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Fans of the W123 Mercedes better book the next flight to Marrakech. If the Moroccan government has its way, the country’s ubiquitous fleet of W123 taxi cabs will be scrapped, in favor of Renault and Dacia minivans.

Around 55,000 W123 taxis (the vast majority 240D models) are set to be targeted under the program, with Morocco’s Interior Ministry citing safety and environmental concerns. Instead, drivers will be pushed towards two models – the Renault Trafic, which is a large commercial van, and the locally-made Dacia Lodgy compact minivan.

According to Ran When Parked

The government will pay around 50,000 Dirhams (roughly $6,100 / €4,400 / £3,600) per w123 and Renault – Dacia will provide up to 10,000 Dirhams (approximately $2,700 / €2,000 / £1,600) towards the purchase of a new car or van.

A brand new Lodgy costs about $18,000 USD, while a Trafic retails for about $27,000 USD. The subsidies would drastically reduce the price of a new Lodgy, which would also have the benefit of supporting a locally made vehicle. Both the Trafic and Lodgy will provide a safer alternative to the standard practice of shoving 7 passengers in a five-seater vehicle (that is now 30 years old, at minimum), while also offering much cleaner diesel engines.

(Correction: the currency rates cited are incorrect. 10,000 Dirhams works out to about $1,277 USD. Thanks to reader minivanman for the tip-DK)

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Great News Everyone! Dacia Sandero To Cost £5,995 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/10/great-news-everyone-dacia-sandero-to-cost-5995/ http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/10/great-news-everyone-dacia-sandero-to-cost-5995/#comments Tue, 16 Oct 2012 19:05:08 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=463852 Great news everyone! The Dacia Sandero will apparently cost £5,995, or about $9,600 in its cheapest trim level, when it goes on sale in the UK tomorrow. Full pricing and specs will be released Wednesday, but with the Duster SUV retailing for £8,995 (just under $15,000), the smaller, less prestigious Sandero could conceivably occupy the rock-bottom price point. […]

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Great news everyone! The Dacia Sandero will apparently cost £5,995, or about $9,600 in its cheapest trim level, when it goes on sale in the UK tomorrow.

Full pricing and specs will be released Wednesday, but with the Duster SUV retailing for £8,995 (just under $15,000), the smaller, less prestigious Sandero could conceivably occupy the rock-bottom price point. The Telegraph, claims that the cheap sticker is accompanied by improved interior materials and lots of borrowed switch gear. It would be easy to make jokes about how French quality is an improvement from Romanian quality, but our own Marcello de Vasconcellos drives a Brazilian-spec Logan (the sedan version) and assures us that it’s muito bem inside and out.

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Never Mind The McLaren: Why The Dacia Sandero Is The Star Of The Paris Motor Show http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/09/never-mind-the-mclaren-why-the-dacia-sandero-is-the-star-of-the-paris-motor-show/ http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/09/never-mind-the-mclaren-why-the-dacia-sandero-is-the-star-of-the-paris-motor-show/#comments Thu, 27 Sep 2012 12:30:45 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=461764 The Paris Auto Show is about to kick off tomorrow, and some of the product set to debut has me cursing myself for not maxing out my Visa on a flight and a room at the lovely hotel that’s walking distance from the Porte de Versailles, where the pretty girl with crooked teeth sits patiently […]

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The Paris Auto Show is about to kick off tomorrow, and some of the product set to debut has me cursing myself for not maxing out my Visa on a flight and a room at the lovely hotel that’s walking distance from the Porte de Versailles, where the pretty girl with crooked teeth sits patiently at the front desk. And how could I forget the wizened gran-mere hovering over the table at breakfast, replenishing your plate with cheeses and baked goods that one could never hope to find at Publix?

