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		<title>By: John_G</title>
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		<dc:creator>John_G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got 3i manual 2008. Currently my milage 28/37 which is noticebly better than the steacker says 24/33.
The engine is powerfull (you would not need more) and very fuel efficient. Time will reveal the car reliability.</description>
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The engine is powerfull (you would not need more) and very fuel efficient. Time will reveal the car reliability.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: VelocityRed3</title>
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		<dc:creator>VelocityRed3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I broke down &amp; registered, just so I could show some love for my 3!


I got a Velocity Red 06 3i (2.0L Manual) 3 days after Katrina with 2 miles on it.  As I type these words it has just a little over 84,000.

Like austinseven &amp; a very few others noted I think the 2.0L engine is superior.  You only lose about 13HP &amp; 10 foot-pounds of torque for 5mpg on the highway.  Plus the GT/Touring are some 400lbs heavier than the i.  

Someone noted that parts are exspensive.  Of course dealer pricing can be all over the place &amp; it is best to shop around in your market.  However, short of the huge aftermarket for Honda&#039;s I would contend that Mazda AM parts are second to none.  eBay is your friend.  On eBay there are thousand of parts straight from the factory in Hiroshima.  Want some G35-like LED tail lights?  200 bucks.  Like the BMW cat&#039;s eye xenon headlight profile.  400.  Want to take that standard 5 speed shifter &amp; turn it into a &quot;short-shifter?  300 dollars &amp; 3 hours of your time.  Make your base i as stiff as a GT, get all 3 swaybars for 200 &amp; put em&#039; on yourself.  The point is, there is a huge fanboi underground market that  realized, like TTAC, that the Mazda 3 is just one hell of a car.


I routinely get 31 mpg of  with average speeds of 75 to 80mph on my 80 mile per day commute, here in the Atlanta area.   With my base radio upgraded to a pioneer Nav unit, I have a pleasant enough drive, that I actaully look forward to it at the end of the day.  Now I will say, that while the handling is exceptional, extremely bumpy roads will upset her trim, but just easing off the throttle a litte, clears that right up.  The only really bad thing, is that the engine can be a bit buzzy on very long trips.

In closing the sheer utility of this car is overwhelming.  I can really not think of any other car, in any price range, that does as many things right as this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Well I broke down &amp; registered, just so I could show some love for my 3!</p>
<p>I got a Velocity Red 06 3i (2.0L Manual) 3 days after Katrina with 2 miles on it.  As I type these words it has just a little over 84,000.</p>
<p>Like austinseven &amp; a very few others noted I think the 2.0L engine is superior.  You only lose about 13HP &amp; 10 foot-pounds of torque for 5mpg on the highway.  Plus the GT/Touring are some 400lbs heavier than the i.  </p>
<p>Someone noted that parts are exspensive.  Of course dealer pricing can be all over the place &amp; it is best to shop around in your market.  However, short of the huge aftermarket for Honda&#8217;s I would contend that Mazda AM parts are second to none.  eBay is your friend.  On eBay there are thousand of parts straight from the factory in Hiroshima.  Want some G35-like LED tail lights?  200 bucks.  Like the BMW cat&#8217;s eye xenon headlight profile.  400.  Want to take that standard 5 speed shifter &amp; turn it into a &#8220;short-shifter?  300 dollars &amp; 3 hours of your time.  Make your base i as stiff as a GT, get all 3 swaybars for 200 &amp; put em&#8217; on yourself.  The point is, there is a huge fanboi underground market that  realized, like TTAC, that the Mazda 3 is just one hell of a car.</p>
<p>I routinely get 31 mpg of  with average speeds of 75 to 80mph on my 80 mile per day commute, here in the Atlanta area.   With my base radio upgraded to a pioneer Nav unit, I have a pleasant enough drive, that I actaully look forward to it at the end of the day.  Now I will say, that while the handling is exceptional, extremely bumpy roads will upset her trim, but just easing off the throttle a litte, clears that right up.  The only really bad thing, is that the engine can be a bit buzzy on very long trips.</p>
<p>In closing the sheer utility of this car is overwhelming.  I can really not think of any other car, in any price range, that does as many things right as this one.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: rpn453</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought one because I thought it was the best car for the money.  4-1/2 years later, I still do.  I&#039;ve driven the Fit and I think the Mazda3 kicks its ass in every way except fuel economy.</description>
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		<title>By: cretinx</title>
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		<dc:creator>cretinx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve driven the base model 3 repeatedly (girlfriend had one, had one in Puerto Rico) and gotten 35 mpg consistently from the car.  Which, due to the lower weight, is just as fast as the 2.3L engine.

I LOVE me the base 3 - its even better than the Civic - and I&#039;m a Honda fanboy - handling, power, fuel economy, fit and finish - all top notch (for an economy car)

I even like the base 3 better than the Speed3 - its more frugal, way lighter (so more fun toss into the corners) and about $10,000 cheaper.

