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		<title>By: yoman</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/review-used-car-classic-vw-beetle/comment-page-2/#comment-1517779</link>
		<dc:creator>yoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have owned VW&#039;s all my life, and the damn car is simple! I have read many posts complaining about the heater and how it didn&#039;t work.. Seriously, are you fuckin lazy?? You cant fix a simple VW beetle, take it to a shop, jack it up and replace the heater tubes, buy an auxiliary heater and add a plug-in to your v-dub. What the article failed to mention was how many different styles of vw bugs there are, IE.. old school lowered with white walls, raked with a hopped up motor... The paint,wheels, and ride height contribute greatly to a beetles looks. Here&#039;s what your parents VW looked like http://webpageselling.com/images/1970_VW_BUG_002.jpg  

the vw&#039;s I drive look like this
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/pix/2720543.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I have owned VW&#8217;s all my life, and the damn car is simple! I have read many posts complaining about the heater and how it didn&#8217;t work.. Seriously, are you fuckin lazy?? You cant fix a simple VW beetle, take it to a shop, jack it up and replace the heater tubes, buy an auxiliary heater and add a plug-in to your v-dub. What the article failed to mention was how many different styles of vw bugs there are, IE.. old school lowered with white walls, raked with a hopped up motor&#8230; The paint,wheels, and ride height contribute greatly to a beetles looks. Here&#8217;s what your parents VW looked like <a href="http://webpageselling.com/images/1970_VW_BUG_002.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://webpageselling.com/images/1970_VW_BUG_002.jpg</a>  </p>
<p>the vw&#8217;s I drive look like this<br />
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		<title>By: gibbleth</title>
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		<dc:creator>gibbleth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 08:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My dad owned several Beetles.  While he runs to the Mercedes line of thought, the Beetle was a good car for African and Pakistani roads, where six able-bodied men could lift the body off the frame.  The saying in Africa was that a Mercedes was worth three Beetles in terms of longevity, and they were priced accordingly.

My only other experience with a Beetle was in shop in highschool where some enterprising idiot had installed a Porsche engine in a Beetle and blown a head.  The car drove in on the other three cylinders leaking oil like crazy.

The shop supervisor and I took the cooling shroud off the engine without removing the engine.  After about eight hours of work, with the very last piece off, some Beetle nut mentioned the fact that the engine comes right out, shroud and all, and then the shroud is very easy to take off.  Kinda like Subaru, another Boxer, the Beetle ends up being something that drives normal car guys to distraction.

And yes, I have fond memories of the padded area behind the seats, but much fonder memories of the back end of an Estate Wagon (when my parents moved back to MI) with the rear seats folded down where I could play with my Hot Wheels in all that space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->My dad owned several Beetles.  While he runs to the Mercedes line of thought, the Beetle was a good car for African and Pakistani roads, where six able-bodied men could lift the body off the frame.  The saying in Africa was that a Mercedes was worth three Beetles in terms of longevity, and they were priced accordingly.</p>
<p>My only other experience with a Beetle was in shop in highschool where some enterprising idiot had installed a Porsche engine in a Beetle and blown a head.  The car drove in on the other three cylinders leaking oil like crazy.</p>
<p>The shop supervisor and I took the cooling shroud off the engine without removing the engine.  After about eight hours of work, with the very last piece off, some Beetle nut mentioned the fact that the engine comes right out, shroud and all, and then the shroud is very easy to take off.  Kinda like Subaru, another Boxer, the Beetle ends up being something that drives normal car guys to distraction.</p>
<p>And yes, I have fond memories of the padded area behind the seats, but much fonder memories of the back end of an Estate Wagon (when my parents moved back to MI) with the rear seats folded down where I could play with my Hot Wheels in all that space.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: blowfish</title>
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		<dc:creator>blowfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 02:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But the car was a terrifying experience to drive. It had a top speed of about 67 mph. At that time, trucks could legally do 70 on the freeway. When they blew past you, which they did all the time, the aerodynamic wake would push the Bug about 3 feet to the side. They didn’t handle very well, but they did not have the power to get into real trouble.

