truly stock, had a bona-fide service history (with recent repairs on typical fail points) but had cosmetic issues the flowmaster-Mark did not have…even then, I bought it. I modded it to my tastes and was much happier. And almost 10 years later, I have no regrets. Zero.

So when you combine these things:

  • Station Wagon
  • Old Audi, no warranty (i.e. this isn’t a cash cow like a CamCord, Tacoma, etc)
  • Stick shift
  • Modifications, including a “louder than stock” exhaust

You wind up with a vehicle that’s very hard to shift off a car lot. Odds are you are one of the few people interested in this vehicle.  But, if the car is as cool as you make it sound, the dealer might have you by the short hairs. That is, if you showed any interest in the modifications.

For your sake, I hope you frowned upon those modifications. I also hope the mods don’t imply that the car was abused: many a modified Audi is driven hard, making for a powertrain that’s frightfully expensive proposition to keep running. Clutches, axle shafts, transaxles, you name it! If you haven’t already, be a regular on the forums and get good with tools and service manuals.

My advice? Unless you are totally amazed by how it sits, get a stock one and modify it later.

 

Need help with a car buying conundrum? Email your particulars to sajeev@thetruthaboutcars.com , and let TTAC’s collective wisdom make the decision easier… or possibly much, much harder.

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