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		<title>By: detlef</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/question-of-the-day-bought-any-new-cars-lately/comment-page-2/#comment-782631</link>
		<dc:creator>detlef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 02:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My fiancee and I bought her an &#039;08 Outback in March to replace her Camry, which was claimed by record snowfall in Wisconsin.  We went with the naturally-aspirated engine with an eye toward fuel prices (a good decision in retrospect).

My Volvo 850 Turbo has been relegated to a part-time role, partially because of the free mass transit I enjoy, and partially because I don&#039;t feel like paying for premium fuel.  If it was running poorly I might not care so much, but with nearly 300k miles and no problems since I replaced the fuel pump 50k ago, I&#039;d like to keep it nice.  No telling when I&#039;ll be able to replace it.</description>
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<p>My Volvo 850 Turbo has been relegated to a part-time role, partially because of the free mass transit I enjoy, and partially because I don&#8217;t feel like paying for premium fuel.  If it was running poorly I might not care so much, but with nearly 300k miles and no problems since I replaced the fuel pump 50k ago, I&#8217;d like to keep it nice.  No telling when I&#8217;ll be able to replace it.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: joeaverage</title>
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		<dc:creator>joeaverage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope. Got 40K and 50K to go on the old cars before we go car shopping unless either are doing well and which case we&#039;ll keep driving them. Target mileage is 200K miles. Previous Honda Accord (&#039;87) was still doing fine at 325K miles so who knows we might just keep dirivng the CR-V. &#039;97 VW Cabrio is doing okay but it&#039;s going to be a task to keep it from getting ugly. Going to need paint and some door panel work (peeling back at the top). Electricals and mechanicals are good though. 

We&#039;ve decided to concentrate on debt (mortgage and student loans). Current economy reminds us that we&#039;d realy like to be mortgage free so if the whole economy slide off the table we&#039;d still have our house if not our jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Nope. Got 40K and 50K to go on the old cars before we go car shopping unless either are doing well and which case we&#8217;ll keep driving them. Target mileage is 200K miles. Previous Honda Accord (&#8217;87) was still doing fine at 325K miles so who knows we might just keep dirivng the CR-V. &#8216;97 VW Cabrio is doing okay but it&#8217;s going to be a task to keep it from getting ugly. Going to need paint and some door panel work (peeling back at the top). Electricals and mechanicals are good though. </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve decided to concentrate on debt (mortgage and student loans). Current economy reminds us that we&#8217;d realy like to be mortgage free so if the whole economy slide off the table we&#8217;d still have our house if not our jobs.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: cretinx</title>
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		<dc:creator>cretinx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re keeping our 2008 Baby Mobile/Autocross Scalpel (Civic SI Sedan) we got in the spring.

I sold my Porsche Turbo and BMW Z4 and purchased a house.

I plan on picking up a used 02-03 S2000 (9000 rpm but with the glass rear window + good stereo) and supercharging it come spring.

No new cars anytime soon for us.  Who has the money for that right now?  My IRA makes me sad (but I&#039;m dollar cost averaging every two weeks from my paycheck so I&#039;ll be happy when the market bounces back).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->We&#8217;re keeping our 2008 Baby Mobile/Autocross Scalpel (Civic SI Sedan) we got in the spring.</p>
<p>I sold my Porsche Turbo and BMW Z4 and purchased a house.</p>
<p>I plan on picking up a used 02-03 S2000 (9000 rpm but with the glass rear window + good stereo) and supercharging it come spring.</p>
<p>No new cars anytime soon for us.  Who has the money for that right now?  My IRA makes me sad (but I&#8217;m dollar cost averaging every two weeks from my paycheck so I&#8217;ll be happy when the market bounces back).<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: beken</title>
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		<dc:creator>beken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting, that our 1999 Buick Century started to implode right about the time the GM death watch series hit full stride.  

