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		<title>New or Used: Being a Parent&#8230;to your Parent</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 16:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sajeev Mehta and Steve Lang</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#160; TTAC Commentator Jimal writes: Sajeev and Steve, I have one of those quandaries that most adults will go through sooner or later in life and I figured I would tap into you and the B&#38;B for suggestions. My father passed away recently after a long illness and I&#8217;m helping my mother with settling his [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2011/12/new-or-used-being-a-parent-to-your-parent/4835451442_f3e593d726/" rel="attachment wp-att-423913"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-423913" title="They did so much for you. " src="http://images.thetruthaboutcars.com/2011/12/4835451442_f3e593d726.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="262" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><em>TTAC Commentator Jimal</em> writes:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Sajeev and Steve,</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">I have one of those quandaries that most adults will go through sooner or later in life and I figured I would tap into you and the B&amp;B for suggestions. My father passed away recently after a long illness and I&#8217;m helping my mother with settling his estate; cleaning up finances, etc. Among the things my father left behind were his 2005 Buick LeSabre, which my mother hates, and her cherished 1996 4-door Chevy Blazer. <span id="more-423593"></span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">They bought the Blazer new and 14 years and 170k miles later it owes my mom nothing. The problem is it is a ticking time bomb. My mother realizes this and realizes that they don&#8217;t quite make SUVs like that Blazer anymore. Our (my) plan is to sell the Blazer on the front lawn and either trade in the Buick or put it on the lawn for some down payment money for something.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">My first question is what CUV built today would be the best replacement for my mother&#8217;s beloved Blazer? Because my father was a GM retiree, my mother is eligible for the GM Family First discount and the Chevy Equinox is high on my list, although depending on how much the bankruptcy screwed my mother (my dad was salaried and not protected during the C11 like the UAW members were) we may or may not want to support the General going forward. I&#8217;ve also looked at the Tiguan, the Journey and the Flex. She prefers American nameplates; the VW is my idea. I don&#8217;t know that anything Asian will fly, otherwise a CX-7 would be on the short list.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">My second question is about the wisdom of leasing in this particular situation. My mother takes care of her vehicles (hello? 170k Blazer) and she&#8217;s not going to be driving long distances. To me the advantages of having a new vehicle before the old one is out of warranty outweigh the equity issues. I&#8217;m finding the lease to be a hard sell for my mother because my father had a bad experience with it on the Olds Achieva the Blazer replaced.</p>
<p><em>Steve</em> Answers:</p>
<p>Older folks usually prefer to buy a familiar product. The less they care about the product, the more this usually rings true.</p>
<p>My mom is a prime example. She has owned a Camry for 10 years and now wants a new vehicle. My brother said &#8216;Let&#8217;s have her go see some Volvos.&#8217; Well, she didn&#8217;t like any of them.</p>
<p>Then I said, &#8220;Well, maybe she would be happier in a Toyota Matrix. The seats a bit higher so that will help her with getting in and out of the vehicle. Plus it&#8217;s an easier car to drive.&#8221; My mom tried the Matrix and hated it too.</p>
<p>Finally, my mom drives the new Camry. She loves it. Why? Because everything is already familiar to her. Plus it now has a rear camera, navigation, and 10 airbags. She likes all of those things. To be frank though, she would still buy the new Camry even if it was still the exact same vehicle she drives now.</p>
<p>Go buy her an Equinox. Sell the other two vehicles for cash and use the family discount to get her a vehicle she can enjoy for the long haul.</p>
<p><em>Sajeev</em> Answers:</p>
<p>The short answer is to stick with American or Japanese nameplates for a long term owner like your Mom. Buying a VW for this length of time is not worth it, unless you want to be one of the unwitting souls who tells the world the latest crop German vehicles have finally overcome a decade of being a below average value proposition! I wouldn’t want to be the person holding their breath for that.</p>