Take that $10,000 and go buy yourself a used LS1 Z28 if you want to go fast in a straight line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I&#8217;ve driven the base model 3 repeatedly (girlfriend had one, had one in Puerto Rico) and gotten 35 mpg consistently from the car.  Which, due to the lower weight, is just as fast as the 2.3L engine.</p>
<p>I LOVE me the base 3 &#8211; its even better than the Civic &#8211; and I&#8217;m a Honda fanboy &#8211; handling, power, fuel economy, fit and finish &#8211; all top notch (for an economy car)</p>
<p>I even like the base 3 better than the Speed3 &#8211; its more frugal, way lighter (so more fun toss into the corners) and about $10,000 cheaper.</p>
<p>Take that $10,000 and go buy yourself a used LS1 Z28 if you want to go fast in a straight line.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ambulancechaser</title>
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		<dc:creator>ambulancechaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is getting ridiculous.  You&#039;re all starting to sound like so many single women in their mid thirties wondering why they can&#039;t find the perfect man.  &quot;I want a small five door car that has tons of power and torque, gets 30MPG or higher, handles like a lotus, rides like a Merc, has an interior like a lexus ES, with rear wheel or symetrical all wheel drive, thats bullet proof reliable, thats got the style of an alfa, and costs less than a Mazda 3.&quot;  

Good luck with that.  If you find it, let me know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->This is getting ridiculous.  You&#8217;re all starting to sound like so many single women in their mid thirties wondering why they can&#8217;t find the perfect man.  &#8220;I want a small five door car that has tons of power and torque, gets 30MPG or higher, handles like a lotus, rides like a Merc, has an interior like a lexus ES, with rear wheel or symetrical all wheel drive, thats bullet proof reliable, thats got the style of an alfa, and costs less than a Mazda 3.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Good luck with that.  If you find it, let me know.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: alex_rashev</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex_rashev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA












I&#039;ll tell you how the Three made the list. It was the least offensive car.

Everybody has their preferences, their favorites, and usually it&#039;s not a porky hatchback with good driving dynamics and lousy mileage. But since we get to pick up to 10 cars, we always select cars that we &quot;don&#039;t mind&quot;. End result, while Mazda3 wasn&#039;t on the top of anyone&#039;s Best Cars Ever list, it was THE car that all of us found to be &quot;good enough&quot;. As a result, since we all were &quot;OK&quot; with it, it was on the top. 

I say, we just exposed a fundamental flaw in this voting system. The voting should either be point-based (as in, give all 10 points to one car, or give 5 to one, 3 to second best, and 1 each to the other two, for example), or we should only select ONE car, period.

There ya go, nothing unusual... Disperse, disperse... Nothing to see here...</description>
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<p>I&#8217;ll tell you how the Three made the list. It was the least offensive car.</p>
<p>Everybody has their preferences, their favorites, and usually it&#8217;s not a porky hatchback with good driving dynamics and lousy mileage. But since we get to pick up to 10 cars, we always select cars that we &#8220;don&#8217;t mind&#8221;. End result, while Mazda3 wasn&#8217;t on the top of anyone&#8217;s Best Cars Ever list, it was THE car that all of us found to be &#8220;good enough&#8221;. As a result, since we all were &#8220;OK&#8221; with it, it was on the top. </p>
<p>I say, we just exposed a fundamental flaw in this voting system. The voting should either be point-based (as in, give all 10 points to one car, or give 5 to one, 3 to second best, and 1 each to the other two, for example), or we should only select ONE car, period.</p>
<p>There ya go, nothing unusual&#8230; Disperse, disperse&#8230; Nothing to see here&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ret</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Maybe next year have a vote for number one separate from the other nine?
&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;

Or better yet, rank all the cars you vote for.  If you require all voters to pick ten cars and assign their own rank, you can simply tally up the scores and the lowest one wins. For instance:

If three people vote on the Mazda, Corvette, and 3-series, and all three people vote the Mazda as #3, The Corvette as #2 and the 3-series as #1, the total points would be:

Mazda - 9 points
Corvette - 6 points
3-series - 3 points

Under the current system, all three cars would have gotten three votes and would be considered equal.  But in the case above, the 3-series got more high ranking votes, so it ends up higher on the overall ranking.

This would require a bit more thought during voting, but I feel like the TTAC crowd could handle it.

</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><strong><em>Maybe next year have a vote for number one separate from the other nine?<br />
</em></strong></p>
<p>Or better yet, rank all the cars you vote for.  If you require all voters to pick ten cars and assign their own rank, you can simply tally up the scores and the lowest one wins. For instance:</p>
<p>If three people vote on the Mazda, Corvette, and 3-series, and all three people vote the Mazda as #3, The Corvette as #2 and the 3-series as #1, the total points would be:</p>
<p>Mazda &#8211; 9 points<br />
Corvette &#8211; 6 points<br />
3-series &#8211; 3 points</p>
<p>Under the current system, all three cars would have gotten three votes and would be considered equal.  But in the case above, the 3-series got more high ranking votes, so it ends up higher on the overall ranking.</p>
<p>This would require a bit more thought during voting, but I feel like the TTAC crowd could handle it.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Mark MacInnis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark MacInnis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without wanting to sound overmuch like our 42nd president.  &quot;It depends on what the meaning of BEST is....&quot;

Apparently to many, &quot;best&quot; means finding the sweet spot of value, performance, economy and style.  In that regard, it is again &quot;apparent&quot; that most responders to the poll feel that the Mazda 3 hits that sweet spot &quot;better&quot; than the other cars on the list.

