Less than a generation ago, speed was the name of the game. Hands-on automotive enthusiasts would swap their car’s two-barrel carb for a four, replace the manifold, straighten the exhaust, anything and everything to make their ride go faster (at least in a straight line). Even the mechanically ignorant knew that power equaled status, whether under-hood or at their fingertips (windows!). These days, consumption is no longer a disease—it’s an addiction. Where once we laughed watching my buddy Artie’s ’69 Camaro’s fuel needle fall, the new Honda Insight has a needle showing me how much fuel I’m saving. It’s not a very clever insight, but the Insight is a very clever car.
At first glance, the Insight reveals itself as the Prius’ fraternal twin. The flattering imitation separates the Insight from its dopey looking predecessor, and places the new car squarely on the Toyotagas – electric coattails. The Insight’s shape is pleasing, like a large juicer. It’s just not stirring. The Insight gets a bonus star for being a five-door, the practicality of which seems lost on my native country. It won’t be lost on the Insightful.
Who cares? The car’s raison d’être lies underneath the skin. Thin skin. While the Insight’s not as tinny as I’d expected, a word to the wise: don’t crouch behind the car when the shooting starts. What insulation I saw—looking around the spare tire—felt too light to exist. Of course, it’s all part of the mission: do less with less.
To that end, the Insight comes with a bigger version of the powerplant than the one powering the original, two-seat Insight. Honda’s Integrated Motor Assist (IMA) hybrid system is an 88 horsepower 1.3-liter four-cylinder gas engine with a 13 hp electric sidekick, served by a nickel-metal hydride battery pack. The electric motor powers the Insight up to 30 mph without any help. The engine turns off sometimes (e.g., when you’re looking for a parking spot, obeying the school zone speed limit or stuck at a light), but the engine’s shaft doesn’t cease so it’s not as disconcerting as it sounds.
The IMA’s performance is remarkable not for traditional thrills—the ’83 Civic was more fun to drive—but the ho-humness of the whole thing. The 2010 Honda Insight EX’s power comes on slowly and smoothly like an economy car. It’s not dangerously slow; there’s just no entertainment value. It’s not like you can downshift, spool up and goose the little bastard.
The Insight’s continuously variable transmission bars you from any thrill search. I’m pretty sure they sourced it from a dentist drill supplier. The sound alone dissuades you from hard acceleration. The Formula 1 style “gear-changers” on the EX’s steering wheel don’t help. How could they? It’s a CVT. I’m still trying to figure that part out. Anyway, the gear-changers are like flippers on a runway model. Like paddles on a submarine. I can’t . . . never mind. They’re only on the EX. Pretend they’re decorations.
The Insight’s ride was firm but not harsh and actually kind of tight. Up and down a few ramps I started wondering what the car would be like if we popped off the low rolling resistant tires and put some decent skins on the puppy. The response and roll hinted that the chassis was capable of much more than the rest of the car would ever allow.
Like the brakes for instance: antilock with electronic force distribution. The regenerative system stops the car well enough sending energy back to your batteries where it can do some good. But the system creates an odd drag and crusty feel that, again, dispirits the Transporter within. For regular old driving, though, no one’s going to complain.
Because they’re going to be paying attention to other things. You can see the 2010 Honda Insight EX’s owners paradise by dashboard lights. A digital speedometer sits center, in a halo, the shade of which tells you whether you’re driving like an Earth-loving angel or the speed-demon you’ve always been. The Insight provides its namesake in the form of graphs and charts you can scroll through to see your average miles per gallon, battery power, time until oil change, life, hit points and number of sparkly gems you’ve picked up on your journey.
It’s not a video game and I don’t mean to reduce the effect which is optimization of your car’s performance, something my buddies and I used to spend a lot of time doing. The measure’s just different. MPG over quarter mile time. An arguably more noble pursuit. Safer, too, the way Honda does it. The colors give you feedback without distraction. Brilliant.
Combined with the Insight’s Eco button—a kind of anti-Nitrous switch that puts the car into super conserve mode—the gauges and lights serve as new substitutes for a gear shift and tons of torque. It helps make you a more controlled, responsive driver . . . in terms of economy. I averaged 37 mpg. I know I can do better. It’s a different game and the Insight is pretty damn good at it. Toyota’s a playa. And, now, so is Honda.
