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	<title>Comments on: Review: 2009 Toyota Venza AWD V6 Take Two</title>
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		<title>By: newbreed</title>
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		<dc:creator>newbreed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 11:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Myself and my wife just purchase a Venza, and we love it.  We are both diehard Honda fans, but wanted a family vehicle that was roomy, good on gas, and all wheel drive for our Canadian winter.    

I really do question some of the feedback on here.  The Venza has some key features that makes it stand out in the Toyota line up.  The Rav4 cost&#039;s about $4,000 CND less than the Venza, but does have nearly as much room as the Venza and it&#039;s swing arm door would be a pain.  Driving up to a curb to drop off something and have to walk around the door to get to the curb.  It&#039;s just not practical.  Why have a bigger vehicle to haul around stuff, just to have it&#039;s door get in the way when offloading?  

The Highlander cost&#039;s about $4,000 CND more than the Venza.  If the Venza is so much more expensive than the Rav4, why is the Highlander being compared?  With the third row seating folded down, it does seem to have as much rear cargo space as the Venza.  But it can only take four people.  The Venza can take five, and have as much room.  

The Sienna also burns more gas than the Venza.  Plus the mini van family vehicle is really played out.  The Venza offers something different.

If your looking for a roomy vehicle that&#039;s good on gas.  The Venza wins hands down in the Toyota line up.  I don&#039;t understand how people question Toyota marketing.  As far as styling, I understand, different strokes for different folks.  But I have has so many people come up to me and ask me about our Venza.  They love the styling, room and big rims.  When I tell them the gas mileage they are floored.  

The 4cyl engine is smooth and has more than enough power for city and highway driving.  From owing and drive a Venza in the heart of downtown Toronto, just stupid crazy traffic sometimes, well all the time really lol, changing lanes is on par with my Civic.  It&#039;s a bit longer, but every car has a blind spot.  Changing lanes in a Venza is not difficult.  

For the ladies, a nice feature is that my wife was able to put her purse in the centre console.  Her purse is not small.  For the guys, four gold bags can fit in the rear no problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Myself and my wife just purchase a Venza, and we love it.  We are both diehard Honda fans, but wanted a family vehicle that was roomy, good on gas, and all wheel drive for our Canadian winter.    </p>
<p>I really do question some of the feedback on here.  The Venza has some key features that makes it stand out in the Toyota line up.  The Rav4 cost&#8217;s about $4,000 CND less than the Venza, but does have nearly as much room as the Venza and it&#8217;s swing arm door would be a pain.  Driving up to a curb to drop off something and have to walk around the door to get to the curb.  It&#8217;s just not practical.  Why have a bigger vehicle to haul around stuff, just to have it&#8217;s door get in the way when offloading?  </p>
<p>The Highlander cost&#8217;s about $4,000 CND more than the Venza.  If the Venza is so much more expensive than the Rav4, why is the Highlander being compared?  With the third row seating folded down, it does seem to have as much rear cargo space as the Venza.  But it can only take four people.  The Venza can take five, and have as much room.  </p>
<p>The Sienna also burns more gas than the Venza.  Plus the mini van family vehicle is really played out.  The Venza offers something different.</p>
<p>If your looking for a roomy vehicle that&#8217;s good on gas.  The Venza wins hands down in the Toyota line up.  I don&#8217;t understand how people question Toyota marketing.  As far as styling, I understand, different strokes for different folks.  But I have has so many people come up to me and ask me about our Venza.  They love the styling, room and big rims.  When I tell them the gas mileage they are floored.  </p>
<p>The 4cyl engine is smooth and has more than enough power for city and highway driving.  From owing and drive a Venza in the heart of downtown Toronto, just stupid crazy traffic sometimes, well all the time really lol, changing lanes is on par with my Civic.  It&#8217;s a bit longer, but every car has a blind spot.  Changing lanes in a Venza is not difficult.  </p>
<p>For the ladies, a nice feature is that my wife was able to put her purse in the centre console.  Her purse is not small.  For the guys, four gold bags can fit in the rear no problem.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: richard0729</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/review-2009-toyota-veza/comment-page-3/#comment-1532820</link>
		<dc:creator>richard0729</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 01:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked Robert Farago&#039;s Venza review. One thing he pointed out is the blind spot pillar. I drive on Texas I-35 where big rigs rule. I grew up on California freeway driving. When I say rule, I mean they get you in any lane you&#039;re in and you better be able to see left and right if you want to quickly get out of their way -- which I do. 

