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		<title>By: radimus</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/site-unseen-ttacs-new-focus/comment-page-3/#comment-36352</link>
		<dc:creator>radimus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I&#039;m late to the party on this, but in the new website design I am hoping that some accomodation will be made to make the site accessible and usable to visitors using PDA&#039;s and other mobile devices.</description>
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		<title>By: optic</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/site-unseen-ttacs-new-focus/comment-page-3/#comment-36222</link>
		<dc:creator>optic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 07:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this has been beaten to death at this point, but I wanted to first say that though I complained about some of the cutesy wordplay, I do not think TTAC should tone down the attitude or the high autophile standards of its reviewers. keep the sass, just make sure the writing remains clear and focused on communicating more than being clever.

second, I think the way to keep TTAC&#039;s character while also improving a bit would be to kill the 800-word limit (as many are saying) but use the extra verbiage not for a bunch of stats but for the writers to explain and justify their opinions a bit more. for example, I often hear writers here say the ride on a car is not very good, and I&#039;d like to hear more about why they think that and what they experienced while driving it. reading such things is entertaining, informs me about the car, and also educates me about what to feel for the next time I drive. bring it on.

also I think doing some point/counterpoint would be great. get a couple of your writers, if possible, to drive the same thing and duke out their opinions a bit. two expert, opinionated, literate people arguing about something fun is always interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I know this has been beaten to death at this point, but I wanted to first say that though I complained about some of the cutesy wordplay, I do not think TTAC should tone down the attitude or the high autophile standards of its reviewers. keep the sass, just make sure the writing remains clear and focused on communicating more than being clever.</p>
<p>second, I think the way to keep TTAC&#8217;s character while also improving a bit would be to kill the 800-word limit (as many are saying) but use the extra verbiage not for a bunch of stats but for the writers to explain and justify their opinions a bit more. for example, I often hear writers here say the ride on a car is not very good, and I&#8217;d like to hear more about why they think that and what they experienced while driving it. reading such things is entertaining, informs me about the car, and also educates me about what to feel for the next time I drive. bring it on.</p>
<p>also I think doing some point/counterpoint would be great. get a couple of your writers, if possible, to drive the same thing and duke out their opinions a bit. two expert, opinionated, literate people arguing about something fun is always interesting.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: squid</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/site-unseen-ttacs-new-focus/comment-page-3/#comment-35831</link>
		<dc:creator>squid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2007 18:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, what distinguishes TTAC from other autos sites is
the high quality of its informed and literate commenters.
Farago, you have built a very high quality audience.   I hope
whatever forums you have in the future perpetuate such a 
culture.

As for advise on what new TTAC features to build, I second many of the above reader comments.

Do not put a huge effort into duplicating a KBB / Edmunds 
type database to show that to get heated seats, the invoice
price of the LE package is higher than the premium package,
and moreover, doesn&#039;t include  the CD changer.

Do not become obsessed with test numbers especially where
normalization for road surface and temperature or tires are 
questionable.  Is road holding in July of 0.92g really better than
0.89g in Feb ?

Some positive suggestions:

Experiment with taxonomies and multi-faced classifications.
Looks at jobs.snap.com or zappos.com shoe store to see the
many ways of drilling down from the whole population
to a small subset to a very short list.

You are less limited in space for photos than print mags, 
so show the car from all angles.   So many _Automobile_
reviews mention parts of the car that are not shown in the
review, from redesigned tal lights to a new center console.

If you must run a special advertizing section, do something
original, like interviews with tort lawyers about lemon laws.

Realize you are now banking on years of archived reviews
and views, so do not make understanding the writing depend
on understanding some pop culture ephemera that&#039;s already 
deader than Anna Nicole Smith.   That said, a knowning 
reference to cultural touchstones is well appreciated.

&lt;i&gt;The V1 startup sounds have more blips and beeps than
Cabaret Voltaire at the 1978 Edinburgh Fringe Festival.&lt;/i&gt;

One approach I would like to see more of is technical 
background about car design and features.

Go beyond most other reviewers who provide an uncritical
feature checklist and say the car has ABS brakes, and 
instead, tell me the difference between super sport abs 
tuned on an STi or M3 vs the lame ABS on my 1996 Neon 
rental.

Write this ABS article as a standalone sidebar for some review, 
and when the topic of abs comes up in other articles, link to it.

Endulge writer&#039;s repartee only so far; labelling a car a 
shopping trolley or hairdresser&#039;s car or soccer mom/
nascar dad&#039;s choice without explaination is a useless cliche,
and far too many articles rely on similies such as
preferring the penetration of an RS4 to the dry humping 
of a mere S4.