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I actually found the paddle shifters to be a nice add. I didn’t get to play with them a lot, but it is nice having some control over the car. Plus, they give you 7 “gears” to choose from.
Something you might want to look into, which the Honda salesman informed me of, you have to pay for the floor mats. Yeah, not included in the price of the car.
The shape is actually not an imitation of the Prius. Both copy the aerodynamics invented by a German engineer in the 1930s. The Audi A2 also has this shape and the version with the smaller engine (a 1.2 liter (I think) 3cyl diesel) is reported to get 78 mpg.
I hope that was 37 city because I get 34 hwy consistently on my 08 Civic Si without really trying and it’s at least a bajillion more times fun to drive.
“The Insight gets a bonus star for being a five-door, the practicality of which seems lost on my native country.”
Hatchbacks in general, and the 5-door variety in particular, haven’t been well-received by Americans in the past. They were regarded as basic econo-boxes by most.
All it took to change that perception was to market them as “upscale” or sporty models. The Mazda3 5-door is a perfect example…it looks better than it’s sedan counterpart and is only sold in “s” trim level.
Back to the Insight, though…
I think it qualifies as the most unattractive car Honda has ever sold here. And the plastic wheel covers on the entry-level model make it look very cheap!
My 05 xB gets 31 city, and carries 5 real adults inside. I’ll pass on the Honda techno-twin and stick with cheap low-tech.
That’s a 4 star review? Huh. Reads pretty mediocre to me.
Also, I’m shocked (not) to hear about another Honda chassis let down by the tires. That one’s been going on for about 20 years now.
What exactly is the point of this car? The Prius is better…and something tells me most Prius/Insight buyers aren’t so concerned about the money or they’d just get a Corolla or Civic. And The Civic Hybrid gets better mileage than this thing and doesn’t look even half as dorky.
Guess the world changes. I used to love my Hondas 10-15 years ago. These new ones do NOTHING for me.
Will cars that have been traditionally lusted after as “fun to drive”–with large V6s and V8s, with even more HP–become memories of a fondly remembered nostalgic era, like we picture the 1950s or 1960s today?
Sadly though, the process of buying cars likely won’t evolve. You will still have to go through a franchised retail dealer outlet to acquire your prized possession–haggling over every dollar of dealer mark up, PDI, freight, dealer prep, ridiculous markup on silly accessories like floor mats, and so forth. Many writers try to defend this system, saying nonsense like your car is the second largest purchase you’ll ever make, like a house. Except that houses aren’t mass produced in millions of units. That’s a topic for another set of articles I’d love to see on TTAC.
I’d love to buy an Insight, but refuse to put myself through the Honda dealership experience (or any other current manufacturer’s dealership experience). My last new car was an ‘01 Prius when they first came out–bought over the internet at a set price. Toyota didn’t keep that option for long…within a couple of months it was back to the old dealer system. Yeah, I probably overpaid since I was an early adopter but I got to avoid the whole unpleasant dealership experience.
Was it fun to drive? Well, compared to what? I think our whole notion of what constitutes a great car is changing radically and quickly. Fluctuating gas prices will keep large, heavy, overpowered cars/trucks/SUVs/CUVs/whatevers desirable for a while. North Americans will have to catch up with the reality of world gas prices and smaller cars, unless car technology improves radically to build large but light, safe, and economical vehicles.
Until then, we will buy Insights and Prius. Those of us old enough will reminisce about the good old days of 270 hp V6 Accords and Camrys, Dodge Caravans with 4.0 liter, 255 hp V6s (that’s 245 cubic inches, almost as much as a 5.0 liter/305 ci V8 from the olden days…)
Future buyers likely will care less about just HP ratings. I think the perception of “fun to drive” depends on what you grew up with. Like Mr. Martineck says, it’s a different game now.
If we’re REALLY lucky, the whole GM/Chrysler bankruptcy mess might also force changes to the buying experience. But I’m not betting my gas money on it.
it’s just so ugly and ungainly, the new Prius looks so much better.
i’d take the Fusion over this, although i dont know if i’ll be giving up my diet of 6 cylinder cars any time soon
This car makes me wonder once again if Honda has screwed up their hybrid offering. It’s like a truly efficient hybrid is some mysterious thing to them – and yet Ford can make a Fusion get almost the same mileage (41/36 v 40/43) as this thing, and you get room for five adults and the stupid mileage graphics as well with a suspension and tire set up that doesn’t feel like it will give out going around a corner at 10 mph (although I still wouldn’t call it fun – let’s just say one of the more pleasureable hybrids to drive)… and I haven’t even made it to the Prius yet…
I realize that the Fusion is about $6k more and the Prius about $4k – but you are getting what I perceive as substantially better vehicles for those prices.