The main reason I&#039;m looking at the Venza is because my wife really likes the styling. Right now I&#039;m driving a 2007 Honda Pilot which I love. She doesn&#039;t because she thinks it&#039;s like sitting in a truck. The Pilot has great visibility and the handling is decent considering it&#039;s an SUV. I put in a Pioneer navigation shortly after we purchased it. The mileage is way better than I expected, about 19 to 20 city and 24+ on the highway. It has cylinder management which brings it down to 3 cylinders on freeway driving and it&#039;s hardly noticeable. 

I don&#039;t like the Venza based on the several reviews I&#039;ve read. I&#039;ll compromise and go for a test ride but I&#039;ll admit I&#039;m soured on the what I&#039;ve read so far.

I&#039;ve owned Ford, Chevy, VW, BMW, Audi, AMC Rambler (ashamed to admit it), Toyota (car and pickup truck). I&#039;m older, maybe not wiser but I have no qualms about saying the Pilot is the best vehicle I&#039;ve owned. Age has a way of moderating one&#039;s views.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I liked Robert Farago&#8217;s Venza review. One thing he pointed out is the blind spot pillar. I drive on Texas I-35 where big rigs rule. I grew up on California freeway driving. When I say rule, I mean they get you in any lane you&#8217;re in and you better be able to see left and right if you want to quickly get out of their way &#8212; which I do. </p>
<p>The main reason I&#8217;m looking at the Venza is because my wife really likes the styling. Right now I&#8217;m driving a 2007 Honda Pilot which I love. She doesn&#8217;t because she thinks it&#8217;s like sitting in a truck. The Pilot has great visibility and the handling is decent considering it&#8217;s an SUV. I put in a Pioneer navigation shortly after we purchased it. The mileage is way better than I expected, about 19 to 20 city and 24+ on the highway. It has cylinder management which brings it down to 3 cylinders on freeway driving and it&#8217;s hardly noticeable. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like the Venza based on the several reviews I&#8217;ve read. I&#8217;ll compromise and go for a test ride but I&#8217;ll admit I&#8217;m soured on the what I&#8217;ve read so far.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve owned Ford, Chevy, VW, BMW, Audi, AMC Rambler (ashamed to admit it), Toyota (car and pickup truck). I&#8217;m older, maybe not wiser but I have no qualms about saying the Pilot is the best vehicle I&#8217;ve owned. Age has a way of moderating one&#8217;s views.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ThaddeusSz</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/review-2009-toyota-veza/comment-page-3/#comment-1504529</link>
		<dc:creator>ThaddeusSz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you like Lexus RX or Chrysler Pacifica, you will love this car.

Of course this is combination of passenger car and SUV.  Excellent rear access, but this no tuck. Three in one? almost, and I adore this setup. Interior top edge. 

Bon voyage!</description>
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<p>Of course this is combination of passenger car and SUV.  Excellent rear access, but this no tuck. Three in one? almost, and I adore this setup. Interior top edge. </p>
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		<title>By: merlynbrit</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/review-2009-toyota-veza/comment-page-3/#comment-1475222</link>
		<dc:creator>merlynbrit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>save the tall AWD wagons to subaru and volvo, they do it better.</description>
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		<title>By: cr</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/review-2009-toyota-veza/comment-page-3/#comment-1473525</link>
		<dc:creator>cr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 03:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that Toyota targeted their market quite well.  It&#039;s just not the market some people may think.  

The Venza is a somewhat unique vehicle. It has small to medium SUV type room but wider, without the boxy look of one.  Being lower it&#039;s easier to enter and load items into the back, and likely handles better than a tall SUV.  It&#039;s not a station wagon, since it&#039;s slightly higher and not just a car with an extended rear end and hatch back.

