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	<title>Comments on: Question of the Day: Should Car Reviews Mention 0 &#8211; 60 Time?</title>
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		<title>By: z4eva</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/question-of-the-day-should-car-reviews-mention-0-60-time/comment-page-2/#comment-1515558</link>
		<dc:creator>z4eva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 06:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, but since 0-60 time in a review is more important for discerning the car&#039;s feel than for predicting racing success, the review should also qualify the 0-60 time with questions such as:

1) How much wear and tear was imposed on the car/tires to get that time?  

2) What would the 0-60 time be if you drove the car like you owned it (and not like you stole it)?  This &lt;i&gt;could be&lt;/i&gt; the same as 5-60 time.

3) How many shifts were required?  Does the car &lt;i&gt;test&lt;/i&gt; especially fast because it&#039;s geared to get to 60 just before the shift to 3rd?

4) 0-30 time vs 30-60 time?  Does it punch you in the chest and then let off (muscle car), or does it really pick up once the revs are up (Honda VTEC)?

And, btw, I think you&#039;d be hard-pressed to buy a new car that truly has trouble merging onto the freeway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Yes, but since 0-60 time in a review is more important for discerning the car&#8217;s feel than for predicting racing success, the review should also qualify the 0-60 time with questions such as:</p>
<p>1) How much wear and tear was imposed on the car/tires to get that time?  </p>
<p>2) What would the 0-60 time be if you drove the car like you owned it (and not like you stole it)?  This <i>could be</i> the same as 5-60 time.</p>
<p>3) How many shifts were required?  Does the car <i>test</i> especially fast because it&#8217;s geared to get to 60 just before the shift to 3rd?</p>
<p>4) 0-30 time vs 30-60 time?  Does it punch you in the chest and then let off (muscle car), or does it really pick up once the revs are up (Honda VTEC)?</p>
<p>And, btw, I think you&#8217;d be hard-pressed to buy a new car that truly has trouble merging onto the freeway.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: cretinx</title>
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		<dc:creator>cretinx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>trap speed
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this tells me what the car is actually capable of

0-60 tells me what Billy can do when he takes his mom&#039;s car out to cruise stoplight to stoplight.</description>
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<p>this tells me what the car is actually capable of</p>
<p>0-60 tells me what Billy can do when he takes his mom&#8217;s car out to cruise stoplight to stoplight.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: vassilis</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/question-of-the-day-should-car-reviews-mention-0-60-time/comment-page-2/#comment-1139221</link>
		<dc:creator>vassilis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dougjp:

I agree everyone&#039;s priorities are different. But, R&amp;D is influenced by market(ing)demand. In Europe, you just cannot e.g. sell a new hot-hatch without 0-60 in the sub-8 second area. It is a selling point - even if it means compromising the rest of the gearing.

Another point: With most modern diesel cars you can drive around town all day with 3rd gear engaged with all that torque. What metric to use for that? I know, you are right, it is (0-60) the established standard and almost impossible to change. It is just so limited. And depending on so many factors: Try to &quot;confirm&quot; the official figure for a Honda S2000 with worn out tires.</description>
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<p>I agree everyone&#8217;s priorities are different. But, R&amp;D is influenced by market(ing)demand. In Europe, you just cannot e.g. sell a new hot-hatch without 0-60 in the sub-8 second area. It is a selling point &#8211; even if it means compromising the rest of the gearing.</p>
<p>Another point: With most modern diesel cars you can drive around town all day with 3rd gear engaged with all that torque. What metric to use for that? I know, you are right, it is (0-60) the established standard and almost impossible to change. It is just so limited. And depending on so many factors: Try to &#8220;confirm&#8221; the official figure for a Honda S2000 with worn out tires.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: T2</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/question-of-the-day-should-car-reviews-mention-0-60-time/comment-page-2/#comment-1139161</link>
		<dc:creator>T2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the numbers ?
It should be noted that the the 0 to sixty is the auto equivalent of a 110 meter sprint. In a lot of cars that can be accomplished in 2nd gear alone. It tests the engine but not the transmission. More than that it is probable that manufacturerers select gears for that metric and tune gear ratios accordingly.