Also, it may be a vote for demography.  I believe more responders know someone, or know someone who knows someone, who actually drives a 3 and has listened to them rave about it, most of what they know about the Audi S-car they&#039;ve read in the media.  And, speaking for myself, we have frankly been hearing for two decades or more about the virtues of the BMW 3-series,they are kind of 10 minutes ago for the best-this or that award.

You guys begged the question earlier this year when you opined as to how little 10 best lists actually meant.  So, is anyone surprised that the results of this one would stir controversy in a site whose readers/contributors are as passionately partisan and parochial (I mean that in the best way possible, y&#039;all!) as this site&#039;s are?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Without wanting to sound overmuch like our 42nd president.  &#8220;It depends on what the meaning of BEST is&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Apparently to many, &#8220;best&#8221; means finding the sweet spot of value, performance, economy and style.  In that regard, it is again &#8220;apparent&#8221; that most responders to the poll feel that the Mazda 3 hits that sweet spot &#8220;better&#8221; than the other cars on the list.</p>
<p>Also, it may be a vote for demography.  I believe more responders know someone, or know someone who knows someone, who actually drives a 3 and has listened to them rave about it, most of what they know about the Audi S-car they&#8217;ve read in the media.  And, speaking for myself, we have frankly been hearing for two decades or more about the virtues of the BMW 3-series,they are kind of 10 minutes ago for the best-this or that award.</p>
<p>You guys begged the question earlier this year when you opined as to how little 10 best lists actually meant.  So, is anyone surprised that the results of this one would stir controversy in a site whose readers/contributors are as passionately partisan and parochial (I mean that in the best way possible, y&#8217;all!) as this site&#8217;s are?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: TEXN3</title>
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		<dc:creator>TEXN3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>golden2husky, I guess that is true...however as an automotive enthusiast I do prefer BMW bikes over cars. I&#039;ve had more time with them. I guess I&#039;ll blame that on my confusion. That and since I&#039;ve been around MB products, I guess you could say I&#039;m more a fanboy of their vehicles (albeit pre-2000).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->golden2husky, I guess that is true&#8230;however as an automotive enthusiast I do prefer BMW bikes over cars. I&#8217;ve had more time with them. I guess I&#8217;ll blame that on my confusion. That and since I&#8217;ve been around MB products, I guess you could say I&#8217;m more a fanboy of their vehicles (albeit pre-2000).<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: gamper</title>
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		<dc:creator>gamper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Mazdaspeed3 isnt the best car on the list by a long shot.  Bang for the buck, it is very impressive, even against other favorites in that department like the WRX.  The FWD Speed3 manages to hold its own against the AWD WRX for less, and looks better doing it.  There is a lot to like about the car, good interior, huge power, reasonable price, good looks.  

I own a Mazdaspeed6 and am totally in love with the 2.3 DISI turbo.  Is it efficient?  Not really.  Does is throw me into the back of my seat?  Hell yes.  So, I basically get V6 economy, but how many other cars out there offer 263hp and 280 lb-ft of torque and get better fuel economy than the Speed3 and even come close to the price and practicality?   The Cobalt SS turbo is the only thing that comes to mind.  Maybe that should have been our #1.  I really have to laugh when people expect 30 mpg out of a car that hits 0-60 in less than 6 seconds.

In any event, creating a car with all these attributes that is actually within financial reach of the masses is bound to be popular.  Though there are many more aspirational cars on the list, it may be some time before I can park an R8 in my garage, hence the popularity of the Mazdaspeed3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The Mazdaspeed3 isnt the best car on the list by a long shot.  Bang for the buck, it is very impressive, even against other favorites in that department like the WRX.  The FWD Speed3 manages to hold its own against the AWD WRX for less, and looks better doing it.  There is a lot to like about the car, good interior, huge power, reasonable price, good looks.  </p>
<p>I own a Mazdaspeed6 and am totally in love with the 2.3 DISI turbo.  Is it efficient?  Not really.  Does is throw me into the back of my seat?  Hell yes.  So, I basically get V6 economy, but how many other cars out there offer 263hp and 280 lb-ft of torque and get better fuel economy than the Speed3 and even come close to the price and practicality?   The Cobalt SS turbo is the only thing that comes to mind.  Maybe that should have been our #1.  I really have to laugh when people expect 30 mpg out of a car that hits 0-60 in less than 6 seconds.</p>
<p>In any event, creating a car with all these attributes that is actually within financial reach of the masses is bound to be popular.  Though there are many more aspirational cars on the list, it may be some time before I can park an R8 in my garage, hence the popularity of the Mazdaspeed3.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: blautens</title>
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		<dc:creator>blautens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Mazda 3 clearly belongs on this list. Styling (which is admittedly subjective) is the best in class to my eyes, and it&#039;s design has continued to wear well over the years. It handles well, the 2.3 is a zippy little engine, albeit not the most miserly. What other car in this size and price class has a more competitive overall package for people who like to drive? Not the Civic (admittedly a great appliance, but it&#039;s pricier and really starting to channel the Insight styling). Not the Corolla. Certainly not anything from the 2.8. Nissan Sentra? Superior in interior space, perhaps...but drives like it&#039;s got marshmallows in place of proper springs and dampers.

