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		<title>By: zenith</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/question-of-the-day-whats-your-favorite-flop/comment-page-2/#comment-1085022</link>
		<dc:creator>zenith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 17:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) Dodge Rampage. Would have been perfect with fuel injection, vice the strange carb, and with galvanized floors in the cab area as well as the box. 

2) Pontiac Aztek

3) The 5-speed stick version of the Chrysler minivan (&lt; 10% of total sales 1984-1990). Probably not as quick as the automatic/turbo version, but definitely kicked the 4-cylinder, 3-speed automatic&#039;s and was close to the performance of the V-6 3-litre version,as well.

4) AMC Eagle

Actually have owned #&#039;s 1-3 (still own #2). Nearly bought #4, but wife talked me out of it.</description>
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<p>2) Pontiac Aztek</p>
<p>3) The 5-speed stick version of the Chrysler minivan (&lt; 10% of total sales 1984-1990). Probably not as quick as the automatic/turbo version, but definitely kicked the 4-cylinder, 3-speed automatic&#8217;s and was close to the performance of the V-6 3-litre version,as well.</p>
<p>4) AMC Eagle</p>
<p>Actually have owned #&#8217;s 1-3 (still own #2). Nearly bought #4, but wife talked me out of it.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Demetri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Demetri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last generation of Honda Prelude.  It actually handled better than the RSX, not to mention a ton of other cars, and the styling was classic.</description>
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		<title>By: rottenbob</title>
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		<dc:creator>rottenbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 20:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dodge Mirada
Buick Reatta
Suzuki X-90 (my current ride)
1983 Plymouth Scamp pickup (only made one year)</description>
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Buick Reatta<br />
Suzuki X-90 (my current ride)<br />
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		<title>By: KeithBates</title>
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		<dc:creator>KeithBates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhh, the XR4Ti, much like the lamented Capri of the early 70s, &quot;Tuned&quot; to the likes
of the &quot;American Public&quot;, in other words, they tried to make them handle like a 
mid 70s Crown Vic.  Softening the suspension and removing any road feel, thats
what America needs, another livingroom recliner on wheels...

SteveL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Ahhh, the XR4Ti, much like the lamented Capri of the early 70s, &#8220;Tuned&#8221; to the likes<br />
of the &#8220;American Public&#8221;, in other words, they tried to make them handle like a<br />
mid 70s Crown Vic.  Softening the suspension and removing any road feel, thats<br />
what America needs, another livingroom recliner on wheels&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TomAnderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>TomAnderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2004-06 Pontiac GTO
VW Phaeton
Jaguar XJ Series 2 coupe (we have one)
Subaru SVX
Mercury Marauder
Toyota T100
Ford Mustang SVO
Oldsmobile Jetfire
Toyota Celica GT-Four/All-Trac Turbo
Audi V8 Quattro
Continental Mark II
1978-8x Olds and Buick &quot;aeroback&quot; intermediates (yeah, I&#039;m weird)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->2004-06 Pontiac GTO<br />
VW Phaeton<br />
Jaguar XJ Series 2 coupe (we have one)<br />
Subaru SVX<br />
Mercury Marauder<br />
Toyota T100<br />
Ford Mustang SVO<br />
Oldsmobile Jetfire<br />
Toyota Celica GT-Four/All-Trac Turbo<br />
Audi V8 Quattro<br />
Continental Mark II<br />
1978-8x Olds and Buick &#8220;aeroback&#8221; intermediates (yeah, I&#8217;m weird)<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: cretinx</title>
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		<dc:creator>cretinx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mazda RX-8

everyone gives me shit for loving this car, its JUST SO GOOD.</description>
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<p>everyone gives me shit for loving this car, its JUST SO GOOD.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Noam Notkidding</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noam Notkidding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Triumph TR-8
Rover 3500</description>
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		<title>By: psarhjinian</title>
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		<dc:creator>psarhjinian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saab.

