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		<title>By: joeaverage</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/product-review-microsoft-zune/comment-page-1/#comment-1508463</link>
		<dc:creator>joeaverage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m avoiding the Zune and the iPod both. My wife has an iTouch and a Mac. Really nice pieces of gear but I don&#039;t like how it locks you into their &quot;scheme&quot;. The Zune surely does a similar thing. After years of fixing Win95/98/2000/XP/Vista machines (countless hours over the years for friends and work) I switched to Linux. Screwed around with that for a while and settled on a version that I really like and has all the right bells and whistles. There is alot of choice out there in Linux-land and I tried alot of them (dozens) before I picked a favorite. 

Here is how I do what I do for audio and video.

It serves well for my family but could be scaled up very well. 

For storage I use a D-Link NAS-323. Basically a Linux powered black box on my home network that we can all access at home and I could set it up for access away from home but I don&#039;t need that ability. The black box contains two hard drives that I picked out for low power consumption and max storage. We can read/write anything to that device from anywhere in the house and access it wirelessly through Wi-Fi. It carries the family pics, music, movies, TV shows, etc. All of our computers can access it. Both drives contain the same contents so if one drive dies I can replace it without losing anything.

We have a pair of older Palm PDAs and an older Dell Axiom that our kids can play music and movies on. They sound as good as my wife&#039;s iPod.

We simply pop out the SD cards, pop them into my Linux computer&#039;s card reader and the free Amarok jukebox recognizes them and we drag music to the cards. We can also drag movies onto the cards. We can also delete what is on the cards. 

My Nokia N810 (free Linux powered) can access the NAS wirelessly and transfer anything to or from the NAS - movies, music, docs, etc. I use Canola2, MPlayer (movies only) or MediaBox Media Center for playback. Canola and Mediabox look as spiffy as any store bought music players. 

My wife&#039;s iTouch is recognized by Amarok as well or she can do what she does with her Mac laptop to get music to and from the NAS. 

We can do all the typical music formats too. WMV, MP3, FLAC, and my favorite OGG. I have EasyTag and Picard Tag which allows me to alter the track tags or Amarok will allow me to do the work from within the player. All will even look up the tracks and try to tag the tracks themselves automatically. I can even gather album art this way. 

Again - all this for free on computers ranging from a 600 MHz former Win98 laptop, sub-400MHz Nokia N810 handheld tablet computer (tiny), to a 2.8 GHz Dell laptop and several in between. 

I use the standard D-LINK NAS Linux software (there are alternatives), Mint Linux KDE on the faster computers, Mint Linux Gnome for the slower computers, TinyME Linux on the slowest computer, and both the Dell Axiom and the Palm PDAs run TCMPCP media players on top of their standard factory supplied PDA software.

A person could also try Linux FreeNAS which makes a spare computer a NAS or GiantDisc which uses a spare Palm PDA as a wireless remote control for a jukebox you build out of a spare computer (my next project). The GiantDisc computer could also double as shared music storage.

Best of all I can play all the formats. I can supply music to any media player for the forseeable future. I can rip CDs or buy online music. Microsoft and Apple can release whatever &quot;special&quot; formats and updates they want that attempts to encumber my music collection somehow but I have easy access to my music at home or out and about. No subscriptions. 

