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		<title>By: minion444</title>
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		<dc:creator>minion444</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 11:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>69 Mercury Cougar.  My Dad&#039;s ride.  Black Cherry, 351 w with auto.
Long hood.  thought I had a rocket ship to pilot</description>
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		<title>By: joeaverage</title>
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		<dc:creator>joeaverage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My grandfather sold used cars and trucks so I got to drive all sorts of former state and federal gov&#039;t cars (the plainest of the Janes) around the yard from about the time I was 11 or 12. That&#039;s not saying much. At least I knew where all the buttons and levers were. 

I learned to the drive on the road around 1984 (14th birthday) in a 1935 Ford Fordor sedan. Think big flat-head v-8 gangster car. With mechanical brakes. WHY Henry Ford stuck with those mechanical brakes for as long as he did I&#039;ll never know. Maybe it adjusted just right they were better than the ones in our 1935 Fordor. Dunno. Anyhow I could steer it, could shift it, and could start it but I couldn&#039;t stop it. I just wasn&#039;t strong enough though my legs were long enough. 

Went from that to a mid-60s 327 powered Impala (or Caprice?). Put that one in the woods (no damage) b/c of bald tires, WAY over-boosted brakes, and WAY WAY over-boosted steering. The times I have driven cars like that since feel very, very unsafe b/c the controls are so numb. This was a former country preachers car and carried about 400 lbs of mud under the chassis. We pulled the engine for a hot rod Dad built and the rest of the car (in good condition but needed paint) went to the crusher. 

Go down to learning to drive in an 1983 Celica 5 speed. Nice little car. Not much power but it did it&#039;s work well and last far beyond our expectations. Sunroof, gold/brown paint, a/c, RWD, five speed. Was a good little car. 

Got my first of three Mustangs when I was 15 or so. First one was a 1966. Had to restore it to make it presentable. Learned to do brakes, paint, interiors, engine rebuilds, etc. What a piece of junk. It was eagerly anticipating it&#039;s return to Mother Earth so it rusted as quickly as it could no matter what we did to slow that. It was a piece of junk b/c of the abuse the previous owners had given it. Prob 5 or 6 teens had owned that car before me. Suspension creaked. Rearend howled. Transmission was wornout. Driveshaft splines were worn. Leaked all of it&#039;s fluids constantly. Three speed tranny. Drum brakes. Leaned like a ship in a wind-storm on the curves. 

Brakes went out TWICE going down the mountain where we lived. Darned signle circuit brakes so if one wheel cylinder failed they all failed. No wreck - somehow. Was in rush hour. Three speed tranny was awful. Driven other three speeds that were better I think. Not really enough power to go from 1st to 2nd. Ratios were too wide. Then the same problem from 2nd to 3rd. COuldn&#039;t stay in 3rd once you got there b/c the engine didn&#039;t have enough power. 3rd was still geared too low for highway use so 60 mph made the old six scream. All 120 HP of it. Or so the spec sheet promised. Later got a &#039;64.5 convertible. Never restored it. After that got an &#039;81 with that same six cylinder from the retired lady next door. This time with all the smog equipment it promised 90 whole HP from a 3.3L six. How smoke it was a lazy engine - and not in any kind of good way. Power everything and a slushbox. Slushbox went out 6 months later. Apparently it preferred to be left in drive all the time. No shifting for it. Worn clutches. 

Like so many above have said - these cars all taught me something about driving. I loved them all for different reasons - sometimes the same reasons. The antiques taught me how easy modern cars were relative to the 1980s. The two 60s Mustangs showed me what owner neglect would do to a car and what a partial restoration would yield (problems forever). The &#039;81 Mustang taught me how to travel b/c it went to college and the US Navy with me. 

It was my trips overseas that Dad claims ruined me b/c I haven&#039;t owned another domestic vehicle since. An &#039;84 Rabbit &#039;ver I had over there taught me how to drive 100mph+ without getting killed. It was all about rules of the road. Folks around here don&#039;t have enough road discipline to drive like that all the time. 