So it has more room than a typical station wagon, without the ungainly look of an SUV.  It you have to categorize it I suppose it could be considered a sort of lowered crossover SUV, or perhaps a cross between an SUV and a station wagon.  Whatever it is, I think it hit a good target.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->It seems to me that Toyota targeted their market quite well.  It&#8217;s just not the market some people may think.  </p>
<p>The Venza is a somewhat unique vehicle. It has small to medium SUV type room but wider, without the boxy look of one.  Being lower it&#8217;s easier to enter and load items into the back, and likely handles better than a tall SUV.  It&#8217;s not a station wagon, since it&#8217;s slightly higher and not just a car with an extended rear end and hatch back.</p>
<p>So it has more room than a typical station wagon, without the ungainly look of an SUV.  It you have to categorize it I suppose it could be considered a sort of lowered crossover SUV, or perhaps a cross between an SUV and a station wagon.  Whatever it is, I think it hit a good target.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: JillyBean</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/review-2009-toyota-veza/comment-page-3/#comment-1472308</link>
		<dc:creator>JillyBean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 01:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I test drove the Venza, I actually asked if the vehicle has any parts in common with existing vehicles.  I was visualizing repair nightmares, if the vehicle became obsolete - I tend to always think in WCS&#039;s.  The salesman indicated that the Venza was originally designed to replace the RX, not add another vehicle to the list.  Not sure if that nugget of information is accurate or not, since it came from a salesman. I personally can&#039;t figure out why they would replace the RX, its the least atrocious of the Toyota/Lexus SUV&#039;s. Instead they stuck the Venza in the Toyota line and downgraded it. So I guess this is more of an orphan Frankenstein, than anything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->When I test drove the Venza, I actually asked if the vehicle has any parts in common with existing vehicles.  I was visualizing repair nightmares, if the vehicle became obsolete &#8211; I tend to always think in WCS&#8217;s.  The salesman indicated that the Venza was originally designed to replace the RX, not add another vehicle to the list.  Not sure if that nugget of information is accurate or not, since it came from a salesman. I personally can&#8217;t figure out why they would replace the RX, its the least atrocious of the Toyota/Lexus SUV&#8217;s. Instead they stuck the Venza in the Toyota line and downgraded it. So I guess this is more of an orphan Frankenstein, than anything else.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Daddyof2</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/review-2009-toyota-veza/comment-page-3/#comment-1472287</link>
		<dc:creator>Daddyof2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 00:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The answer to a question no one asked.  This is the first time I have seen Toyota screw up in targeting a market in a long time.