No, I&#039;ll be keeping my wallet closed for any versions of the Zune or iPod.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I&#8217;m avoiding the Zune and the iPod both. My wife has an iTouch and a Mac. Really nice pieces of gear but I don&#8217;t like how it locks you into their &#8220;scheme&#8221;. The Zune surely does a similar thing. After years of fixing Win95/98/2000/XP/Vista machines (countless hours over the years for friends and work) I switched to Linux. Screwed around with that for a while and settled on a version that I really like and has all the right bells and whistles. There is alot of choice out there in Linux-land and I tried alot of them (dozens) before I picked a favorite. </p>
<p>Here is how I do what I do for audio and video.</p>
<p>It serves well for my family but could be scaled up very well. </p>
<p>For storage I use a D-Link NAS-323. Basically a Linux powered black box on my home network that we can all access at home and I could set it up for access away from home but I don&#8217;t need that ability. The black box contains two hard drives that I picked out for low power consumption and max storage. We can read/write anything to that device from anywhere in the house and access it wirelessly through Wi-Fi. It carries the family pics, music, movies, TV shows, etc. All of our computers can access it. Both drives contain the same contents so if one drive dies I can replace it without losing anything.</p>
<p>We have a pair of older Palm PDAs and an older Dell Axiom that our kids can play music and movies on. They sound as good as my wife&#8217;s iPod.</p>
<p>We simply pop out the SD cards, pop them into my Linux computer&#8217;s card reader and the free Amarok jukebox recognizes them and we drag music to the cards. We can also drag movies onto the cards. We can also delete what is on the cards. </p>
<p>My Nokia N810 (free Linux powered) can access the NAS wirelessly and transfer anything to or from the NAS &#8211; movies, music, docs, etc. I use Canola2, MPlayer (movies only) or MediaBox Media Center for playback. Canola and Mediabox look as spiffy as any store bought music players. </p>
<p>My wife&#8217;s iTouch is recognized by Amarok as well or she can do what she does with her Mac laptop to get music to and from the NAS. </p>
<p>We can do all the typical music formats too. WMV, MP3, FLAC, and my favorite OGG. I have EasyTag and Picard Tag which allows me to alter the track tags or Amarok will allow me to do the work from within the player. All will even look up the tracks and try to tag the tracks themselves automatically. I can even gather album art this way. </p>
<p>Again &#8211; all this for free on computers ranging from a 600 MHz former Win98 laptop, sub-400MHz Nokia N810 handheld tablet computer (tiny), to a 2.8 GHz Dell laptop and several in between. </p>
<p>I use the standard D-LINK NAS Linux software (there are alternatives), Mint Linux KDE on the faster computers, Mint Linux Gnome for the slower computers, TinyME Linux on the slowest computer, and both the Dell Axiom and the Palm PDAs run TCMPCP media players on top of their standard factory supplied PDA software.</p>
<p>A person could also try Linux FreeNAS which makes a spare computer a NAS or GiantDisc which uses a spare Palm PDA as a wireless remote control for a jukebox you build out of a spare computer (my next project). The GiantDisc computer could also double as shared music storage.</p>
<p>Best of all I can play all the formats. I can supply music to any media player for the forseeable future. I can rip CDs or buy online music. Microsoft and Apple can release whatever &#8220;special&#8221; formats and updates they want that attempts to encumber my music collection somehow but I have easy access to my music at home or out and about. No subscriptions. </p>
<p>No, I&#8217;ll be keeping my wallet closed for any versions of the Zune or iPod.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Sajeev Mehta</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/product-review-microsoft-zune/comment-page-1/#comment-1506628</link>
		<dc:creator>Sajeev Mehta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is sad, it turns out that the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wired.com/listening_post/2008/07/zune-tattoo-guy/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Zune Tattoo Guy no longer has that tattoo&lt;/a&gt;.  

&lt;em&gt;&quot;I am done. I have had the Zune since day 1 and have noticed littleimprovement. I have tried my best to support them every step of theway but the recent Xbox Live announcement at E3 made me lose it. Tonot include Zune Marketplace or the ability to load videos from XboxLive to your Zune made me finally give up. I am in the works offiguring the best way to get a new tattoo to cover the logo on my arm. Thanks for all the harsh comments and you will see very little of meanymore.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
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<p><em>&#8220;I am done. I have had the Zune since day 1 and have noticed littleimprovement. I have tried my best to support them every step of theway but the recent Xbox Live announcement at E3 made me lose it. Tonot include Zune Marketplace or the ability to load videos from XboxLive to your Zune made me finally give up. I am in the works offiguring the best way to get a new tattoo to cover the logo on my arm. Thanks for all the harsh comments and you will see very little of meanymore.&#8221;</em><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: agenthex</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/product-review-microsoft-zune/comment-page-1/#comment-1504666</link>
		<dc:creator>agenthex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;While everyone else was accepting QuickTime as the industry standard, Microsoft emulated its Netscape&gt;Exploder business model of making an inferior knockoff -- in this case, Windows Media Player -- with stolen code, then using its Windows monopoly to strong-arm everybody else into following suit.&lt;/em&gt;