We had the same problem of get pushed away from the truck, especially worse in the Praire Canada.
Later on in 80 I bought one for the summer coming home to Van from school in Toronto. I have a fnd who cut a piece of plywood to mount it under the front bumper, it became an Air Dam, ground effect. Lo &amp; Behold driving across Trans Canada Autobahn was nothing, it create a small vacuum under the front wheel, the traction was exceptional. Onetime we drove on 401 pinned the speedo too at 90 MPH i am sure is not correct.

Also bought one of those elec fan from JC Whitney 2nd hand, it gave continous air so it doesnt fog up during winter. The air rely from the engine fan was too intermittent u get lots during throttle but soon as u stopped on red light the hot air died.
None the less it deliver the goods for any needy students at the time.
Told my fnd the heater box does leak exhaust every so often, I think in the end I had it welded together. My fnd reply as Fuhrer&#039;s revenge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->But the car was a terrifying experience to drive. It had a top speed of about 67 mph. At that time, trucks could legally do 70 on the freeway. When they blew past you, which they did all the time, the aerodynamic wake would push the Bug about 3 feet to the side. They didn’t handle very well, but they did not have the power to get into real trouble.</p>
<p>We had the same problem of get pushed away from the truck, especially worse in the Praire Canada.<br />
Later on in 80 I bought one for the summer coming home to Van from school in Toronto. I have a fnd who cut a piece of plywood to mount it under the front bumper, it became an Air Dam, ground effect. Lo &amp; Behold driving across Trans Canada Autobahn was nothing, it create a small vacuum under the front wheel, the traction was exceptional. Onetime we drove on 401 pinned the speedo too at 90 MPH i am sure is not correct.</p>
<p>Also bought one of those elec fan from JC Whitney 2nd hand, it gave continous air so it doesnt fog up during winter. The air rely from the engine fan was too intermittent u get lots during throttle but soon as u stopped on red light the hot air died.<br />
None the less it deliver the goods for any needy students at the time.<br />
Told my fnd the heater box does leak exhaust every so often, I think in the end I had it welded together. My fnd reply as Fuhrer&#8217;s revenge.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Nicodemus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicodemus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 03:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Argentia &lt;em&gt;&quot;It overheated in traffic (typical; the side-mounted radiator doesn’t get enough air at low speeds)&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

This typically only occurs on Minis when poorly trained mechanics install the fan blade back to front. Mini fans push air from under the bonnet (hood) to the wheel well. The can be and frequently are reversed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->@Argentia <em>&#8220;It overheated in traffic (typical; the side-mounted radiator doesn’t get enough air at low speeds)&#8221;</em></p>
<p>This typically only occurs on Minis when poorly trained mechanics install the fan blade back to front. Mini fans push air from under the bonnet (hood) to the wheel well. The can be and frequently are reversed.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: joeveto3</title>
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		<dc:creator>joeveto3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 17:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Best of all, the simplicity of driving the bug teaches you that you don’t have to go fast to have fun. So many cars now are so good at going fast, that you have to drive at excessive speeds just to enjoy them. They are too good for their own good. In the bug, you won’t win many races due to the lack of hp, but its hard not to have fun driving it.&lt;/i&gt;

Very well put.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><i>Best of all, the simplicity of driving the bug teaches you that you don’t have to go fast to have fun. So many cars now are so good at going fast, that you have to drive at excessive speeds just to enjoy them. They are too good for their own good. In the bug, you won’t win many races due to the lack of hp, but its hard not to have fun driving it.</i></p>
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		<title>By: joeveto3</title>
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		<dc:creator>joeveto3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 17:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll never understand comparing yesterday&#039;s cars to today&#039;s, as if they could ever satisfy today&#039;s expectations.

Just the same...

I recently purchased a 72 bug and kept it for a few months.  I found it to be, for the most part, very easy to work on, and a blast to drive.  Driving a car flat out, but still well within the law, is tremendous fun.  And I loved the car&#039;s simplicity, what could possibly go wrong?

What the eBay seller did not disclose in his ad, is what led to the blue Beetle&#039;s elimination from my life - cancerous rust that could only be addressed by a full body off -- something I would not undertake.  I actually smiled as the wrecker hauled the rotting carcass from my property.