All of them.</description>
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		<title>By: MotorCityIsBurning</title>
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		<dc:creator>MotorCityIsBurning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved my Aztek and my 9-2x Aero. Both so cheap and so fun for completely different reasons.</description>
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		<title>By: BerettaGTZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>BerettaGTZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Second vote on the Catera.  Look past the Cadillac badges, and you&#039;ll find a fine German sport sedan underneath, for real real cheap.  I&#039;ll also add the Saturn L-Series.  Really a rebadged Opel Vectra back in the days when Opels were true German-engineered cars and not watered-down global platform derivatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Second vote on the Catera.  Look past the Cadillac badges, and you&#8217;ll find a fine German sport sedan underneath, for real real cheap.  I&#8217;ll also add the Saturn L-Series.  Really a rebadged Opel Vectra back in the days when Opels were true German-engineered cars and not watered-down global platform derivatives.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Tiger Commanche</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiger Commanche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1990-92 Mitsubishi Gallant VR4.  It had the 4G63 turbo engine from the Eclipse, 4 doors, AWD, and a 5 speed.  Production was intentionally limited to a couple thousand per year, so not sure if that meets the definition of a &quot;sales flop.&quot;  

Speaking of the Subaru SVX which was mentioned a couple of times, it appeared in an episode of Worlds Wildest Police Chases the other night.  The car was unstoppable!  It did 100mph on the shoulder, went through a fence, went offroading on a golf course, was rammed by a Suburban 3 times, and the driver finally just pulled in a driveway and gave up.  I always loved that car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->1990-92 Mitsubishi Gallant VR4.  It had the 4G63 turbo engine from the Eclipse, 4 doors, AWD, and a 5 speed.  Production was intentionally limited to a couple thousand per year, so not sure if that meets the definition of a &#8220;sales flop.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Speaking of the Subaru SVX which was mentioned a couple of times, it appeared in an episode of Worlds Wildest Police Chases the other night.  The car was unstoppable!  It did 100mph on the shoulder, went through a fence, went offroading on a golf course, was rammed by a Suburban 3 times, and the driver finally just pulled in a driveway and gave up.  I always loved that car.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: NN</title>
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		<dc:creator>NN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Topic!

I&#039;ve always had a perverse interest in these cars, and a desire to buy them 2nd hand.  Here are some on my weird list:

Suzuki X-90: looks like a Sombrero on wheels, and comes in purple and teal!

Cadillac Catera: a bland, but not bad car that pre-empted the CTS.  The first of the recent Opel-sourced GMNA cars.

Isuzu i-Mark or Impulse: Isuzu&#039;s last cars

Isuzu Axiom: always thought it looked ahead of it&#039;s time

I love the new Saturn Astra, also...sorry it&#039;s a flop, but I bet it&#039;s a great car.

The original Subaru Brat is also awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Great Topic!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always had a perverse interest in these cars, and a desire to buy them 2nd hand.  Here are some on my weird list:</p>
<p>Suzuki X-90: looks like a Sombrero on wheels, and comes in purple and teal!</p>
<p>Cadillac Catera: a bland, but not bad car that pre-empted the CTS.  The first of the recent Opel-sourced GMNA cars.</p>
<p>Isuzu i-Mark or Impulse: Isuzu&#8217;s last cars</p>
<p>Isuzu Axiom: always thought it looked ahead of it&#8217;s time</p>
<p>I love the new Saturn Astra, also&#8230;sorry it&#8217;s a flop, but I bet it&#8217;s a great car.</p>
<p>The original Subaru Brat is also awesome.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Kurt.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks are going to hate me for this since I know it is Blasphamy to say anything negative against this marq but my vote goes for the 1981 Corvette Stingray. Now before I get hate mail and flamed to pieces, hear me out.

This car came when it not only had to get pass the stringent new EPA laws but also had to get 14 MPG! GM made them in two plants and rushed them to the public so quality was suspect compared to past versions. They added the bubble window to improve gas milage but with a choaked small block 350 at 180 hp, it was a dog compared to other Stingrays and the 80 MPH speedo let you know just how slow you had to go. 1982 saw the last of the Corvette before GM killed off the C3 for a year and came out with the ugly C4 &quot;Barbie&quot; car to replace it. 

I know it sold all GM could make but I think history will consider it a &quot;FLOP&quot;.

(No, I won&#039;t sell mine. I like loser cars. I also love my Suzuki Samurai!)