That&#039;s what apple fanbois would love everyone else believe instead of their precious company making mediocre products with better marketing.

We&#039;re lucky the proprietary crap that is quicktime is not the industry standard.

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Like WM itself, it didn’t work. But Microsoft always hobbles inter-platform functionality between Windows machines and Macs, just to pressure users to go Windows.&lt;/em&gt;

That&#039;s funny, apple complaining about interoperability for a company that can barely enforce it within their own limited product range.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>While everyone else was accepting QuickTime as the industry standard, Microsoft emulated its Netscape&gt;Exploder business model of making an inferior knockoff &#8212; in this case, Windows Media Player &#8212; with stolen code, then using its Windows monopoly to strong-arm everybody else into following suit.</em></p>
<p>That&#8217;s what apple fanbois would love everyone else believe instead of their precious company making mediocre products with better marketing.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re lucky the proprietary crap that is quicktime is not the industry standard.</p>
<p>-</p>
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Like WM itself, it didn’t work. But Microsoft always hobbles inter-platform functionality between Windows machines and Macs, just to pressure users to go Windows.</em></p>
<p>That&#8217;s funny, apple complaining about interoperability for a company that can barely enforce it within their own limited product range.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: tonycd</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/product-review-microsoft-zune/comment-page-1/#comment-1504648</link>
		<dc:creator>tonycd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 19:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This has been apple’s problem from day 1. Basically it’s their way or the highway, and you get charged royal for following them. QT on windows has always been a joke.&quot;

QuickTime on Windows is a joke by Microsoft&#039;s choice. While everyone else was accepting QuickTime as the industry standard, Microsoft emulated its Netscape&gt;Exploder business model of making an inferior knockoff -- in this case, Windows Media Player -- with stolen code, then using its Windows monopoly to strong-arm everybody else into following suit.

Like WM itself, it didn&#039;t work. But Microsoft always hobbles inter-platform functionality between Windows machines and Macs, just to pressure users to go Windows. It&#039;s the same reason Office and Explorer for Mac always lack critical functions that the Windows versions get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&#8220;This has been apple’s problem from day 1. Basically it’s their way or the highway, and you get charged royal for following them. QT on windows has always been a joke.&#8221;</p>
<p>QuickTime on Windows is a joke by Microsoft&#8217;s choice. While everyone else was accepting QuickTime as the industry standard, Microsoft emulated its Netscape&gt;Exploder business model of making an inferior knockoff &#8212; in this case, Windows Media Player &#8212; with stolen code, then using its Windows monopoly to strong-arm everybody else into following suit.</p>
<p>Like WM itself, it didn&#8217;t work. But Microsoft always hobbles inter-platform functionality between Windows machines and Macs, just to pressure users to go Windows. It&#8217;s the same reason Office and Explorer for Mac always lack critical functions that the Windows versions get.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ZekeToronto</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/product-review-microsoft-zune/comment-page-1/#comment-1503947</link>
		<dc:creator>ZekeToronto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 03:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;quasimondo:  And yes, it’s evil when the damn program takes every song and moves it from how I had it organized into layers of endless layers of sub-directories (without my permission) with no way of reverting what they did.&lt;/i&gt;

Point one: iTunes did &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; do that without your permission, and never has. During the setup process, like most computer users steeped in Microsoft practice, you kept hitting the enter key. One of those dialogs you passed by asked whether you wanted iTunes to organize your music library. Unfortunately, the default is yes. But you did agree to it.