But telling us the roofline of the car reminds you of 
the arched back of a canine doing #2 is OK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->For me, what distinguishes TTAC from other autos sites is<br />
the high quality of its informed and literate commenters.<br />
Farago, you have built a very high quality audience.   I hope<br />
whatever forums you have in the future perpetuate such a<br />
culture.</p>
<p>As for advise on what new TTAC features to build, I second many of the above reader comments.</p>
<p>Do not put a huge effort into duplicating a KBB / Edmunds<br />
type database to show that to get heated seats, the invoice<br />
price of the LE package is higher than the premium package,<br />
and moreover, doesn&#8217;t include  the CD changer.</p>
<p>Do not become obsessed with test numbers especially where<br />
normalization for road surface and temperature or tires are<br />
questionable.  Is road holding in July of 0.92g really better than<br />
0.89g in Feb ?</p>
<p>Some positive suggestions:</p>
<p>Experiment with taxonomies and multi-faced classifications.<br />
Looks at jobs.snap.com or zappos.com shoe store to see the<br />
many ways of drilling down from the whole population<br />
to a small subset to a very short list.</p>
<p>You are less limited in space for photos than print mags,<br />
so show the car from all angles.   So many _Automobile_<br />
reviews mention parts of the car that are not shown in the<br />
review, from redesigned tal lights to a new center console.</p>
<p>If you must run a special advertizing section, do something<br />
original, like interviews with tort lawyers about lemon laws.</p>
<p>Realize you are now banking on years of archived reviews<br />
and views, so do not make understanding the writing depend<br />
on understanding some pop culture ephemera that&#8217;s already<br />
deader than Anna Nicole Smith.   That said, a knowning<br />
reference to cultural touchstones is well appreciated.</p>
<p><i>The V1 startup sounds have more blips and beeps than<br />
Cabaret Voltaire at the 1978 Edinburgh Fringe Festival.</i></p>
<p>One approach I would like to see more of is technical<br />
background about car design and features.</p>
<p>Go beyond most other reviewers who provide an uncritical<br />
feature checklist and say the car has ABS brakes, and<br />
instead, tell me the difference between super sport abs<br />
tuned on an STi or M3 vs the lame ABS on my 1996 Neon<br />
rental.</p>
<p>Write this ABS article as a standalone sidebar for some review,<br />
and when the topic of abs comes up in other articles, link to it.</p>
<p>Endulge writer&#8217;s repartee only so far; labelling a car a<br />
shopping trolley or hairdresser&#8217;s car or soccer mom/<br />
nascar dad&#8217;s choice without explaination is a useless cliche,<br />
and far too many articles rely on similies such as<br />
preferring the penetration of an RS4 to the dry humping<br />
of a mere S4.</p>
<p>But telling us the roofline of the car reminds you of<br />
the arched back of a canine doing #2 is OK.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: WillyC3</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/site-unseen-ttacs-new-focus/comment-page-3/#comment-35815</link>
		<dc:creator>WillyC3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2007 14:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert,
Most vehicle reviews in the media are either (1) too lightweight and just regurgitate the brochure type info, or (2) are reviewed from a the perspective of a hard core performance enthusiast.  What is hard to find are in depth, comprehensive reviews that can suggest how a vehicle stacks up against the competition for different types of drivers.  A vehicle that is top notch for performance enthusiasts may be impractical for families, or for the commuter who wants a blend of perfromance, luxury, comfort, and gizmos.  I think reviews that also address how a vehicle compares with other models targeted for the prospective likely buyer category(s) would be of more value to a wider audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Robert,<br />
Most vehicle reviews in the media are either (1) too lightweight and just regurgitate the brochure type info, or (2) are reviewed from a the perspective of a hard core performance enthusiast.  What is hard to find are in depth, comprehensive reviews that can suggest how a vehicle stacks up against the competition for different types of drivers.  A vehicle that is top notch for performance enthusiasts may be impractical for families, or for the commuter who wants a blend of perfromance, luxury, comfort, and gizmos.  I think reviews that also address how a vehicle compares with other models targeted for the prospective likely buyer category(s) would be of more value to a wider audience.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: hayes</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/site-unseen-ttacs-new-focus/comment-page-3/#comment-35783</link>
		<dc:creator>hayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert-

Great site-  I&#039;ve been reading it for months, but only now registered to post this comment.

There are a number of features that I see lacking from other car review and comparison sites.  These usually concern technical and feature details that are not published by the car companies marketing departments and are only found buries in an owners manual or service manual.

Some examples of features I&#039;d like to see included in comparisons are:

Drive train (fwd, rwd, 4wd, awd)
More transmission details than just standard or automatic.   Adjustable shift points? Paddle shifter?  
Can you deactivate the traction control?
Can you deactivate the anti-lock brakes?
Do the tires have enough body clearance to allow tire chains or cables? (I live in snow country)
Does the vehicle use a common tire size.  Odd/different tire sizes can greatly reduce the selection of aftermarket tires.
Interior sound levels at various speeds (30, 55, 70 MPH?)
And finally, something that will probably annoy the rest of the readers of this site- the number of cup holders accessible to the driver.

These are just some examples of things that I see lacking from most other sites.