I&#039;d like to have all of them back with a shop big enough to store and work on them, money to properly care for them, and time to drive them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->My grandfather sold used cars and trucks so I got to drive all sorts of former state and federal gov&#8217;t cars (the plainest of the Janes) around the yard from about the time I was 11 or 12. That&#8217;s not saying much. At least I knew where all the buttons and levers were. </p>
<p>I learned to the drive on the road around 1984 (14th birthday) in a 1935 Ford Fordor sedan. Think big flat-head v-8 gangster car. With mechanical brakes. WHY Henry Ford stuck with those mechanical brakes for as long as he did I&#8217;ll never know. Maybe it adjusted just right they were better than the ones in our 1935 Fordor. Dunno. Anyhow I could steer it, could shift it, and could start it but I couldn&#8217;t stop it. I just wasn&#8217;t strong enough though my legs were long enough. </p>
<p>Went from that to a mid-60s 327 powered Impala (or Caprice?). Put that one in the woods (no damage) b/c of bald tires, WAY over-boosted brakes, and WAY WAY over-boosted steering. The times I have driven cars like that since feel very, very unsafe b/c the controls are so numb. This was a former country preachers car and carried about 400 lbs of mud under the chassis. We pulled the engine for a hot rod Dad built and the rest of the car (in good condition but needed paint) went to the crusher. </p>
<p>Go down to learning to drive in an 1983 Celica 5 speed. Nice little car. Not much power but it did it&#8217;s work well and last far beyond our expectations. Sunroof, gold/brown paint, a/c, RWD, five speed. Was a good little car. </p>
<p>Got my first of three Mustangs when I was 15 or so. First one was a 1966. Had to restore it to make it presentable. Learned to do brakes, paint, interiors, engine rebuilds, etc. What a piece of junk. It was eagerly anticipating it&#8217;s return to Mother Earth so it rusted as quickly as it could no matter what we did to slow that. It was a piece of junk b/c of the abuse the previous owners had given it. Prob 5 or 6 teens had owned that car before me. Suspension creaked. Rearend howled. Transmission was wornout. Driveshaft splines were worn. Leaked all of it&#8217;s fluids constantly. Three speed tranny. Drum brakes. Leaned like a ship in a wind-storm on the curves. </p>
<p>Brakes went out TWICE going down the mountain where we lived. Darned signle circuit brakes so if one wheel cylinder failed they all failed. No wreck &#8211; somehow. Was in rush hour. Three speed tranny was awful. Driven other three speeds that were better I think. Not really enough power to go from 1st to 2nd. Ratios were too wide. Then the same problem from 2nd to 3rd. COuldn&#8217;t stay in 3rd once you got there b/c the engine didn&#8217;t have enough power. 3rd was still geared too low for highway use so 60 mph made the old six scream. All 120 HP of it. Or so the spec sheet promised. Later got a &#8216;64.5 convertible. Never restored it. After that got an &#8216;81 with that same six cylinder from the retired lady next door. This time with all the smog equipment it promised 90 whole HP from a 3.3L six. How smoke it was a lazy engine &#8211; and not in any kind of good way. Power everything and a slushbox. Slushbox went out 6 months later. Apparently it preferred to be left in drive all the time. No shifting for it. Worn clutches. </p>
<p>Like so many above have said &#8211; these cars all taught me something about driving. I loved them all for different reasons &#8211; sometimes the same reasons. The antiques taught me how easy modern cars were relative to the 1980s. The two 60s Mustangs showed me what owner neglect would do to a car and what a partial restoration would yield (problems forever). The &#8216;81 Mustang taught me how to travel b/c it went to college and the US Navy with me. </p>
<p>It was my trips overseas that Dad claims ruined me b/c I haven&#8217;t owned another domestic vehicle since. An &#8216;84 Rabbit &#8216;ver I had over there taught me how to drive 100mph+ without getting killed. It was all about rules of the road. Folks around here don&#8217;t have enough road discipline to drive like that all the time. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to have all of them back with a shop big enough to store and work on them, money to properly care for them, and time to drive them.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: rprellwitz</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1984 Corolla SR5
5-speed manual RWD
Silver / Blue

My mom took me on a country road and made me practice getting the car to move without applying any throttle.  