I suppose if you want a low-price-point, small hybrid that says “I’m green too!” then fine, this seems to work. I suppose if you are a Honda loyalist, then that’s fine too. But I’m out of reasons and those first two really weren’t that good.
A lightly-optioned Jetta TDI with the DSG transmission ends up being about $1000 more than the Insight EX I built on Honda’s website.
I think that would be $1000 well spent.
I like it better than the Prius or the Fit. In fact, the Fit is rather ugly, and the Prius is a bit ugly, too. In fact, I think if you take all the family sedans out there, and grade them 1-100, this one is in the 80s. True, there is nothing about this car to match the beauty of a ‘64 Chevy, or ‘64 Buick. But for today’s world, it’s not bad. The only thing I don’t like about it is that damn fish mouth.
Looks like the review I’ve been working on will be a Take Two. A preview: I found little to like about this car, especially considering the innovation Honda used to be known for. Many cars are simply boring to drive. This one I couldn’t wait to get out of.
I don’t expect everyone to share my opinion, and Honda appears to be having some luck finding customers. Hopefully we’ll have some real-world fuel economy data at TrueDelta soon. Our real-world gas mileage survey:
http://www.truedelta.com/fuel_economy.php
Insight owners are also encouraged to participate in our reliability survey, so we can provide some initial reliability stats ASAP. One early owner recently emailed me about some electical problems with the Insight. He didn’t know about the 2010 Prius when he bought the car, and now wishes he had waited. Hopefully his experience is not typical.
Based on early reviews from other sources, it seems like the Prius feels like a higher quality vehicle, but the price gap is what is killing the Prius in most reviews. I have been seeing speculation that Toyota will be dropping the price of the 2010 Prius before it hits dealer lots or very shortly there after. As reported here and other places another cheap hybrid is in the works from TMC. They better get it here quick.
This car makes me wonder once again if Honda has screwed up their hybrid offering. It’s like a truly efficient hybrid is some mysterious thing to them
From Edmunds review:
“But Honda wants the 2010 Insight to be affordable enough for almost anyone. And it wants the Insight to be the kind of hybrid that provides measureable benefits without introducing day-to-day eccentricities. To these ends, Honda has not developed an all-new hybrid system with dual electric motors and a complex series-parallel arrangement, like a Prius.
Instead, Honda has stuck to an approach that has worked for its hybrid cars before: Integrated Motor Assist (IMA), a simple system consisting of an efficient gasoline engine, a conventional continuously variable transmission (CVT) and a thin, brushless electric motor sandwiched between the two. The battery pack is of the tried-and-true nickel-metal hydride (NiMH) variety.”
Honda certainly could develop hybrid technology similar to what Toyota and Ford have. I don’t think they’re suffering from lack of good engineers. They just bet on a different horse – they assume that people would buy a cheaper hybrid over a more expensive one, especially since you won’t ever save enough dough on gas money to justify any hybrid car. It makes sense too – why buy a Ford Fusion hybrid for 6 grand more and get a negligible mpg boost?
The shape is actually not an imitation of the Prius. Both copy the aerodynamics invented by a German engineer in the 1930s
True. Its name was Wunibald Kamm
http://images.google.es/images?hl=es&q=%22Wunibald%20Kamm%22&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
This is the most efficient shape for a car. If you google “Kammback” you will see that this shape is nothing new:
http://images.google.es/images?q=Kammback&btnG=Buscar+im%C3%A1genes&hl=es&um=1&sa=2
In my eyes, this shape it has the incomparable beauty of the functional.
They just bet on a different horse – they assume that people would buy a cheaper hybrid over a more expensive one
The Prius is a Macintosh. The Insight is a PC.
A digital speedometer sits center
Why they do that?. Ergonomics dictate that instruments should be in front of the driver.
I averaged 37 mpg
I average 45 mpg (US) with my Toyota Avensis Diesel. City+Road+Freeway. Real paper and pencil calculations, not the optimistic on board computer.
It is quite interesting: In some circumstances the way you drive can do more for your mpg than your car.
