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		<title>By: Robert.Walter</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/smart-fortwo-revisited/comment-page-2/#comment-1226831</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert.Walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 00:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a picture (I think) of a collision between a Smart and an M-Class, showing the M-Class on its side, and the Smart not all the worse for the wear... how to post pictures?  Can anyone tell me?</description>
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		<title>By: seminal</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/smart-fortwo-revisited/comment-page-2/#comment-8982</link>
		<dc:creator>seminal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 20:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could floor the gas on this thing an not worry about gas mileage?  Right now I&#039;m driving a 350z but can&#039;t enjoy the performance because of the traffic and the price of gas in LA.  Everytime I push on the gas I think about all the money flowing out of my tailpipe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I could floor the gas on this thing an not worry about gas mileage?  Right now I&#8217;m driving a 350z but can&#8217;t enjoy the performance because of the traffic and the price of gas in LA.  Everytime I push on the gas I think about all the money flowing out of my tailpipe.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Lesley Wimbush</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/smart-fortwo-revisited/comment-page-2/#comment-7375</link>
		<dc:creator>Lesley Wimbush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 03:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haaaahaa - Frank, you made that up didn&#039;t you??</description>
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		<title>By: NamDuong</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/smart-fortwo-revisited/comment-page-2/#comment-7171</link>
		<dc:creator>NamDuong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 20:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Americans are too fat to fit in these things.</description>
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		<title>By: Frank Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A news story from May of last year:

Lorry Driver Shunts Smart Car Down Motorway

A lorry driver shunted a tiny Smart car two miles down a busy German motorway because he didn&#039;t know it was wedged to his truck.

Klaus Buergermeister only stopped, allowing the Smart car&#039;s terrified driver to escape, when he was flagged down by police.

&quot;I couldn&#039;t believe it when I got out of the truck and saw there was a car stuck on the front of it,&quot; he (the driver) said.

He added he had felt a slight bump, but said he thought he had simply driven over a stone in the road.

Instead he had hit the Smart car and its bumper had wedged on the truck&#039;s radiator grill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->A news story from May of last year:</p>
<p>Lorry Driver Shunts Smart Car Down Motorway</p>
<p>A lorry driver shunted a tiny Smart car two miles down a busy German motorway because he didn&#8217;t know it was wedged to his truck.</p>
<p>Klaus Buergermeister only stopped, allowing the Smart car&#8217;s terrified driver to escape, when he was flagged down by police.</p>
<p>&#8220;I couldn&#8217;t believe it when I got out of the truck and saw there was a car stuck on the front of it,&#8221; he (the driver) said.</p>
<p>He added he had felt a slight bump, but said he thought he had simply driven over a stone in the road.</p>
<p>Instead he had hit the Smart car and its bumper had wedged on the truck&#8217;s radiator grill.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Lesley Wimbush</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/smart-fortwo-revisited/comment-page-2/#comment-6513</link>
		<dc:creator>Lesley Wimbush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 00:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I wasn&#039;t worried about safety at all while driving it. I&#039;d seen
all the crash test videos, and figured that the worst thing that could
happen in a crash is that we&#039;d probably bounce... and come down to rest
somewhere outside of Timmins.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Yes, I wasn&#39;t worried about safety at all while driving it. I&#39;d seen<br />
all the crash test videos, and figured that the worst thing that could<br />
happen in a crash is that we&#39;d probably bounce&#8230; and come down to rest<br />
somewhere outside of Timmins.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: RMcG</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/smart-fortwo-revisited/comment-page-2/#comment-6503</link>
		<dc:creator>RMcG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 21:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had one since December 2004, (a Passion)..(as also have an M6,SL500 and Touareg.)