And that&#039;s just the sedan. I&#039;m not a huge fan of the looks of the 5 door, but you cannnot ignore the practicality of that model.

I&#039;ve owned 3 Mazdas since 1986 and 2 Hondas. The Mazdas were not flawless in their reliability (unlike the Hondas), but the fun to drive factor always makes me think of them more fondly.

That being said - the A/C &lt;em&gt;is &lt;/em&gt;suspect is tropical climates, although I haven&#039;t driven one since Mazda made some minor design changes to try and direct more air over the condensor.

But I&#039;m hitting the Mazda dealer this weekend to look at a new 6 for my mother, and summer&#039;s still here, so I&#039;ll give it another whirl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The Mazda 3 clearly belongs on this list. Styling (which is admittedly subjective) is the best in class to my eyes, and it&#8217;s design has continued to wear well over the years. It handles well, the 2.3 is a zippy little engine, albeit not the most miserly. What other car in this size and price class has a more competitive overall package for people who like to drive? Not the Civic (admittedly a great appliance, but it&#8217;s pricier and really starting to channel the Insight styling). Not the Corolla. Certainly not anything from the 2.8. Nissan Sentra? Superior in interior space, perhaps&#8230;but drives like it&#8217;s got marshmallows in place of proper springs and dampers.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s just the sedan. I&#8217;m not a huge fan of the looks of the 5 door, but you cannnot ignore the practicality of that model.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve owned 3 Mazdas since 1986 and 2 Hondas. The Mazdas were not flawless in their reliability (unlike the Hondas), but the fun to drive factor always makes me think of them more fondly.</p>
<p>That being said &#8211; the A/C <em>is </em>suspect is tropical climates, although I haven&#8217;t driven one since Mazda made some minor design changes to try and direct more air over the condensor.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m hitting the Mazda dealer this weekend to look at a new 6 for my mother, and summer&#8217;s still here, so I&#8217;ll give it another whirl.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: highrpm</title>
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		<dc:creator>highrpm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe this Mazda3 thing is just a glitch in the system, so to say.

A lot of the cars on the Top 10 list seem to excel at one or several things (performance) while being not so great at other things (fuel economy, cargo capacity, etc).  So an R8 might be a singlye guy&#039;s favorite choice while a family guy wouldn&#039;t vote for it.  Both guys probably went down the list of car choices, stopped at the Mazda3 for a second, and thought to themselves that yes, it&#039;s a nice little car so I&#039;ll vote for it.

Enough voters did that, apparently.  So the Mazda3 may not be considered THE top car on this site, but it still managed to get enough votes to get there.

Somebody proposed a points voting system for cars.  Like my first choice car gets 10 points and my 10th choice gets 1 point.  This system might be better placing a car like the Mazda3 in its true position amongst the Top 10 crowd.</description>
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<p>A lot of the cars on the Top 10 list seem to excel at one or several things (performance) while being not so great at other things (fuel economy, cargo capacity, etc).  So an R8 might be a singlye guy&#8217;s favorite choice while a family guy wouldn&#8217;t vote for it.  Both guys probably went down the list of car choices, stopped at the Mazda3 for a second, and thought to themselves that yes, it&#8217;s a nice little car so I&#8217;ll vote for it.</p>
<p>Enough voters did that, apparently.  So the Mazda3 may not be considered THE top car on this site, but it still managed to get enough votes to get there.</p>
<p>Somebody proposed a points voting system for cars.  Like my first choice car gets 10 points and my 10th choice gets 1 point.  This system might be better placing a car like the Mazda3 in its true position amongst the Top 10 crowd.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: RFortier1796</title>
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		<dc:creator>RFortier1796</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TEXN3...

Pretty close with your assesment of me.  I&#039;m not worried about my car getting women, I have a fairly serious girlfriend right now, and the &quot;M&quot; word has been tossed around recently.

That being said, I&#039;m trying to pick up a decent E39 M5.  It is really everything I want in a car.  Prices on them are decent with sub 50K miles, four doors, roomy, the aftermarket is slowly starting to come down in price, its fast, its sexy in that understated subtly agressive sort of way, and it can pull track duty and haul any future kids around.  That, and in highschool I worked in a BMW dealership, and did so during summers in college when I had my 325i, so I don&#039;t really have to pay for service ever, lol.  That, and I&#039;ve also loved that car (and have had a huge man crush on Clive Owen) ever since I saw the Guy Ritchie BMW Film &quot;Star&quot;).