Having bought a MINI as a commuter car a few years back, my eyes were opened as to how other car companies treat their customers (much better) so I have left the GM fold and bought a lease returned BMW 525i.  Bonus is it gets better mileage than the Buick albiet with premium.  The cost of the car was less than what I was spending on repairs on the Buick, so it made perfect sense.</description>
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<p>Having bought a MINI as a commuter car a few years back, my eyes were opened as to how other car companies treat their customers (much better) so I have left the GM fold and bought a lease returned BMW 525i.  Bonus is it gets better mileage than the Buick albiet with premium.  The cost of the car was less than what I was spending on repairs on the Buick, so it made perfect sense.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Revver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Revver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read the review here and picked up a new VW Jetta earlier this year for the wife. It replaced a &#039;98 Jetta and the difference was staggering. 

We&#039;re real happy with the purchase. I think of it as an Audi A4 for $10K less. 

My other car is a &#039;96 Pathfinder that I beat, beat, beat on regularly. I may replace it for an old Landcruiser since I just have to get .8 mile to the train station 5 days a week. If I&#039;m feeling especially masochistic, I may even get a used &lt;strike&gt;automotive hair shirt&lt;/strike&gt; Land Rover Discovery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Read the review here and picked up a new VW Jetta earlier this year for the wife. It replaced a &#8216;98 Jetta and the difference was staggering. </p>
<p>We&#8217;re real happy with the purchase. I think of it as an Audi A4 for $10K less. </p>
<p>My other car is a &#8216;96 Pathfinder that I beat, beat, beat on regularly. I may replace it for an old Landcruiser since I just have to get .8 mile to the train station 5 days a week. If I&#8217;m feeling especially masochistic, I may even get a used <strike>automotive hair shirt</strike> Land Rover Discovery.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: vvk</title>
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		<dc:creator>vvk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no plans to by anything new for at least several years. For one thing, nothing currently on the market suits my needs and wants. And another reason is that right now there seems to be a pivotal point that will change the auto market forever in the next 2-3 years. Who knows, perhaps in 5 years I will be able to buy a viable electric car that will cost me 1/100 to run and will have excellent range and features. Right now, I would only buy used.</description>
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		<title>By: Mark MacInnis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark MacInnis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope...and not planning to.  I am one of those used car buyers who lets depreciation be the OTHER guys problem.  My current whip is a 97 A6 Quatro Avant, which just turned 100k, not bad: a luxury marque which was truly the original CUV (AWD, seats 7 in a pinch, 22 mpg) safe, comfortable and solid and so-far (I&#039;ve owned it 2+ years)no mechanical issues...which cost the original owner north of $35k, I got 8 yrs old with low mileage for 20% of that, cash.  I have read at TTAC about the alleged problems older Audis encounter, so one benefit of this site is I know what to be looking for, but so far, no problems.  I have a good mechanic with lots of Audi experience.  He tells me that with my driving habits and reasonable maintenance, I could theoretically drive it another 10 years without issues.  So, why buy new? 

TTACs reviews, and as importantly, poster responses and real-world advice, will help me develop my list of next used cars to consider, when, as and if.

Right now, on my shopping list for about 2013, presuming the US economy doesn&#039;t toddle off to hell in a handbasket, or we run out of oil, before then, 

1.  &#039;08 Subaru Outback
2.  &#039;06 Mercedes C-class Wagon
3.  &#039;08 A6 Avant
4.  &#039;06 5-series Touring
5.  &#039;08 Lincoln MKX

Why yes, I DO like station wagons.  Why do you ask?  New wagons depreciate more, and faster, than the same model as a sedan.  So, for a lower price and with greater capability, I get to drive the same car, with maybe a slight efficiency penalty.  Overall, on actual total cost per mile driven, I win by NOT buying new.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Nope&#8230;and not planning to.  I am one of those used car buyers who lets depreciation be the OTHER guys problem.  My current whip is a 97 A6 Quatro Avant, which just turned 100k, not bad: a luxury marque which was truly the original CUV (AWD, seats 7 in a pinch, 22 mpg) safe, comfortable and solid and so-far (I&#8217;ve owned it 2+ years)no mechanical issues&#8230;which cost the original owner north of $35k, I got 8 yrs old with low mileage for 20% of that, cash.  I have read at TTAC about the alleged problems older Audis encounter, so one benefit of this site is I know what to be looking for, but so far, no problems.  I have a good mechanic with lots of Audi experience.  He tells me that with my driving habits and reasonable maintenance, I could theoretically drive it another 10 years without issues.  So, why buy new? </p>
<p>TTACs reviews, and as importantly, poster responses and real-world advice, will help me develop my list of next used cars to consider, when, as and if.</p>
<p>Right now, on my shopping list for about 2013, presuming the US economy doesn&#8217;t toddle off to hell in a handbasket, or we run out of oil, before then, </p>
<p>1.  &#8216;08 Subaru Outback<br />
2.  &#8216;06 Mercedes C-class Wagon<br />
3.  &#8216;08 A6 Avant<br />
4.  &#8216;06 5-series Touring<br />
5.  &#8216;08 Lincoln MKX</p>
<p>Why yes, I DO like station wagons.  Why do you ask?  New wagons depreciate more, and faster, than the same model as a sedan.  So, for a lower price and with greater capability, I get to drive the same car, with maybe a slight efficiency penalty.  Overall, on actual total cost per mile driven, I win by NOT buying new.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: pb35</title>
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		<dc:creator>pb35</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Robert Farago&lt;/em&gt;