Alas, I am not part of the A-List club that gets driven from the Georges V to the Expo Hall in an S-Class, and so rather than sucking down a Gauloises or getting a glimpse of Carla Bruni (I was blessed with such a privilege in 2010) I’m stuck in North America, having to use my brain rather than just repeating back what my PR minders told me over a glass of Cotes-de-Rhone

The same people who are attending the show on the Sponsored Content plan will no doubt be running beautifully shot feature articles on the Jaguar F-Type, the McLaren whateveritscalled and the new Range Rover. I wish I was there to see them all, but I’d probably give them a once over at the show and then wait another 6 months for them to crop up in Forest Hill Village on a Sunday morning.

What I’m really interested in is the low end flotsam that we won’t ever get.Car makers can be put in one of three categories nowadays; low-cost, volume and premium. In Europe, volume car makers are getting pulverized by the godawful economic conditions on the continent. If you’ve read TTAC for longer than a week, you have seen at least one story about this. It’s arguably been the overarching narrative of 2012, and nobody is getting hit harder than European car makers. Peugeot Citroen is closing plants in France, Ford is hemorrhaging money, Opel is shrugging off the hand of the grim reaper.

Premium cars, buoyed by markets outside of Europe, are doing better, but even Mercedes-Benz is predicting falling profits and cutting costs to the tune of 1 billion euro in 2012. The shining star in Europe is the low-cost car, and to me, the Dacia Sandero is the most compelling car at the Paris Auto Show. Aside from its 15 minutes of fame on Top Gear, the Sandero’s story is so complex and politically loaded that even if the car was an irredeemable piece of garbage, it would still be fascinating.

Dacia was bought by Renault in 1999, and in 2004, the Logan was launched as a low-cost world car. Since then, roughly 1.8 million units have been sold, as buyers in emerging markets flocked to the Renault-engineered car that sold at Lada pricepoints. Later on, Dacia has launched the Lodgy minivan and Duster SUV, which have been critical and marketplace successes, with sales up 16 percent this year in an absolutely dreadful European market. In fact, Dacia has been so successful, that they’ve even been accused of cannibalizing sales of their big brother, Renault.

As if that weren’t pouring salt into the wounds of an ailing domestic car industry, Dacia products are now being built in the former colony of Morocco, where workers are paid 13 percent of what a French Renault worker makes.The Moroccan plant is said to be capable of exporting 85 percent of ts 400,000 unit annual capacity, and most of those will end up in Europe. In a country where immigrants from the Maghreb still struggle with their role in French society, this is, to put it mildly, a controversial issue.

Trade unionists and newspaper columnists have cried foul about the low wages and the outsourcing of jobs that have led to the erosion of the French middle class lifestyle. The outsourcing of low-cost vehcle production has led to the demise of good jobs – but the very people who hold them are unwilling or unable to buy a new mainstream car as it is. They want the low-cost Dacia, the one that could never be sold so cheap as long as they are built by workers making 1,800 euro a month and taking 5 weeks paid vacation. The whole situation is an interesting allegory for the decline of the state-subsidized “la belle vie” that has been enjoyed in Post-WWII France.

All that for one little hatchback that is slow, boring looking and will sell for under $10,000. Isn’t that more interesting than an 800 horsepower McLaren? I think so.

 

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Dacia’s Up, ‘Nault’s Down As Low-Cost Romanian Vehicles Cannibalize Their French Overlords http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/07/dacias-up-naults-down-as-low-cost-romanian-vehicles-cannibalize-their-french-overlords/ http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/07/dacias-up-naults-down-as-low-cost-romanian-vehicles-cannibalize-their-french-overlords/#comments Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:06:30 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=453083 The big winner for Renault in the first half of 2012 was their low-cost Dacia brand, while the losers were…everyone else. Just-Auto lists the sales breakdown below “Renault sold 182,700 light commercial vehicles, up 0.4%. Renault brand sales fell 2.4% to 1,113,913. Dacia was up 2.5% to 181,280. Sales at Renault Samsung Motors brand plunged […]

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The big winner for Renault in the first half of 2012 was their low-cost Dacia brand, while the losers were…everyone else.

Just-Auto lists the sales breakdown below

Renault sold 182,700 light commercial vehicles, up 0.4%.