However, I can, and do, see how the car can be attractive to others.  I guess by my own nature I tend to be a bit agressive.  It really isn&#039;t a bad car, per say.  However, what I consider a good car is, of course, objective, and the Mazda3 and Speed3 just don&#039;t fit the bill.  I think the MX-5 should have been much lower on the list.  I&#039;m just glad number one wasn&#039;t a prius.

Oh, and my comment about what the people call their Mazda3s comes from a long term love of BMWs (I can pinpoint the exact moment I became a jack off, I mean, Bimmerphile).  So it irks me, much like the Lexus ES300 that I&#039;ve seen around town with an ///M Badge, and the Mustang GT I saw slathered with &quot;Type R&quot; badging.</description>
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<p>Pretty close with your assesment of me.  I&#8217;m not worried about my car getting women, I have a fairly serious girlfriend right now, and the &#8220;M&#8221; word has been tossed around recently.</p>
<p>That being said, I&#8217;m trying to pick up a decent E39 M5.  It is really everything I want in a car.  Prices on them are decent with sub 50K miles, four doors, roomy, the aftermarket is slowly starting to come down in price, its fast, its sexy in that understated subtly agressive sort of way, and it can pull track duty and haul any future kids around.  That, and in highschool I worked in a BMW dealership, and did so during summers in college when I had my 325i, so I don&#8217;t really have to pay for service ever, lol.  That, and I&#8217;ve also loved that car (and have had a huge man crush on Clive Owen) ever since I saw the Guy Ritchie BMW Film &#8220;Star&#8221;).</p>
<p>However, I can, and do, see how the car can be attractive to others.  I guess by my own nature I tend to be a bit agressive.  It really isn&#8217;t a bad car, per say.  However, what I consider a good car is, of course, objective, and the Mazda3 and Speed3 just don&#8217;t fit the bill.  I think the MX-5 should have been much lower on the list.  I&#8217;m just glad number one wasn&#8217;t a prius.</p>
<p>Oh, and my comment about what the people call their Mazda3s comes from a long term love of BMWs (I can pinpoint the exact moment I became a jack off, I mean, Bimmerphile).  So it irks me, much like the Lexus ES300 that I&#8217;ve seen around town with an ///M Badge, and the Mustang GT I saw slathered with &#8220;Type R&#8221; badging.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: 200k-min</title>
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		<dc:creator>200k-min</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Call me a Mazda hater, but I don&#039;t think their cars are that special.  Shopped the 6 when it came out as an Accord replacement.  I still have the Accord.  Looked to downsize last year and test drove a few 3&#039;s.  I still have the Accord.  The build quality just isn&#039;t where Honda is, and my now 9 year old Accord beats both on MPG.  Why buy something new?  And still, almost everyone I know that drives a Mazda bought it because it&#039;s cheaper than the Toyota/Honda alternatives.  If I had a nickel for everyone who said, &quot;I wanted a Toyondaissan, but didn&#039;t have the $$$$.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Call me a Mazda hater, but I don&#8217;t think their cars are that special.  Shopped the 6 when it came out as an Accord replacement.  I still have the Accord.  Looked to downsize last year and test drove a few 3&#8217;s.  I still have the Accord.  The build quality just isn&#8217;t where Honda is, and my now 9 year old Accord beats both on MPG.  Why buy something new?  And still, almost everyone I know that drives a Mazda bought it because it&#8217;s cheaper than the Toyota/Honda alternatives.  If I had a nickel for everyone who said, &#8220;I wanted a Toyondaissan, but didn&#8217;t have the $$$$.&#8221;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: my car runs on methane</title>
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		<dc:creator>my car runs on methane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its the closest we&#039;ll get to the brera?</description>
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		<title>By: seoultrain</title>
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		<dc:creator>seoultrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paid $15k OTD for my Mazda3i Touring (2.0L model).

Haven&#039;t come across a single car that costs X times as much and is more than X times better. It&#039;s the bang-for-buck king that&#039;s kept me from (and will continue to keep me from) buying a new car, especially since it&#039;s worth about $10k now.

It&#039;s obviously not the best car on the list. But the sheer value cannot be ignored, so I imagine that many who had 5-7 definite choices saw the Mz3 as a solid choice as a filler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Paid $15k OTD for my Mazda3i Touring (2.0L model).</p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t come across a single car that costs X times as much and is more than X times better. It&#8217;s the bang-for-buck king that&#8217;s kept me from (and will continue to keep me from) buying a new car, especially since it&#8217;s worth about $10k now.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s obviously not the best car on the list. But the sheer value cannot be ignored, so I imagine that many who had 5-7 definite choices saw the Mz3 as a solid choice as a filler.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Johnster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently rented a pretty basic Mazda 3 with the 2.0 and automatic and I was really impressed with it.  Admittedly gas mileage was nothing special, but it really felt responsive and cornered flatly.  The interior was kind of low-rent with lots of plastic and not as nice as my Civic.  Maybe a 3 with a higher level of trim would probably remedy that.  The Mazda 3 was certainly more pleasant to drive than the VW Jetta and the Ford Focus that I also recently rented.  (The 5-cylinder Jetta was surprisingly noisy and the suspension just seemed stiff and not as supple as in older VWs I had driven.)  