Sixty mph can be accomplished by holding 2nd gear until 7100rpm in a 1.8L Corolla XRS. It sure looks like the 2nd gear of 1.88 with 4.7 final was chosen to meet this benchmark.

The average buyer is probably satisfied with a 0 to sixty time of 8 seconds which  at a linear accel rate covers 352 feet.
However the performance driver will want to see a little more power, speed and some clutch action factored in. For that there&#039;s the 1/4 mile.

The 1/4 mile of 1320 feet should predict a terminal speed for the XRS around 120mph with the same acceleration but for the torque dilution of 3rd and 4th gear even with 164Hp under the hood. This of course is where the really powerful cars can differentiate themselves with the 1/4 mile metric since they will probably be able to top out in third gear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->What about the numbers ?<br />
It should be noted that the the 0 to sixty is the auto equivalent of a 110 meter sprint. In a lot of cars that can be accomplished in 2nd gear alone. It tests the engine but not the transmission. More than that it is probable that manufacturerers select gears for that metric and tune gear ratios accordingly.</p>
<p>Sixty mph can be accomplished by holding 2nd gear until 7100rpm in a 1.8L Corolla XRS. It sure looks like the 2nd gear of 1.88 with 4.7 final was chosen to meet this benchmark.</p>
<p>The average buyer is probably satisfied with a 0 to sixty time of 8 seconds which  at a linear accel rate covers 352 feet.<br />
However the performance driver will want to see a little more power, speed and some clutch action factored in. For that there&#8217;s the 1/4 mile.</p>
<p>The 1/4 mile of 1320 feet should predict a terminal speed for the XRS around 120mph with the same acceleration but for the torque dilution of 3rd and 4th gear even with 164Hp under the hood. This of course is where the really powerful cars can differentiate themselves with the 1/4 mile metric since they will probably be able to top out in third gear.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: dougjp</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/question-of-the-day-should-car-reviews-mention-0-60-time/comment-page-2/#comment-1138631</link>
		<dc:creator>dougjp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 14:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice story about German Autobahns and agree with your examples for that type of environment. 

However I&#039;d rather focus on reality when looking at benchmarks during a period when I&#039;m looking to buy. Almost all the time, that involves the feel, abilities and satisfaction provided by the car I&#039;m driving. And 0-60 covers off the acceleration &quot;feel&quot; part much better than those others, because I&#039;m living in that range +/- 20. Oh there could be variants too, like 5-60, 20-75 or whatever. 

Its hard after so many years with an established standard of measurement to create a new one. Mind you, everyone&#039;s priorities are different so nobody is going to influence anyone. If driving satisfaction comes from less capable but more fuel efficient gearboxes, then enjoy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Nice story about German Autobahns and agree with your examples for that type of environment. </p>
<p>However I&#8217;d rather focus on reality when looking at benchmarks during a period when I&#8217;m looking to buy. Almost all the time, that involves the feel, abilities and satisfaction provided by the car I&#8217;m driving. And 0-60 covers off the acceleration &#8220;feel&#8221; part much better than those others, because I&#8217;m living in that range +/- 20. Oh there could be variants too, like 5-60, 20-75 or whatever. </p>
<p>Its hard after so many years with an established standard of measurement to create a new one. Mind you, everyone&#8217;s priorities are different so nobody is going to influence anyone. If driving satisfaction comes from less capable but more fuel efficient gearboxes, then enjoy.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: vassilis</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/question-of-the-day-should-car-reviews-mention-0-60-time/comment-page-2/#comment-1138562</link>
		<dc:creator>vassilis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 13:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>0-60 is just an indicative figure that IMO prevents companies from developing more advanced and fuel efficient gearboxes. Reason is that the 0-60 mph is such a commanding figure in the mind of every petrolhead that overshadows almost every other aspect of a car&#039;s performance. And the marketing people of every company are demanding a sound 0-60 number.