Oops, you said LX, not GX. The XC90 isn&#039;t in the same class as the LX so please disregard my previous comment.</description>
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<p>Oops, you said LX, not GX. The XC90 isn&#8217;t in the same class as the LX so please disregard my previous comment.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: FromBrazil</title>
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		<dc:creator>FromBrazil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for all the boldface and italics! Couldn&#039;t get it right...</description>
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		<title>By: gimmeamanual</title>
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		<dc:creator>gimmeamanual</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ppellico:

Fine.  TWO bottles!</description>
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		<title>By: ppellico</title>
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		<dc:creator>ppellico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonny...

I posted this on an FrankWilliams review and thought it relevant to your question:

Frank Williams

I totally agree with blautens above...MORE comparison reviews.

We are all usually buying within a slot, and there are soooo many competitive cars in each slot.
It would be nice to get reviews from TTAC that go beyond the simple stat comparisons available at sights like Automotive.com.
TTAC reviews have a lot of emotion and real drive feel added.
This truly helps.

And most cannot test drive a car long enough to fish out all of the details.
After all, most cannot take a car on a 55 mph plus road for highway feel during a test drive.

TTAC reviewers spend time and a detailed, comprehensive review of a group would truly help.</description>
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<p>I posted this on an FrankWilliams review and thought it relevant to your question:</p>
<p>Frank Williams</p>
<p>I totally agree with blautens above&#8230;MORE comparison reviews.</p>
<p>We are all usually buying within a slot, and there are soooo many competitive cars in each slot.<br />
It would be nice to get reviews from TTAC that go beyond the simple stat comparisons available at sights like Automotive.com.<br />
TTAC reviews have a lot of emotion and real drive feel added.<br />
This truly helps.</p>
<p>And most cannot test drive a car long enough to fish out all of the details.<br />
After all, most cannot take a car on a 55 mph plus road for highway feel during a test drive.</p>
<p>TTAC reviewers spend time and a detailed, comprehensive review of a group would truly help.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: FromBrazil</title>
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		<dc:creator>FromBrazil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Stingray:

&lt;em&gt;!Saludos hermano!

Well, Renault has now got a plan to combat their famously expensive spare parts. Of the &quot;domestic&quot; makers, they now offer the best warranty: 3 years, with a pre-progammed maintenance plan (oil and such) that is priced right. Though it doesn&#039;t include all parts subject to wear-and-tear, I hope it keeps the maintenance down. Though they are growing, their market share is still rather timid (5%) so that makes their cars more &quot;exclusive&quot; which helps keep insurance costs down (and insurance is really expensive down here). So, figuring I&#039;ll have the warranty, and the savings on insurance, this will compensate when it comes time to do some more &quot;serious&quot; maintenance. For you to have an idea, I had a Renault Clio previously whose ECU fritzed away and they wanted to charge me 3000 reais (about 1500 US dollars). After much thunder and storm I was able to get the price down to 900 (450 dollars), but a Fiat Palio&#039;s ECU costs only 300 (150 dollars). So I&#039;ll keep my fingers crossed!!!