I looked to purchase another Beetle, but ultimately, the heater channel issue and the crappy heating that goes along with it, changed my mind.  If you live in the southwest, I believe the Beetle could be a fun car.  But anywhere else, the car will disolve in front of you, after it leaves you cold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I&#8217;ll never understand comparing yesterday&#8217;s cars to today&#8217;s, as if they could ever satisfy today&#8217;s expectations.</p>
<p>Just the same&#8230;</p>
<p>I recently purchased a 72 bug and kept it for a few months.  I found it to be, for the most part, very easy to work on, and a blast to drive.  Driving a car flat out, but still well within the law, is tremendous fun.  And I loved the car&#8217;s simplicity, what could possibly go wrong?</p>
<p>What the eBay seller did not disclose in his ad, is what led to the blue Beetle&#8217;s elimination from my life &#8211; cancerous rust that could only be addressed by a full body off &#8212; something I would not undertake.  I actually smiled as the wrecker hauled the rotting carcass from my property.</p>
<p>I looked to purchase another Beetle, but ultimately, the heater channel issue and the crappy heating that goes along with it, changed my mind.  If you live in the southwest, I believe the Beetle could be a fun car.  But anywhere else, the car will disolve in front of you, after it leaves you cold.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: argentla</title>
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		<dc:creator>argentla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 01:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The original Mini was capable of lift-throttle oversteer if you were really driving like a maniac. (So are a fair number of 80s and 90s European hot hatches, for that matter, a trait that&#039;s being systematically exterminated.) 

The Mini was a highly entertaining car. Even a Cooper S wasn&#039;t particularly fast, but it had a kind of banzai spirit that was a lot of fun. It was like the friend you had when you were a kid who would talk you into mischief. A friend of mine had an early-60s example with a later, bored-out 1304 engine -- she called it Emmett. Emmett was well-suited to hell-for-leather driving, but, like all early Minis, it suffered the dilemma of having been built by Englishmen. It overheated in traffic (typical; the side-mounted radiator doesn&#039;t get enough air at low speeds), and a wide variety of interesting pieces fell off at inconvenient times. On one memorable occasion, that included the steering rack, which she did not find amusing. I told her, &quot;There&#039;s an old saying: If you give an Englishman a piece of metal, he will do something foolish with it.&quot; She wasn&#039;t amused by that, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The original Mini was capable of lift-throttle oversteer if you were really driving like a maniac. (So are a fair number of 80s and 90s European hot hatches, for that matter, a trait that&#8217;s being systematically exterminated.) </p>
<p>The Mini was a highly entertaining car. Even a Cooper S wasn&#8217;t particularly fast, but it had a kind of banzai spirit that was a lot of fun. It was like the friend you had when you were a kid who would talk you into mischief. A friend of mine had an early-60s example with a later, bored-out 1304 engine &#8212; she called it Emmett. Emmett was well-suited to hell-for-leather driving, but, like all early Minis, it suffered the dilemma of having been built by Englishmen. It overheated in traffic (typical; the side-mounted radiator doesn&#8217;t get enough air at low speeds), and a wide variety of interesting pieces fell off at inconvenient times. On one memorable occasion, that included the steering rack, which she did not find amusing. I told her, &#8220;There&#8217;s an old saying: If you give an Englishman a piece of metal, he will do something foolish with it.&#8221; She wasn&#8217;t amused by that, either.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: FromBrazil</title>
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		<dc:creator>FromBrazil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 01:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to be so late so I guess almost no one will see this, but it&#039;s an interesting take. Here in Brazil when I was 18 years old (about 20 years ago), Beetles were still in production. They were taxi cabs, old aunts had them. In short, they were still very much a part of life. And of course there were a plethora of used ones to be had. So as the magical 18 arrived, most likely candidates of cars for my friends and I were used Chevy Chevettes (like the ones that became Kadettes in Europe - 1 st generation), VW Brasilias and Beetles and Fiat 147s (in Europe 127), all out of production for a few years, so cheap for us (or our parents) to buy. Of course some were more fortunate, but these cars were the ones that had us talking for hours on their relative merits and problems. In short, had us dreaming. New cars were too expensive and older ones were too trouble prone.

Long story short, none, absolutely none of my friends dreamed of a Beetle. A Beetle would have benn the leat fashionable, the worst to get girls, and would easily be the slowest and, generally, the biggest letdown. If given as a present would be taken with a smile of course, but not, absolutely not, enjoyed. Beetles were for poor old men who knew no better!

