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		<title>Review: 2012 Honda CR-V EX-L</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 20:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brendan McAleer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[“Hey Brendan,” runs the e-mail from our illustrious ed., Ed, “I was wondering if you wanted to take on the most challenging story I&#8217;m currently facing: making the new Honda CR-V interesting.” Fat chance. “Don&#8217;t get taken in by the free bacon!” Wait, what now? Free bacon? I&#8217;M THERE. Next thing you know, I&#8217;m ensconced [...]]]></description>
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<p>“Hey Brendan,” runs the e-mail from our illustrious ed., Ed, “I was wondering if you wanted to take on the most challenging story I&#8217;m currently facing: making the new Honda CR-V interesting.”</p>
<p>Fat chance.</p>
<p>“Don&#8217;t get taken in by the free bacon!”</p>
<p>Wait, what now? Free bacon? I&#8217;M THERE.</p>
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<p>Next thing you know, I&#8217;m ensconced in the driver&#8217;s seat of Honda&#8217;s latest <del>mild tweak</del> total redesign, the 2012 Honda CR-V, rolling through the bleached-out stubble of the South Cali countryside, mentally projecting the headlines from our beloved colleagues, co-bloggists and fellow car-writey-types.</p>
<p>“The New CR-V: Has Honda Lost Its Mojo?”</p>
<p>“2012 CR-V: Honda&#8217;s Mojo, Has It Been Lost?”</p>
<p>“Totally Redesigned 2012 CR-V Casts Doubt on Whereabouts of Honda&#8217;s Mojo.”</p>
<p>“The Top 10 Cars Owned By Playboy Playmates! Also, CR-V something-something Mojo.”</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the thing: there has been far too much ballyhoo, fooferaw, bluster and blather about Honda&#8217;s seeming design slump. It&#8217;s not a slump, it&#8217;s a <em>strategy</em>. The question is: does it work for the CR-V where it failed with the Civic?</p>
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<p>Like the critically-unacclaimed Honda Civic, nearly every piece of sheetmetal on the new CR-V is completely different &#8211; but not such that you&#8217;d notice. In fact, as our convoy snakes its way through the bleached-out California landscape, I do a double-take as somebody triple-lane-changes out of our line and dives for the off-ramp. Did I miss a turn? Wait, no: it&#8217;s just some lunatic in a last-gen CR-V.</p>
<p>On the other hand, the conservatism works. Gone is the slightly frumpy melting ice-cube of the previous gen, which if you squinted a little, looked a bit like the &#8217;11 cute-ute had muffin-top. The strong three-bar corporate grille gives the new CR-V some presence, the faux skid-plate treatment butches things up a bit, and from there on back think current Tribeca. There&#8217;s little to inspire, but also little to offend.</p>
<p>Inside, the cockpit should be familiar to anyone who&#8217;s sat in an Accord recently. Hard plastic surfaces abound, about which much hay will be made in various publications. However it&#8217;s perfectly acceptable, and should wear well except for the occasional bits of silver-painted trim. The between-seat storage bin, captain&#8217;s chairs and dash-mounted shifter maintain the modicum of mini-van present in the earlier model but overall, it&#8217;s a bit less utilitarian and more car-like.</p>
<p>A multi-angle backup camera is standard across the range, as well as an eco-coaching instrument cluster that goes green around the gills when you drive gently. Also standard: Bluetooth handfree and a USB connector for your audio. If you&#8217;ve an iPhone, you can run Pandora through the stereo, if you&#8217;ve a Blackberry, the car can read you your SMS messages. There&#8217;s now an optional DVD player to soothe rear-seat savages. Just enough tech to stay current.</p>
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<p>Product specialists were quick to point out how clever the rear seats were, capable of damped flat-folding action with a single pull from either side, or via levers in the cargo bay. Don&#8217;t expect the Hogwarts-grade magic of the Fit&#8217;s rear seats, but again: easy-to-use, works well, doesn&#8217;t feel like it&#8217;s going to break. Honda has also bunged out the old cargo tray in favour of a more standard layout. Dog-owners take note: the cargo floor is very low at 23.6”, perfect for older pooches. The rear doors open a full ninety degrees for maximum kid-wrangling.</p>