As a hatchback, the Mazda 3 doesn&#039;t have that much serious competition.  It&#039;s larger and roomier than the Honda Fit and probably more comfortable to drive when cruising the Interstate.  

It&#039;s one of those cars that won by default.  It&#039;s not great, but it does a lot of things good and it doesn&#039;t have much competition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I recently rented a pretty basic Mazda 3 with the 2.0 and automatic and I was really impressed with it.  Admittedly gas mileage was nothing special, but it really felt responsive and cornered flatly.  The interior was kind of low-rent with lots of plastic and not as nice as my Civic.  Maybe a 3 with a higher level of trim would probably remedy that.  The Mazda 3 was certainly more pleasant to drive than the VW Jetta and the Ford Focus that I also recently rented.  (The 5-cylinder Jetta was surprisingly noisy and the suspension just seemed stiff and not as supple as in older VWs I had driven.)  </p>
<p>As a hatchback, the Mazda 3 doesn&#8217;t have that much serious competition.  It&#8217;s larger and roomier than the Honda Fit and probably more comfortable to drive when cruising the Interstate.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s one of those cars that won by default.  It&#8217;s not great, but it does a lot of things good and it doesn&#8217;t have much competition.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: shortthrowsixspeed</title>
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		<dc:creator>shortthrowsixspeed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes . . . you&#039;re wrong.  but not because the Mazda belongs in the top spot.  Rather you&#039;re wrong because none of the cars you mentioned is &quot;better&quot; than the speed3.  the problem is that in this category there is always compromise.  And, to further muddy the waters, the cars are expected to play multiple roles.  in this regard comparing a speed3 to anything in its class is much harder than comparing top end porsche/ferrari/lambo . . . they are all meant to do one thing - go fast.  

but the speed3 is intended to go fast, get decent mpgs, carry stuff, blend in, stand out, ride well, handle well, be cheap, and feel not cheap.  this is not easy.  especially considering that many of the above are/seem contradictory.  if you review the above list of features, the speed3 stands above all the others you mentioned (fit, wrx, sti, ralliart, evo, silverado hybrid???).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->yes . . . you&#8217;re wrong.  but not because the Mazda belongs in the top spot.  Rather you&#8217;re wrong because none of the cars you mentioned is &#8220;better&#8221; than the speed3.  the problem is that in this category there is always compromise.  And, to further muddy the waters, the cars are expected to play multiple roles.  in this regard comparing a speed3 to anything in its class is much harder than comparing top end porsche/ferrari/lambo . . . they are all meant to do one thing &#8211; go fast.  </p>
<p>but the speed3 is intended to go fast, get decent mpgs, carry stuff, blend in, stand out, ride well, handle well, be cheap, and feel not cheap.  this is not easy.  especially considering that many of the above are/seem contradictory.  if you review the above list of features, the speed3 stands above all the others you mentioned (fit, wrx, sti, ralliart, evo, silverado hybrid???).<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: argentla</title>
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		<dc:creator>argentla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 05:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a 2005 Mazda3 sedan, which I like a lot. With rising gas prices, I would probably take a Civic for its superior fuel economy, but the 2300MZR engine is a gem -- lugs well, lots of torque, but it revs cleanly to 6,500 rpm and makes ritzy-sounding noises. It rides and handles well, has entirely reasonable space for my needs without being too big, and it has excellent brakes. The steering-wheel radio controls and other small features are also high satisfying.

I think the sedan looks great. I &lt;i&gt;hate&lt;/i&gt; the five-door, which I think looks like a dumpling from the rear.

My main criticisms, other than the mediocre gas mileage:

- The manual shift linkage is great when it&#039;s new, but it&#039;s none too robust.

- The windows desperately need better tinting. My old (&#039;91) &lt;i&gt;black&lt;/i&gt; Prelude had bronze-tinted windows that gave vastly better solar control. Bright sunlight can be a killer.

- The air conditioning is not strong enough. In the changeover from Protégé to 3, they downsized the A/C system, and the current car&#039;s capacity is barely adequate. If I lived in Texas or Florida, it would be a problem.

- The strip of fake carbon fiber on the dash looks cheap, as does the painted silver surround of the instrument cluster.

- The black seats with red stitching look great, but the upholstery is easily gouged by the metal studs in blue jeans and the like.

Still, a &lt;i&gt;vastly&lt;/i&gt; better deal than the previous-generation Civic EX (which would have cost me more money, at the time) in every area except fuel economy, fun to drive, and a superb all-around value.