Took my drivers test in the same vehicle on my 16th birthday which was a day we recieved enough snow to cancel school yet the DMV was still open.

Great Car</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->1984 Corolla SR5<br />
5-speed manual RWD<br />
Silver / Blue</p>
<p>My mom took me on a country road and made me practice getting the car to move without applying any throttle.  </p>
<p>Took my drivers test in the same vehicle on my 16th birthday which was a day we recieved enough snow to cancel school yet the DMV was still open.</p>
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		<title>By: Mirko Reinhardt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mirko Reinhardt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 04:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At driving school (1998): Peugeot 306 with a fire-breathing 68hp diesel.

First own car: 1989 Nissan Sunny 1.6 hatch. Enormous fun, no a/c, power nothing.

First time driving an automatic: A few days later... &#039;95 Mercedes 300 turbodiesel wagon (I never want an auto)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->At driving school (1998): Peugeot 306 with a fire-breathing 68hp diesel.</p>
<p>First own car: 1989 Nissan Sunny 1.6 hatch. Enormous fun, no a/c, power nothing.</p>
<p>First time driving an automatic: A few days later&#8230; &#8216;95 Mercedes 300 turbodiesel wagon (I never want an auto)<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: RogerB34</title>
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		<dc:creator>RogerB34</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 00:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1935 Fordson tractor when I was 11 years old.  A mean machine.</description>
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		<title>By: John Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1986 Pontiac 6000LE.  The suspension was worn out, so it creaked like an old boat.  Accelerated like one, too.  There was no opportunity for hoonage -- I doubted it would go past 75 or take sharp corners and live to tell the tale.

At least the 2.8L V6 was relatively smooth and was surprisingly fuel efficient.

After that, I ran through a succession of Motor City iron -- and then I bought a LS400, which pretty much killed any future desire to own another car made by the Big 3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->1986 Pontiac 6000LE.  The suspension was worn out, so it creaked like an old boat.  Accelerated like one, too.  There was no opportunity for hoonage &#8212; I doubted it would go past 75 or take sharp corners and live to tell the tale.</p>
<p>At least the 2.8L V6 was relatively smooth and was surprisingly fuel efficient.</p>
<p>After that, I ran through a succession of Motor City iron &#8212; and then I bought a LS400, which pretty much killed any future desire to own another car made by the Big 3.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: oldyak</title>
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		<dc:creator>oldyak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1961 vw beetle</description>
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		<title>By: davey49</title>
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		<dc:creator>davey49</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 04:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1977 Honda Accord
1980 mazda GLC
1975 Datsun 610
1978 Buick Skyhawk
1981 Chevy Citation
GoKart
Take your pick, we had all of them at the same time</description>
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1980 mazda GLC<br />
1975 Datsun 610<br />
1978 Buick Skyhawk<br />
1981 Chevy Citation<br />
GoKart<br />
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		<title>By: nino</title>
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		<dc:creator>nino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 03:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1968 FIAT 124 Spider with the 1.6 liter engine.

Later on, a 1972 Buick Riviera &quot;Boattail&quot; with a 455 cu in V8. 

The Buick is the car I took my road test in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->1968 FIAT 124 Spider with the 1.6 liter engine.</p>
<p>Later on, a 1972 Buick Riviera &#8220;Boattail&#8221; with a 455 cu in V8. </p>
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		<title>By: casper00</title>
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		<dc:creator>casper00</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>89 toyota corolla</description>
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		<title>By: zenith</title>
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		<dc:creator>zenith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 20:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;55 Buick Century 2-door hardtop--non-power steering, wheel as big as a steamboat&#039;s. Couldn&#039;t parallel park for shit, as it had just a driver&#039;s side outside mirror.