Honda’s floor mat not included game is so old its crusty. At the end of the buying process after all is said and done, you just say throw in the floor mats or I walk. I don’t know why they think they can catch anybody paying for those things.
The engineering is impressive, but the styling makes the Prius look good by comparison. And the Prius is extremely ugly. But YMMV. Some people like that look.
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Are those US gallons, or UK gallons? Makes a big difference.
Back in the 1980’s I tired to buy a Honda Accord for sticker price and was told no deal. They had added $2000 worth of paint and fabric protection to the sticker which I refused to fall for.
Is it just me or do others find Honda owners annoying?
Financially speaking, I don’t see the sense in high-mpg setups like this, or VW’s TDI, unless gas is about twice as much as it is right now, and stays at that level.
For this reason, hybrids will be a niche product unless a permanent change in fuel prices occurs.
This car is SO ugly it’s sinful. Mileage or not, this insanity has to stop – there’s no reason to ruin a car in the name of squeezing out a few MPG. That’s like accepting a retarded girlfriend for her birthing hips. Just plain stupid.
I think I’d rather have the 69′ Camaro instead. My definition of fun is (and always be) humiliating teenagers stop light to stop light in my Impala SS. Until kids learn that giant spoilers and coffee can sized exhausts don’t make cars fast it’ll be open season year round. If gas cost 10 bucks a gallon it’d still be worth every penny.
Honda upps the ante and they did it without my tax dollars. Good for them. And I bet it doesn’t cost 48K either.
But it’s worth noting that unlike the original insight the EX model gives customers what they want, two more seats in back. This was done without consulting the Sierra club or eco groups with input from government car czars and task forces on presidential auto makers(or something like that)
Expect the transplants to make cars we want in the future and the government makers to turn out cars we don’t want.
“Combined with the Insight’s Eco button—a kind of anti-Nitrous switch that puts the car into super conserve mode—the gauges and lights serve as new substitutes for a gear shift and tons of torque. It helps make you a more controlled, responsive driver . . . in terms of economy.”
Sounds great…Sigh.
The Formula 1 style “gear-changers” on the EX’s steering wheel don’t help. How could they? It’s a CVT. I’m still trying to figure that part out.
That’s actually a really good question. A stepped CVT is stupid: you’re giving up the whole point of a CVT (being able to pick an optimum ratio from a range, rather than fixed set of four to eight gears). I’ve driven a few Nissan CVTs recently and I really like the lack of thumping up- and downshifts. Automatic transmissions creep me out; they feel like there’s something wrong with them.
The Insight’s shape is pleasing, like a large juicer. It’s just not stirring. The Insight gets a bonus star for being a five-door, the practicality of which seems lost on my native country. It won’t be lost on the Insightful.
There’s two reasons for this:
* One, it’s a good shape for aerodynamics. Saabs used to be shaped like this for the same reason.
* Two, if the Prius proved anything, it’s that people who buy hybrids en masse don’t quite fit into the same demographic as Camry/F-150 buyers: they will tolerate, if not outright seek, a different-looking car.**
* Three is simple packaging: if you want space for four people and a reasonable amount of stuff in as small a footprint as possible, a sedan or tall crossover is not the way to do so.
Going on and on about how Priuses and Insights are ugly is kind of pointless. The only people who do have serious objections find, say, the Camaro and Challenger attractive, are willing to sacrifice a useful trunk opening for a swoopy profile, don’t care that most people hate two-doors, think GM did a good thing by butch-nosing their minivans and—this is important—wouldn’t buy a hybrid anyway.
** Ergo, GM should have been making hybrid Saabs, but that’s a long-time sore point with me and one I won’t pick at here.
37mpg? That’s it?
I hope that was 100% city driving, because my old 05 Civic (manual, of course) averaged a healthy 35mpg city and flirted with both sides of the 50mpg high-water mark on long highway runs.
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Are those US gallons, or UK gallons? Makes a big difference.
US gallons. I just converted from my pen-and-paper calculated 5 liters per 100 km.
My “Made in England” onboard computer says (optimistically) that I am doing 59.6 mpg (Imperial gallons)/ 4.7 liters per 100 km.
I do not hypermile. I just drive slowly and smoothly.
A is A: Why they do that?. Ergonomics dictate that instruments should be in front of the driver.