Renault brand sales fell 2.4% to 1,113,913.

Dacia was up 2.5% to 181,280.

Sales at Renault Samsung Motors brand plunged 41.2% to 33,244.

The growth of Dacia paints a bleak picture for the French domestic auto industry. Consumers all over the world are jumping at the chance to own one of these well-built, well-priced pseudo-Renaults, whether they’re in India or England. French pundits don’t like it one bit, and are worried that their own auto industry will be decimated by the rise of the Romanian lineup.

And they should be. The Dacias are the right car (cheap, stylish, well-made) at the right time (an eyelash away from total economic meltdown in Europe). If a car purchase is even on your radar right now, would you pay full price for a Renault Scenic, or get an almost-as-good Dacia Lodgy? The middle, where Renault competes, is DOA right now and for as long as Europe’s economy is FUBAR.

But Dacia cars can only stay cheap as long as they’re built outside of France, or other countries that pay enough to sustain a middle class lifestyle. That means that jobs are going back to the former French colonies in Africa. Morocco and Algeria might end up being Renault’s hot new manufacturing base. But nobody thought the Indians would own Jaguar Land Rover in the time of the Raj, did they?

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Renault To Build Plant In Algeria http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/06/renault-to-build-plant-in-algeria/ http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/06/renault-to-build-plant-in-algeria/#comments Fri, 22 Jun 2012 16:59:22 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=449899 African car plants are nothing new, but vehicle exports from the continent are the exception, rather than the rule. Renault, which already has a presence in Morocco, is looking to expand into Algeria. Renault’s Tangiers factory builds cars like the Dacia Lodgy, and can crank out up to 400,000 vehicles annually. Building cars in Morocco […]

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African car plants are nothing new, but vehicle exports from the continent are the exception, rather than the rule. Renault, which already has a presence in Morocco, is looking to expand into Algeria.

Renault’s Tangiers factory builds cars like the Dacia Lodgy, and can crank out up to 400,000 vehicles annually. Building cars in Morocco is significantly cheaper than building them in France, or Dacia’s homeland, Romania. Workers are paid 250 euros a month on Morocco, 450 a month in Romania and 1,800 per month in France. Keeping these costs down is of the reasons than high-quality “low cost” cars can be sold in Europe and world markets, but French unions are less than pleased.

The Algerian plant is still in flux, and there’s no word on whether Renauts or Dacias will be built there, and if they’ll even be exported to Europe. The Moroccan-built Dacias are getting their share of praise from the buff books, and with the way things are going in Europe, cheaper cars are going to be much more appealing to those who can even afford a new car. Renault is planning on axing a significant portion of their lineup in the UK, and using Dacia cars to fill the holes.

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“Fabrique Au Maroc” Renault/Dacia Cars Draws Controversy In France http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/02/fabrique-au-maroc-renaultdacia-cars-draws-controversy-in-france/ http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/02/fabrique-au-maroc-renaultdacia-cars-draws-controversy-in-france/#comments Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:01:58 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=430451 Renault’s establishment of a factory in France’s former colony of Morocco has drawn ire from union officials and industry in the sort of election year politicking that wouldn’t be unknown to Americans. The language and culture may be different, but the theme remains the same; good jobs in the manufacturing sector are leaving the country, […]

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Renault’s establishment of a factory in France’s former colony of Morocco has drawn ire from union officials and industry in the sort of election year politicking that wouldn’t be unknown to Americans. The language and culture may be different, but the theme remains the same; good jobs in the manufacturing sector are leaving the country, and they aren’t coming back.

Renault’s Dacia brand is having a good run in world markets, and achieved a bit of notoriety when Top Gear’s James May professed his undying love for the Dacia Sandero compact hatchback. Renault has even gone as far as killing off half of their UK lineup, replacing the missing vehicles with Dacia cars instead.