I love the thing..I am six three and 260 and the damn thing is great in a congested city. My wife loves it and prefers it above any of the other cars. Acceleration is not..brisk, but in a crowded city you don&#039;t notice it. The passenger seat folds flat for hauling stuff. It is safer than it looks..an immensely strong rollcage basically..which is why insurance is very cheap. ALl the worries about them being wiped off the Canadian hghways by vast SUVs have not materialized. Yeah, the gearbox is rubbish, but at low speeds you forget about it after a while.....
It will probably the car I keep for the longest time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I have had one since December 2004, (a Passion)..(as also have an M6,SL500 and Touareg.)</p>
<p>I love the thing..I am six three and 260 and the damn thing is great in a congested city. My wife loves it and prefers it above any of the other cars. Acceleration is not..brisk, but in a crowded city you don&#8217;t notice it. The passenger seat folds flat for hauling stuff. It is safer than it looks..an immensely strong rollcage basically..which is why insurance is very cheap. ALl the worries about them being wiped off the Canadian hghways by vast SUVs have not materialized. Yeah, the gearbox is rubbish, but at low speeds you forget about it after a while&#8230;..<br />
It will probably the car I keep for the longest time.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Jonny Lieberman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonny Lieberman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 16:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eldunce:

Read what I write before responding.

Splattering your brains all over the sidewalkl would be shear.

However, if you landed on one of those stunt-guy air-filled pillow things, you would live. Hell, you would jump up and do it again.

Why?

Because of the two forces involved in an accident, deceleration does not kill humans -- only shear does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->eldunce:</p>
<p>Read what I write before responding.</p>
<p>Splattering your brains all over the sidewalkl would be shear.</p>
<p>However, if you landed on one of those stunt-guy air-filled pillow things, you would live. Hell, you would jump up and do it again.</p>
<p>Why?</p>
<p>Because of the two forces involved in an accident, deceleration does not kill humans &#8212; only shear does.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: pk</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/smart-fortwo-revisited/comment-page-2/#comment-6376</link>
		<dc:creator>pk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Aug 2006 22:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About the greashift, what might work, is to shift ahead of time.  It sounds annoying but can be quite fun: 

If you know a corner well, about two seconds before the desired shift point, notch the lever. The car will then - miraculously and much to the amazement of your passenger - shift exactly when you want it to.

Sad, but it works. Too bad BMW didn&#039;t develop the thing...</description>
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<p>If you know a corner well, about two seconds before the desired shift point, notch the lever. The car will then &#8211; miraculously and much to the amazement of your passenger &#8211; shift exactly when you want it to.</p>
<p>Sad, but it works. Too bad BMW didn&#8217;t develop the thing&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jerry weber</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/smart-fortwo-revisited/comment-page-2/#comment-6344</link>
		<dc:creator>jerry weber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Aug 2006 13:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the above two blogs speak for themselves. It will not be the fascist politicians leading the way for a sea change in what we drive, it will be necessity. Now if you think we can technology our way out of this, look again. A 2007 jeep commander with a german mb diesel will get 19 and 23mpg. Sure it&#039;s not the 15-19 that the gasser gets now, but it won&#039;t even put a dent in where we will have to get to in mpg for the future. This will take a sea change in size and power ratings of cars. 30mpg will have to be the norm with 40-50 on trips doable. We need to double fuel millege in the next