The last thing that Toyota needs to do is add another CUV, SUV, crossover to their list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The answer to a question no one asked.  This is the first time I have seen Toyota screw up in targeting a market in a long time.</p>
<p>The last thing that Toyota needs to do is add another CUV, SUV, crossover to their list.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: JillyBean</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/review-2009-toyota-veza/comment-page-2/#comment-1469112</link>
		<dc:creator>JillyBean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 01:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I test drove the Camry and the Venza, this is a graceful adult vehicle, for people who want more versatility than the Camry.  The height was perfect for getting in and out of the car, as well as accessing the trunk area, which I cannot say about the RAV nor the Highlander, or most other CUV’s.  Loading and unloading does not require being swallowed up by your trunk. The Camry wagon was always ugly, and wasn’t all that roomy for those IKEA trips. The back seat release mechanisms, are within easy reach in the trunk, so you can do everything from the back, instead of grunting to fold down stiff unyielding seats from the passenger side.  The only thing I didn’t like was the car strained when I drove it up the ramp in the garage at the dealership.  Somehow the vision of driving through the mountains on my road-trips sort of faded on that note.  I don’t think the Venza is one vehicle too many in the Toyota barn, I think they finally found something that fills a niche perfectly in the Toyota lineup, that borrowed from the Lexus stable.  With GM you can’t see the forest for the trees, with all the rubbish they push out, but Toyota still brings out smart cars, including the Venza.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I test drove the Camry and the Venza, this is a graceful adult vehicle, for people who want more versatility than the Camry.  The height was perfect for getting in and out of the car, as well as accessing the trunk area, which I cannot say about the RAV nor the Highlander, or most other CUV’s.  Loading and unloading does not require being swallowed up by your trunk. The Camry wagon was always ugly, and wasn’t all that roomy for those IKEA trips. The back seat release mechanisms, are within easy reach in the trunk, so you can do everything from the back, instead of grunting to fold down stiff unyielding seats from the passenger side.  The only thing I didn’t like was the car strained when I drove it up the ramp in the garage at the dealership.  Somehow the vision of driving through the mountains on my road-trips sort of faded on that note.  I don’t think the Venza is one vehicle too many in the Toyota barn, I think they finally found something that fills a niche perfectly in the Toyota lineup, that borrowed from the Lexus stable.  With GM you can’t see the forest for the trees, with all the rubbish they push out, but Toyota still brings out smart cars, including the Venza.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: cr</title>
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		<dc:creator>cr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don’t quite understand the extreme negative venom about the Venza here.  It’s not just another (gag) sport-ute crossover. (Now if it were another Hummer…)  It’s much closer to a station-wagon but with more style (which looks good to me).  I really dislike the jacked-up, boxy SUV that you have to step up to get into, and I won’t own one on a bet.  Mini-vans are not my cup of tea either.  I want something with a hatch-back and fold-down-seat to haul bulky items that has more cargo room than a sedan, but with similar handling, a relatively low height, good gas mileage, and a spacious interior.  The 4-cylinder Venza has that.  Of course the 4-cylinder is not a barn burner, but the reviews I’ve read said the power is quite adequate (unless you load it to the max. but with just a wife and a dog, I won’t) and when gas again hits $4 plus (and it will), I’ll be glad I have the four.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Don’t quite understand the extreme negative venom about the Venza here.  It’s not just another (gag) sport-ute crossover. (Now if it were another Hummer…)  It’s much closer to a station-wagon but with more style (which looks good to me).  I really dislike the jacked-up, boxy SUV that you have to step up to get into, and I won’t own one on a bet.  Mini-vans are not my cup of tea either.  I want something with a hatch-back and fold-down-seat to haul bulky items that has more cargo room than a sedan, but with similar handling, a relatively low height, good gas mileage, and a spacious interior.  The 4-cylinder Venza has that.  Of course the 4-cylinder is not a barn burner, but the reviews I’ve read said the power is quite adequate (unless you load it to the max. but with just a wife and a dog, I won’t) and when gas again hits $4 plus (and it will), I’ll be glad I have the four.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jondrew</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/review-2009-toyota-veza/comment-page-2/#comment-1442911</link>
		<dc:creator>jondrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, we just spent the weekend test driving the Venza and basically finding out what it is since I had not even heard of it until last Friday. I have to say, I&#039;m almost 180 degrees out of phase with this review. Let me start with the thing I agree with. I do see some similarity to the PT Cruiser type of look to this thing. Not that it looks like a PT, but its that same sort of style idea. People look at it and say &quot;What is this?&quot;.That aside, the more I looked at the style, the more I warmed up to it. My wife seemed to like it a lot (interesting as we will be trading our BMW 335i in for this). See, we now unexpectedly have a baby on our hands and while my Tundra handles things well in the double cab, the 335 is a back-breaker to get the seat in and out of. The wife is not interested in mini vans (been there, done that) and really does not want to go the SUV route (BTDT again). We like the space in the Venza. I rode in the back seat with the baby seat in the center and was quite comfortable. I dont find the ride rough at all (I guess that&#039;s compared to a truck and a sports car). It had pleanty of pick up (we drove the 4 cyl and the 6). I thought the milage was pretty reasonable. 21/29 for the 4 cyl, 19/26 for the 6. I think this car would be ideal for our needs. Not a giant soccer mom-mobile, but pleanty of room for a family of 3 plus cargo.
I dont see toyota turning into GM at all. What&#039;s wrong with experimienting with this type of vehicle as long as you have pleanty of go-to models (camry, Tundra, Highlander) and build a solid product. I&#039;ve owned 3 toyotal trucks (outgrown one with 125K on it, wrecked my 05 Tundra, and just got the 08 Tundra) and am very satsified with all. We had a Lexus GS 300 for a couple of years, again a great, reliable car (maybe not the pizzaz of a BMWr).
Anyway, I think this review is off and hopefully folks who are looking for something a bit bigger than a sedan, but a half step below the CUVs will check this out and make up their own minds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Wow, we just spent the weekend test driving the Venza and basically finding out what it is since I had not even heard of it until last Friday. I have to say, I&#8217;m almost 180 degrees out of phase with this review. Let me start with the thing I agree with. I do see some similarity to the PT Cruiser type of look to this thing. Not that it looks like a PT, but its that same sort of style idea. People look at it and say &#8220;What is this?&#8221;.That aside, the more I looked at the style, the more I warmed up to it. My wife seemed to like it a lot (interesting as we will be trading our BMW 335i in for this). See, we now unexpectedly have a baby on our hands and while my Tundra handles things well in the double cab, the 335 is a back-breaker to get the seat in and out of. The wife is not interested in mini vans (been there, done that) and really does not want to go the SUV route (BTDT again). We like the space in the Venza. I rode in the back seat with the baby seat in the center and was quite comfortable. I dont find the ride rough at all (I guess that&#8217;s compared to a truck and a sports car). It had pleanty of pick up (we drove the 4 cyl and the 6). I thought the milage was pretty reasonable. 21/29 for the 4 cyl, 19/26 for the 6. I think this car would be ideal for our needs. Not a giant soccer mom-mobile, but pleanty of room for a family of 3 plus cargo.<br />
I dont see toyota turning into GM at all. What&#8217;s wrong with experimienting with this type of vehicle as long as you have pleanty of go-to models (camry, Tundra, Highlander) and build a solid product. I&#8217;ve owned 3 toyotal trucks (outgrown one with 125K on it, wrecked my 05 Tundra, and just got the 08 Tundra) and am very satsified with all. We had a Lexus GS 300 for a couple of years, again a great, reliable car (maybe not the pizzaz of a BMWr).<br />
Anyway, I think this review is off and hopefully folks who are looking for something a bit bigger than a sedan, but a half step below the CUVs will check this out and make up their own minds.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: urS4red</title>
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		<dc:creator>urS4red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 00:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife had a 91 Camry Wagon. Great car. Her next two cars were an Avalon and a Highlander.  She&#039;s into reliability, not cars.  She drove the Venza and did not like it. She felt that it was impractical.   Trying to convince her to get the A6 wagon or 535xi wagon.</description>
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		<title>By: Toyota Venza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toyota Venza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an excellent car. I live in Ontario and I am going for a test drive. CAN&#039;T WAIT!