A factory in Tangiers, Morocco was established to help build the new 7-seater Dacia Lodgy minivan, which will cost half as much as its Renault equivalent, the Scenic. The plant will also build a replacement for the Logan, and will be able to produce as much as 400,000 cars annually. Renault CEO Carlos Ghosn denied that the Lodgy would cannibalize sales of the Scenic, but the plant’s announcement seems to have struck a nerve in France.

Dacia’s are currently built in Romania, an EU member state, where workers earn 450 euro per month. While a French worker in a Renault factory earns about 1,800 euro, employees at the Moroccan plant will only take home ,250 per month. One columnist in French paper Le Dauphiné Libéré noted that Moroccan workers won’t even be able to buy the cars they produce with that wage. But the Tangiers plant is right near a major port, and Morocco, a relatively poor country will benefit from the 6,000 jobs added by the plant alone.

Meanwhile, Europe is in the throes of an economic crisis with the potential to destabilize the entire continent – and France, along with Germany, are doing the most to bring the EU out of its tailspin. France is in an election year, with Socialist leader Francois Hollande making headway against current leader Nicolas Sarkozy. Not surprisingly, union leaders are giving the government (a 15 percent stakeholder in Renault) some merde royale. “We see this factory as a dangerous development,” said Fabien Gache, head of French labor union CGT. “These vehicles are basically…[Dacia branded] Scenics and Kangoos,” Gache said. “They’re bound to hit the Renault brand’s market share.” Even a former cabinet minister for Sarkozy has accused Renault of “social dumping in Morocco“.

Renault is estimated to produce 30 percent of its vehicles in its home market of France. Working in a Renault factory and taking advantage of the French welfare state’s generous benefits used to be a ticket to a solid middle class life in France, but the rise of “l’hexagone” (Dacia) in favor of “le diamant” (Renault) represents a symbolic threat to a former way of life that came to be seen as a birthright in not just France but much of Europe. Ghosn went as far as to say that he never even dreamed of building a Dacia factory in Western Europe, as it would be incompatible with the idea of a “low-cost” vehicle. The Dacia Duster is a major success in France, but it could never be built with workers earning 1,800 euro a month and taking 5 weeks paid vacation. Dacia’s market share has risen as Renault’s has fallen – and why wouldn’t it when the economy is in a toilet, and one can buy a Renault-engineered vehicle for half price compared to the “brand name” version?

 

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Dacia Lodgy Emerges, UK Sales Questionable http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/01/dacia-lodgy-emerges-uk-sales-questionable/ http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/01/dacia-lodgy-emerges-uk-sales-questionable/#comments Thu, 05 Jan 2012 20:24:21 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=424558 Dacia showed off their Lodgy MPV today, giving more fodder for Dacia fans who became aware of the brand via their slavish devotion to Top Gear. The Lodgy is a small minivan available in 5 or 7 seat configuration and sold under a Romanian auto brand certain to go on sale in the rest of […]

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Dacia showed off their Lodgy MPV today, giving more fodder for Dacia fans who became aware of the brand via their slavish devotion to Top Gear. The Lodgy is a small minivan available in 5 or 7 seat configuration and sold under a Romanian auto brand certain to go on sale in the rest of Europe, but maybe not in the UK.

Buried within the Dacia press release is a vague statement about UK sales. According to Dacia a”…decision on commercialisation of Lodgy in right-hand drive for the UK market is still to be finalised.” Dacia, as you’ll remember, is owned by Renault, which just heavily consolidated (or purged, in the parlance of Ceaucescu-era Romania) their UK lineup amid drastically falling sales.

While the famed Renaultsport hot hatches were untouched, practically everything else was given the ax in the UK, along with a 33 percent of their dealers. Renault is hoping to move upmarket, leaving Dacia to sell the cheap stuff (while their big Laguna range will be replaced with crossovers) the Scenic MPV, which also offers 5 and 7 passenger seating. Renault is likely evaluating whether there’s a business case to be made for the Lodgy, or if the car will cannibalize sales of the Scenic. One thing is certain; we won’t be the first to make “Dodgy Lodgy” jokes or puns.

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