Learned stick on a &#039;60 Chevy Biscayne. Learned to relax and have fun behind the wheel of this &quot;smaller&quot; car. Handled much better despite no power steering since it only had a 6 up front.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&#8216;55 Buick Century 2-door hardtop&#8211;non-power steering, wheel as big as a steamboat&#8217;s. Couldn&#8217;t parallel park for shit, as it had just a driver&#8217;s side outside mirror.</p>
<p>Learned stick on a &#8216;60 Chevy Biscayne. Learned to relax and have fun behind the wheel of this &#8220;smaller&#8221; car. Handled much better despite no power steering since it only had a 6 up front.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: supremebrougham</title>
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		<dc:creator>supremebrougham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My dad began teaching me to drive with my mom&#039;s 1985 Skylark (which would go on to be my first car) when I was about 12. He taught me how to back up using the mirrors and he&#039;d let me back it out of the garage a lot. I must have been pretty good because he was soon taking me to an apartment complex and letting me pilot his beautiful almost new 1986 Cutlass Supreme Brougham (Can you see why I am so obsessed with those cars?).

I was almost 16 when my dad bought a slightly used 1990 Nissan 4x4 pickup with a 5-speed. He would take me out in it and try to teach me how to drive it, but the constant yelling and screaming from him every time I stalled it out caused me to throw him out and teach myself! And yes, I did quite well, thank you very much :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->My dad began teaching me to drive with my mom&#8217;s 1985 Skylark (which would go on to be my first car) when I was about 12. He taught me how to back up using the mirrors and he&#8217;d let me back it out of the garage a lot. I must have been pretty good because he was soon taking me to an apartment complex and letting me pilot his beautiful almost new 1986 Cutlass Supreme Brougham (Can you see why I am so obsessed with those cars?).</p>
<p>I was almost 16 when my dad bought a slightly used 1990 Nissan 4&#215;4 pickup with a 5-speed. He would take me out in it and try to teach me how to drive it, but the constant yelling and screaming from him every time I stalled it out caused me to throw him out and teach myself! And yes, I did quite well, thank you very much :)<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Mrb00st</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrb00st</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well i piloted my first automobile when i was twelve... it was a 1998 Ford Expedition XLT 5.4L 4WD.  In an empty parking lot, but i still managed to hit a fence and dislodge the front bumper!

My driver&#039;s ed car was a real turd...  1996 Chev Cavalier, 2.2L OHV with a 3-speed slush-o-matic.  You floored it get on the highway and... it just made more noise but didn&#039;t go any faster, at least uphill.  Oh, and it had 180,000 miles on it.  A Cavalier with 180,000 driver&#039;s ed miles on it and the small engine and a 3 speed automatic.

First car was a Volvo 850 sedan.  Perfect first car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->well i piloted my first automobile when i was twelve&#8230; it was a 1998 Ford Expedition XLT 5.4L 4WD.  In an empty parking lot, but i still managed to hit a fence and dislodge the front bumper!</p>
<p>My driver&#8217;s ed car was a real turd&#8230;  1996 Chev Cavalier, 2.2L OHV with a 3-speed slush-o-matic.  You floored it get on the highway and&#8230; it just made more noise but didn&#8217;t go any faster, at least uphill.  Oh, and it had 180,000 miles on it.  A Cavalier with 180,000 driver&#8217;s ed miles on it and the small engine and a 3 speed automatic.</p>
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		<title>By: ambaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>ambaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1965 Mustang Convertible 289 4 barrel 4 speed.

What a fun car.  It was brand new, and I abused the living bejeezus out of it.  Blown clutch, two accidents, blown engine.  (Sorry Mom and Dad.)  But considering the way I treated it when they weren&#039;t looking, and the fact that it did last 100,000 miles, I can&#039;t really complain.