I think anyone who has driven in Germany will have noticed that the vehicles going flat-out are usually Audis, BMW and Mercedes with a TDI, d or CDI badge. The 50-100 figure in a 335d for example, is in supercar territory mainly because of the 428 pound feet of torque. The 6 seconds for 0-60 is so relative: It takes a 911 to keep up with the 335d on the motorway. 

Even a Golf GTD will cruise happily at +110 mph while the 0-60 is a mediocre 10 seconds. The 0-60 is indicating pretty much... nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->0-60 is just an indicative figure that IMO prevents companies from developing more advanced and fuel efficient gearboxes. Reason is that the 0-60 mph is such a commanding figure in the mind of every petrolhead that overshadows almost every other aspect of a car&#8217;s performance. And the marketing people of every company are demanding a sound 0-60 number.</p>
<p>I think anyone who has driven in Germany will have noticed that the vehicles going flat-out are usually Audis, BMW and Mercedes with a TDI, d or CDI badge. The 50-100 figure in a 335d for example, is in supercar territory mainly because of the 428 pound feet of torque. The 6 seconds for 0-60 is so relative: It takes a 911 to keep up with the 335d on the motorway. </p>
<p>Even a Golf GTD will cruise happily at +110 mph while the 0-60 is a mediocre 10 seconds. The 0-60 is indicating pretty much&#8230; nothing.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: kamikaze2b</title>
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		<dc:creator>kamikaze2b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 09:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>0-60, 1/4 mile times, skidpad numbers, braking distance etc should always been included. So many reviews are subjective. I appreciate some numbers in simple black and white.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->0-60, 1/4 mile times, skidpad numbers, braking distance etc should always been included. So many reviews are subjective. I appreciate some numbers in simple black and white.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: 49erDweet</title>
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		<dc:creator>49erDweet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 07:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a figure that can quickly be used to pique one&#039;s attention, or not, like a guy hearing the new girl at the office is a &quot;36-22-36&quot; [sorry, ladies].  Neither data point is the end-all.  It is just an attention-getter, requiring additional checking out before a decision is reached.  In my view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->It&#8217;s a figure that can quickly be used to pique one&#8217;s attention, or not, like a guy hearing the new girl at the office is a &#8220;36-22-36&#8243; [sorry, ladies].  Neither data point is the end-all.  It is just an attention-getter, requiring additional checking out before a decision is reached.  In my view.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: reclusive_in_nature</title>
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		<dc:creator>reclusive_in_nature</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 07:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think 0-60 should be advertised more often. Not many people know that &quot;lowly&quot; Chevrolet has cars capable of sub 6 second 0-60 times that cost about 15k-22k (Cobalt SS and Impala SS). If this fact was marketed more GM would be a little better off than what it is now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I think 0-60 should be advertised more often. Not many people know that &#8220;lowly&#8221; Chevrolet has cars capable of sub 6 second 0-60 times that cost about 15k-22k (Cobalt SS and Impala SS). If this fact was marketed more GM would be a little better off than what it is now.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: James2</title>
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		<dc:creator>James2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 05:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The two most fun cars I&#039;ve ever had were a 82-bhp Mazda 323 and a 164-bhp Ford Probe GT. Neither would impress anyone with their 0-60 times, but I didn&#039;t give a damn. Acceleration metrics are a good indicator of relative performance, but to me &quot;fun&quot; is immeasurable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The two most fun cars I&#8217;ve ever had were a 82-bhp Mazda 323 and a 164-bhp Ford Probe GT. Neither would impress anyone with their 0-60 times, but I didn&#8217;t give a damn. Acceleration metrics are a good indicator of relative performance, but to me &#8220;fun&#8221; is immeasurable.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: chaparral</title>
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		<dc:creator>chaparral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 05:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A far better measurement is 50-100. 

First, you get the 50 MPH start, which ensures that there&#039;s next to no added stress on anything. 