Kurt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Folks are going to hate me for this since I know it is Blasphamy to say anything negative against this marq but my vote goes for the 1981 Corvette Stingray. Now before I get hate mail and flamed to pieces, hear me out.</p>
<p>This car came when it not only had to get pass the stringent new EPA laws but also had to get 14 MPG! GM made them in two plants and rushed them to the public so quality was suspect compared to past versions. They added the bubble window to improve gas milage but with a choaked small block 350 at 180 hp, it was a dog compared to other Stingrays and the 80 MPH speedo let you know just how slow you had to go. 1982 saw the last of the Corvette before GM killed off the C3 for a year and came out with the ugly C4 &#8220;Barbie&#8221; car to replace it. </p>
<p>I know it sold all GM could make but I think history will consider it a &#8220;FLOP&#8221;.</p>
<p>(No, I won&#8217;t sell mine. I like loser cars. I also love my Suzuki Samurai!)</p>
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		<title>By: nehoc93</title>
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		<dc:creator>nehoc93</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I owned a Contour SVT that I would consider a market flop, even if it was very well received in the automotive press.  Of today&#039;s cars, I would say the Volvo C30.  I love the way it looks, but it just hasn&#039;t connected with buyers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I owned a Contour SVT that I would consider a market flop, even if it was very well received in the automotive press.  Of today&#8217;s cars, I would say the Volvo C30.  I love the way it looks, but it just hasn&#8217;t connected with buyers.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: DweezilSFV</title>
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		<dc:creator>DweezilSFV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bumpy:Dart never outsold the Corvair during the early 60&#039;s [except as a full size Dodge in 60]. The Lancer never cracked 100,000 or even got close.
Valiant 1960:146,000, 61: 143,000, 62: 154,000, 63: 225,000 64: 227,000 [the only year in that period that Corvair was outsold by anything Mopar].

Dart&#039;s first year as a Valiant derived name [1963] netted 109,000 units. 1964 saw 149,000.

Even with the Chevy II, the Corvair was still pulling in better #s than the Valiant, Dart, American, Comet or any of the BOP triplets IIRC. 

Given that rule of thumb , that would make my 63 Valiant Signet [35,000 units that year for the model] a &quot;sales loser&quot;.

It&#039;s still in my garage after 28 years. I guess it would qualify as &quot;my favorite flop&quot;.

BTW: Chevrolet&#039;s version of the X Car blew Ford&#039;s 1st year record out of the water with some 800,000 units of the Citation. The other X&#039;s adding another 300,000 units or so......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Bumpy:Dart never outsold the Corvair during the early 60&#8217;s [except as a full size Dodge in 60]. The Lancer never cracked 100,000 or even got close.<br />
Valiant 1960:146,000, 61: 143,000, 62: 154,000, 63: 225,000 64: 227,000 [the only year in that period that Corvair was outsold by anything Mopar].</p>
<p>Dart&#8217;s first year as a Valiant derived name [1963] netted 109,000 units. 1964 saw 149,000.</p>
<p>Even with the Chevy II, the Corvair was still pulling in better #s than the Valiant, Dart, American, Comet or any of the BOP triplets IIRC. </p>
<p>Given that rule of thumb , that would make my 63 Valiant Signet [35,000 units that year for the model] a &#8220;sales loser&#8221;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s still in my garage after 28 years. I guess it would qualify as &#8220;my favorite flop&#8221;.</p>
<p>BTW: Chevrolet&#8217;s version of the X Car blew Ford&#8217;s 1st year record out of the water with some 800,000 units of the Citation. The other X&#8217;s adding another 300,000 units or so&#8230;&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: JuniorMint</title>
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		<dc:creator>JuniorMint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Q: What do you call 3 Pontiac Azteks in a dealership lot?
A: A year&#039;s supply.

Everybody hated it, but my dad bought one back in the day.  IMO, it was one of the best-handling SUV&#039;s of the day, and c&#039;mon - don&#039;t you wish &lt;em&gt;your&lt;/em&gt; car could turn into a tent?

It was an excellent vehicle, if you could get past the package.  And when my little sister was looking for a roomy, decent-handling vehicle, the choice was obvious.  They&#039;re dirt-cheap, after all.

Of course, with a 1st-gen xB and an Aztek in the driveway, we risk carpet-bombing by the Fashion Police everytime we have a family get-together.  But that&#039;s a risk I&#039;m willing to take.</description>
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A: A year&#8217;s supply.</p>
<p>Everybody hated it, but my dad bought one back in the day.  IMO, it was one of the best-handling SUV&#8217;s of the day, and c&#8217;mon &#8211; don&#8217;t you wish <em>your</em> car could turn into a tent?</p>
<p>It was an excellent vehicle, if you could get past the package.  And when my little sister was looking for a roomy, decent-handling vehicle, the choice was obvious.  They&#8217;re dirt-cheap, after all.</p>
<p>Of course, with a 1st-gen xB and an Aztek in the driveway, we risk carpet-bombing by the Fashion Police everytime we have a family get-together.  But that&#8217;s a risk I&#8217;m willing to take.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Bunter1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bunter1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RX-8.

