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It’s no fun knocking Tesla. Having spent my most formative years growing up just South of the Silicon Valley, and as a lifelong resident of the West Coast of the United States, Tesla’s the closest thing I’ve got to a home team in the auto industry. In fact, as I write this,  a Tesla-branded coffee mug, sits due East of my keyboard, a thoughtful housewarming gift from a kind family friend. This unexpected gift, and the frisson around Tesla’s newly-public stock price prove that there’s a lot of excitement around the California upstart. Unfortunately, Tesla is but a small, inexperienced fish swimming in the global shark tank of the auto industry. Now, one of the big sharks, Volkswagen, is beginning to circle for the kill.

In May, Audi’s Rupert Stadler declared to the preeminent German car magazine Auto Motor und Sport that “Our goal is the complete victory.” Buoyed by strong sales momentum in China and elsewhere, Audi has been mouthing off about its ambitions for some time now. But Stadler spent as much time talking about electric cars as he did growth in the US and China, talking up VW’s relationship with BYD and Sanyo, and promising electric city cars. Only the Stadler’s bombastic headline hinted that Audi’s gain might come at Tesla’s expense, as well as Mercedes’ and BMW’s.

But in June’s AM und S, Audi once again stole the headlines, proclaiming production plans for an electric version of its mid-engine R4, itself based on VW’s BlueSport Concept. At six seconds to 60 mph, it would be considerably slower than the Tesla, but its 250 km range would be similar. And considering that gas and diesel VW and Audi (and possibly Porsche and Seat) versions could start under $25k, it seems fair to say that Audi will be able to price EV versions south of the Tesla Roadster’s $101k base price. That, along with the $120k-ish R8 E-tron are the two jaws of Audi’s Tesla-munching jaws.

And then there’s one of the biggest challenges for Tesla: sales and service. Audi has plenty of dealerships and service employees… Tesla has boutiques in several jet-set shopping districts. Where would you buy an electric sportscar? Besides, if you don’t want a silly “e-tron” but you like the car, they’ll probably sell you a 335 hp five-cylinder turbo version for less money. And then talk you into an electric A2 for guilt-free commuting. Or talk you up to a crazed R8-based E-tron sportscar, which will start $10k-$20k higher than the Tesla.

The R8 E-tron is supposed to be available in 2012, when Tesla’s Model S is planned for launch. The R4 E-tron is scheduled for launch one year later, alongside the A2 EV city car. Tesla had planned on ending Roadster production in 2012, but has backed away from any end date for the Roadster allowing it to drive on into this EV sportscar pincer attack. And if Audi is going to attack Tesla’s Roadster from above and below, you know more Germans won’t be far behind. Sure enough, Mercedes has already announced a super-expensive EV version of its SLS AMG, likely heralding more EV sportscars to come. Given the behind-the-scenes politics at Volkswagen, Porsche will probably launch a BlueSport-based EV sometime around the same time as the R4 E-tron as well, if only to keep the upper management feuding.

Which leaves Tesla’s Model S to carry the firm until and unless a joint vehicle with Toyota materializes. And the Model S won’t even be the first luxury four-door EV on the market… unless the Fisker Karma misses another production deadline. The less-affluent (though not much less) early-adopters will already be happily buzzing around in their Leafs, Volts and EV Focii by then, unmoved by the inevitable lease offers tempting them to stretch for a Tesla. And after that, there’s not much market for high-end EVs. Every argument that Tesla might make about the unique abilities of its EV “sports sedan” is countered by the fact that the estimated range for a base price $50k Model S is 160 miles. Plus the Fisker looks better.

I’ve long thought that Tesla could have stayed focused and carved out a unique niche as the 21st Century’s first EV sportcar specialist marque, riding AC Propulsion’s good idea to the status of a new Porsche if they were lucky. Not content with such a marvelous goal, Tesla has now officially lost its chance to establish its brand with (say) a GT and supercar, by letting Audi steal the EV sportscar momentum. And for what? In order to sell twice as many cars at half the price every time it comes out with a new product? To leverage one revolutionary but hardly mass-assembled sportscar into a global business to challenge the OEMs?

Audi gets it. Stadler tells AM und S that “the E-tron label will become as important to us as the Quattro label was to us 30 years ago.” This is exactly the kind of lesson of history that tend to escape start-ups. Audi has had its boots dirty building one of the most successful luxury brands over the past 30 years, and that institutional experience is worth every bit as much as the brand itself.