Hauled everything around in it including friends, and once my Honda CB 160 motorcycle in the back seat.</description>
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<p>What a fun car.  It was brand new, and I abused the living bejeezus out of it.  Blown clutch, two accidents, blown engine.  (Sorry Mom and Dad.)  But considering the way I treated it when they weren&#8217;t looking, and the fact that it did last 100,000 miles, I can&#8217;t really complain.</p>
<p>Hauled everything around in it including friends, and once my Honda CB 160 motorcycle in the back seat.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 15:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1996 Ford Windstar

3.8l V-6 engine
Suspension and brakes from an oil tanker</description>
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		<title>By: globnik</title>
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		<dc:creator>globnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dad&#039;s 1970 Plymouth Satellite and a 1975 Hornet Driver&#039;s Ed car.

Eek!</description>
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		<title>By: tdoyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>tdoyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1972 Nova in 1983, my San Diego driving instructors car.  He watched the girls in bikinis on the beach while I became a &quot;certified&quot; California-licensed driver.  It was great!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->1972 Nova in 1983, my San Diego driving instructors car.  He watched the girls in bikinis on the beach while I became a &#8220;certified&#8221; California-licensed driver.  It was great!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Martin B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 08:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;these Ford Taunus 17M had V4 engines&lt;/i&gt;

The Taunus 17M P5 model had a 1.7 L V4 engine from 1964 on. I referred to the previous P3 model which had a 1.7 L I4 engine. The Taunus &lt;i&gt;engine&lt;/i&gt; was a V4, but the Taunus &lt;i&gt;model&lt;/i&gt; had a variety of engines.

My dad&#039;s next car was a Ford Corsair with a V4 engine. It wasn&#039;t a bad engine as I recall, but there was no real benefit over an I4 and it was more expensive to make, so they dropped it.

A V6 or V8 is quite a bit shorter than the inline version, but not so much with a V4.</description>
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<p>The Taunus 17M P5 model had a 1.7 L V4 engine from 1964 on. I referred to the previous P3 model which had a 1.7 L I4 engine. The Taunus <i>engine</i> was a V4, but the Taunus <i>model</i> had a variety of engines.</p>
<p>My dad&#8217;s next car was a Ford Corsair with a V4 engine. It wasn&#8217;t a bad engine as I recall, but there was no real benefit over an I4 and it was more expensive to make, so they dropped it.</p>
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		<title>By: wmba</title>
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		<dc:creator>wmba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 06:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1960 Ford Anglia 4 on the floor, 1959 Ford Consul 3 on the tree, 1960 Plymouth Fury 2 speed auto. In 1962 when I was 14.  All highly illegal driving as the family lived on a dirt road 6 miles from town, which was itself in the boondocks, and I drove without permission when the family was out on trips in one or other of the cars.

If you rev a 39 hp 997cc Anglia engine (the basis of Cosworth&#039;s Formula Junior engine and their first money maker) to about 4 or 5 grand and dump the clutch, it will dig up a lot of gravel for, ooh, say, 20 or 30 feet, due to the overall 17 to one low gear ratio and miniscule 13 inch tires.  What fun!

A year or so later, just before my 16th birthday, my Mum let me drive that Anglia for about 30 miles illegally on a cross Nova Scotia paved highway with zero traffic, with her as tutor.  Discovered that driving is really about steering properly.  Wasn&#039;t expecting that.  To this day, I find only about half of people can really steer well.  They just don&#039;t get it.