I&#039;m not interested in the Mazdaspeed3. For one, it&#039;s the ugly hatchback. For another, it&#039;s FWD, and the prospect of FWD turbo power is not appetizing. For a third, the dealer mark-up locally is appalling. And then there&#039;s the need for premium fuel. Just not an appealing package.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I have a 2005 Mazda3 sedan, which I like a lot. With rising gas prices, I would probably take a Civic for its superior fuel economy, but the 2300MZR engine is a gem &#8212; lugs well, lots of torque, but it revs cleanly to 6,500 rpm and makes ritzy-sounding noises. It rides and handles well, has entirely reasonable space for my needs without being too big, and it has excellent brakes. The steering-wheel radio controls and other small features are also high satisfying.</p>
<p>I think the sedan looks great. I <i>hate</i> the five-door, which I think looks like a dumpling from the rear.</p>
<p>My main criticisms, other than the mediocre gas mileage:</p>
<p>- The manual shift linkage is great when it&#8217;s new, but it&#8217;s none too robust.</p>
<p>- The windows desperately need better tinting. My old (&#8217;91) <i>black</i> Prelude had bronze-tinted windows that gave vastly better solar control. Bright sunlight can be a killer.</p>
<p>- The air conditioning is not strong enough. In the changeover from Protégé to 3, they downsized the A/C system, and the current car&#8217;s capacity is barely adequate. If I lived in Texas or Florida, it would be a problem.</p>
<p>- The strip of fake carbon fiber on the dash looks cheap, as does the painted silver surround of the instrument cluster.</p>
<p>- The black seats with red stitching look great, but the upholstery is easily gouged by the metal studs in blue jeans and the like.</p>
<p>Still, a <i>vastly</i> better deal than the previous-generation Civic EX (which would have cost me more money, at the time) in every area except fuel economy, fun to drive, and a superb all-around value.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not interested in the Mazdaspeed3. For one, it&#8217;s the ugly hatchback. For another, it&#8217;s FWD, and the prospect of FWD turbo power is not appetizing. For a third, the dealer mark-up locally is appalling. And then there&#8217;s the need for premium fuel. Just not an appealing package.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ambulancechaser</title>
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		<dc:creator>ambulancechaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 05:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is the Mazda 3 on this list and a favorite to all walks of motorist?  Cause you&#039;ve got options, its well made, it looks good, its fun to thrash around, and its DIRT CHEAP!  &quot;Oh, but the STI is better, and the Evo X is better, and the GTI is better, and any 3 series BMW is better...&quot;  Sure they are.  But do you have any idea the premium we pay for those in Canada?  I can have two Mazda 3&#039;s for less then the price of one of the others.</description>
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		<title>By: galaxygreymx5</title>
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		<dc:creator>galaxygreymx5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 04:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I traded my Miata for a Mazda3 GT wagon recently and I haven&#039;t regretted it.  The car just drives far above its price point and, in top trim level, the interior is head-and-shoulders above virtually all of the competition.  

The Civic, if ergonomically correct, is space-invaders bizarre, the Corolla a hard-plastic yawn, the Elantra an olfactory torture chamber of South Korean chemical remnants, and the Cobalt and Focus...well...Chapter 11.  

I, too, lament the GTI&#039;s absence because of its fantastic engine, available DSG, clean and muscular styling and funky seat fabric, but my &#039;01 had the notable honor of being the only new car I&#039;ve ever bought to break down on the trip home from the dealership.  In the following several months the spunky GTI taught me to avoid VW products for the rest of my life.

The 3, while certainly not the best car on the list, is absolutely the best car in its class.  Certainly it&#039;s a sign of the times that it got the most votes.  