No, they don’t. Tradition dictates that, much like tradition dictates the QWERTY keyboard layout.
Ergonomics dictates that instruments should be HUDs, but as that’s not practical, the best position is as far away from the driver without being illegible, and as few degrees from the road focus. This way the driver doesn’t need to glance away from the road and refocus.
RobertSD: This car makes me wonder once again if Honda has screwed up their hybrid offering. It’s like a truly efficient hybrid is some mysterious thing to them – and yet Ford can make a Fusion get almost the same mileage (41/36 v 40/43) as this thing,
I’d be interested to know if that holds up in real life. Honda’s hybrid system hasn’t always been up to snuff (it’s a mild-hybrid system, much less sophisticated than Toyota/Ford) but the the Insight is smaller, lighter and sleeker than the Fusion. I’d be surprised if real-world urban-cycle didn’t favour the Honda.
The momment my buddy and I sat in one of these and saw the cheap wheel covers, the laughable mail slot rear window that you litterally can’t see out the back, the nasty cheap carpet that would be better served as a place to wipe your boots when entering the house, the 23k sticker and the garbage cut rate interior had us both running for the Ford dealer to see the far superior Fusion.
My automatic Toyota Echo gets 40mpg in the city without the added expense of any hybrid equipment. And you only returned 37mpg? This sounds like a one star review to me, and if this were a GM product, I’m sure that it would have been set on fire.
I don’t understand why ’shifting’ a CVT confuses some people. Basically, a CVT works by selecting from a near continuous spectrum of ‘ratios’ for the gear. By flipping a paddle switch, you’re telling the CVT to hold a specific ratio or kick down to a specific ratio quickly.
That said, Honda’s CVT reliability has been atrocious. This gets glossed over, but Honda’s hybrids have been only slightly more reliable than Daewoos.
Should have been left missing link in the techno-parade to high efficiency autos. Again, not worth the money.
As savvy consumers we need to vote “no purchase” until Big Auto vastly improves content and price.
The future will bring back affordable automobiles that are breathtaking to drive and the ultimate in conservation. This will happen because it is what we all really want and are willing to pay for.
A Jetta TDI? Are you serious? VW’s reliability, even on the TDI models, is not on par with Honda’s.
This review read more like a two or three star review.
Ergonomics dictates that instruments should be HUDs, but as that’s not practical…
I have been told that HUDs are distracting, because your brain sees “things moving” in the zone where the road is.
They are very, very cool, nonetheless:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:E60hud.JPG
…the best position is as far away from the driver without being illegible, and as few degrees from the road focus. This way the driver doesn’t need to glance away from the road and refocus.
Uhmmmmm…that seems to be a reason. Thank you.
Do you have any source for this issue?. I would be very interested. I am fascinated by ergonomics.
Michael, great and funny review. You averaged 37mpg? My 2008 manual Corolla does almost the same with a 126 HP, 1.8l engine.
In the city it drinks 7L/100km (33mpg) and on the highway 6L/100km (39mpg).
You could buy almost two of those for one hybrid…
Besides, all small cars are hybrids – you can push them and get a great gas milage.
I am following the progression of alt-fuel cars like this. It seems to me that car manufacturers beleive that people who will buy hybrid cars are not at all interested in fun driving.
I beleive that they are mistaken. I, for instance, am very intertested in spirited controlled driving that uses as little fuel as possible. So I own a Golf. I also live in Philadelphia, so I really could use an electric assist downtown, where speeds of 2 mph are not uncommon.
For instance, a Mustang hybrid. A 4cyl turbo 300 hp ala Mazda. An electric engine for the city, a gas one for the highway. And Mustang good looks. A rag top, please.
I cannot imagine this will come to pass. You see, people who want good milage dont really wanna have fun, right?
So it’s a Fit with a crap transmission and a novel drivetrain. Or you could call it a Fit that is $3-4k more expensive than it’s better-driving mechanical relations. I thought Honda was going to be making the “sporty hybrid”, and from a few initial reviews I was preparing myself for a pleasant suprise. Then I heard about the CVT (total dealbreaker, Honda’s conventional 4-speed autos are awful and this is the replacement tech nology? That’s a firing offense.), the lack of manual transmission option, and the more honest impressions (such as this one) start to filter through. I should have known better, but I probably shouldn’t full on hate until I drive it.