Just last month, as I passed six cars at one go on a rural two lane, The Leggy GT maxed out to 6900rpm in third, my 88 year old Mom had a big grin on her face over in the passenger seat.  &quot;That was fun!&quot; she said.  Best female driver I was ever driven by, made my Dad look like a piker back in those old days, and well-known in our parts in the early sixties for driving everywhere at 70 to 80 mph, SMOOTHLY.  Inspired me to be a skilled driver if I really tried.  Unusual tale but true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->1960 Ford Anglia 4 on the floor, 1959 Ford Consul 3 on the tree, 1960 Plymouth Fury 2 speed auto. In 1962 when I was 14.  All highly illegal driving as the family lived on a dirt road 6 miles from town, which was itself in the boondocks, and I drove without permission when the family was out on trips in one or other of the cars.</p>
<p>If you rev a 39 hp 997cc Anglia engine (the basis of Cosworth&#8217;s Formula Junior engine and their first money maker) to about 4 or 5 grand and dump the clutch, it will dig up a lot of gravel for, ooh, say, 20 or 30 feet, due to the overall 17 to one low gear ratio and miniscule 13 inch tires.  What fun!</p>
<p>A year or so later, just before my 16th birthday, my Mum let me drive that Anglia for about 30 miles illegally on a cross Nova Scotia paved highway with zero traffic, with her as tutor.  Discovered that driving is really about steering properly.  Wasn&#8217;t expecting that.  To this day, I find only about half of people can really steer well.  They just don&#8217;t get it.</p>
<p>Just last month, as I passed six cars at one go on a rural two lane, The Leggy GT maxed out to 6900rpm in third, my 88 year old Mom had a big grin on her face over in the passenger seat.  &#8220;That was fun!&#8221; she said.  Best female driver I was ever driven by, made my Dad look like a piker back in those old days, and well-known in our parts in the early sixties for driving everywhere at 70 to 80 mph, SMOOTHLY.  Inspired me to be a skilled driver if I really tried.  Unusual tale but true.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: bmwfanboi</title>
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		<dc:creator>bmwfanboi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 05:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did drive the family 0ldsmobile station wagon over 100,000 miles, sitting in my dad&#039;s lap, when I was about 10.

I learned to drive in a &#039;76 Plymouth Volare station wagon, and learned to drive a manual in a &#039;61 International Scout. It had 3 fwd gears (6 if you count lo-range) and 90 hp and could get to 55 mph only on a downhill.</description>
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<p>I learned to drive in a &#8216;76 Plymouth Volare station wagon, and learned to drive a manual in a &#8216;61 International Scout. It had 3 fwd gears (6 if you count lo-range) and 90 hp and could get to 55 mph only on a downhill.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: James2</title>
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		<dc:creator>James2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>High school driver&#039;s ed: a POS Toyota Corolla, maybe an &#039;80, when it was a rear-driver! Gutless wonder, couldn&#039;t climb a hill to save its life (instructor kept telling me to floor it just to get going; I said I was!!), but my friend (also learning) said it would be easier to maneuver than the school&#039;s Buick Century Turbo (the triangle-shaped one). 

Away from school I practiced on a POS 1980 Ford Mustang (mom&#039;s) with a stupendous 88 bhp from its 3.3-liter straight-six. Engine just wouldn&#039;t rev. Post-dated memo to Ford: &lt;strong&gt;one&lt;/strong&gt;-barrel carburetors just don&#039;t cut it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->High school driver&#8217;s ed: a POS Toyota Corolla, maybe an &#8216;80, when it was a rear-driver! Gutless wonder, couldn&#8217;t climb a hill to save its life (instructor kept telling me to floor it just to get going; I said I was!!), but my friend (also learning) said it would be easier to maneuver than the school&#8217;s Buick Century Turbo (the triangle-shaped one). </p>
<p>Away from school I practiced on a POS 1980 Ford Mustang (mom&#8217;s) with a stupendous 88 bhp from its 3.3-liter straight-six. Engine just wouldn&#8217;t rev. Post-dated memo to Ford: <strong>one</strong>-barrel carburetors just don&#8217;t cut it.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Beelzebubba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beelzebubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 03:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My mom insisted that my sister and I both learn to drive in a car with a manual transmission.  My sister is almost three years older than me, so she had been driving a while before mom started teaching me.  She had already sold her first car (&#039;85 CRX) and traded up to an &#039;85 Nissan 300ZX.  Since the Z had a 5-speed manual, it was the car that I learned to drive in.  I also took my driving test in it on my 16th birthday.  