<p>German cars are for leasing only&#8230;and I don’t see your mother wanting or needing that. Buy, don’t lease. Buy American, it’s important to her. The Equinox, Traverse, Flex and Edge are great. Supposedly the new Journey is good value and a quality design, I haven&#8217;t driven it yet to know for sure. You need some quality time with Mom doing the Test Drive thing, make it a fun outing with a nice lunch too.</p>
<p>Like Steve said, this is a GM family and she likes GM products. Nothing wrong with that. Honestly I would put her in a Buick Enclave: the size is a bit much, but the luxury and style might be a great choice. There’s nothing wrong with treating yourself to something nice in circumstances like these. And how often do we get to say that around here?</p>
<p>Seriously, tell her she&#8217;s worth a Buick Enclave. As long as she likes sitting in it, enjoys the road test, etc. make it happen for her.</p>
<p>EDIT: on second thought, why not a new Caddy SRX? It&#8217;s smaller than the Enclave (which could be a good thing for her), and it&#8217;s a friggin Caddy.  Get her an SRX!</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><em>Need help with a car buying conundrum? Email your particulars to sajeev@thetruthaboutcars.com , and let TTAC’s collective wisdom make the decision easier… or possibly much, much harder.</em></p>
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		<title>New or Used: Anything for Another Irish Car Bomb?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sajeev Mehta and Steve Lang</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael writes: Towards the end of the year, we may be in the market for a minivan (Honda Odyssey&#8230; this is not the advice I&#8217;m looking for, but feel free to weigh in). We have two cars we own outright: 2004 Toyota 4Runner and a 2006 VW Passat with 75K and 65K miles on them, [...]]]></description>
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<p><em>Michael </em>writes:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Towards the end of the year, we may be in the market for a minivan  (Honda Odyssey&#8230; this is not the advice I&#8217;m looking for, but feel free  to weigh in). We have two cars we own outright: 2004 Toyota 4Runner and a  2006 VW Passat with 75K and 65K miles on them, respectively.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Both are in good working order, no issues other than the sign of age. Both have V6 engines.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Question:  which one to trade in? I figure they are both worth about $10k trade in  based on KBB, with the VW potentially worth marginally more (I could be  wrong there). I&#8217;m leaning towards trading in the VW since it will  depreciate faster and is more likely to have issues as it continues to  age and wear.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">What are your thoughts (now being greedy)&#8230;on both the trade-in AND the minivan choice?</p>
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<p><strong>Steve Answers:</strong></p>
<p>Neither. Unless you are having another child and your current rides won&#8217;t accommodate another car seat.</p>
<p>If you enjoy what you have then keep what you got. It&#8217;s that simple. The Passat is definitely the less reliable of the two if you look at all the data and reviews out there. But who knows? You may have one of the good ones! In which case you better change the middle names of one of your children to Tiguan for good luck!</p>
<p>It sounds like you have two solutions in search of a problem with your current rides. But if you must have a 10k minivan&#8230; I would skip that Odyssey. It is the most hysterically overpriced family vehicle on the planet. If you&#8217;re spending $10k on a family ride I would look more towards a Mazda 5 if you want a &#8216;family vehicle&#8217; with a bit more sport.</p>
<p>If the minivan has to be full-sized then I would go completely against the TTAC grain and buy whatever hasn&#8217;t been knocked too hard by actual owners from Carsurvey, Edmunds, Consumer Reports and TrueDelta. I despise Sedonas. Others hate Freestars. Quite a few folks will turn their noses at Quests, Caravans and the GM brood. In truth minivans were mostly cheap and interchangeable during the 06 thru 08 period. Even the cheap ones will last to 200k.</p>
<p>Siennas and Odysseys were premium offerings for their time. But they had mixed reliability and are poor values in the used car market. My number one? An end of the model run 2007 Grand Caravan with a great owner and very low mileage. Think Florida retiree vehicle. You will spend far less than 8k on one and be all the better for it.</p>
<p><strong>Sajeev Answers:</strong></p>
<p>Disclosure time: Michael is a friend, former manager and 100% straight shooter. While I have no (current) need to suck up to him, I must admit he&#8217;s rather awesome.  Plus he nailed his own query, which must count for something!</p>