decade, and those left leaning  pinko, communist, startving western europeans have accomplished this by having smaller lighter cars. Surely our democractically elected politicians in America will come up with a much more cowboy sized answer to the pot heads of Europe left wing approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->the above two blogs speak for themselves. It will not be the fascist politicians leading the way for a sea change in what we drive, it will be necessity. Now if you think we can technology our way out of this, look again. A 2007 jeep commander with a german mb diesel will get 19 and 23mpg. Sure it&#8217;s not the 15-19 that the gasser gets now, but it won&#8217;t even put a dent in where we will have to get to in mpg for the future. This will take a sea change in size and power ratings of cars. 30mpg will have to be the norm with 40-50 on trips doable. We need to double fuel millege in the next decade, and those left leaning  pinko, communist, startving western europeans have accomplished this by having smaller lighter cars. Surely our democractically elected politicians in America will come up with a much more cowboy sized answer to the pot heads of Europe left wing approach.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: 2006300c</title>
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		<dc:creator>2006300c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Aug 2006 00:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that more population equals more resource use is indisputable, but the future is not as bleak as it seems. The growing political pressure to stem illegal immigration is an ever rising tide. Also, low wage jobs are being filtered out by mechanization. There is now self propelled produce harvesting equipment and Self checkouts and automatic carwashes, dry cleaning and online services will make it very hard for people on the low end of the economic spectrum, who statistically have more children, to have a good life and still have multiple children. Prosecutions for the sick act of child support fraud are also on the rise in my state. The fact that even having one child puts a huge strain on anyoneâ€™s income will limit population growth among other sectors as well. There is also increased awareness and use of contraceptives. The fact that population tends to center on the coasts will also be addressed. As housing becomes scarce and unaffordable, people will have no choice but to move to the more inland states and perhaps even the former rust belt thus alleviating congestion. (5 bedroom house $499,000).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The fact that more population equals more resource use is indisputable, but the future is not as bleak as it seems. The growing political pressure to stem illegal immigration is an ever rising tide. Also, low wage jobs are being filtered out by mechanization. There is now self propelled produce harvesting equipment and Self checkouts and automatic carwashes, dry cleaning and online services will make it very hard for people on the low end of the economic spectrum, who statistically have more children, to have a good life and still have multiple children. Prosecutions for the sick act of child support fraud are also on the rise in my state. The fact that even having one child puts a huge strain on anyoneâ€™s income will limit population growth among other sectors as well. There is also increased awareness and use of contraceptives. The fact that population tends to center on the coasts will also be addressed. As housing becomes scarce and unaffordable, people will have no choice but to move to the more inland states and perhaps even the former rust belt thus alleviating congestion. (5 bedroom house $499,000).<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: David Holzman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Holzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2006 22:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2006300c writes
&gt;&gt;This is America, my friend, the home of individualism, no politician would be that stupid or that arrogant and self righteous to even consider something like that. Keep your left wing Euro trash nanny state neo-fascist beliefs to yourself please. If the American public desires more fuel efficiency (and they do), they will buy more efficient (not necessarily smaller) cars