On a side note, envy you on your much wider choices of cars and much bigger engine. If gas down here were 100% more expensive than up there, I&#039;d still be paying something like 200% more than you for gas. Oh well, I hope the recent findings off our coast willinspire the gov to give us some relief. Taxes make up about 65% of the price of a liter down here.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><strong>Stingray:</p>
<p><em>!Saludos hermano!</p>
<p>Well, Renault has now got a plan to combat their famously expensive spare parts. Of the &#8220;domestic&#8221; makers, they now offer the best warranty: 3 years, with a pre-progammed maintenance plan (oil and such) that is priced right. Though it doesn&#8217;t include all parts subject to wear-and-tear, I hope it keeps the maintenance down. Though they are growing, their market share is still rather timid (5%) so that makes their cars more &#8220;exclusive&#8221; which helps keep insurance costs down (and insurance is really expensive down here). So, figuring I&#8217;ll have the warranty, and the savings on insurance, this will compensate when it comes time to do some more &#8220;serious&#8221; maintenance. For you to have an idea, I had a Renault Clio previously whose ECU fritzed away and they wanted to charge me 3000 reais (about 1500 US dollars). After much thunder and storm I was able to get the price down to 900 (450 dollars), but a Fiat Palio&#8217;s ECU costs only 300 (150 dollars). So I&#8217;ll keep my fingers crossed!!!</p>
<p>On a side note, envy you on your much wider choices of cars and much bigger engine. If gas down here were 100% more expensive than up there, I&#8217;d still be paying something like 200% more than you for gas. Oh well, I hope the recent findings off our coast willinspire the gov to give us some relief. Taxes make up about 65% of the price of a liter down here.</em></strong><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ppellico</title>
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		<dc:creator>ppellico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pb35
As I told above, TTAC has convinced me to wait for the Genesis V8.
Plus I owe myself a drive in the 09 TL, IF it ever arrives.</description>
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As I told above, TTAC has convinced me to wait for the Genesis V8.<br />
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		<title>By: ppellico</title>
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		<dc:creator>ppellico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gimmeamanual 
All the while I was shaking my head &quot;no&quot; while reading...until the end.
Then I paused, pregnantly.
Good thing its early in the morning!</description>
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All the while I was shaking my head &#8220;no&#8221; while reading&#8230;until the end.<br />
Then I paused, pregnantly.<br />
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		<title>By: pb35</title>
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		<dc:creator>pb35</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;RF&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Drove the V8 beast from Atlanta to Providence in three days. Lost all feeling in my right butt cheek.&lt;/em&gt;

LOL. 

Have you considered an XC90 over the LX470? I leased a Sport model last Summer and love it. No issues to speak of @11k. Lease rates aren&#039;t as good as last year of course but there are deals to be had I&#039;m sure. Can&#039;t go wrong with a Lexus, though...

We&#039;ll be keeping the G35x purchased new in 2004 for another 3-4 years.

&lt;em&gt;BlackbirdHighway&lt;/em&gt;

Please, tell us what you bought? Don&#039;t keep us in suspense like that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><strong>RF</strong></p>
<p><em>Drove the V8 beast from Atlanta to Providence in three days. Lost all feeling in my right butt cheek.</em></p>
<p>LOL. </p>
<p>Have you considered an XC90 over the LX470? I leased a Sport model last Summer and love it. No issues to speak of @11k. Lease rates aren&#8217;t as good as last year of course but there are deals to be had I&#8217;m sure. Can&#8217;t go wrong with a Lexus, though&#8230;</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll be keeping the G35x purchased new in 2004 for another 3-4 years.</p>
<p><em>BlackbirdHighway</em></p>
<p>Please, tell us what you bought? Don&#8217;t keep us in suspense like that!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: gimmeamanual</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;ppellico:&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;ve done numerous 7-hr trips in my Altima SE-R, and one 14-hr trip, and I can say that it is built to cruise the highway just as much as it is to race from stoplight to stoplight.  Relatively quiet, Bose sound system, 29mpg, roomy, &quot;mafia-approved&quot; trunk size, etc etc.  And it&#039;s for sale.  Interested?  I&#039;ll throw in a bottle of scotch</description>
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<p>I&#8217;ve done numerous 7-hr trips in my Altima SE-R, and one 14-hr trip, and I can say that it is built to cruise the highway just as much as it is to race from stoplight to stoplight.  Relatively quiet, Bose sound system, 29mpg, roomy, &#8220;mafia-approved&#8221; trunk size, etc etc.  And it&#8217;s for sale.  Interested?  I&#8217;ll throw in a bottle of scotch<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: RickA</title>
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		<dc:creator>RickA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After I purchased a 2007 Civic SI coupe and owning it for over a year, my wife bought a 2008 Civic EX-L coupe with a 5 speed manual.