Point two: No matter how elegant and sophisticated you may think your personal music organizational methodology is, unless you &quot;succumb&quot; to the use of meta tags (as has been pointed out) you&#039;ll lose out on the many clever ways to construct smart playlists and use features like Genius that will actually increase the amount of enjoyment you can derive from your existing music library. 

It took me a while to see the light too, having had a large MP3 library that was impeccably organized long before there was an iTunes. Once I stopped resisting it however (and got my meta tags properly populated) I&#039;m really enjoying the new possibilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><i>quasimondo:  And yes, it’s evil when the damn program takes every song and moves it from how I had it organized into layers of endless layers of sub-directories (without my permission) with no way of reverting what they did.</i></p>
<p>Point one: iTunes did <i>not</i> do that without your permission, and never has. During the setup process, like most computer users steeped in Microsoft practice, you kept hitting the enter key. One of those dialogs you passed by asked whether you wanted iTunes to organize your music library. Unfortunately, the default is yes. But you did agree to it.</p>
<p>Point two: No matter how elegant and sophisticated you may think your personal music organizational methodology is, unless you &#8220;succumb&#8221; to the use of meta tags (as has been pointed out) you&#8217;ll lose out on the many clever ways to construct smart playlists and use features like Genius that will actually increase the amount of enjoyment you can derive from your existing music library. </p>
<p>It took me a while to see the light too, having had a large MP3 library that was impeccably organized long before there was an iTunes. Once I stopped resisting it however (and got my meta tags properly populated) I&#8217;m really enjoying the new possibilities.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Stewart Dean</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/product-review-microsoft-zune/comment-page-1/#comment-1502876</link>
		<dc:creator>Stewart Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re agenthex and others comments about MP3 player file hierarchy, organization and the like: I struggled with this when I decanted my CD collection into my Zune.  Eventually I stumbled over &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mp3tag.de/en/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; MP3tag &lt;/a&gt;which exposed and allowed me to change all the weird-ass tags, to easily renumber tracks, etc. etc. and things were much better.  I still have a collection of Surf music that is intractable tho.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Re agenthex and others comments about MP3 player file hierarchy, organization and the like: I struggled with this when I decanted my CD collection into my Zune.  Eventually I stumbled over <a href="http://www.mp3tag.de/en/index.html" rel="nofollow"> MP3tag </a>which exposed and allowed me to change all the weird-ass tags, to easily renumber tracks, etc. etc. and things were much better.  I still have a collection of Surf music that is intractable tho&#8230;&#8230;.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: agenthex</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/product-review-microsoft-zune/comment-page-1/#comment-1502834</link>
		<dc:creator>agenthex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 04:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;And yes, it&#039;s evil when the damn program takes every song and moves it from how I had it organized into layers of endless layers of sub-directories (without my permission) with no way of reverting what they did.&lt;/em&gt;

The zune / ipod / just about every modern music program/organizer does a similar job.

The idea is that they use the meta-info embedded in music files to determine absolutely which song(s) you have. The files are then organized/presented according to the predetermine buckets of album/artist/genre/etc, which is frustrating to those who prefer their own organizational vectors.

You can sort of work around this by using playlists as another presentation layer over this, but they usually cannot be embedded into a hierarchical structure.