What color do you all like?</description>
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		<title>By: yotadriver</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/review-2009-toyota-veza/comment-page-2/#comment-1432672</link>
		<dc:creator>yotadriver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 13:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I&#039;ll try not to &quot;flame&quot; the writer or other posters...but they have certainly flamed this car, this company and anyone who may feel they have a logical reason to buy this vehicle.  I like Toyotas and we have had tremendous luck with their products.  We are an empty nester couple, both 46.  Our last great vehicle was our 2003 4runner, which we just sold after 175K great miles.  We also own a 4x4 Tundra.  

Our reasons for buying the Venza:  tired of getting less than 20mpg on our vehicles, need someting easy to park, run errands in, good backseat room and comfort (reclining back seats for travel)  Our son plays college golf and soon pro golf-- lots of trips.  A hatchback for access to clubs, groceries etc, something more carlike than the SUV.  So the Venza was exactly what we needed- The RAV?  Are you joking?- cramped and not appealing to 40 somethings....Highlander too expensive.  WE are tired of paying 30 to 45k for vehicles-  America needs to take a hard look at what they are spending their hard earned cash on- we actually WANTED the 4 cyclinder- Im not racing anyone for gods sake....we are getting an avg 27 mpg with this Venza and 30 on the highway.  We bought this FWD, 4cyl for 23K out the door...nuff said on the economics of it...And dont come back and say I dont know the SUV/truck market.....I have a 120 acre farm -  Tundra land and 4runner was great-- but the Venza DOES fit a demographic that Toyota needs- what they need to do is cut down on some of their Highlander versions and RAV versions.  Im sure this car will be a reliable runabout and golfwagon to beat up for years to come...man some folks on here must really get into this car thing....venom flowing and all...its just a freakin car...I want certain functions, fuel economy, dependability, muti purpose and a little roominess- all for half what we would have paid 3 years ago when everyone was better off financially....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Well I&#8217;ll try not to &#8220;flame&#8221; the writer or other posters&#8230;but they have certainly flamed this car, this company and anyone who may feel they have a logical reason to buy this vehicle.  I like Toyotas and we have had tremendous luck with their products.  We are an empty nester couple, both 46.  Our last great vehicle was our 2003 4runner, which we just sold after 175K great miles.  We also own a 4&#215;4 Tundra.  </p>
<p>Our reasons for buying the Venza:  tired of getting less than 20mpg on our vehicles, need someting easy to park, run errands in, good backseat room and comfort (reclining back seats for travel)  Our son plays college golf and soon pro golf&#8211; lots of trips.  A hatchback for access to clubs, groceries etc, something more carlike than the SUV.  So the Venza was exactly what we needed- The RAV?  Are you joking?- cramped and not appealing to 40 somethings&#8230;.Highlander too expensive.  WE are tired of paying 30 to 45k for vehicles-  America needs to take a hard look at what they are spending their hard earned cash on- we actually WANTED the 4 cyclinder- Im not racing anyone for gods sake&#8230;.we are getting an avg 27 mpg with this Venza and 30 on the highway.  We bought this FWD, 4cyl for 23K out the door&#8230;nuff said on the economics of it&#8230;And dont come back and say I dont know the SUV/truck market&#8230;..I have a 120 acre farm &#8211;  Tundra land and 4runner was great&#8211; but the Venza DOES fit a demographic that Toyota needs- what they need to do is cut down on some of their Highlander versions and RAV versions.  Im sure this car will be a reliable runabout and golfwagon to beat up for years to come&#8230;man some folks on here must really get into this car thing&#8230;.venom flowing and all&#8230;its just a freakin car&#8230;I want certain functions, fuel economy, dependability, muti purpose and a little roominess- all for half what we would have paid 3 years ago when everyone was better off financially&#8230;.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: heaven_on_mars</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/review-2009-toyota-veza/comment-page-2/#comment-1431702</link>
		<dc:creator>heaven_on_mars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 02:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with some who note this review is to much on the editorial side. There is no sense of balance. It seems like a pure attack versus logic. No doubt the Venza styling is like other vehicles that have caused a &quot;love it or hate it&quot; feeling among consumers. 