Thankfully, none of us got a Beetle. I even lucked out as I was handed down my Dad&#039;s Fiat Uno 1.5 ethanol (a dream car confronted with the quartet mentioned above). So, Beetle, neh, never meant anything for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Sorry to be so late so I guess almost no one will see this, but it&#8217;s an interesting take. Here in Brazil when I was 18 years old (about 20 years ago), Beetles were still in production. They were taxi cabs, old aunts had them. In short, they were still very much a part of life. And of course there were a plethora of used ones to be had. So as the magical 18 arrived, most likely candidates of cars for my friends and I were used Chevy Chevettes (like the ones that became Kadettes in Europe &#8211; 1 st generation), VW Brasilias and Beetles and Fiat 147s (in Europe 127), all out of production for a few years, so cheap for us (or our parents) to buy. Of course some were more fortunate, but these cars were the ones that had us talking for hours on their relative merits and problems. In short, had us dreaming. New cars were too expensive and older ones were too trouble prone.</p>
<p>Long story short, none, absolutely none of my friends dreamed of a Beetle. A Beetle would have benn the leat fashionable, the worst to get girls, and would easily be the slowest and, generally, the biggest letdown. If given as a present would be taken with a smile of course, but not, absolutely not, enjoyed. Beetles were for poor old men who knew no better!</p>
<p>Thankfully, none of us got a Beetle. I even lucked out as I was handed down my Dad&#8217;s Fiat Uno 1.5 ethanol (a dream car confronted with the quartet mentioned above). So, Beetle, neh, never meant anything for me.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: RogerB34</title>
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		<dc:creator>RogerB34</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 00:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent car 50&#039;s and 60&#039;s but now dead. RIP</description>
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		<title>By: David Holzman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Holzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark MacInnis, 

Do you know if any of these guys are still around? I&#039;d love to interview them. Contact me at motorlegends@aol.com. Thanks! DAvid</description>
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<p>Do you know if any of these guys are still around? I&#8217;d love to interview them. Contact me at <a href="mailto:motorlegends@aol.com">motorlegends@aol.com</a>. Thanks! DAvid<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Mark MacInnis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark MacInnis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part of the charm of owning one of these machines was finding a guru, who knew, and would teach the neophyte, the finer points of Beetle care and maintenance.  These guys could always be found, and a more cantankerously lovable, more irascible set of rogues, you would never encounter.  These guys were fonts of wisdom about the Bug, but also, because the cars themselves had a sort of Zen quality about them, these guys could usually also be counted on for practical knowledge about life, liberty, the joys of the simple things in life, etc. while simultaneously explaining valve adjustments, oil changes, etc.  Most had good smoke, too, if you are receiving my drift.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Part of the charm of owning one of these machines was finding a guru, who knew, and would teach the neophyte, the finer points of Beetle care and maintenance.  These guys could always be found, and a more cantankerously lovable, more irascible set of rogues, you would never encounter.  These guys were fonts of wisdom about the Bug, but also, because the cars themselves had a sort of Zen quality about them, these guys could usually also be counted on for practical knowledge about life, liberty, the joys of the simple things in life, etc. while simultaneously explaining valve adjustments, oil changes, etc.  Most had good smoke, too, if you are receiving my drift.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: David Holzman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Holzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of the comments about how you could drive hell out of the thing without endangering everyone else on the road remind me of my &#039;77 Corolla 1.2 liter. I was always flooring it, but no-one noticed. I joked about getting a license plate that would say either &quot;redlinin&quot; or &quot;bad fun.&quot; There was a twisty-windy road that bridged a creek about 4 times in a high end part of DC near downtown, and I would try to launch the thing on those arched bridges, and occasionally caught just a little bit of air. I could easily squeeze in and out of DC traffic, and I remember one date complementing my driving abilities as I did. Nor did I scare any passengers, until I got the &#039;93 Saturn SL2 5-speed. Then I did scare people until I learned to ask them to ask me to drive &quot;momly&quot; if I was scaring them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Some of the comments about how you could drive hell out of the thing without endangering everyone else on the road remind me of my &#8216;77 Corolla 1.2 liter. I was always flooring it, but no-one noticed. I joked about getting a license plate that would say either &#8220;redlinin&#8221; or &#8220;bad fun.&#8221; There was a twisty-windy road that bridged a creek about 4 times in a high end part of DC near downtown, and I would try to launch the thing on those arched bridges, and occasionally caught just a little bit of air. I could easily squeeze in and out of DC traffic, and I remember one date complementing my driving abilities as I did. Nor did I scare any passengers, until I got the &#8216;93 Saturn SL2 5-speed. Then I did scare people until I learned to ask them to ask me to drive &#8220;momly&#8221; if I was scaring them.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: dadude53</title>
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		<dc:creator>dadude53</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@rtz:
Aside from other watercooled vehicles our family always had a selection of 911&#039;s(aircooled) and VW&#039;s over the past 40 years.The last new VW we purchased was a 2003 last edition Bug Sedan.In comparison and  in retrospect I can say that the aircooled engines need far less maintenance than their watercooled companions.
Simply due to the fact that they have less components.To continue with the VW, as long as the engine has oil and receives fuel it will basically run.
Depending on the year of the engine you need to adjust the valves every 10k miles,change oil every 3k miles.Spark plugs and points every 25k miles-assuming the ignition timing is checked every 10k miles.The latest Digifant injection engines require even less as they already have hydro-lifters and full electronic ignition.