Of course itunes just sucks in general, so it&#039;s a good decision overall. But if you want YOUR organization, best use a simpler directory-based player like creative or sandisk&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>And yes, it&#8217;s evil when the damn program takes every song and moves it from how I had it organized into layers of endless layers of sub-directories (without my permission) with no way of reverting what they did.</em></p>
<p>The zune / ipod / just about every modern music program/organizer does a similar job.</p>
<p>The idea is that they use the meta-info embedded in music files to determine absolutely which song(s) you have. The files are then organized/presented according to the predetermine buckets of album/artist/genre/etc, which is frustrating to those who prefer their own organizational vectors.</p>
<p>You can sort of work around this by using playlists as another presentation layer over this, but they usually cannot be embedded into a hierarchical structure.</p>
<p>Of course itunes just sucks in general, so it&#8217;s a good decision overall. But if you want YOUR organization, best use a simpler directory-based player like creative or sandisk&#8217;s.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: quasimondo</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/product-review-microsoft-zune/comment-page-1/#comment-1502827</link>
		<dc:creator>quasimondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Microsoft made it easy to import iTunes content to Zune, if you want to move to the “evil clutches” (seriously?) of another music system.&lt;/em&gt;

zune, here I come!

And yes, it&#039;s evil when the damn program takes every song and moves it from how I had it organized into layers of endless layers of sub-directories (without my permission) with no way of reverting what they did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>Microsoft made it easy to import iTunes content to Zune, if you want to move to the “evil clutches” (seriously?) of another music system.</em></p>
<p>zune, here I come!</p>
<p>And yes, it&#8217;s evil when the damn program takes every song and moves it from how I had it organized into layers of endless layers of sub-directories (without my permission) with no way of reverting what they did.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: fallout11</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/product-review-microsoft-zune/comment-page-1/#comment-1502532</link>
		<dc:creator>fallout11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I abhor monopolies and refused to support the Ipod behemoth, I bought my wife a spanking new 80GB Zune for Christmas back in 2007. After more than 4 hours of unsuccessfully attempting to install the feeble Zune client software on our home computer and update the firmware on the Zune (as they refused to talk to each other), I gave up on it and back it went to the store.  An easy to use and effortless to install &amp; sync Creative Zen product replaced it, and 10 minutes later was up and running.
ALL of Microsoft&#039;s product offerings since 2005 have been fundamentally flawed....Vista, Office 2007 (resource hog), Zune, several abortive search engines, etc. They really have become the GM of the personal computer age.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->As I abhor monopolies and refused to support the Ipod behemoth, I bought my wife a spanking new 80GB Zune for Christmas back in 2007. After more than 4 hours of unsuccessfully attempting to install the feeble Zune client software on our home computer and update the firmware on the Zune (as they refused to talk to each other), I gave up on it and back it went to the store.  An easy to use and effortless to install &amp; sync Creative Zen product replaced it, and 10 minutes later was up and running.<br />
ALL of Microsoft&#8217;s product offerings since 2005 have been fundamentally flawed&#8230;.Vista, Office 2007 (resource hog), Zune, several abortive search engines, etc. They really have become the GM of the personal computer age.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Sajeev Mehta</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/product-review-microsoft-zune/comment-page-1/#comment-1502401</link>
		<dc:creator>Sajeev Mehta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;quasimondo : If I could find a way to free my library from the evil clutches of iTunes, I would free myself from this damned iPod in a heartbeat.&lt;/em&gt;

Microsoft made it easy to import iTunes content to Zune, if you want to move to the &quot;evil clutches&quot; (seriously?) of another music system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>quasimondo : If I could find a way to free my library from the evil clutches of iTunes, I would free myself from this damned iPod in a heartbeat.</em></p>
<p>Microsoft made it easy to import iTunes content to Zune, if you want to move to the &#8220;evil clutches&#8221; (seriously?) of another music system.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: William C Montgomery</title>
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		<dc:creator>William C Montgomery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Microsoft has become the General Motors of the computer age.  They have a lot of talented engineers but their best efforts end up being compromised by the bloated fractured dysfunctional money grubbing bureaucracy.  Thirty years from now when the company is demanding a federal bailout, pundits will ask how they could have squandered their dominant market share and billions in cash.

Meanwhile, Steve Jobs 2.0 makes getting a new liver cool.  Before you know it, everyone will be doing it.  May he live long and prosper.