With its stock public, and its hopes attached to a 2012 EV sports sedan and a tenuous relationship with Toyota, Tesla is shooting the moon. If it doesn’t sell 20,000 Model S sedans by 2013 (for roughly $1b in revenue), Tesla will be toast. After two years of likely losses, Tesla’s stock will be battered down from its frothy precipice by the time the Model S arrives. Which will also be about the time Audi’s two electric E-trons start sinking their teeth into the remains of Tesla’s sportscar business. Sure, the Model S could be a stunning success, but even if it is, Audi will already have small premium EVs ready to go by the time it launches, meaning Tesla has nowhere to run downmarket (where the Leaf, Volt and Focus will already be established).

As much as EVs and California seem to go hand-in-hand, the Golden State’s homegrown hero does not have a happy road ahead of it. Along the way the brand will almost certainly prove a point that the auto industry seems to have to prove at least several times in every generation: ambition doesn’t change the world, focus does.

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Audi To Unveil A1 e-tron Concept With Wankel Range Extender http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2010/03/audi-to-unveil-a1-e-tron-concept-with-wankel-range-extender/ http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2010/03/audi-to-unveil-a1-e-tron-concept-with-wankel-range-extender/#comments Mon, 01 Mar 2010 23:49:01 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=347112 The Wankel rotary engine returns to its native land at last. Since the NSU Ro 80 went out of production in 1977, Mazda has been the keeper of the flame. But Audi has announced that it will show an A1 e-tron concept at the Geneva show this week, and the pug-in will feature a single-rotor […]

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The Wankel rotary engine returns to its native land at last. Since the NSU Ro 80 went out of production in 1977, Mazda has been the keeper of the flame. But Audi has announced that it will show an A1 e-tron concept at the Geneva show this week, and the pug-in will feature a single-rotor Wankel range extender (gen set). Rotaries and micro-turbines have often been suggested as the ultimate range extenders due to their compact size and low weight.

The “e-tron” will become a moniker for all electrified Audis, promises Audi chief Rupert Stalder to the German magazine Focus, “just like Quattro has become synonymous for four-wheel drive.”

Audi is claiming a 31 mile range in EV mode, before the rotary begins to spin juice. Rotaries are generally less efficient than piston engines, but the trade-off for weight and power density may make it worthwhile. According to Green Car Congress,  the A1 e-tron will only have an additional 124 miles running on its single rotor Wankel range extender.  Must be a mighty small fuel tank, or is the rotary really that thirsty?

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Audi e-tron 2: Once More, With Feeling http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2010/01/audi-e-tron-2-once-more-with-feeling/ http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2010/01/audi-e-tron-2-once-more-with-feeling/#comments Wed, 13 Jan 2010 19:06:20 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=341682 After backing away from the ridiculous torque figures it gave with its R8-based e-tron, Audi is having another crack at the electric sportscar theme with a second e-tron concept at the NAIAS. Of course by not giving it a new name, Audi created the impression that this might be a very similar concept to the […]

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The shape of things to come...

After backing away from the ridiculous torque figures it gave with its R8-based e-tron, Audi is having another crack at the electric sportscar theme with a second e-tron concept at the NAIAS. Of course by not giving it a new name, Audi created the impression that this might be a very similar concept to the R8-based model it says its going to build at some point. The e-tron mk II is, however, a very different beast. Where as the first e-tron was an electrification and restyling of the R8, the e-tron 2 actually previews the look of an eventual R4 sportscar, based on Volkswagen’s Blue Sport concept. If Audi eventually sells an EV version of that vehicle (and they say the e-tron name will become a brand for Audi EVs) and it’s materially the same as this concept, it would be the first RWD production Audi since… well, why don’t we have some guesses?

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LA Auto Show: Audi E-Tron http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009/12/la-auto-show-audi-e-tron/ http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009/12/la-auto-show-audi-e-tron/#comments Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:47:30 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=337968 We all hoped/thought that Tron was a relic left to the distant 80’s acid trips, but Audi has decided to bring it back again. Shown at the Frankfurt motor show their e-tron concept looks strangely close to production to me. Supposedly debuting two years from now as a 2012 production model buyers willing to fork […]

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Not red or blue?

We all hoped/thought that Tron was a relic left to the distant 80’s acid trips, but Audi has decided to bring it back again. Shown at the Frankfurt motor show their e-tron concept looks strangely close to production to me. Supposedly debuting two years from now as a 2012 production model buyers willing to fork out huge sums of cash will be treated to more than 3,300 ft-lbs of torque and 313hp, for no doubt very limited distances between charges.

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