Again it is a vast difference if you bought a new one or as posted so many times here, old heaps that have been worked on by an indefinite number of people.Not the skilled or properly self trainer person is the problem, it&#039;s the morons that think they can do it all and brag about how they  set the ignition timing simply by listening to the change of rpm when they rotated the distributor on a running engine.

So if you get one today, look for an original well kept and maintained vehicle.Pay the extra Dollars and you will end up with a fine trouble free set of wheels that will keep you motoring for years to come.</description>
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Aside from other watercooled vehicles our family always had a selection of 911&#8217;s(aircooled) and VW&#8217;s over the past 40 years.The last new VW we purchased was a 2003 last edition Bug Sedan.In comparison and  in retrospect I can say that the aircooled engines need far less maintenance than their watercooled companions.<br />
Simply due to the fact that they have less components.To continue with the VW, as long as the engine has oil and receives fuel it will basically run.<br />
Depending on the year of the engine you need to adjust the valves every 10k miles,change oil every 3k miles.Spark plugs and points every 25k miles-assuming the ignition timing is checked every 10k miles.The latest Digifant injection engines require even less as they already have hydro-lifters and full electronic ignition.</p>
<p>Again it is a vast difference if you bought a new one or as posted so many times here, old heaps that have been worked on by an indefinite number of people.Not the skilled or properly self trainer person is the problem, it&#8217;s the morons that think they can do it all and brag about how they  set the ignition timing simply by listening to the change of rpm when they rotated the distributor on a running engine.</p>
<p>So if you get one today, look for an original well kept and maintained vehicle.Pay the extra Dollars and you will end up with a fine trouble free set of wheels that will keep you motoring for years to come.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Johnster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 03:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for lesson on how the gas heater worked, dadude53!</description>
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		<title>By: ruckover</title>
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		<dc:creator>ruckover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 03:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I owned three of these, and I loved the things.  They were cheap enough for me to drive and afford grad school, and they were slow enough that I could drive the snot out of them and no one noticed.  While I agree with all the comments about the lack of heat (and I lived in Michigan and Wisconsin), they were amazingly good in the snow. What little weight they had was over the drive wheels, and the front wheels were free to do what God wants front wheels to do--steer.  In winter, I could even imagine myself a real driver by using snow induced oversteer to play boy-racer.  The real drawback to winter driving was having to reach through the driver&#039;s side window to reach around and rub a clear spot on the windshield.   I often felt as if I was driving while looking through a periscope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I owned three of these, and I loved the things.  They were cheap enough for me to drive and afford grad school, and they were slow enough that I could drive the snot out of them and no one noticed.  While I agree with all the comments about the lack of heat (and I lived in Michigan and Wisconsin), they were amazingly good in the snow. What little weight they had was over the drive wheels, and the front wheels were free to do what God wants front wheels to do&#8211;steer.  In winter, I could even imagine myself a real driver by using snow induced oversteer to play boy-racer.  The real drawback to winter driving was having to reach through the driver&#8217;s side window to reach around and rub a clear spot on the windshield.   I often felt as if I was driving while looking through a periscope.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: rtz</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 01:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The air cooled nature has always appealed to me for the simplicity of it and the reduced maintenance.  In real life though; how maintenance intensive are these cars?  Who drove one for years or decades?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The air cooled nature has always appealed to me for the simplicity of it and the reduced maintenance.  In real life though; how maintenance intensive are these cars?  Who drove one for years or decades?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Andy D</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, David. I was raised in  a  bug family. My father bought a 54 in 1957 when the train to Greenbush stopped running. I  got  my license driving a 65 bus. I drove  bugs  exclusively for  nearly 20 yrs.  My wife was one  of the last people to make it  down 128  during  the blizzard  of   78. She  was driving a 66 Bug. 
 I drove a  bug 25 miles on a flat front tire, it  handled   just  fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Great article, David. I was raised in  a  bug family. My father bought a 54 in 1957 when the train to Greenbush stopped running. I  got  my license driving a 65 bus. I drove  bugs  exclusively for  nearly 20 yrs.  My wife was one  of the last people to make it  down 128  during  the blizzard  of   78. She  was driving a 66 Bug.<br />
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		<title>By: dadude53</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Johnster :
Auxillary heater:How did you turn it on? Did it have a separate electric starter? A pilot light?