Second, you get the 100 MPH finish, which will show up power or aerodynamic deficiencies.

Third, it takes a relatively long time (5-30 seconds) and allows cars of broadly similar performance to be separated. 

Fourth, it allows you to see the differences between cars &lt;i&gt;in the range where power is most important in street use . Most cars are traction-limited until 30 now. 

Finally, it&#039;s not something that can be tricked easily - you don&#039;t get to fiddle with staging or timing gear, and applying full power at 50 MPH doesn&#039;t break traction on anything that doesn&#039;t need a measure of straight-line performance that includes speeds over 130 MPH...&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->A far better measurement is 50-100. </p>
<p>First, you get the 50 MPH start, which ensures that there&#8217;s next to no added stress on anything. </p>
<p>Second, you get the 100 MPH finish, which will show up power or aerodynamic deficiencies.</p>
<p>Third, it takes a relatively long time (5-30 seconds) and allows cars of broadly similar performance to be separated. </p>
<p>Fourth, it allows you to see the differences between cars <i>in the range where power is most important in street use . Most cars are traction-limited until 30 now. </p>
<p>Finally, it&#8217;s not something that can be tricked easily &#8211; you don&#8217;t get to fiddle with staging or timing gear, and applying full power at 50 MPH doesn&#8217;t break traction on anything that doesn&#8217;t need a measure of straight-line performance that includes speeds over 130 MPH&#8230;</i><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: dougjp</title>
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		<dc:creator>dougjp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 03:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>0-60 is religion, grew up on it. Not the only thing mind you, but just one thing that tells me how I might enjoy that part of a car&#039;s performance equation. 

When shopping for cars, I use 0-60 comparison sites to eliminate inadequate cars when narrowing down the list to look at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->0-60 is religion, grew up on it. Not the only thing mind you, but just one thing that tells me how I might enjoy that part of a car&#8217;s performance equation. </p>
<p>When shopping for cars, I use 0-60 comparison sites to eliminate inadequate cars when narrowing down the list to look at.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: MBella</title>
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		<dc:creator>MBella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To get a somewhat good idea of a performance of a car, you need all of the common tests. 0-60 by itself doesn&#039;t mean much, but adding 1/4 mile times, slalom tests, etc, gives you as good an idea as you can, without driving the cars yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->To get a somewhat good idea of a performance of a car, you need all of the common tests. 0-60 by itself doesn&#8217;t mean much, but adding 1/4 mile times, slalom tests, etc, gives you as good an idea as you can, without driving the cars yourself.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: konaforever</title>
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		<dc:creator>konaforever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and I think using 0-60 is fine. What I have a problem with in Jonny&#039;s review is that it was the end all be all of performance numbers that he used to compare cars. How much space does 1/4 mile time add?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Oh, and I think using 0-60 is fine. What I have a problem with in Jonny&#8217;s review is that it was the end all be all of performance numbers that he used to compare cars. How much space does 1/4 mile time add?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: 49erDweet</title>
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		<dc:creator>49erDweet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to report on cars for people who use them you&#039;ll need to include 0-60 data.  Its something everyone going through puberty thinks about while dreaming of their &quot;first&quot; cars.

If you&#039;re catering to eggheads and stylists, those who think cars are something &lt;i&gt;more&lt;/i&gt; than mere transportation, you&#039;ll need a lot more space than you&#039;ve been allotted.  Stick with something that&#039;s been around for at least six decades, or plan on losing the larger part of your audience.  Its that simple.  Your choice, of course.

Good review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->If you want to report on cars for people who use them you&#8217;ll need to include 0-60 data.  Its something everyone going through puberty thinks about while dreaming of their &#8220;first&#8221; cars.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re catering to eggheads and stylists, those who think cars are something <i>more</i> than mere transportation, you&#8217;ll need a lot more space than you&#8217;ve been allotted.  Stick with something that&#8217;s been around for at least six decades, or plan on losing the larger part of your audience.  Its that simple.  Your choice, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Areitu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Areitu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. But like the 1/4 mile and MPG, it&#039;s an easy way to metrics against other cars./

0-100-0 needs to make a comeback! 