I am looking forward to the new site.  Keep up the good work.

hayes.</description>
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<p>Great site-  I&#8217;ve been reading it for months, but only now registered to post this comment.</p>
<p>There are a number of features that I see lacking from other car review and comparison sites.  These usually concern technical and feature details that are not published by the car companies marketing departments and are only found buries in an owners manual or service manual.</p>
<p>Some examples of features I&#8217;d like to see included in comparisons are:</p>
<p>Drive train (fwd, rwd, 4wd, awd)<br />
More transmission details than just standard or automatic.   Adjustable shift points? Paddle shifter?<br />
Can you deactivate the traction control?<br />
Can you deactivate the anti-lock brakes?<br />
Do the tires have enough body clearance to allow tire chains or cables? (I live in snow country)<br />
Does the vehicle use a common tire size.  Odd/different tire sizes can greatly reduce the selection of aftermarket tires.<br />
Interior sound levels at various speeds (30, 55, 70 MPH?)<br />
And finally, something that will probably annoy the rest of the readers of this site- the number of cup holders accessible to the driver.</p>
<p>These are just some examples of things that I see lacking from most other sites.</p>
<p>I am looking forward to the new site.  Keep up the good work.</p>
<p>hayes.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: bram</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/site-unseen-ttacs-new-focus/comment-page-3/#comment-35780</link>
		<dc:creator>bram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As others have said, it&#039;s critically important that you keep minimalism - a page about a care should first and foremost show a review, without lots of clutter around it.

Second, there should links to similar models from any review, to keep  your readers from wandering off to another site when they&#039;re done with the review. A side-by-side comparison feature inherently complicated and busy and a bit much.

Third, true pricing information and contacting local dealer features are critical, because users have to do them eventually, and you don&#039;t want them to leave your site for that.

Fourth, the front page needs to be helpful for people who haven&#039;t the foggiest idea about existing models but have some general notion of what kind of car they want - for example, I might want a small convertible, or a large truck, or a medium-sized sedan. A zillion ways to search cluttering up the front page is counterproductive, but some jumping-off point is important.

Finally, you can never beat comprehensiveness of reviews - ideally your site should have a review of the latest model year of every major model. Currently it isn&#039;t anywhere close to that, but hopefully some changes which boost readership will enable the budget to let that happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->As others have said, it&#8217;s critically important that you keep minimalism &#8211; a page about a care should first and foremost show a review, without lots of clutter around it.</p>
<p>Second, there should links to similar models from any review, to keep  your readers from wandering off to another site when they&#8217;re done with the review. A side-by-side comparison feature inherently complicated and busy and a bit much.</p>
<p>Third, true pricing information and contacting local dealer features are critical, because users have to do them eventually, and you don&#8217;t want them to leave your site for that.</p>
<p>Fourth, the front page needs to be helpful for people who haven&#8217;t the foggiest idea about existing models but have some general notion of what kind of car they want &#8211; for example, I might want a small convertible, or a large truck, or a medium-sized sedan. A zillion ways to search cluttering up the front page is counterproductive, but some jumping-off point is important.</p>
<p>Finally, you can never beat comprehensiveness of reviews &#8211; ideally your site should have a review of the latest model year of every major model. Currently it isn&#8217;t anywhere close to that, but hopefully some changes which boost readership will enable the budget to let that happen.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: MaxHedrm</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/site-unseen-ttacs-new-focus/comment-page-3/#comment-35759</link>
		<dc:creator>MaxHedrm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 06:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea sounds great, though I think you should continue to feature the editorials fairly prominently, since that is one of your unique features.</description>
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		<title>By: Areitu</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/site-unseen-ttacs-new-focus/comment-page-3/#comment-35754</link>
		<dc:creator>Areitu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 05:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found TTAC through a review of the VW R32, thought it was hilarious, and started reading other reviews. Initially I thought TTAC was a British site, but watching it grow has been as fun as reading all the new reviews.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I found TTAC through a review of the VW R32, thought it was hilarious, and started reading other reviews. Initially I thought TTAC was a British site, but watching it grow has been as fun as reading all the new reviews.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: pdohara</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/site-unseen-ttacs-new-focus/comment-page-3/#comment-35745</link>
		<dc:creator>pdohara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 02:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Provided you can maintain the spirit of The Truth, I think its a great idea to step up to the plate. I would suggest that, considering some of the great comments readers contribute, you provide the opportunity for &quot;free&quot;lance articles in tune with The Truth. You could review submitted articles to ensure compliance. I&#039;m sure you&#039;d be allowing yourselves the opportunity to provide The Truth with some great auto related articles and a niche that none of the heavy hitters would dare to enter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Provided you can maintain the spirit of The Truth, I think its a great idea to step up to the plate. I would suggest that, considering some of the great comments readers contribute, you provide the opportunity for &#8220;free&#8221;lance articles in tune with The Truth. You could review submitted articles to ensure compliance. I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;d be allowing yourselves the opportunity to provide The Truth with some great auto related articles and a niche that none of the heavy hitters would dare to enter.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: RobD</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/site-unseen-ttacs-new-focus/comment-page-3/#comment-35725</link>
		<dc:creator>RobD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 21:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haven&#039;t read each comment, it&#039;s just too much at the moment,
but I would like to see a set of stars for  category.  So a car could get 5 stars for performance but  maybe 2 for comfort (Viper?). Also, let&#039;s have quite a few extended categories, including hoonage, bling, and so on...
as well as the usual quality, safety, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Haven&#8217;t read each comment, it&#8217;s just too much at the moment,<br />
but I would like to see a set of stars for  category.  So a car could get 5 stars for performance but  maybe 2 for comfort (Viper?). Also, let&#8217;s have quite a few extended categories, including hoonage, bling, and so on&#8230;<br />
as well as the usual quality, safety, etc.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: dean</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/site-unseen-ttacs-new-focus/comment-page-3/#comment-35720</link>
		<dc:creator>dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 20:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My two cents:

Go ahead with the redesign and refocusing.  I love the editorials, but they have begun to dominate the content.  Without focusing more on reviews you risk becoming nothing more than an auto-related blog.  Call me a luddite, but I dislike most blogs and I prefer to think of TTAC as an online magazine.

Unlike many here (apparently) TTAC is the ONLY auto site that I visit regularly.  Which means that I come here for the writing, not so much for the subject.  So it is absolutely imperative for me that you keep the quality up.  Do not dilute the writing for sake of quantity.

Keep the 800 word limit for editorials.  Keep an 800 word limit on the reviews, but consider using sidebars for additional observations (cargo space, back seat room, and the like).  The short reviews keep things interesting, quick to read, and encourage the TTAC style.  Sidebars (which could be written by someone else as a counterpoint, too) allow the inclusion of information some people want but others don&#039;t care about.

Keep comments on the editorials, but lose them on the reviews, if only to save yourselves the burden of moderation.  Comment sections in reviews rarely stay relevant, and often lead to stupidity and flames.

Don&#039;t thread comments.  If possible, see if the site developer can send a cookie (yeah, I know) that will allow readers to find the last comment they read.

Keep up the good work.</description>
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<p>Go ahead with the redesign and refocusing.  I love the editorials, but they have begun to dominate the content.  Without focusing more on reviews you risk becoming nothing more than an auto-related blog.  Call me a luddite, but I dislike most blogs and I prefer to think of TTAC as an online magazine.</p>
<p>Unlike many here (apparently) TTAC is the ONLY auto site that I visit regularly.  Which means that I come here for the writing, not so much for the subject.  So it is absolutely imperative for me that you keep the quality up.  Do not dilute the writing for sake of quantity.</p>
<p>Keep the 800 word limit for editorials.  Keep an 800 word limit on the reviews, but consider using sidebars for additional observations (cargo space, back seat room, and the like).  The short reviews keep things interesting, quick to read, and encourage the TTAC style.  Sidebars (which could be written by someone else as a counterpoint, too) allow the inclusion of information some people want but others don&#8217;t care about.</p>
<p>Keep comments on the editorials, but lose them on the reviews, if only to save yourselves the burden of moderation.  Comment sections in reviews rarely stay relevant, and often lead to stupidity and flames.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t thread comments.  If possible, see if the site developer can send a cookie (yeah, I know) that will allow readers to find the last comment they read.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Jordan Tenenbaum</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/site-unseen-ttacs-new-focus/comment-page-3/#comment-35718</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan Tenenbaum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 20:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By now everyones eyes are probably bleeding, so I&#039;ll keep this short.

1. A forum would be a good idea. Maybe at the end of car reviews, have a link that takes you to the specific thread for that car. Maybe that&#039;s cheesy, I don&#039;t know. At any rate, a forum for comments would be a good thing, I think. 

2. A new car survey. If anyone has read Top Gear, you&#039;ll know that they have this every year. Lets say I bought a &#039;06 Camry. TTAC invites people who have bought a new &#039;06/&#039;07 Camry in the past 7 or so months to take a survey about their car. What they liked, what they didn&#039;t, etc. After so many surveys are compiled, put up the results. This obviously might not be feasible right off the bat, but I think it could work.

Ok, I tried to keep it short.</description>
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<p>1. A forum would be a good idea. Maybe at the end of car reviews, have a link that takes you to the specific thread for that car. Maybe that&#8217;s cheesy, I don&#8217;t know. At any rate, a forum for comments would be a good thing, I think. </p>
<p>2. A new car survey. If anyone has read Top Gear, you&#8217;ll know that they have this every year. Lets say I bought a &#8216;06 Camry. TTAC invites people who have bought a new &#8216;06/&#8217;07 Camry in the past 7 or so months to take a survey about their car. What they liked, what they didn&#8217;t, etc. After so many surveys are compiled, put up the results. This obviously might not be feasible right off the bat, but I think it could work.</p>
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		<title>By: yournamehere</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/site-unseen-ttacs-new-focus/comment-page-3/#comment-35714</link>
		<dc:creator>yournamehere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 20:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>another idea for a review...what if you test diff trim levels of the same car? Most tests i read are done with the top of the line model.  the volume leader wont have the leather seats, sport supsention and bigger wheels. test the diff trim levels and advise on which is the best buy for the money.