<p>The Passat is the trade-in for obvious reasons: even if your initial VW dealership gripes originally mentioned (as co-workers) went away, it&#8217;ll never be the value proposition of a 4Runner. And the Odyssey is a perfect new vehicle for the family.  Not that the Odyssey is a perfect minivan, it&#8217;s rather expensive. And both the transmission and displacement-on-demand engine left many folks (including <a href="http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2008/12/capsule-review-honda-odyssey/">TTAC&#8217;s Robert Farago</a>) upset at the service department.  The former shouldn&#8217;t be an issue, and let&#8217;s keep our fingers crossed on the latter.</p>
<p>Because I don&#8217;t see you liking the alternatives from Nissan, Toyota and Chrysler. Maybe a stylish Buick Enclave or Ford Flex Titanium is worth a look. Maybe not.  Tough call.  Too bad every decision isn&#8217;t as simple and awesome as the time you introduced me to the Irish Car Bomb.</p>
<p>I could certainly use another one after all this Minivan talk!</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><em>Need help with a car buying conundrum? Email your particulars to sajeev@thetruthaboutcars.com , and let TTAC’s collective wisdom make the decision easier… or possibly much, much harder.</em></p>
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		<title>GM Throws Another Lambda On The Fire: Cadillac Confirms 7-Seat Crossover</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 15:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Edward Niedermeyer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[No details yet, just an Inside Line confirmation from GM&#8217;s Karl Stracke that a seven-seat, Lambda-platform crossover &#8220;is absolutely a go.&#8221; It has long been rumored that the Cadillac Escalade would be replaced by a Lambda-platform crossover. The Cadillac crossover will join the Buick Enclave, Chevrolet Traverse, and GMC Acadia, as the Lambda becomes the [...]]]></description>
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No details yet, just an <a href="http://blogs.insideline.com/straightline/2010/05/cadillac-still-going-to-get-lambda-based-crossover.html">Inside Line</a> confirmation from GM&#8217;s Karl Stracke that a seven-seat, Lambda-platform crossover &#8220;is absolutely a go.&#8221; It has <a href="http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/motor-trend-pimps-the-caddy-future/">long been rumored</a> that the Cadillac Escalade would be replaced by a Lambda-platform crossover. The Cadillac crossover will join the Buick Enclave, Chevrolet Traverse, and GMC Acadia, as the Lambda becomes the only platform shared by all four of the General&#8217;s &#8220;core&#8221; brands (and previously, the Saturn Outlook as well).</p>
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		<title>New Buick-GMC Chief Reveals Acadia Denali</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Edward Niedermeyer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[GM announced today that Buick-GMC sales manager Brian Sweeney has been promoted to the top spot at Buick-GMC after his predecessor Michael Richards left the position after nine days on the job. According to the Detroit News, Sweeney began his GM career at GMC in 1990 and has served as vice president of sales at [...]]]></description>
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<p>GM announced today that Buick-GMC sales manager Brian Sweeney has been promoted to the top spot at Buick-GMC after his predecessor Michael Richards left the position after nine days on the job. According to the <a href="http://detnews.com/article/20091217/AUTO01/912170446/1148/GM-appoints-Sweeney-head-of-brands">Detroit News</a>, Sweeney began his GM career at GMC in 1990 and has served as vice president of sales at Saab Cars USA and sales manager of GM&#8217;s north-central region.</p>
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<p>Sweeney&#8217;s appointment was announced just in time for him to unveil GMC&#8217;s latest attempt at upscale profit-squeezing: the Acadia Denali. Pricing has not been released, but according to <a href="http://www.detnews.com/article/20091217/AUTO01/912170453/1361/GM-spiffs-up-Acadia-with-Denali-edition">DetN</a>, the Denali version gets</p>
<blockquote><p>20-inch wheels, dual-chrome exhaust, body-colored fascia, wood-trim steering wheel and honeycomb grill.</p></blockquote>
<p>Any guesses as to how much they&#8217;ll charge for these sweet nothings? Top-spec, non-Denali Acadias currently start at about $43,000 before incentives, almost exactly the same as a top-spec Buick Enclave. Loading either model with all options carries either to just over $51,000. Presumably the Denali model also has even more chrome on the window surrounds than other versions, adding to its upscale image and inflated price. But when will Buick get a luxury sub-brand?</p>
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