Dave Coleman, formerly of Sport Compact Car, wrote an editorial about 0-60 times a while back. He used a speed/acceleration graph, which dip during gear changes, and observed they all hit 62 (100kph) at the top of 2nd gear, since a shift takes away from 0-60 times. 

Granted, they were all budget sport compacts, I like to see more cars with proper gearing as opposed to cars with a super-short first gear and a long 2nd gear designed to reach 62 without shifting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->No. But like the 1/4 mile and MPG, it&#8217;s an easy way to metrics against other cars./</p>
<p>0-100-0 needs to make a comeback! </p>
<p>Dave Coleman, formerly of Sport Compact Car, wrote an editorial about 0-60 times a while back. He used a speed/acceleration graph, which dip during gear changes, and observed they all hit 62 (100kph) at the top of 2nd gear, since a shift takes away from 0-60 times. </p>
<p>Granted, they were all budget sport compacts, I like to see more cars with proper gearing as opposed to cars with a super-short first gear and a long 2nd gear designed to reach 62 without shifting.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: konaforever</title>
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		<dc:creator>konaforever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;What does it tell you about the driving experience?? Anyone can go in a straight line “really fast” and the trap speed (power - not torque) is meaningless in most countries other than Germany.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;

And 0-60 for performance cars doesn&#039;t tell you much. You&#039;re barely in 2nd gear for most cars. Still in first for some. 

Trap speed is an indicator of the car&#039;s capabilties. Why have 500 HP if you&#039;re just going to go to 60?

Just sounds like you have a bias against drag racing. The 1/4 is useful.

Dyno is useful, but doesn&#039;t include gearing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><strong><em>What does it tell you about the driving experience?? Anyone can go in a straight line “really fast” and the trap speed (power &#8211; not torque) is meaningless in most countries other than Germany.</em></strong></p>
<p>And 0-60 for performance cars doesn&#8217;t tell you much. You&#8217;re barely in 2nd gear for most cars. Still in first for some. </p>
<p>Trap speed is an indicator of the car&#8217;s capabilties. Why have 500 HP if you&#8217;re just going to go to 60?</p>
<p>Just sounds like you have a bias against drag racing. The 1/4 is useful.</p>
<p>Dyno is useful, but doesn&#8217;t include gearing.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: PeteMoran</title>
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		<dc:creator>PeteMoran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ konaforever

&lt;em&gt;1/4 with trap speed and time tells you a lot about a car’s performance.&lt;/em&gt;

What does it tell you about the driving experience?? Anyone can go in a straight line &quot;really fast&quot; and the trap speed (power - not torque) is meaningless in most countries other than Germany.

Americans are (were?) obsessed with the quarter. 

I&#039;d rather have dyno sheet.</description>
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<p><em>1/4 with trap speed and time tells you a lot about a car’s performance.</em></p>
<p>What does it tell you about the driving experience?? Anyone can go in a straight line &#8220;really fast&#8221; and the trap speed (power &#8211; not torque) is meaningless in most countries other than Germany.</p>
<p>Americans are (were?) obsessed with the quarter. </p>
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		<title>By: Stephan Wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/question-of-the-day-should-car-reviews-mention-0-60-time/comment-page-1/#comment-1137791</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephan Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s been 30 years since I actually cared how long it took a car to reach 60.</description>
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		<title>By: konaforever</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/question-of-the-day-should-car-reviews-mention-0-60-time/comment-page-1/#comment-1137772</link>
		<dc:creator>konaforever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;em&gt;0-60 is cool but it’s the quarter mile time is the dumbest metric.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

And why is that? It tells you more about a performance car&#039;s capabilites than 0-60.