Good Luck!</description>
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		<title>By: David Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/site-unseen-ttacs-new-focus/comment-page-3/#comment-35711</link>
		<dc:creator>David Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 19:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert,
First this is a good idea. Perhaps the health of GM led to the move? or was it more the site&#039;s growth/money generation? Either way good deal. 
Second: I know you didn&#039;t mention us but Cars.com is objective. We do not take any trips without paying, pay for the gas we use in test cars, take no dinners, don&#039;t except expensive press kit items (ipods etc) and the like. It&#039;s actually a very strict policy. We&#039;re a big guy I know, but please don&#039;t lump us in with the rest when it comes to that fact. Of course, finding all of our original reviews isn&#039;t the easiest because the reviews landing page still features just one of the four reviewers but it&#039;s not that hard to find a review...I don&#039;t think.
Third: I&#039;m not spamming but the guys looking to do the &quot;search via features&quot; like mpg, AWD, $ etc., that&#039;s a tool we already have as well on Cars.com. I know it&#039;s hard to find because it&#039;s new but if anyone&#039;s interested they can email me at editor@cars.com for the link. It&#039;s pretty cool. Again I don&#039;t want to spam but its been done before.  
Fourth: There is always room on the web for good honest reviews and while I differ in opinion from a lot on this site I think they&#039;re all well done. It&#039;s not like your guys don&#039;t know what they&#039;re talking about that&#039;s for sure and I think the level of discourse in the comments on TTAC is among the best out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Robert,<br />
First this is a good idea. Perhaps the health of GM led to the move? or was it more the site&#8217;s growth/money generation? Either way good deal.<br />
Second: I know you didn&#8217;t mention us but Cars.com is objective. We do not take any trips without paying, pay for the gas we use in test cars, take no dinners, don&#8217;t except expensive press kit items (ipods etc) and the like. It&#8217;s actually a very strict policy. We&#8217;re a big guy I know, but please don&#8217;t lump us in with the rest when it comes to that fact. Of course, finding all of our original reviews isn&#8217;t the easiest because the reviews landing page still features just one of the four reviewers but it&#8217;s not that hard to find a review&#8230;I don&#8217;t think.<br />
Third: I&#8217;m not spamming but the guys looking to do the &#8220;search via features&#8221; like mpg, AWD, $ etc., that&#8217;s a tool we already have as well on Cars.com. I know it&#8217;s hard to find because it&#8217;s new but if anyone&#8217;s interested they can email me at <a href="mailto:editor@cars.com">editor@cars.com</a> for the link. It&#8217;s pretty cool. Again I don&#8217;t want to spam but its been done before.<br />
Fourth: There is always room on the web for good honest reviews and while I differ in opinion from a lot on this site I think they&#8217;re all well done. It&#8217;s not like your guys don&#8217;t know what they&#8217;re talking about that&#8217;s for sure and I think the level of discourse in the comments on TTAC is among the best out there.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: The Flexible Despot</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/site-unseen-ttacs-new-focus/comment-page-3/#comment-35703</link>
		<dc:creator>The Flexible Despot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 18:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Don&#039;t get all bogged down in statistics and specifications, unless we are talking about a car likely to be used on a track. Whatever other faults it may have, C&amp;D already does a comprehensive testing of cars. For those that want that, this is already being done elsewhere, so seek attention in other areas.

2. Used cars. To pick one example, reviewers routinely lambast i-Drive in newer BMWs, as well as their styling. The obvious missing link is &quot;If you don&#039;t like i-Drive, then maybe you ought to take a look at an older BMW without this.&quot; Here&#039;s our take (and vetted readers&#039;) on older BMWs, if you like the BMW vibe, but just are turned off by the newer models. Or just want to save some money. I&#039;d be glad to give a summary on what to expect from owning an &#039;89BMW, &#039;95 Mercedes, or &#039;03 Volvo. Reviews of cars by people who have them for longer than a week really tell you alot.

3. Keep the colorful writing style. Then again, I love Raymondy Chandler novels and his great metaphors. Most writing on cars is dry as dust. The humor is one of the big reasons I visit the site. We live in an age of conformity and euphemism. It is refreshing to see somebody call &#039;em like they see &#039;em in the automotive world. I can read boilerplate stuff anywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->1. Don&#8217;t get all bogged down in statistics and specifications, unless we are talking about a car likely to be used on a track. Whatever other faults it may have, C&amp;D already does a comprehensive testing of cars. For those that want that, this is already being done elsewhere, so seek attention in other areas.</p>
<p>2. Used cars. To pick one example, reviewers routinely lambast i-Drive in newer BMWs, as well as their styling. The obvious missing link is &#8220;If you don&#8217;t like i-Drive, then maybe you ought to take a look at an older BMW without this.&#8221; Here&#8217;s our take (and vetted readers&#8217;) on older BMWs, if you like the BMW vibe, but just are turned off by the newer models. Or just want to save some money. I&#8217;d be glad to give a summary on what to expect from owning an &#8216;89BMW, &#8216;95 Mercedes, or &#8216;03 Volvo. Reviews of cars by people who have them for longer than a week really tell you alot.</p>
<p>3. Keep the colorful writing style. Then again, I love Raymondy Chandler novels and his great metaphors. Most writing on cars is dry as dust. The humor is one of the big reasons I visit the site. We live in an age of conformity and euphemism. It is refreshing to see somebody call &#8216;em like they see &#8216;em in the automotive world. I can read boilerplate stuff anywhere.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: chalmers</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/site-unseen-ttacs-new-focus/comment-page-3/#comment-35698</link>
		<dc:creator>chalmers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 18:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been watching the comments come through on this, and I still think that TTAC is moving in the correct direction. 