Now everyone say a silent prayer in hopes that they don&#039;t fuck up the successor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I traded my Miata for a Mazda3 GT wagon recently and I haven&#8217;t regretted it.  The car just drives far above its price point and, in top trim level, the interior is head-and-shoulders above virtually all of the competition.  </p>
<p>The Civic, if ergonomically correct, is space-invaders bizarre, the Corolla a hard-plastic yawn, the Elantra an olfactory torture chamber of South Korean chemical remnants, and the Cobalt and Focus&#8230;well&#8230;Chapter 11.  </p>
<p>I, too, lament the GTI&#8217;s absence because of its fantastic engine, available DSG, clean and muscular styling and funky seat fabric, but my &#8216;01 had the notable honor of being the only new car I&#8217;ve ever bought to break down on the trip home from the dealership.  In the following several months the spunky GTI taught me to avoid VW products for the rest of my life.</p>
<p>The 3, while certainly not the best car on the list, is absolutely the best car in its class.  Certainly it&#8217;s a sign of the times that it got the most votes.  </p>
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		<title>By: Strippo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Strippo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This one isn&#039;t hard to figure out. The Mazda3 was not necessarily anyone&#039;s top choice, but it was the easiest choice to add to the list. Enough fun, enough practicality, enough affordability, enough reliability to at least make the list. It&#039;s a lot like the economy class version of last year&#039;s TSX in that respect, but last year&#039;s TSX is no more. The 3 benefits from the TSX&#039;s fall from grace. If you did a second poll to weight the top ten, methinks the 3 does not get the top spot. It finishes in the middle. In fact it&#039;s the 3&#039;s very &quot;middle-ness&quot; that earned it the most votes. It&#039;s a jack of all trades, master of none.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->This one isn&#8217;t hard to figure out. The Mazda3 was not necessarily anyone&#8217;s top choice, but it was the easiest choice to add to the list. Enough fun, enough practicality, enough affordability, enough reliability to at least make the list. It&#8217;s a lot like the economy class version of last year&#8217;s TSX in that respect, but last year&#8217;s TSX is no more. The 3 benefits from the TSX&#8217;s fall from grace. If you did a second poll to weight the top ten, methinks the 3 does not get the top spot. It finishes in the middle. In fact it&#8217;s the 3&#8217;s very &#8220;middle-ness&#8221; that earned it the most votes. It&#8217;s a jack of all trades, master of none.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: davey49</title>
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		<dc:creator>davey49</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few reasons to pick the Mazda 3 over the WRX and Ralliart
The WRX and Ralliart are relatively new. We are used to the 3 because it&#039;s been around a long time.
The base model 3 is still an excellent car, $16K and your good. The Impreza might be decent but is hampered by weight,AWD and price. The Ralliart is a Lancer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->A few reasons to pick the Mazda 3 over the WRX and Ralliart<br />
The WRX and Ralliart are relatively new. We are used to the 3 because it&#8217;s been around a long time.<br />
The base model 3 is still an excellent car, $16K and your good. The Impreza might be decent but is hampered by weight,AWD and price. The Ralliart is a Lancer.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ppellico</title>
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		<dc:creator>ppellico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen Lang...

Before I reply, I thought I would give you a drivers ed story.
Tonight my son asked me to give him some more night time driving.
He requires 50 total hours with an adult, of which 10 must be night.
So...OK.
I had him drive me out for some good wine..
Now that&#039;s doing two lessons with one, right?

Don&#039;t know if you like good red wine, but I know you love Mazdas.

But understand the original 6.  It was introduced in 03.
Now that&#039;s a long time ago, in car life.
At that time it was meant to be a World Car...a poor man&#039;s sporty car.
Since that damned Euro trash doesn&#039;t have my large ass, they insist upon smaller rear seats.
Just sit in those Bimmers and Audis!
Any decent American who understands real BBQ couldn&#039;t handle a trip across town, let alone the country!

Now, mazda took a lesson and like the Accord made a car JUST for the US.
See, their Accord is our small ass rear seat TSX.
Try the new mazda6.
Its an astonishing car.
In fact, my favorite 4 was always the Honda free reving 4.
Now, Mazda got it right.
The 4 is actually the better of the two 6 cars.
Its seems better balanced and the 4 and its 5 trans are just like bread and butter together.
The rear seat now is fitting my rear end...and comfortable enough for my every two week 7 hour trip to MO.

Yes...there is no other poor man&#039;s BMW out there other than the Mazda car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Stephen Lang&#8230;</p>
<p>Before I reply, I thought I would give you a drivers ed story.<br />
Tonight my son asked me to give him some more night time driving.<br />
He requires 50 total hours with an adult, of which 10 must be night.<br />
So&#8230;OK.<br />
I had him drive me out for some good wine..<br />
Now that&#8217;s doing two lessons with one, right?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t know if you like good red wine, but I know you love Mazdas.</p>
<p>But understand the original 6.  It was introduced in 03.<br />
Now that&#8217;s a long time ago, in car life.<br />
At that time it was meant to be a World Car&#8230;a poor man&#8217;s sporty car.<br />
Since that damned Euro trash doesn&#8217;t have my large ass, they insist upon smaller rear seats.<br />
Just sit in those Bimmers and Audis!<br />
Any decent American who understands real BBQ couldn&#8217;t handle a trip across town, let alone the country!</p>
<p>Now, mazda took a lesson and like the Accord made a car JUST for the US.<br />
See, their Accord is our small ass rear seat TSX.<br />
Try the new mazda6.<br />
Its an astonishing car.<br />
In fact, my favorite 4 was always the Honda free reving 4.<br />
Now, Mazda got it right.<br />
The 4 is actually the better of the two 6 cars.<br />
Its seems better balanced and the 4 and its 5 trans are just like bread and butter together.<br />
The rear seat now is fitting my rear end&#8230;and comfortable enough for my every two week 7 hour trip to MO.</p>
<p>Yes&#8230;there is no other poor man&#8217;s BMW out there other than the Mazda car.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: golden2husky</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 02:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;and people think it’s a big V12 Beemer.&lt;/em&gt;...

As an enthusiast site, we really should try to be correct with our automobile nomenclature.  That would be Bimmer...just sayin...</description>
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<p>As an enthusiast site, we really should try to be correct with our automobile nomenclature.  That would be Bimmer&#8230;just sayin&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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