1/4 with trap speed and time tells you a lot about a car&#039;s performance. The WRX may have a low trap time(mid 13&#039;s), but if the MPH are low too(which is usually is comparatively) than you can tell it&#039;s zippy off the line, but slows down at higher speeds.

1/4 mile time tells me more than 0-60.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><b><em>0-60 is cool but it’s the quarter mile time is the dumbest metric.</em></b></p>
<p>And why is that? It tells you more about a performance car&#8217;s capabilites than 0-60.</p>
<p>1/4 with trap speed and time tells you a lot about a car&#8217;s performance. The WRX may have a low trap time(mid 13&#8217;s), but if the MPH are low too(which is usually is comparatively) than you can tell it&#8217;s zippy off the line, but slows down at higher speeds.</p>
<p>1/4 mile time tells me more than 0-60.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: argentla</title>
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		<dc:creator>argentla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. I prefer to see both 0-60 (or 0-100 km) and quarter mile figures (both ET and trap speed). 0-60 is a useful metric just because it&#039;s been used for 60 years, while the standing quarter mile (or standing 400 m) gives a good idea of the shape of the torque curve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Yes. I prefer to see both 0-60 (or 0-100 km) and quarter mile figures (both ET and trap speed). 0-60 is a useful metric just because it&#8217;s been used for 60 years, while the standing quarter mile (or standing 400 m) gives a good idea of the shape of the torque curve.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Buckshot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buckshot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To measure 0-100 km/h(ca 0-60mph) has been done since the stoneage ;)
It may not be the most important measure, but it´s a yardstick that you can use to compare cars from all times, so yes.
I keep hearing that in usa you need fast acceleration to get on the highway.
What´s up with that?
Is the onramps very short?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->To measure 0-100 km/h(ca 0-60mph) has been done since the stoneage ;)<br />
It may not be the most important measure, but it´s a yardstick that you can use to compare cars from all times, so yes.<br />
I keep hearing that in usa you need fast acceleration to get on the highway.<br />
What´s up with that?<br />
Is the onramps very short?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jcp2</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/question-of-the-day-should-car-reviews-mention-0-60-time/comment-page-1/#comment-1137692</link>
		<dc:creator>jcp2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the point of 0-60 mph time is to judge merging potential, wouldn&#039;t 0-60 mph distance be more relevant, in the same way the 60-0 mph braking distance is relevant? I&#039;m not looking at my stopwatch when driving, I&#039;m judging distances and car spacing by eye. Hopefully, 0-60 mph (or 0-80 mph) distances can be used to redesign the stupidly short merge lanes here in SE Michigan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->If the point of 0-60 mph time is to judge merging potential, wouldn&#8217;t 0-60 mph distance be more relevant, in the same way the 60-0 mph braking distance is relevant? I&#8217;m not looking at my stopwatch when driving, I&#8217;m judging distances and car spacing by eye. Hopefully, 0-60 mph (or 0-80 mph) distances can be used to redesign the stupidly short merge lanes here in SE Michigan.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: baaron</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/question-of-the-day-should-car-reviews-mention-0-60-time/comment-page-1/#comment-1137691</link>
		<dc:creator>baaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like graphs.

I&#039;m far more interested in a dyno chart of rpm vs torque and horsepower than a 0 to whatever time. Oh, and 1/4 mile time vs speed would be interesting too. I&#039;ve never seen that before.

Lap times are not very meaningful because each track is different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I like graphs.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m far more interested in a dyno chart of rpm vs torque and horsepower than a 0 to whatever time. Oh, and 1/4 mile time vs speed would be interesting too. I&#8217;ve never seen that before.</p>
<p>Lap times are not very meaningful because each track is different.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: PeteMoran</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/question-of-the-day-should-car-reviews-mention-0-60-time/comment-page-1/#comment-1137682</link>
		<dc:creator>PeteMoran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>0-60 is cool but it&#039;s the quarter mile time is the &lt;em&gt;dumbest&lt;/em&gt; metric.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->0-60 is cool but it&#8217;s the quarter mile time is the <em>dumbest</em> metric.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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