I love TTAC for bringing contant that is not afraid to tell it like it is. This review seems to bash the Venza more then review it. I have driven both the Venza V6 and 4 cylinder models and enjoyed the drive. It is a niche vehicle without a doubt. 

Toyota developed this vehicle with mostly parts they already on other vehicles. That makes it a relatively cheap vehicle to develop. To say Toyota is becoming like GM is a stretch. Toyota has superior quality to most GM products and is a leader in hybrid technology. It is hard to argue with their success. GM has been struggling for over 40 years now. Sure GM made profits, but the lemons they pushed onto consumers created the generations of Americans who will not trust American brands again. If Toyota starts more brands or buys others like Mazda or Nissan, then I would be more willing to say they are getting to be like GM. 

The Venza is attempt to appeal to more people. It is a wagon and Toyota marketing blew it by not just saying it is one. Modern wagons can be impressive. I would have issue driving an A6 Avante, 3 series wagon, or some of the other wagons on the market today. 

The Venza is more like a 3 out 5, not 1 out of 5. Only time will tell how truly good or bad the Venza is, but for a niche market vehicle it is fine in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I agree with some who note this review is to much on the editorial side. There is no sense of balance. It seems like a pure attack versus logic. No doubt the Venza styling is like other vehicles that have caused a &#8220;love it or hate it&#8221; feeling among consumers. </p>
<p>I love TTAC for bringing contant that is not afraid to tell it like it is. This review seems to bash the Venza more then review it. I have driven both the Venza V6 and 4 cylinder models and enjoyed the drive. It is a niche vehicle without a doubt. </p>
<p>Toyota developed this vehicle with mostly parts they already on other vehicles. That makes it a relatively cheap vehicle to develop. To say Toyota is becoming like GM is a stretch. Toyota has superior quality to most GM products and is a leader in hybrid technology. It is hard to argue with their success. GM has been struggling for over 40 years now. Sure GM made profits, but the lemons they pushed onto consumers created the generations of Americans who will not trust American brands again. If Toyota starts more brands or buys others like Mazda or Nissan, then I would be more willing to say they are getting to be like GM. </p>
<p>The Venza is attempt to appeal to more people. It is a wagon and Toyota marketing blew it by not just saying it is one. Modern wagons can be impressive. I would have issue driving an A6 Avante, 3 series wagon, or some of the other wagons on the market today. </p>
<p>The Venza is more like a 3 out 5, not 1 out of 5. Only time will tell how truly good or bad the Venza is, but for a niche market vehicle it is fine in my opinion.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: wsn</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/review-2009-toyota-veza/comment-page-2/#comment-1430932</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Venza is a great value in Canada. You know, everything up here is at ridiculous price as compared to their American counterparts. But the Venza is actually priced very reasonably.

The base model is around $28k CND, about the same as an Accord Ex or an Impreza &quot;one step up from the base level&quot; (forgot the trim name, probably = base US model). The Venza AWD model is a little bit less than $30k. A great value, considering Fits usually sell for $20k+; CX7 is about $2.5k more expensive.</description>
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<p>The base model is around $28k CND, about the same as an Accord Ex or an Impreza &#8220;one step up from the base level&#8221; (forgot the trim name, probably = base US model). The Venza AWD model is a little bit less than $30k. A great value, considering Fits usually sell for $20k+; CX7 is about $2.5k more expensive.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: tedward</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/review-2009-toyota-veza/comment-page-2/#comment-1427191</link>
		<dc:creator>tedward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>since this thread is still active (sort of). I just got my first real deal look at the Venza yesterday, on the street, with other cars. It&#039;s HUGE. The owner was there, and proud as hell of his ride, he even let me sit in it (always a risky proposition; on Jamaica Ave. (Queens, NY) any new-model lease you see is definitely being driven by a Brooklyn drug dealer, this guy was no exception). So yes, the car reeked of pot, but I still got to poke around his optioned to the gills example. 