<p>I mildly alarm my co-pilot for the launch, internationally acclaimed rockstar and noted loud-walker Blake Z. Rong – Cato to my Clouseau, Turner to my Hooch – as we enter a corner too hot and all-season tires howl in aggrieved indignation. Understeer? Oh sure. There&#8217;s less roll than you might expect, and the CR-V is perfectly capable of hustling along these winding country roads, but is there joy to be found in doing so? Not much.</p>
<p>Besides which, flinging the offspring around the cabin with lateral-g is a sure-fire way to end up cleaning vomit out of the headliner. Forget the hooning, focus instead on the comfortable ride (10% more damper stroke) and in-cabin noise levels which are decent until you start requesting revs.</p>
<p>This new CR-V still has a 5-speed transmission, albeit a revised one, and to hear the clucks of disapproval, you might think that&#8217;s a mis-step. Why? Because six is one more, innit? Despite the fact that every other manufacturer seems to be suffering from Nigel Tufnel Syndrome, the five-speed box in the CR-V puts out perfectly decent fuel-economy (22/30mpg claimed) and will doubtless give years of trouble-free operation because it doesn&#8217;t have a V6 attached to it.</p>
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<p>Mind you, show the &#8217;12 CR-V a steep hill and the 2.4L four-cylinder – with all of 5 more horsepower this year – can struggle a bit. Engaging Eco mode feels like you&#8217;re suddenly trying to tow the Sea Shepherd around. Twice I noticed a reluctance to kick down even with the accelerator fully depressed, and with gearing taller across the board things can get a bit leisurely.</p>
<p>The 2012 CR-V is pitched as a safe choice. An easy choice. A choice you might make based on sensible price, reasonable fuel economy, a legacy of decent reliability, strong resale value and low operating costs. This new Honda presents all the same arguments that you&#8217;d traditionally expect from a Toyota product, and it&#8217;s 5-10% better than the best-selling out-going model in every empirically measurable field.</p>
<p>But as I sit in the morning product presentation, listening as the PR folks flesh out the target buyer to the point where we could positively identify her in a police lineup (30s, female, “cool mom”, active lifestyle, enjoys Pina Coladas, getting caught in the rain, etc.) I can&#8217;t help but start contrasting this spit-and-polish with Mazda&#8217;s recent SKYACTIV show-and-tell. Mazda&#8217;s gambling, taking a moon-shot with high-compression engines and a dedication to driving pleasure. Honda&#8217;s reacting to current economic instabilities and the public&#8217;s cooling ardour for the automobile by circling the wagons. Except they don&#8217;t make wagons anymore, so they&#8217;re circling the crossovers.</p>
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<p>The Q&amp;A was even more telling. Why only five gears in the transmission? A: Our research told us that people weren&#8217;t asking for more gears, just better fuel economy. Why those hard plastics? A: Our research showed that people didn&#8217;t have a problem with the old interior. What about small-displacement turbocharged engines? A: Our research showed us that people weren&#8217;t asking for that.</p>
<p>You know what though? Survey every single &#8217;80s Legend buyer, and nobody&#8217;s going to tell you to build an NSX. Survey every DC-chassis Integra owner and nobody&#8217;s going to tell you to build the S2000. Survey every &#8217;90s Accord wagon owner, and nobody would tell you to build a small, flexible, Civic-based SUV.</p>
<p>This new CR-V is a fine, sensible appliance; they&#8217;re going to sell boatloads of them. Forgive me if I was hoping for something with a little more innovation, a little more invention, a little more cutting-edge.</p>
<p>A little more Honda.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><em>Honda flew us all the way to sunny San Diego, put us up in a fancy hotel, crammed us full of rich food, provided current and previous models of the CR-V and even threw in a free Camelbak. We were also ferried to and from the airport in a high-mile Town Car.</em></p>