It was an &#039;85 300ZX 2-seater with T-Tops and had the oh-so-80&#039;s digital dashboard.  The color scheme was also very 80-s- the exterior was white (a little plain, but looked okay) but the interior was burgandy velour (about the same shade as a bloodclot).  Nissan was also into using silver metallic trim all over the console and parts of the lower dash.  

At the time, I thought it was the coolest car in the world.  It felt quicker than it actually was- especially with t-tops out, windows down and listening to the growl of the 3.0L V6.  The electronic instrument panel added the illusion of speed with it&#039;s massive bar-graph display of engine rpm- wind it up to 5,000rpm in 1st and the green bars would sweep both across and upward, though a digital numberic display above it showed the revs as well.  It felt like a BEAST!

I can only imagine what I&#039;d think of its performance today.  My Mazda3 5-door has the same amount of horsepower, accelerates faster and handles a thousand times better than the Z.  But the early/mid-80&#039;s were the very dark times for performance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->My mom insisted that my sister and I both learn to drive in a car with a manual transmission.  My sister is almost three years older than me, so she had been driving a while before mom started teaching me.  She had already sold her first car (&#8217;85 CRX) and traded up to an &#8216;85 Nissan 300ZX.  Since the Z had a 5-speed manual, it was the car that I learned to drive in.  I also took my driving test in it on my 16th birthday.  </p>
<p>It was an &#8216;85 300ZX 2-seater with T-Tops and had the oh-so-80&#8217;s digital dashboard.  The color scheme was also very 80-s- the exterior was white (a little plain, but looked okay) but the interior was burgandy velour (about the same shade as a bloodclot).  Nissan was also into using silver metallic trim all over the console and parts of the lower dash.  </p>
<p>At the time, I thought it was the coolest car in the world.  It felt quicker than it actually was- especially with t-tops out, windows down and listening to the growl of the 3.0L V6.  The electronic instrument panel added the illusion of speed with it&#8217;s massive bar-graph display of engine rpm- wind it up to 5,000rpm in 1st and the green bars would sweep both across and upward, though a digital numberic display above it showed the revs as well.  It felt like a BEAST!</p>
<p>I can only imagine what I&#8217;d think of its performance today.  My Mazda3 5-door has the same amount of horsepower, accelerates faster and handles a thousand times better than the Z.  But the early/mid-80&#8217;s were the very dark times for performance.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: SirRoxo</title>
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		<dc:creator>SirRoxo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 03:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well if you don&#039;t officially count the 88&#039; Buick Skylark when I was 6 years old i&#039;d have to say my dads 96&#039; Oldsmobile Ciera.  It was just as lofty but with a longer hood.  Eventually it became my first vehicle.  Joy oh joy.</description>
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		<title>By: Brendino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 02:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;95 Ford Taurus in the parking lot of the local airport.</description>
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		<title>By: Kevin Kluttz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Kluttz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A beautiful 1965 Pontiac Catalina with a trophy 389 V8.  Drove on Interstate 85 near Concord, NC when it was under construction in 1969.  The concrete was laid, but had no shoulders; only a 10-inch dropoff.  And my dad trusted me.  Oh, I was 12, by the way.  Got &#039;er up to 50 out there!!!  The governor kept me in check (dad saying &quot;OK, that&#039;s fine...&quot;  I son&#039;t remember how we got into the construction zone, but it was on a Sunday and he knew the roads...I guess we went around some gates and security wasn&#039;t what is is now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->A beautiful 1965 Pontiac Catalina with a trophy 389 V8.  Drove on Interstate 85 near Concord, NC when it was under construction in 1969.  The concrete was laid, but had no shoulders; only a 10-inch dropoff.  And my dad trusted me.  Oh, I was 12, by the way.  Got &#8216;er up to 50 out there!!!  The governor kept me in check (dad saying &#8220;OK, that&#8217;s fine&#8230;&#8221;  I son&#8217;t remember how we got into the construction zone, but it was on a Sunday and he knew the roads&#8230;I guess we went around some gates and security wasn&#8217;t what is is now.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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