The interior was nice enough, and definitely better than the impression I was left from pictures (remember, optioned to the gills). Also, the exterior dosen&#039;t come across as R-classish at all to me, even though that was my impression from photos. Instead, the combo of montrous freaking wheels, hatchback and a high ride height made the car appear aggresively stubby. If I&#039;m going to really compare this to Mercedes styling I&#039;d say that the Venza is the offspring of a Gwagon and R350 who was then abandoned at an orphanage run by Flava Flav, where it picked up zero good taste. 

Ultimately I don&#039;t think it was heinous, even though the person who penned that monster grill needs to be culled from the gene pool. I didn&#039;t however, see any possible market for it styling wise that isn&#039;t already completely dominated by 24&quot;rim Magnums and 22&quot;rim Impalas. Too ghetto, too much wheel, and no standout utility argument to make. This was the pre-ghetto&#039;ed loaded version though, so maybe without some options it looks tamer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->since this thread is still active (sort of). I just got my first real deal look at the Venza yesterday, on the street, with other cars. It&#8217;s HUGE. The owner was there, and proud as hell of his ride, he even let me sit in it (always a risky proposition; on Jamaica Ave. (Queens, NY) any new-model lease you see is definitely being driven by a Brooklyn drug dealer, this guy was no exception). So yes, the car reeked of pot, but I still got to poke around his optioned to the gills example. </p>
<p>The interior was nice enough, and definitely better than the impression I was left from pictures (remember, optioned to the gills). Also, the exterior dosen&#8217;t come across as R-classish at all to me, even though that was my impression from photos. Instead, the combo of montrous freaking wheels, hatchback and a high ride height made the car appear aggresively stubby. If I&#8217;m going to really compare this to Mercedes styling I&#8217;d say that the Venza is the offspring of a Gwagon and R350 who was then abandoned at an orphanage run by Flava Flav, where it picked up zero good taste. </p>
<p>Ultimately I don&#8217;t think it was heinous, even though the person who penned that monster grill needs to be culled from the gene pool. I didn&#8217;t however, see any possible market for it styling wise that isn&#8217;t already completely dominated by 24&#8243;rim Magnums and 22&#8243;rim Impalas. Too ghetto, too much wheel, and no standout utility argument to make. This was the pre-ghetto&#8217;ed loaded version though, so maybe without some options it looks tamer.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ponchoman49</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/review-2009-toyota-veza/comment-page-2/#comment-1427011</link>
		<dc:creator>ponchoman49</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote:

Patrickj : 
March 20th, 2009 at 8:05 am 


Slit windows and crappy gas mileage. Two main reasons I’m not in the car market right now. You can also add in overwrought styling.

Add in bland generic derivative styling, huge oversized tires, bloated shapes, ugliness taken to the extreme, cost cutting taken to new heights(no glovebox lights, no trunk lock cylinders, no floor or puddle lights, no bodyside moldings, one rear seat map pocket instead of two, no rear seat armrest etc), lack of choice in both options and model offerings,too many FWD/SUV/truck offerings and you make up the majority of the vehicles we have been offered(shoved down our throats) this dreadful decade so far.</description>
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March 20th, 2009 at 8:05 am </p>
<p>Slit windows and crappy gas mileage. Two main reasons I’m not in the car market right now. You can also add in overwrought styling.</p>
<p>Add in bland generic derivative styling, huge oversized tires, bloated shapes, ugliness taken to the extreme, cost cutting taken to new heights(no glovebox lights, no trunk lock cylinders, no floor or puddle lights, no bodyside moldings, one rear seat map pocket instead of two, no rear seat armrest etc), lack of choice in both options and model offerings,too many FWD/SUV/truck offerings and you make up the majority of the vehicles we have been offered(shoved down our throats) this dreadful decade so far.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: tate</title>
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		<dc:creator>tate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 05:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you for the review it was very insightful. All the more reasons for me to buy the Passat Wagon.</description>
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		<title>By: MagMax</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/review-2009-toyota-veza/comment-page-2/#comment-1396702</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 02:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since I&#039;m going to be in the market in a few months I had a look at and sat in the first Venza I came across at the local dealer.  Robert, your review is right on, not because I happen to agree with it but because you focused on the functions this car is supposed to perform.  I agree that one can&#039;t see out of it and that makes it dangerous.  It shouldn&#039;t be allowed on the road.  The blind spots are everywhere.  IMHO there&#039;s no reason for 20&quot; rims on any passenger vehicle just as there&#039;s no reason for anything less than 50 series tires on any passenger street vehicle.  Why any company would sell a product that&#039;s designed to cannibalize its own cars is beyond me.  This mish-mash is a clear example of fashion over function and as such it deserves to, and will, fail.