I did a small amount of research before buying the SI but after a year of ownership the Civic sells itself. The 2008 was purchased without considering any other makes. From walking in to the dealership to driving off with the car took less than 2 hours.

This highlights, I think, the problem Detroit faces. We both owned Honda cars before this. I had a 92 Civic SI and she had a 96 Del SOL VTEC. Both cars were fun, and ran like clockwork. When the time came to replace them Detroit was never considered at all and the others only in slight passing.

Detroit would have to make the gold standard in cars and do it for over a decade before either one us would even walk in the door.</description>
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<p>I did a small amount of research before buying the SI but after a year of ownership the Civic sells itself. The 2008 was purchased without considering any other makes. From walking in to the dealership to driving off with the car took less than 2 hours.</p>
<p>This highlights, I think, the problem Detroit faces. We both owned Honda cars before this. I had a 92 Civic SI and she had a 96 Del SOL VTEC. Both cars were fun, and ran like clockwork. When the time came to replace them Detroit was never considered at all and the others only in slight passing.</p>
<p>Detroit would have to make the gold standard in cars and do it for over a decade before either one us would even walk in the door.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Banger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Banger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Stingray:&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;i&gt;&quot;The Geo Storm (it’s brother/cousin, etc…) is mostly the same car sans: Lotus Tuned suspension, disk brakes, style. But it’s the same platform.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Thanks for reminding me about that. I&#039;d almost forgotten about the famed Isuzu/Lotus companionship. And it really was: I think it was the Elise that had an Isuzu four-banger in it for a while?

Now, if they produce a new Isuzu 117, sign me up. That car has always been a favorite of mine, but you can&#039;t seem to find any good examples here in the States.</description>
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<p><i>&#8220;The Geo Storm (it’s brother/cousin, etc…) is mostly the same car sans: Lotus Tuned suspension, disk brakes, style. But it’s the same platform.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Thanks for reminding me about that. I&#8217;d almost forgotten about the famed Isuzu/Lotus companionship. And it really was: I think it was the Elise that had an Isuzu four-banger in it for a while?</p>
<p>Now, if they produce a new Isuzu 117, sign me up. That car has always been a favorite of mine, but you can&#8217;t seem to find any good examples here in the States.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Stingray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stingray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Banger&lt;/strong&gt;

My first vehicle was a 1993 Isuzu pickup. Manual everything, no options, and a carbureted (!) 2.3-liter lump good for 90-something horsepower. Reliable, as you could imagine, because there was very little to break on this thing. If only that 2.3 had a timing chain instead of a belt– and perhaps fuel injection– it would’ve been pretty much perfect.

The Impulse was pretty cool. I saw a good example of one the other day. They had a style the GM clones (Geos) couldn’t touch. The dual round headlights? Very tasty.

I’d really like to see Isuzu divorce itself from any remaining GM/Toyota ties and go back to producing economical, smart vehicles for the US again– and NOT just SUVs, which is pretty much what buried their US presence if you ask me. Well, that and a nonexistent advertising budget. C’est la vie.&lt;/em&gt;

Me too. Isuzu cars are quirky. Once you drive one, you&#039;re hooked. I&#039;m afraid Toyota is going to do to Isuzu the same crap GM did to them: suck tech, sink them and then divorce.

If they ever produce another car, I&#039;ll be one of the firsts in the showroom with the check in hand.

The Geo Storm (it&#039;s brother/cousin, etc...) is mostly the same car sans: Lotus Tuned suspension, disk brakes, style. But it&#039;s the same platform.

&lt;strong&gt;From Brazil&lt;/strong&gt;

I drove my mom&#039;s Siena to about 300K Kms, and the car has now 350K kms on the original motor. With minor maintenance.