A simple push/pull switch operated a pilot light and supplied current to the blower motor.The fresh air blower supplied heating air and the impeller combustion air.The fuel pump supplied metered fuel to the combustion chamber. The combustion air was preheated by a glow plug and ignited by a spark plug.An ignition coil provided the higher voltage.The combusted gases flew through the heat exchanger thus heating up the thermoswitch which turned after about 45s the glow plug off. From there on the combustion process continued to run on its own( assisted by the high voltage ignition)
That`s pretty much it.</description>
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Auxillary heater:How did you turn it on? Did it have a separate electric starter? A pilot light?</p>
<p>A simple push/pull switch operated a pilot light and supplied current to the blower motor.The fresh air blower supplied heating air and the impeller combustion air.The fuel pump supplied metered fuel to the combustion chamber. The combustion air was preheated by a glow plug and ignited by a spark plug.An ignition coil provided the higher voltage.The combusted gases flew through the heat exchanger thus heating up the thermoswitch which turned after about 45s the glow plug off. From there on the combustion process continued to run on its own( assisted by the high voltage ignition)<br />
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		<title>By: cstoc</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;The car was so tightly constructed that you had to open a window to close the door.&quot;&gt;
This &quot;feature&quot; only showed that there was no ventilation system.  Other cars, even then, had exhaust vents so that air would flow into the car when the front vents were opened.  Another car with no exhaust vents was the Ford Pinto.  My cousin had one and you could open the front air vents and feel no air until you cracked a window.  I don&#039;t remember that anybody thought that was a sign of build quality.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
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<blockquote cite="The car was so tightly constructed that you had to open a window to close the door.">
This &#8220;feature&#8221; only showed that there was no ventilation system.  Other cars, even then, had exhaust vents so that air would flow into the car when the front vents were opened.  Another car with no exhaust vents was the Ford Pinto.  My cousin had one and you could open the front air vents and feel no air until you cracked a window.  I don&#8217;t remember that anybody thought that was a sign of build quality.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Johnster</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;dadude53 : @Johnster :The auxillary heater supplied by either Eberspaecher in Germany or Steward Warner in the US and installed by the VW dealer was a gas powered heater that was located in the front trunk compartement.It was connected via a separate fuel pump to the tank of the vehicle and the exhaust fumes left the heater through the left front wheel well.The hot air was blown into the passenger compartement through another opening in the front foot well.It was controlled through a timer, just like todays units, that allowed preheating the passenger compartement.
See;http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/bn2_installation_12_1976/bug1.jpg&lt;/em&gt;