As the nation becomes more crowded, more regulation will be inevitable. (Europe is around 2-3 times more crowded than the US.) We currently have a population of 300 million--up from 150 million when Eisenhower became president, and when rush hour traffic didn&#039;t exist in places like Seattle. If present trends hold, we&#039;ll be approaching half a billion by mid-century. To put it another way, the population is increasing by the equivalent of more than four New Jerseys every decade. This more than anything threatens our automobility. More info on the main cause of this problem at www.cis.org.</description>
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&gt;&gt;This is America, my friend, the home of individualism, no politician would be that stupid or that arrogant and self righteous to even consider something like that. Keep your left wing Euro trash nanny state neo-fascist beliefs to yourself please. If the American public desires more fuel efficiency (and they do), they will buy more efficient (not necessarily smaller) cars</p>
<p>As the nation becomes more crowded, more regulation will be inevitable. (Europe is around 2-3 times more crowded than the US.) We currently have a population of 300 million&#8211;up from 150 million when Eisenhower became president, and when rush hour traffic didn&#8217;t exist in places like Seattle. If present trends hold, we&#8217;ll be approaching half a billion by mid-century. To put it another way, the population is increasing by the equivalent of more than four New Jerseys every decade. This more than anything threatens our automobility. More info on the main cause of this problem at <a href="http://www.cis.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.cis.org</a>.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: 2006300c</title>
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		<dc:creator>2006300c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2006 18:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not talking about Pickups and Hummers which are a fad; Iâ€™m talking about normal automobiles, mid and full sized cars. Every liberal always points to hummers even though they constitute an incredible small amount of SUV sales. People who want to use the Government to falsely engineer some utopian dream world where everything is done for the so calledâ€common goodâ€ are anti democratic.  The American people never go along with these kinds of self righteous theories be the left or right wing.  Individual freedom is the foundation of a truly democratic society. Europe is controlled by a SO CALLED intellectual ruling class that will soon see their experiment fail do to a working population that cannot support the dependents. Technological innovation and the free market will address the issues related to fuel efficiency while allowing people to â€œhave their cake and eat it tooâ€ as it has done in the past and is doing currently with the example of Ford that you citied. The ford fusion is faster and more comfortable than The F150.  The American way works. I know you hate that but it is fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I am not talking about Pickups and Hummers which are a fad; Iâ€™m talking about normal automobiles, mid and full sized cars. Every liberal always points to hummers even though they constitute an incredible small amount of SUV sales. People who want to use the Government to falsely engineer some utopian dream world where everything is done for the so calledâ€common goodâ€ are anti democratic.  The American people never go along with these kinds of self righteous theories be the left or right wing.  Individual freedom is the foundation of a truly democratic society. Europe is controlled by a SO CALLED intellectual ruling class that will soon see their experiment fail do to a working population that cannot support the dependents. Technological innovation and the free market will address the issues related to fuel efficiency while allowing people to â€œhave their cake and eat it tooâ€ as it has done in the past and is doing currently with the example of Ford that you citied. The ford fusion is faster and more comfortable than The F150.  The American way works. I know you hate that but it is fact.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jerry weber</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerry weber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2006300C I like your minuteman attitude. We go down with our cannons blazing because this is America. An America that was given for too long a reduced price for fuel and responded by using half of the World&#039;s supply. Do you reallly think their will be a traffic lane for &quot;rugged American Individualists&quot; driving their pickups and humvs because this is not Europe? If the Govt has to function for the greatest good, then many types of &quot;changes&quot; will not only be mandated to but accepted by us the people. If you think that small cars only is extreme, try no cars just trains and other public transportation into cities. Gas that is essentially rationed by it&#039;s high price  willlimit long drives for all sorts of reasons. It&#039;s here without laws outlawing them, ford will decrease pickup mfg. by 28% because nobody is buying F150&#039;s unless they need them for hauling.  In Every other crisis the fuel came back down, not this time. China &amp; India will make sure that any surplus will be taken up by their new and larger use of fuel. This is change it is permanent and it is not European or pincko. (By the way, have you been to Continental Europe lately? It looks well ordered, and civilized to me. They have a lifestyle that uses less fuel but doesn&#039;t impede them one bit. Even Walmart had to leave Germany, they just weren&#039;t popular, some would not be angry if they left America.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->2006300C I like your minuteman attitude. We go down with our cannons blazing because this is America. An America that was given for too long a reduced price for fuel and responded by using half of the World&#8217;s supply. Do you reallly think their will be a traffic lane for &#8220;rugged American Individualists&#8221; driving their pickups and humvs because this is not Europe? If the Govt has to function for the greatest good, then many types of &#8220;changes&#8221; will not only be mandated to but accepted by us the people. If you think that small cars only is extreme, try no cars just trains and other public transportation into cities. Gas that is essentially rationed by it&#8217;s high price  willlimit long drives for all sorts of reasons. It&#8217;s here without laws outlawing them, ford will decrease pickup mfg. by 28% because nobody is buying F150&#8217;s unless they need them for hauling.  In Every other crisis the fuel came back down, not this time. China &amp; India will make sure that any surplus will be taken up by their new and larger use of fuel. This is change it is permanent and it is not European or pincko. (By the way, have you been to Continental Europe lately? It looks well ordered, and civilized to me. They have a lifestyle that uses less fuel but doesn&#8217;t impede them one bit. Even Walmart had to leave Germany, they just weren&#8217;t popular, some would not be angry if they left America.)<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: 2006300c</title>
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		<dc:creator>2006300c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2006 07:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Picture this, itâ€™s 2010 and the only thing they will let ordinary people into the tunnels leading to NYC are things like the smart car. Then Frisco, LA, and other cities restrict full sized cars in the city&lt;/em&gt;