As for your choice of words in your review: brilliant!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Since I&#8217;m going to be in the market in a few months I had a look at and sat in the first Venza I came across at the local dealer.  Robert, your review is right on, not because I happen to agree with it but because you focused on the functions this car is supposed to perform.  I agree that one can&#8217;t see out of it and that makes it dangerous.  It shouldn&#8217;t be allowed on the road.  The blind spots are everywhere.  IMHO there&#8217;s no reason for 20&#8243; rims on any passenger vehicle just as there&#8217;s no reason for anything less than 50 series tires on any passenger street vehicle.  Why any company would sell a product that&#8217;s designed to cannibalize its own cars is beyond me.  This mish-mash is a clear example of fashion over function and as such it deserves to, and will, fail.</p>
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		<title>By: Tosh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 20:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Venza’s front grill is all Hyundai, while Toyota cribbed the Venza’s rear from the Lexus RX350—and added a Bangle butt (just for fun).&quot;

Can I get a clarification on the term &#039;Bangle butt&#039;? I was pretty sure it applied to the incongruous melding or overlapping of two different lines into a kind of goofy bulge, like an old-fashioned skirt bustle (as seen on the 7- and 6-series, then on the Acura RL). In contrast, I don&#039;t think the 5-series has a Bangle butt, even though Bangle drew it. But now I see the term applied to any busy over-styled rear? Maybe you just wanted to say &#039;Bangle butt&#039; just for fun?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&#8220;The Venza’s front grill is all Hyundai, while Toyota cribbed the Venza’s rear from the Lexus RX350—and added a Bangle butt (just for fun).&#8221;</p>
<p>Can I get a clarification on the term &#8216;Bangle butt&#8217;? I was pretty sure it applied to the incongruous melding or overlapping of two different lines into a kind of goofy bulge, like an old-fashioned skirt bustle (as seen on the 7- and 6-series, then on the Acura RL). In contrast, I don&#8217;t think the 5-series has a Bangle butt, even though Bangle drew it. But now I see the term applied to any busy over-styled rear? Maybe you just wanted to say &#8216;Bangle butt&#8217; just for fun?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: DeanMTL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DeanMTL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s hideous. The public is to blame for opening their wallets and encouraging this sort of garbage.</description>
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		<title>By: rudiger</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/review-2009-toyota-veza/comment-page-2/#comment-1394051</link>
		<dc:creator>rudiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 01:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Paul Niedermeyer: &lt;em&gt;&quot;How is this anything other than a low-content Lexus Rx 350?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Well, it has a different grill. 

But, other than that, I suspect that&#039;s the whole point - the Venza is the poor-man&#039;s Lexus RX 350 and is aimed squarely at that market of people who aspire to own one of those but can&#039;t quite yet afford it.</description>
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<p>Well, it has a different grill. </p>
<p>But, other than that, I suspect that&#8217;s the whole point &#8211; the Venza is the poor-man&#8217;s Lexus RX 350 and is aimed squarely at that market of people who aspire to own one of those but can&#8217;t quite yet afford it.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I see the market the Venza.  The Highlander has been increased in size, and is now a 3-row cross-over.  The Rav4 (which I&#039;m driving now as a rental), is smaller and downmarket of the Venza.  The Venza is a 2-row vehicle, pitched against Flex and Murano.

While I&#039;d prefer a Camry wagon over the Venza, there is a market for it, and a niche in the Toyota line up.</description>
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<p>While I&#8217;d prefer a Camry wagon over the Venza, there is a market for it, and a niche in the Toyota line up.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: hwyhobo</title>
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		<dc:creator>hwyhobo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 07:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;psarhjinian&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;i&gt;The modern minivan really is the station wagon done right&lt;/i&gt;

In all honesty, the modern minivan is the original station wagon. They were flattened much later. The original ones resembled a very spartan combination of a minivan and a Suburban (in fact, they were sometimes called suburbans). All we&#039;ve done in the past 80 years or so is experiment with a proven design just to go back to it.</description>
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<i>The modern minivan really is the station wagon done right</i></p>
<p>In all honesty, the modern minivan is the original station wagon. They were flattened much later. The original ones resembled a very spartan combination of a minivan and a Suburban (in fact, they were sometimes called suburbans). All we&#8217;ve done in the past 80 years or so is experiment with a proven design just to go back to it.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Flashpoint</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flashpoint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 04:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is for the average dummy who blindly buys anything Toyota makes - whether based on price, ignorance or bias towards &quot;other&quot; auto makers.</description>
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