The new Prius is getting the open eyes/open mouth treatment from journalists right now as well. Again, I was preparing myself for a pleasant suprise, but I should probably take a chill pill on that. The same exact people who’ve been touting the new Prius have been singing the Inight’s virtues from every rooftop.
With regard to my 37 mpg average, I should add that I really got on this beast. I mixed my driving evenly, but I became interested driving it hard to see what would happen. Like listening to transmission I would have figured was busted on most other cars. Or jamming on jelly breaks. Fascinating.
Looked at in terms of a practical, economical commuter car, it gets four stars.
Hmmmmmmm. We had a 2002 Civic EX sedan that regularly provided 27 to 32mpg in town and between 35 to 41mpg on road trips and it had the nice zippy 1.7L 117hp engine/automatic combo.
Nice to see Honda provide newer generations of this technology but wouldn’t it be smart for them to simply provide cool hatchback or wagon versions of their Civic and Accord instead???
I just don’t get Honda the past few years. They’ve lost focus on their core product lines and some of the leadership they used to have.
RE: 37 mpg
Other journalists who have driven the Insight have achieved substantially better mileage.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/uptospeed/2009/04/back-to-back-hybrid-smack-prius-vs-insight.html
http://www.automobilemag.com/green/reviews/0903_2010_honda_insight/sport_setting.html
Do you have any source for this issue?. I would be very interested. I am fascinated by ergonomics.
There was a lot of discussion about this when the Echo (and Ion, and X-Trail) were released. The statistics were most particular in the Echo’s case, measuring degrees of look-away and eye-focus changes. I’ll try to dig them up.
I have been told that HUDs are distracting, because your brain sees “things moving” in the zone where the road is.
You’re right: a “Minority Report” HUD is asking for trouble.
A good HUD ought not to provide too much information. The speedo and perhaps a few idiot lights (say, a blue blinking dot to shift and a red one for a general problem) that indicate the driver should look down and view a more detailed status of the problem. The edge-of-windscreen guages in the Insight, Prius and pre-refresh Suzuki Aerio are a kind of compromise in this respect, not bad, but not great, either.
I’ve heard arguments about moving climate and audio control feedback to a HUD as well, though not as universally: doing so with secondary controls splits your focus, perhaps with even worse results than simply requiring a look-away.
Do you have any source for this issue?. I would be very interested. I am fascinated by ergonomics.
http://www.ausairpower.net/TE-Fighter-Cockpits.html
…the lack of manual transmission option…
When the original Insight was around, it was noted that the CVT got better real-world mileage in the hands of all but the most deranged hypermilers. Hybrids do their best work when they can manage the powertrain to it’s highest efficiency. A CVT allows that, a manual transmission very much does not.
One reason to put the instruments in the center of the ip is so that they don’t have to design and build mirror-image ip’s for left- and right-drive countries.
I would suspect that the main reason hybrids don’t come with manual transmissions is the cost of building them and getting them through all the hoops necessary for sale in the US market, balanced against the likelihood that about two percent of hybrid buyers would want a stick; the same reason, that is, that we in the United States have a lesser choice of engine/transmission combinations in general than do car buyers in other countries. Just our government tryin’ to look out for us….
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April 13th, 2009 at 4:56 am
I average 45 mpg (US) with my Toyota Avensis Diesel. City+Road+Freeway. Real paper and pencil calculations, not the optimistic on board computer.
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Diesel is 18% denser than gasoline (more hydro-carbon per unit size). So, for fair comparison, 1 mpg diesel = 0.847 mpg gas.
Your 45 mpg diesel car is as energy efficient as a 38 mpg gas car.
Another hybrid review and another slew of comments about how their diesel gets the same or better MPG’s, again showing absolute ignorance oil refining.
Hey looks like a Honda!
Is that a Honda?
The car that everyone drives in America next to Toyota.
Good car, considering that Honda didn’t receive $10k bailout for every car they produce.
Wait, so my SLK55 gets like 24-25 mpg, and this thing gets like 37?
So, for 13 mpg, I would have to be SEEN in that piece of garbage? AND IT COSTS MORE THAN A DECENT USED AMG WITH LESS THAN 15,000?! That works out to like a tank of gas every couple months for the average driver.
Whoever buys this is predisposed to this sort of decision. The economics make no sense.
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Wait, so my SLK55 gets like 24-25 mpg
Only when standing very still in your garage.