This is America, my friend, the home of individualism, no politician would be that stupid or that arrogant and self righteous to even consider something like that. Keep your left wing Euro trash nanny state neo-fascist beliefs to yourself please. If the American public desires more fuel efficiency (and they do), they will buy more efficient (not necessarily smaller) cars</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>Picture this, itâ€™s 2010 and the only thing they will let ordinary people into the tunnels leading to NYC are things like the smart car. Then Frisco, LA, and other cities restrict full sized cars in the city</em></p>
<p>This is America, my friend, the home of individualism, no politician would be that stupid or that arrogant and self righteous to even consider something like that. Keep your left wing Euro trash nanny state neo-fascist beliefs to yourself please. If the American public desires more fuel efficiency (and they do), they will buy more efficient (not necessarily smaller) cars<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: gbh</title>
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		<dc:creator>gbh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2006 04:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eldunce,

&quot;If you decelerate 70mph as the result of a brick wall, over significantly less of one-fifth of a second, and you can bet your body is going to be hurting.&quot;

I have absolutely no argument with that conclusion. None. The point is, that it &lt;em&gt;can&lt;/em&gt; be a survivable event. 

I was simply agreeing that &lt;strong&gt;if &lt;/strong&gt;one is properly affixed, one&#039;s body can absorb a lot of g-force. In fact, more than is generated running head-on into a very thick concrete wall at 70 MPH.

Impalement, or parking lot belly-flop from the seventh floor is a somewhat different type of event. 

Several people have survived free falls from over 10,000 feet without a parachute.
(Since the person falling achieves terminal velocity of approx. 120 MPH after falling about 1000 ft, the altitude is kind of a moot point beyond that. But still...)</description>
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<p>&#8220;If you decelerate 70mph as the result of a brick wall, over significantly less of one-fifth of a second, and you can bet your body is going to be hurting.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have absolutely no argument with that conclusion. None. The point is, that it <em>can</em> be a survivable event. </p>
<p>I was simply agreeing that <strong>if </strong>one is properly affixed, one&#8217;s body can absorb a lot of g-force. In fact, more than is generated running head-on into a very thick concrete wall at 70 MPH.</p>
<p>Impalement, or parking lot belly-flop from the seventh floor is a somewhat different type of event. </p>
<p>Several people have survived free falls from over 10,000 feet without a parachute.<br />
(Since the person falling achieves terminal velocity of approx. 120 MPH after falling about 1000 ft, the altitude is kind of a moot point beyond that. But still&#8230;)<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ktm</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2006 03:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s shear, not sheer.</description>
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		<title>By: Lesley Wimbush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lesley Wimbush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 22:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>philipwitak: I quite agree... should have phrased it differently. 

I actually do care quite a lot - spend a lot of time in the woods on horseback where it seems time has stood still and surroundings are unsullied.
 Hard to balance a love of horsepower and combustion with concern over their effect.</description>
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<p>I actually do care quite a lot &#8211; spend a lot of time in the woods on horseback where it seems time has stood still and surroundings are unsullied.<br />
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		<title>By: David Holzman</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/smart-fortwo-revisited/comment-page-2/#comment-6230</link>
		<dc:creator>David Holzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 20:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ï»¿Stapp stopped short from 632 mph over 1.4 seconds, ï»¿ riding the rocket-
powered â€œSonic Windâ€ on sled tracks in 1953 experiments he conducted to test whether humans
might survive ejection from supersonic aircraft. He burst nearly every capillary in his eyes, though his sight was nearly normal a day later.</description>
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powered â€œSonic Windâ€ on sled tracks in 1953 experiments he conducted to test whether humans<br />
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		<title>By: philipwitak</title>
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		<dc:creator>philipwitak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 20:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thoroughly enjoyed this article and all the attendent comments. but with all due respect, i find your statement &quot;assume you give a shit about the environment. Thatâ€™s not exactly my thing...&quot; inappropriate and quite disappointing.

everybody - including pistonheads [and i am one myself] - needs to &#039;give a shit about the environment.&#039; and people in your position - people who attempt to influence others for a living - ought to be leading the way.</description>
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<p>everybody &#8211; including pistonheads [and i am one myself] &#8211; needs to &#8216;give a shit about the environment.&#8217; and people in your position &#8211; people who attempt to influence others for a living &#8211; ought to be leading the way.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: eldunce</title>
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		<dc:creator>eldunce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gbh:

&quot;properly applied&quot; forces mean applying a stop with something much less rigid than metal or stone.  The straps on captain stapp&#039;s chair are a good example of that, or a seatbelt.

If you decelerate 70mph as the result of a brick wall, over significantly less of one-fifth of a second, and you can bet your body is going to be hurting.</description>
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<p>&#8220;properly applied&#8221; forces mean applying a stop with something much less rigid than metal or stone.  The straps on captain stapp&#8217;s chair are a good example of that, or a seatbelt.</p>
<p>If you decelerate 70mph as the result of a brick wall, over significantly less of one-fifth of a second, and you can bet your body is going to be hurting.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: eldunce</title>
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		<dc:creator>eldunce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonny:  If you believe that so strongly, jump out of a building sometime - all you need to do is swan dive to survive, right?

To slow a 100lb person from 100mph takes 100 * 5280 / 100 = 5280 ft-lbs of work.  That work can be done in less time, requiring a higher instantaneous force, or more time, decreasing the instantaneous force required.