I think that there&#039;s a difference between a for-profit business like Coke and a for-profit business like TTAC. As long as TTAC retains its strong parts who are we, mere web mortals, to tell Farago et. al. that they shouldn&#039;t change? The democratic process that this site has taken is really brilliant in my mind. I read slate sometimes and no one asked me what I thought of the site and impending changes, and I f--king hate the new site. I read it much less now because it&#039;s annoying. 

I have confidence that RF is going to do what is best for TTAC AND its readers, something that is really lacking in today&#039;s e-market. If I don&#039;t want to read the reviews I don&#039;t have to. And for everyone else, I think it&#039;s the same. However, I think that the main group of readers is going to still come back for the biting industry commentary and if more people come to read reviews and stuff that&#039;s good for the bottom line. The old adage &quot;evolve or die&quot; couldn&#039;t be more true than on the internet and I just don&#039;t think that the guys (and girl) that are commenting on the site now can maintain the traffic that is needed for TTAC to not fall. 

Personally, I would prefer that there are (slightly) more ads and a new layout and a more average-car-user-friendly focus than to lose more writers like Loverman. Cause lets face it, he&#039;s going where the $$ is and there&#039;s absolutely nothing wrong with that. I&#039;m just saying that I&#039;d prefer certain sacrifices if it means that the quality of the writing can remain the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I&#8217;ve been watching the comments come through on this, and I still think that TTAC is moving in the correct direction. </p>
<p>I think that there&#8217;s a difference between a for-profit business like Coke and a for-profit business like TTAC. As long as TTAC retains its strong parts who are we, mere web mortals, to tell Farago et. al. that they shouldn&#8217;t change? The democratic process that this site has taken is really brilliant in my mind. I read slate sometimes and no one asked me what I thought of the site and impending changes, and I f&#8211;king hate the new site. I read it much less now because it&#8217;s annoying. </p>
<p>I have confidence that RF is going to do what is best for TTAC AND its readers, something that is really lacking in today&#8217;s e-market. If I don&#8217;t want to read the reviews I don&#8217;t have to. And for everyone else, I think it&#8217;s the same. However, I think that the main group of readers is going to still come back for the biting industry commentary and if more people come to read reviews and stuff that&#8217;s good for the bottom line. The old adage &#8220;evolve or die&#8221; couldn&#8217;t be more true than on the internet and I just don&#8217;t think that the guys (and girl) that are commenting on the site now can maintain the traffic that is needed for TTAC to not fall. </p>
<p>Personally, I would prefer that there are (slightly) more ads and a new layout and a more average-car-user-friendly focus than to lose more writers like Loverman. Cause lets face it, he&#8217;s going where the $$ is and there&#8217;s absolutely nothing wrong with that. I&#8217;m just saying that I&#8217;d prefer certain sacrifices if it means that the quality of the writing can remain the same.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: mdanda</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/site-unseen-ttacs-new-focus/comment-page-3/#comment-35696</link>
		<dc:creator>mdanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 18:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why it is a B-A-D idea:

I read many car magazines and web sites. I don&#039;t contribute to any of them. I do contribute to TTAC. Do you know why? Because it is NOT a (blatently) for-profit business. It is a community in which all the contributors do so out of love for the automobile. The lead writer has a mission to educate, not to sell. Of course, some advertising here and there is necessary to cover expenses. But once it becomes a bread-and-butter for-profit business, it is no longer a community of enthusiasts. 

Now, on the other hand, if I came across a brick-and-morter product or business with the &quot;farago&quot; name or endorsement, I would trust that that product would be a quality product. I would be comfortable supporting that business. But messing with TTAC? Sheesh!