I live in Venezuela, third world also. Good luck with the Logan and stupidly expensive Renault parts. At least the Fiat&#039;s one are dirt cheap (well here)</description>
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<p>My first vehicle was a 1993 Isuzu pickup. Manual everything, no options, and a carbureted (!) 2.3-liter lump good for 90-something horsepower. Reliable, as you could imagine, because there was very little to break on this thing. If only that 2.3 had a timing chain instead of a belt– and perhaps fuel injection– it would’ve been pretty much perfect.</p>
<p>The Impulse was pretty cool. I saw a good example of one the other day. They had a style the GM clones (Geos) couldn’t touch. The dual round headlights? Very tasty.</p>
<p>I’d really like to see Isuzu divorce itself from any remaining GM/Toyota ties and go back to producing economical, smart vehicles for the US again– and NOT just SUVs, which is pretty much what buried their US presence if you ask me. Well, that and a nonexistent advertising budget. C’est la vie.</em></p>
<p>Me too. Isuzu cars are quirky. Once you drive one, you&#8217;re hooked. I&#8217;m afraid Toyota is going to do to Isuzu the same crap GM did to them: suck tech, sink them and then divorce.</p>
<p>If they ever produce another car, I&#8217;ll be one of the firsts in the showroom with the check in hand.</p>
<p>The Geo Storm (it&#8217;s brother/cousin, etc&#8230;) is mostly the same car sans: Lotus Tuned suspension, disk brakes, style. But it&#8217;s the same platform.</p>
<p><strong>From Brazil</strong></p>
<p>I drove my mom&#8217;s Siena to about 300K Kms, and the car has now 350K kms on the original motor. With minor maintenance.</p>
<p>I live in Venezuela, third world also. Good luck with the Logan and stupidly expensive Renault parts. At least the Fiat&#8217;s one are dirt cheap (well here)<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: design89</title>
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		<dc:creator>design89</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I`ve had my new Astra XR for 3 months now.I got a
good price with employee GM discount program in June thru the company I work for.My goal was to find a hatchback or wagon 5 door for under 20K and also got a $500 gas card.Took me 8 months to decide on a car from the 93 Audi 90 that was sold in days on Kijiji last Sept.Now need snow tires installed before December 15, it`s the new law in Quebec.
Read TTAC for up to date car news and your review of the Astra was helpfull but...you guys didn`t like it.</description>
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good price with employee GM discount program in June thru the company I work for.My goal was to find a hatchback or wagon 5 door for under 20K and also got a $500 gas card.Took me 8 months to decide on a car from the 93 Audi 90 that was sold in days on Kijiji last Sept.Now need snow tires installed before December 15, it`s the new law in Quebec.<br />
Read TTAC for up to date car news and your review of the Astra was helpfull but&#8230;you guys didn`t like it.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Banger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Banger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Stingray :&lt;/b&gt;


&lt;i&gt;&quot;Nope… nor planning to do so.

I have an Isuzu Impulse… quite satisfied with it.

Good to find another Isuzu fan here: Banger. Maybe not the same vehicle.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

My first vehicle was a 1993 Isuzu pickup. Manual everything, no options, and a carbureted (!) 2.3-liter lump good for 90-something horsepower. Reliable, as you could imagine, because there was very little to break on this thing. If only that 2.3 had a timing chain instead of a belt-- and perhaps fuel injection-- it would&#039;ve been pretty much perfect.

The Impulse was pretty cool. I saw a good example of one the other day. They had a style the GM clones (Geos) couldn&#039;t touch. The dual round headlights? Very tasty.

I&#039;d really like to see Isuzu divorce itself from any remaining GM/Toyota ties and go back to producing economical, smart vehicles for the US again-- and NOT just SUVs, which is pretty much what buried their US presence if you ask me. Well, that and a nonexistent advertising budget. C&#039;est la vie.