Thanks, for the explanation.  A couple of more questions.  How did you turn it on?  Did it have a separate electric starter?  A pilot light?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>dadude53 : @Johnster :The auxillary heater supplied by either Eberspaecher in Germany or Steward Warner in the US and installed by the VW dealer was a gas powered heater that was located in the front trunk compartement.It was connected via a separate fuel pump to the tank of the vehicle and the exhaust fumes left the heater through the left front wheel well.The hot air was blown into the passenger compartement through another opening in the front foot well.It was controlled through a timer, just like todays units, that allowed preheating the passenger compartement.<br />
See;http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/bn2_installation_12_1976/bug1.jpg</em></p>
<p>Thanks, for the explanation.  A couple of more questions.  How did you turn it on?  Did it have a separate electric starter?  A pilot light?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: johnsonc</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had 2 Beetles.  Got the 1st one, a &#039;64, in &#039;82 for $300.  Needed a valve job, all of $150 and it ran great except when the temp dropped at night below 10 degrees.  Had to bring the 6 volt battery inside or it wouldn&#039;t have enough crank.  Sunroof was great even with broken crank(they often did) - I couldn&#039;t lock myself out of it.  Just slid it back and forth with my hand.  Even the heater core worked. The wipers were rather ineffectual in snow, though.  Verrryyy sloooowww.   When the snow built up too much on the windshield you could just reach out every now and then with a 3&#039; brush and clear the windshield while you were driving.  One night the headlights started going dim and were basically out by the time I got home.  Next day, 5 minutes and $20 for a new voltage regulator and it was fixed.
Next one was a &quot;73 Super I bought the next year.  Ran perfectly and regret selling it 4 years later.  The lure of a vehicle with air conditioning was just too strong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Had 2 Beetles.  Got the 1st one, a &#8216;64, in &#8216;82 for $300.  Needed a valve job, all of $150 and it ran great except when the temp dropped at night below 10 degrees.  Had to bring the 6 volt battery inside or it wouldn&#8217;t have enough crank.  Sunroof was great even with broken crank(they often did) &#8211; I couldn&#8217;t lock myself out of it.  Just slid it back and forth with my hand.  Even the heater core worked. The wipers were rather ineffectual in snow, though.  Verrryyy sloooowww.   When the snow built up too much on the windshield you could just reach out every now and then with a 3&#8242; brush and clear the windshield while you were driving.  One night the headlights started going dim and were basically out by the time I got home.  Next day, 5 minutes and $20 for a new voltage regulator and it was fixed.<br />
Next one was a &#8220;73 Super I bought the next year.  Ran perfectly and regret selling it 4 years later.  The lure of a vehicle with air conditioning was just too strong.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: davey49</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BEAT- I think that only happens if you install the incorrect battery and its too big for the compartment or doesn&#039;t have proper venting. It could happen to my car too with its battery in the trunk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->BEAT- I think that only happens if you install the incorrect battery and its too big for the compartment or doesn&#8217;t have proper venting. It could happen to my car too with its battery in the trunk.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: BEAT</title>
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		<dc:creator>BEAT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with Old VW Bug was the battery catches FIRE and is located under the seat.</description>
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		<title>By: dadude53</title>
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		<dc:creator>dadude53</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@tonycd :

The &quot;wheelbase difference&quot; between a Standard and a Super Beetle (20mm) contributed to an increased luggage compartement and not to a &quot;further away&quot; windshield. The reason why the windshield is a) more bonded and b) further away from `73-`75  is because the car got a different cowl and &quot;firewall&quot; resulting in a shorter hood and slightly longer roof.
The &quot;Autostick&quot; you described was a manual transmission with an automatically operated clutch.The  low, low gear you described indeed was the gear acutally reserved strictly for driving up steep hills/ downhill using the max engine brake power.Max acceleration if that terminology can be used with this setup only was achieved with driving range 1.Sometimes reading the manual before operating a vehicle does help though.
About long shift delays:
It also was mandatory to keep your hand off the shift lever once you shifted as any movement was detected by the clutch sensor and the selected gear would not engage until such was achieved.
Again everything in the operators manual. 

The fuel tank in the front was a much dicussed item, but never let to any crash test failures.Note, all 911 and rear/mid engine Porsches until this day have the fuel tank in front.