Did I effectively express my dissatisfaction with this new plan?</description>
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<p>I read many car magazines and web sites. I don&#8217;t contribute to any of them. I do contribute to TTAC. Do you know why? Because it is NOT a (blatently) for-profit business. It is a community in which all the contributors do so out of love for the automobile. The lead writer has a mission to educate, not to sell. Of course, some advertising here and there is necessary to cover expenses. But once it becomes a bread-and-butter for-profit business, it is no longer a community of enthusiasts. </p>
<p>Now, on the other hand, if I came across a brick-and-morter product or business with the &#8220;farago&#8221; name or endorsement, I would trust that that product would be a quality product. I would be comfortable supporting that business. But messing with TTAC? Sheesh!</p>
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		<title>By: pilfjd</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/site-unseen-ttacs-new-focus/comment-page-3/#comment-35695</link>
		<dc:creator>pilfjd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 17:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the driver and &quot;autophile&quot; focus this site has.  I won&#039;t like it if TTAC becomes one of those sites that rates cars on how family friendly they are.

The standard performance stats (1/4 mile times, 0-60 accel, skidpad, etc.) are all well and good, but I&#039;m primarily concerned with how a car makes *me* feel (how about &quot;hoonage&quot; factor for cars or Top Gear style track times?), not how capable it is transporting a family of four around.  Please keep that passion in TTAC.  Be different than the other guys.

Oh and also, like others have mentioned, please tone down on the simile&#039;s and metaphors in the reviews.  Sometimes it&#039;s just too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I like the driver and &#8220;autophile&#8221; focus this site has.  I won&#8217;t like it if TTAC becomes one of those sites that rates cars on how family friendly they are.</p>
<p>The standard performance stats (1/4 mile times, 0-60 accel, skidpad, etc.) are all well and good, but I&#8217;m primarily concerned with how a car makes *me* feel (how about &#8220;hoonage&#8221; factor for cars or Top Gear style track times?), not how capable it is transporting a family of four around.  Please keep that passion in TTAC.  Be different than the other guys.</p>
<p>Oh and also, like others have mentioned, please tone down on the simile&#8217;s and metaphors in the reviews.  Sometimes it&#8217;s just too much.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: FreeMan</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/site-unseen-ttacs-new-focus/comment-page-3/#comment-35692</link>
		<dc:creator>FreeMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 17:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I forgot to ask...

You said &quot;new focus&quot;.  Does that mean we&#039;re getting the Euro Focus now?


Sorry, had to ask...  :)</description>
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<p>You said &#8220;new focus&#8221;.  Does that mean we&#8217;re getting the Euro Focus now?</p>
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		<title>By: FreeMan</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/site-unseen-ttacs-new-focus/comment-page-3/#comment-35690</link>
		<dc:creator>FreeMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 17:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep the attitude &amp; style, loose the 800 word limit.  There&#039;s just not enough room in 800 words - many of the reviewers have said so when questioned about things missing in their reviews.

Make the navigation simple &amp; include the keyword searching (as many have mentioned).

Include links to all the other sites for the nitty gritty numbers.  Sure they&#039;re entertaining, but until I&#039;m looking to drop $70-100K on a sports car, I really don&#039;t care about a couple hundredths in the 1/4 mile, but I do care about cargo space.  I can find that from any of the other sites, it&#039;d be nice to link to it quickly when I&#039;m ready to get down to it.

Most important:  Review the car for its intended audience.  All the reviews are great, but I keep thinking yeah, it sucks at canyon carving, but I&#039;m not really interested in that - I just gotta make it to work this morning.

Don&#039;t know if you can, but see if you can get ads targeted at add-on parts, shops, etc. not car manufacturers/dealers.  That will help keep the sense of objectivity for the new viewers.

None of these are original ideas, I just wanted to add my $0.02 worth.

Keep up the great work, keep it simple, and rake in the cash!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Keep the attitude &amp; style, loose the 800 word limit.  There&#8217;s just not enough room in 800 words &#8211; many of the reviewers have said so when questioned about things missing in their reviews.</p>
<p>Make the navigation simple &amp; include the keyword searching (as many have mentioned).</p>
<p>Include links to all the other sites for the nitty gritty numbers.  Sure they&#8217;re entertaining, but until I&#8217;m looking to drop $70-100K on a sports car, I really don&#8217;t care about a couple hundredths in the 1/4 mile, but I do care about cargo space.  I can find that from any of the other sites, it&#8217;d be nice to link to it quickly when I&#8217;m ready to get down to it.</p>
<p>Most important:  Review the car for its intended audience.  All the reviews are great, but I keep thinking yeah, it sucks at canyon carving, but I&#8217;m not really interested in that &#8211; I just gotta make it to work this morning.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t know if you can, but see if you can get ads targeted at add-on parts, shops, etc. not car manufacturers/dealers.  That will help keep the sense of objectivity for the new viewers.</p>
<p>None of these are original ideas, I just wanted to add my $0.02 worth.</p>
<p>Keep up the great work, keep it simple, and rake in the cash!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: mdanda</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/site-unseen-ttacs-new-focus/comment-page-3/#comment-35689</link>
		<dc:creator>mdanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 17:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not as optimistic as the others here. I think it&#039;s a mistake. Once the site becomes big and bloated and chock full of detail, it will no longer be interesting and unique. It becomes another noisy car site. 