If Isuzu ever actually starts selling passenger cars and their own unique small pickup trucks (look up their rest-of-the-world pickup on Google-- beautiful), I&#039;ll feel a strange, almost magnetic pull into one of their showrooms. Heck, right now I have to fight the urge to try convincing my wife how much we could &quot;actually use&quot; an NPR medium-duty truck!</description>
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<p><i>&#8220;Nope… nor planning to do so.</p>
<p>I have an Isuzu Impulse… quite satisfied with it.</p>
<p>Good to find another Isuzu fan here: Banger. Maybe not the same vehicle.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>My first vehicle was a 1993 Isuzu pickup. Manual everything, no options, and a carbureted (!) 2.3-liter lump good for 90-something horsepower. Reliable, as you could imagine, because there was very little to break on this thing. If only that 2.3 had a timing chain instead of a belt&#8211; and perhaps fuel injection&#8211; it would&#8217;ve been pretty much perfect.</p>
<p>The Impulse was pretty cool. I saw a good example of one the other day. They had a style the GM clones (Geos) couldn&#8217;t touch. The dual round headlights? Very tasty.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d really like to see Isuzu divorce itself from any remaining GM/Toyota ties and go back to producing economical, smart vehicles for the US again&#8211; and NOT just SUVs, which is pretty much what buried their US presence if you ask me. Well, that and a nonexistent advertising budget. C&#8217;est la vie.</p>
<p>If Isuzu ever actually starts selling passenger cars and their own unique small pickup trucks (look up their rest-of-the-world pickup on Google&#8211; beautiful), I&#8217;ll feel a strange, almost magnetic pull into one of their showrooms. Heck, right now I have to fight the urge to try convincing my wife how much we could &#8220;actually use&#8221; an NPR medium-duty truck!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: BlackbirdHighway</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlackbirdHighway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 09:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bought two new (2008) cars recently. I find that I disagree with TTAC&#039;s views on cars about 90% of the time, so I don&#039;t see this site being very useful, unless I plan to just do the opposite of whatever TTAC suggests. But then there is still that 10%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Bought two new (2008) cars recently. I find that I disagree with TTAC&#8217;s views on cars about 90% of the time, so I don&#8217;t see this site being very useful, unless I plan to just do the opposite of whatever TTAC suggests. But then there is still that 10%.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: big_gms</title>
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		<dc:creator>big_gms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 07:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My well worn 1991 Buick LeSabre spent more of the last 2 months either in the shop or in my driveway awaiting more expensive age related repairs than it did on the road, so after 6+ years of otherwise very good service, it was time to say goodbye. I traded it in for a 2004 Mercury Grand Marquis LS just last week. It has 85,000 miles, is in great condition and I bought it from the same salesperson who sold it new. The wife and I both love it so far, although I don&#039;t think it will achieve the kind of gas mileage that a lot of people claim these cars are capable of...oh well. It&#039;s a big car, so I don&#039;t expect too much. I love the comfort and &quot;old-fashionedness&quot; that only a car like this can provide. Reliability is the number one thing I look for in a car, comfort second and style third and the Grand Marquis seems to fit the bill nicely. I did a lot of research before making a decision on what to buy, but it was mostly from sources other than TTAC (Carsurvey.org and Edmunds to name just a couple). I do find the comments posted here about the Panther platform cars rather amusing though. On one hand, there are the devoted fans of these cars (and I can easily see why). On the other, there are those who hate them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->My well worn 1991 Buick LeSabre spent more of the last 2 months either in the shop or in my driveway awaiting more expensive age related repairs than it did on the road, so after 6+ years of otherwise very good service, it was time to say goodbye. I traded it in for a 2004 Mercury Grand Marquis LS just last week. It has 85,000 miles, is in great condition and I bought it from the same salesperson who sold it new. The wife and I both love it so far, although I don&#8217;t think it will achieve the kind of gas mileage that a lot of people claim these cars are capable of&#8230;oh well. It&#8217;s a big car, so I don&#8217;t expect too much. I love the comfort and &#8220;old-fashionedness&#8221; that only a car like this can provide. Reliability is the number one thing I look for in a car, comfort second and style third and the Grand Marquis seems to fit the bill nicely. I did a lot of research before making a decision on what to buy, but it was mostly from sources other than TTAC (Carsurvey.org and Edmunds to name just a couple). I do find the comments posted here about the Panther platform cars rather amusing though. On one hand, there are the devoted fans of these cars (and I can easily see why). On the other, there are those who hate them.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: luke740</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 06:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always wanted a Mercedes-Benz G500, so I&#039;m a little bummed, though not surprised, that gas prices have not caused their resale values to drop much, if at all.