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		<title>Piston Slap: Zip Ties and the Love Of Leather?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 17:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sajeev Mehta</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#160; &#160; TTAC commentator mistercopacetic writes: Dear Mr. Mehta, Big fan of TTAC and Piston Slap. I have a 2001 Honda CR-V with a cloth interior which I would like to switch out for a leather interior. I am doing this mostly because I am too cheap to buy a new car, but want to [...]]]></description>
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<p>TTAC commentator <em>mistercopacetic</em> writes:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px">Dear Mr. Mehta,</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px">Big fan of TTAC and Piston Slap. I have a 2001 Honda CR-V with a cloth interior which I would like to switch out for a leather interior. I am doing this mostly because I am too cheap to buy a new car, but want to feel like I am driving a new car with leather seats. I found a store online selling a <a href="http://www.roadwire.com/products.html">Roadwire leather seat kit</a> for $595, on sale until June 15 from $962 list. It looks like this is a replacement interior, not just seat covers, so I will be pulling out the old seats, removing the cloth from the seat frame, and installing the leather. My question: is this something I can do myself, or is it better to get a professional installer? I would like to save some cash, but if it is a job that requires expertise I would rather pay someone who knows what they are doing. I&#8217;ve searched some forums online and my impression is that an aftermarket leather interior can either look terrible or meet or exceed a factory leather interior in look and quality, depending on the skill of the installer.</p>
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Sajeev answers:</p>
<p>You are right on all points, though I&#8217;m not touching that &#8220;too cheap to buy a new car&#8221; comment. Since you&#8217;ve done a fantastic job assessing the situation, I&#8217;ll tell you my experiences with seat material swaps. If you can dig it, give it a shot. If not, well&#8230;</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m with <a href="http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2010/02/ttac-wins-the-24-hours-of-lemons-sort-of/">pre-LeMons fame Troy Hogan&#8217;s</a> driveway with his a 1996 Ford F350 Crew Cab XL. It has a gray interior and those somewhat terrible XL seats. I only say &#8220;somewhat&#8221; because today&#8217;s benches in comparable trucks are just as terrible, even the King Ranches! So anyway, Troy shows me his junkyard score:  a pair of XLT benches finished in dark blue and another pair of XLT benches in the correct matching gray. The blue XLT&#8217;s had an intact seat frame and the gray ones had the right material, but were completely unusable because the donor truck was T-boned. Do you see where I&#8217;m going with this? Troy and I spent the better part of a day removing gray seat fabric (via snipping off thick metal hog rings), fiddling with seat foam to have the ideal bits on a single pair of benches, washing off gallons of milky-looking water from the gojo hand cleaner used on the dirty junkyard fabric and then, finally, we went through the pain of attaching the XLT material on various seating components (two bucket seats, one center seat, two arm rests, one rear bench) using&#8230;wait for it&#8230;<strong><em>zip ties!</em></strong></p>
<p>Honestly, the zip ties worked like a charm, and have done so for the past 5+ years. While easier than the metal hog rings because it allows a loose fit before completely crimping them down, it was still a time consuming, nightmare of a project. One that is somewhat similar to your fabric dilemma. And now my advice: give it a shot, at least remove the seats/hog rings so you can save the labor at the trim shop. You can start attaching it with zip ties, carefully looking at the contours to make sure it&#8217;s fitting correctly.</p>
<p>If any part of this Piston Slap is making you the least bit excited, you have your answer: DO IT.</p>
<p style="text-align: center"><em>Send your queries to <a href="mailto:sajeev@thetruthaboutcars.com" target="_blank">sajeev@thetruthaboutcars.com</a> </em><em>. Spare no details and ask for a speedy resolution if you’re in a hurry.</em></p>
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