I would keep the site as is and seek your fortune in more creative (or less creative, as the case may be) ways. Build a side business that leverages the brand that you&#039;ve created. But the site itself is sacred and should not be tampered with. 

TTAC&#039;s foundation is free content. Your contributors write for free. The community is free to join. Everyone is here because they enjoy it. Trying to turn it into a profitable business turns against the e-society that allowed it to become successful in the first place. It is not &quot;natural&quot;. 

Feel free to make money in other ways, as a result of building a respected surname in car circles. But messing with the TTAC formula spells d-o-o-m.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I&#8217;m not as optimistic as the others here. I think it&#8217;s a mistake. Once the site becomes big and bloated and chock full of detail, it will no longer be interesting and unique. It becomes another noisy car site. </p>
<p>I would keep the site as is and seek your fortune in more creative (or less creative, as the case may be) ways. Build a side business that leverages the brand that you&#8217;ve created. But the site itself is sacred and should not be tampered with. </p>
<p>TTAC&#8217;s foundation is free content. Your contributors write for free. The community is free to join. Everyone is here because they enjoy it. Trying to turn it into a profitable business turns against the e-society that allowed it to become successful in the first place. It is not &#8220;natural&#8221;. </p>
<p>Feel free to make money in other ways, as a result of building a respected surname in car circles. But messing with the TTAC formula spells d-o-o-m.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: GlennS</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/site-unseen-ttacs-new-focus/comment-page-3/#comment-35682</link>
		<dc:creator>GlennS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 17:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;How about a sidebar where you have three or four reviewers give a two sentence thumb up or down: “The Sporty Guy,” “The Practical Guy,” “The Value Guy” and the “The Cheap Guy?” That way a user could see at a glance whether their “similar” reviewer liked the car.&lt;/em&gt;
Nice. (But, um, sport person--females buy cars too).

&lt;em&gt;Threaded comments&lt;/em&gt;
Yuck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>How about a sidebar where you have three or four reviewers give a two sentence thumb up or down: “The Sporty Guy,” “The Practical Guy,” “The Value Guy” and the “The Cheap Guy?” That way a user could see at a glance whether their “similar” reviewer liked the car.</em><br />
Nice. (But, um, sport person&#8211;females buy cars too).</p>
<p><em>Threaded comments</em><br />
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		<title>By: BimmerHead</title>
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		<dc:creator>BimmerHead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert!
I think you are doing the right thing!  As much as I have enjoyed the site over the past few months of daily reading, I must admit that it has gotten a little editorial heavy.
In addition to strait car reviews, I would love to see comparisons of similar models.... And while car specs can be found all over the web, I believe it would be worth at least linking to this kind of information within your reviews.  Opinions are great and all, but consumers expect some level of comparable empiric data to go along.

Keep up the great work.  I look forward to seeing the new format. 

PS Please test it in IE7 - the current home page looks bad in IE7.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Robert!<br />
I think you are doing the right thing!  As much as I have enjoyed the site over the past few months of daily reading, I must admit that it has gotten a little editorial heavy.<br />
In addition to strait car reviews, I would love to see comparisons of similar models&#8230;. And while car specs can be found all over the web, I believe it would be worth at least linking to this kind of information within your reviews.  Opinions are great and all, but consumers expect some level of comparable empiric data to go along.</p>
<p>Keep up the great work.  I look forward to seeing the new format. </p>
<p>PS Please test it in IE7 &#8211; the current home page looks bad in IE7.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jerseydevil</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerseydevil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 14:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the style of writing here very much.  It reminds me of Automobile magazine under David E. Davis (maybe a little less snooty…hmmm).  Cars are not life; they are a part of life. Describing a car by listing statistics is about as illuminative as describing a meal by the carb and protein count.  I like the language here; I like the seat of the pants reactions.  I sincerely hope that does not change. I can get bland statistics anywhere; they are all over the place.  Insightful, honest impressions... that is more elusive.  

That&#039;s why I also read Consumer reports.  Though they are decidedly bland and pragmatic in their reviews, they will tell you what it might be like to actually live with a car for years.  I mix that info with an enthusiast&#039;s site like this one, and BINGO!  Real information that I can use.

Good luck.  Its been a great ride so far!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I like the style of writing here very much.  It reminds me of Automobile magazine under David E. Davis (maybe a little less snooty…hmmm).  Cars are not life; they are a part of life. Describing a car by listing statistics is about as illuminative as describing a meal by the carb and protein count.  I like the language here; I like the seat of the pants reactions.  I sincerely hope that does not change. I can get bland statistics anywhere; they are all over the place.  Insightful, honest impressions&#8230; that is more elusive.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I also read Consumer reports.  Though they are decidedly bland and pragmatic in their reviews, they will tell you what it might be like to actually live with a car for years.  I mix that info with an enthusiast&#8217;s site like this one, and BINGO!  Real information that I can use.</p>
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		<title>By: NN</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 14:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it hasn&#039;t been said already; real-world fuel economy figures and reliability figures would be good additions, as well--maybe linked from Mr. Karesh&#039;s site.</description>
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