Great sports car.

Public reaction-&quot;RX what?&quot;

Bunter</description>
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<p>Great sports car.</p>
<p>Public reaction-&#8221;RX what?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ingvar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ingvar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;McLaren F1. Obviously not a flop in design or engineering, but the Brits hoped to move a lot more than they eventually did –which qualifies it as a flop, does it not?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

I&#039;m not so sure of that. They made about a hundred or so, and sold every one. Though perhaps there was a gap of a few years after production ended and before demand really surged. 

jaguar XJ220, on the other hand...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>&#8220;McLaren F1. Obviously not a flop in design or engineering, but the Brits hoped to move a lot more than they eventually did –which qualifies it as a flop, does it not?&#8221;</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not so sure of that. They made about a hundred or so, and sold every one. Though perhaps there was a gap of a few years after production ended and before demand really surged. </p>
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		<title>By: paykan GT</title>
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		<dc:creator>paykan GT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 07:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I&#039;m not sure what Piëch would call his swan song, but I do know that he was integral in Porsche being what it is today. He strikes me (admittedly a more-than-distant observation) as a megalomaniac and engineering genius.

They should build a shrine to him at the &#039;ring.

&#039;Oh lord Ferry, Bruce be thy game. . .&#039;</description>
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<p>They should build a shrine to him at the &#8216;ring.</p>
<p>&#8216;Oh lord Ferry, Bruce be thy game. . .&#8217;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: James2</title>
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		<dc:creator>James2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 07:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McLaren F1. Obviously not a flop in design or engineering, but the Brits hoped to move a lot more than they eventually did --which qualifies it as a flop, does it not?

Real world, I&#039;m with the SVO Mustang/Merkur XR4Ti crowd. I&#039;m just surprised no one else has gone with a biplane spoiler.</description>
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<p>Real world, I&#8217;m with the SVO Mustang/Merkur XR4Ti crowd. I&#8217;m just surprised no one else has gone with a biplane spoiler.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: paykan GT</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/question-of-the-day-whats-your-favorite-flop/comment-page-2/#comment-904872</link>
		<dc:creator>paykan GT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 06:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The VW Phaeton, beats Jaguar around the head with pace and grace, was developed as a swan-song for the lord of Bruce and is loved by our ever-truthful Mr. Farago.

And most of all, the great unwashed will ignore the big passat. Daily-drive and park it with confidence.

Phaeton: &#039;cause you came pre-equipped with self-esteem.

Read away:

http://tinyurl.com/6r6har

http://tinyurl.com/57gmnk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The VW Phaeton, beats Jaguar around the head with pace and grace, was developed as a swan-song for the lord of Bruce and is loved by our ever-truthful Mr. Farago.</p>
<p>And most of all, the great unwashed will ignore the big passat. Daily-drive and park it with confidence.</p>
<p>Phaeton: &#8217;cause you came pre-equipped with self-esteem.</p>
<p>Read away:</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/6r6har" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/6r6har</a></p>
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		<title>By: Krumple</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krumple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonny, Totally agree about the Mazdaspeed6.  But let&#039;s not forget my other car, the Mazda 323GTX!</description>
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		<title>By: Wolven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wolven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought my 74 Challenger when I was 18.  Thought it was the best looking (American) car ever made.  It only took 25 years for the rest of America to realize what they&#039;d missed...  :)</description>
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		<title>By: MagMax</title>
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		<dc:creator>MagMax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me it has to be the Kia Amanti.  The current version is actually a pretty good car with lots of power and much better handling than the first one that was imported.  And the ride was sooo comfortable on nasty surfaces.  In retrospect, I don&#039;t really understand what possessed me to buy it but I just had to have one and then lost my shirt when I traded it in.  Never again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->For me it has to be the Kia Amanti.  The current version is actually a pretty good car with lots of power and much better handling than the first one that was imported.  And the ride was sooo comfortable on nasty surfaces.  In retrospect, I don&#8217;t really understand what possessed me to buy it but I just had to have one and then lost my shirt when I traded it in.  Never again.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: M20E30</title>
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		<dc:creator>M20E30</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Subaru Alcyone/Alcyone SVX(1985-1997)</description>
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