Seat belts are important not only because they keep you in place, but allow the deceleration to take a few fractions of a second more, in order that you don&#039;t get demolished.

You could argue that seatbelts, crumple zones and the like effectively eliminate the chance of being killed from deceleration, but it&#039;s certainly not impossible to die from such.  Shear may be a more deadly phenomenon, as it exposes your body to rapid ablation, but ask any motorcycle driver:  would they rather shear off their leathers, or run headlong into a median?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Jonny:  If you believe that so strongly, jump out of a building sometime &#8211; all you need to do is swan dive to survive, right?</p>
<p>To slow a 100lb person from 100mph takes 100 * 5280 / 100 = 5280 ft-lbs of work.  That work can be done in less time, requiring a higher instantaneous force, or more time, decreasing the instantaneous force required.</p>
<p>Seat belts are important not only because they keep you in place, but allow the deceleration to take a few fractions of a second more, in order that you don&#8217;t get demolished.</p>
<p>You could argue that seatbelts, crumple zones and the like effectively eliminate the chance of being killed from deceleration, but it&#8217;s certainly not impossible to die from such.  Shear may be a more deadly phenomenon, as it exposes your body to rapid ablation, but ask any motorcycle driver:  would they rather shear off their leathers, or run headlong into a median?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Frank Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting that someone brought up the Isetta.  When I showed this article to a co-worker, her first comment was &quot;That thing looks like the car Urkel drove!&quot;  For those who never saw the TV show &lt;em&gt;Family Matters&lt;/em&gt;, Urkel drove an Isetta.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Interesting that someone brought up the Isetta.  When I showed this article to a co-worker, her first comment was &#8220;That thing looks like the car Urkel drove!&#8221;  For those who never saw the TV show <em>Family Matters</em>, Urkel drove an Isetta.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: gbh</title>
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		<dc:creator>gbh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe this is the kind of AF testing Jonny is referencing...

http://www.ejectionsite.com/stapp.htm


There are limits to what the human body can handle, and they are often very much higher than people understand - IF the forces/abuse are imparted to the body correctly. 

Humans can survive in spaces well over 200F for much longer than one might think if certain rules are followed.

Oh yeah, if we&#039;re into Isettas, don&#039;t forget the Messerschmitts...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I believe this is the kind of AF testing Jonny is referencing&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ejectionsite.com/stapp.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.ejectionsite.com/stapp.htm</a></p>
<p>There are limits to what the human body can handle, and they are often very much higher than people understand &#8211; IF the forces/abuse are imparted to the body correctly. </p>
<p>Humans can survive in spaces well over 200F for much longer than one might think if certain rules are followed.</p>
<p>Oh yeah, if we&#8217;re into Isettas, don&#8217;t forget the Messerschmitts&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Jonny Lieberman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonny Lieberman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just so we are clear -- those two Brits in the video have NO CLUE as to what they are talking about.

Deceleration cannot kill human beings. This has been proven time and time again, most noteably by the Air Force in the 50s where they ran people at over 500 miles an hour into brick walls and they survived.

Why?

Because there was no sheer.

Accidents involve two and only two forces. 

Sheer and deceleration. Sheer kills. Deceleration does nothing.

Prevent sheer and humans live. This is why NASCAR drivers can hit walls at 180mph and live. There is no sheer.

Sheer is putting your head through a windshield, getting a steering column through your chest, have the car catch on fire, etc.

Read your &quot;Unsafe at Any Speed,&quot; people.</description>
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<p>Deceleration cannot kill human beings. This has been proven time and time again, most noteably by the Air Force in the 50s where they ran people at over 500 miles an hour into brick walls and they survived.</p>
<p>Why?</p>
<p>Because there was no sheer.</p>
<p>Accidents involve two and only two forces. </p>
<p>Sheer and deceleration. Sheer kills. Deceleration does nothing.</p>
<p>Prevent sheer and humans live. This is why NASCAR drivers can hit walls at 180mph and live. There is no sheer.</p>
<p>Sheer is putting your head through a windshield, getting a steering column through your chest, have the car catch on fire, etc.</p>
<p>Read your &#8220;Unsafe at Any Speed,&#8221; people.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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