My last purchase was three years ago--a 2001 BMW 740i with the Sport Package--and I do not plan to purchase another car for at least another 2-3 years, unless I come across a well-kept, low-mileage 2004+ G500 that can be had for a reasonable price before then...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I&#8217;ve always wanted a Mercedes-Benz G500, so I&#8217;m a little bummed, though not surprised, that gas prices have not caused their resale values to drop much, if at all.</p>
<p>My last purchase was three years ago&#8211;a 2001 BMW 740i with the Sport Package&#8211;and I do not plan to purchase another car for at least another 2-3 years, unless I come across a well-kept, low-mileage 2004+ G500 that can be had for a reasonable price before then&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: FromBrazil</title>
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		<dc:creator>FromBrazil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 03:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, just bought (or leased) a brand-new one. We got a Renault Logan sedan (its wagon version was reviewed here on TTAC a couple of month ago and DID help to form an impression of the car), flex fuel car, 1.0L engine good for about 77hp on ethanol! Yipee!! (I gave up on big engines - anything larger than a 1.0 L one that is - 2 yrs ago due to gas prices). While the car is slow, it handles well, is solidly constructed and shoulld be fum to drive. never forget the old adage, it&#039;s more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast one slow (I wish). Also, it has all the amenities most people down here long for, namely power windows (just the front ones) and steering and air conditioning. ABS or air bags?? Don&#039;t you know I&#039;m in the 3rd World and my life comes cheap??!!

The interesting thing though is I sold my Ford Ka 2007 with 10K km on it rather than the older Fiat Palio 2005 with 32 k km on it. Why? The Palio though driven three times as far just seemed more well put together and available to go the long distance. All it has required is normal maintenance, while the brand-new Ford Ka (the Palio was bought a year old and with 10 k km on it)went back to the dealership at least 8 times in its first year (once staying there for about 3 weeks due to a problem in the AC). I intend to keep this car for the long term. 10 years is the goal. And I think it will make it. The Ford, well I just didn&#039;t trust it. I&#039;m a Ford fan, having had 2 other cars of theirs, but the Ka burned me for at least a good while.

So that brings me to the Reanault. My second. It will be putting my total ownership at 2 Renaults, 3 Fords an 6 Fiats. Why did I get the Reanult and not another Fiat? 2 reasons: Business opportunity (it came cheap, with a lot of goodies) and Fiats in Brazil are now so well regarded they have increased their prices and are now among the most expensive. Couldn&#039;t justify getting a Siena (direct competitor to the Logan) for over 3000 dollars or so more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Yep, just bought (or leased) a brand-new one. We got a Renault Logan sedan (its wagon version was reviewed here on TTAC a couple of month ago and DID help to form an impression of the car), flex fuel car, 1.0L engine good for about 77hp on ethanol! Yipee!! (I gave up on big engines &#8211; anything larger than a 1.0 L one that is &#8211; 2 yrs ago due to gas prices). While the car is slow, it handles well, is solidly constructed and shoulld be fum to drive. never forget the old adage, it&#8217;s more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast one slow (I wish). Also, it has all the amenities most people down here long for, namely power windows (just the front ones) and steering and air conditioning. ABS or air bags?? Don&#8217;t you know I&#8217;m in the 3rd World and my life comes cheap??!!</p>
<p>The interesting thing though is I sold my Ford Ka 2007 with 10K km on it rather than the older Fiat Palio 2005 with 32 k km on it. Why? The Palio though driven three times as far just seemed more well put together and available to go the long distance. All it has required is normal maintenance, while the brand-new Ford Ka (the Palio was bought a year old and with 10 k km on it)went back to the dealership at least 8 times in its first year (once staying there for about 3 weeks due to a problem in the AC). I intend to keep this car for the long term. 10 years is the goal. And I think it will make it. The Ford, well I just didn&#8217;t trust it. I&#8217;m a Ford fan, having had 2 other cars of theirs, but the Ka burned me for at least a good while.</p>
<p>So that brings me to the Reanault. My second. It will be putting my total ownership at 2 Renaults, 3 Fords an 6 Fiats. Why did I get the Reanult and not another Fiat? 2 reasons: Business opportunity (it came cheap, with a lot of goodies) and Fiats in Brazil are now so well regarded they have increased their prices and are now among the most expensive. Couldn&#8217;t justify getting a Siena (direct competitor to the Logan) for over 3000 dollars or so more.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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