And as usual if nothing else works with the VW one tries to play the &quot;Nazi&quot; card. Well, there even are Volkswagen clubs in Israel.Go figure</description>
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<p>The &#8220;wheelbase difference&#8221; between a Standard and a Super Beetle (20mm) contributed to an increased luggage compartement and not to a &#8220;further away&#8221; windshield. The reason why the windshield is a) more bonded and b) further away from `73-`75  is because the car got a different cowl and &#8220;firewall&#8221; resulting in a shorter hood and slightly longer roof.<br />
The &#8220;Autostick&#8221; you described was a manual transmission with an automatically operated clutch.The  low, low gear you described indeed was the gear acutally reserved strictly for driving up steep hills/ downhill using the max engine brake power.Max acceleration if that terminology can be used with this setup only was achieved with driving range 1.Sometimes reading the manual before operating a vehicle does help though.<br />
About long shift delays:<br />
It also was mandatory to keep your hand off the shift lever once you shifted as any movement was detected by the clutch sensor and the selected gear would not engage until such was achieved.<br />
Again everything in the operators manual. </p>
<p>The fuel tank in the front was a much dicussed item, but never let to any crash test failures.Note, all 911 and rear/mid engine Porsches until this day have the fuel tank in front.</p>
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		<title>By: tonycd</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, nice review.

My college-age sister bought a Super Beetle as her first car in the &#039;70s. We tried to talk her into a Corolla or Datsun, but she wasn&#039;t listening - she considered the VW &quot;cute,&quot; and gave it a first name. Later on, she would pre-emptively snap before we could say a word that yes, she knew her choice had been a mistake.

I drove the car several times. It had the infamous clutchless manual. I started trying to use the low-low-low first gear just to get a little snap off the line, but it was so low that you had to shift out of it at about 10-15 mph anyway, and the time needed to make the shift itself offset any gains. Everything else about the car was as others have described it here, except that the extra wheelbase of the &quot;Super&quot; version got the windshield away from your face a little. It was so underpowered that you couldn&#039;t maintain a steady speed on the highway, constantly surging and then falling back.

Around the same time, I borrowed my older sister&#039;s Sedan De Ville with the 472-cubic-inch V8. I was astonished to discover that my entire on-road personality got a transplant, from paranoid to imperious. From behind its Queen Mary prow, I practically felt like daring other motorists to let me hit them. Being an inexperienced driver and used to the VW, I was surprised by this. It was actually a pretty educational experience.

My sister did get one compensation from owning the Veedub: I wrote a speech for her speech class, humorously castigating the car as unsafe. (Let&#039;s not forget the gas tank in your lap here.) The money shot: &quot;From the man who brought you Auschwitz.&quot; She reported that the few smartest people in the class laughed heartily. She got an A, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I agree, nice review.</p>
<p>My college-age sister bought a Super Beetle as her first car in the &#8217;70s. We tried to talk her into a Corolla or Datsun, but she wasn&#8217;t listening &#8211; she considered the VW &#8220;cute,&#8221; and gave it a first name. Later on, she would pre-emptively snap before we could say a word that yes, she knew her choice had been a mistake.</p>
<p>I drove the car several times. It had the infamous clutchless manual. I started trying to use the low-low-low first gear just to get a little snap off the line, but it was so low that you had to shift out of it at about 10-15 mph anyway, and the time needed to make the shift itself offset any gains. Everything else about the car was as others have described it here, except that the extra wheelbase of the &#8220;Super&#8221; version got the windshield away from your face a little. It was so underpowered that you couldn&#8217;t maintain a steady speed on the highway, constantly surging and then falling back.</p>
<p>Around the same time, I borrowed my older sister&#8217;s Sedan De Ville with the 472-cubic-inch V8. I was astonished to discover that my entire on-road personality got a transplant, from paranoid to imperious. From behind its Queen Mary prow, I practically felt like daring other motorists to let me hit them. Being an inexperienced driver and used to the VW, I was surprised by this. It was actually a pretty educational experience.</p>
<p>My sister did get one compensation from owning the Veedub: I wrote a speech for her speech class, humorously castigating the car as unsafe. (Let&#8217;s not forget the gas tank in your lap here.) The money shot: &#8220;From the man who brought you Auschwitz.&#8221; She reported that the few smartest people in the class laughed heartily. She got an A, I think.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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