Chuck Goolsbee, I’ve seen dozens of Zunes here in Texas.  They’re stacked neatly on the shelf at Fry’s Electronics.  You can’t miss them.  They’ve been there for months – right next to the line of people waiting to get their new iPods and iPhones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Microsoft has become the General Motors of the computer age.  They have a lot of talented engineers but their best efforts end up being compromised by the bloated fractured dysfunctional money grubbing bureaucracy.  Thirty years from now when the company is demanding a federal bailout, pundits will ask how they could have squandered their dominant market share and billions in cash.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, Steve Jobs 2.0 makes getting a new liver cool.  Before you know it, everyone will be doing it.  May he live long and prosper.</p>
<p>Chuck Goolsbee, I’ve seen dozens of Zunes here in Texas.  They’re stacked neatly on the shelf at Fry’s Electronics.  You can’t miss them.  They’ve been there for months – right next to the line of people waiting to get their new iPods and iPhones.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: KixStart</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/product-review-microsoft-zune/comment-page-1/#comment-1502293</link>
		<dc:creator>KixStart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff Puthuff,

Hey, thanks!  In addition to my iPods, I also have a phone with MP3 capability.  It&#039;s only 1GB but it&#039;s still handy to have loaded with music when I don&#039;t have an iPod along.</description>
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<p>Hey, thanks!  In addition to my iPods, I also have a phone with MP3 capability.  It&#8217;s only 1GB but it&#8217;s still handy to have loaded with music when I don&#8217;t have an iPod along.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Puthuff</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/product-review-microsoft-zune/comment-page-1/#comment-1502292</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Puthuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 03:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>quasi, 

&quot;Windows only: Freeware app &quot;iTunes Sync&quot; syncs and transfers your iTunes music to non-iPod MP3 players.

As long as your MP3 player shows up as a drive letter in Windows (and most of them do), iTunes Sync will work. You select an iTunes playlist to transfer over to the device and go.&quot;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://lifehacker.com/269105/itunes-sync-transfers-your-itunes-library-to-other-mp3-players&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Source&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->quasi, </p>
<p>&#8220;Windows only: Freeware app &#8220;iTunes Sync&#8221; syncs and transfers your iTunes music to non-iPod MP3 players.</p>
<p>As long as your MP3 player shows up as a drive letter in Windows (and most of them do), iTunes Sync will work. You select an iTunes playlist to transfer over to the device and go.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://lifehacker.com/269105/itunes-sync-transfers-your-itunes-library-to-other-mp3-players" rel="nofollow">Source</a><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: KixStart</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/product-review-microsoft-zune/comment-page-1/#comment-1502289</link>
		<dc:creator>KixStart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 03:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mocktard: &lt;em&gt;&quot;I have had similar experiences with iPod failures… really a shame, but they last long enough that I usually want to upgrade anyway.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Mine has lasted long past the point where I wanted to upgrade.  Damn it all.

---

quasimondo,

Can&#039;t you record audio CDs and reimport?  Too many songs to be a practical solution?

Hey, here&#039;s a thought... outsource to some low-wage country.  GM would do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->mocktard: <em>&#8220;I have had similar experiences with iPod failures… really a shame, but they last long enough that I usually want to upgrade anyway.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Mine has lasted long past the point where I wanted to upgrade.  Damn it all.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>quasimondo,</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t you record audio CDs and reimport?  Too many songs to be a practical solution?</p>
<p>Hey, here&#8217;s a thought&#8230; outsource to some low-wage country.  GM would do it.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: quasimondo</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/product-review-microsoft-zune/comment-page-1/#comment-1502287</link>
		<dc:creator>quasimondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 03:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I could find a way to free my library from the evil clutches of iTunes, I would free myself from this damned iPod in a heartbeat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->If I could find a way to free my library from the evil clutches of iTunes, I would free myself from this damned iPod in a heartbeat.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: petrolhead85</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/product-review-microsoft-zune/comment-page-1/#comment-1502174</link>
		<dc:creator>petrolhead85</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Microsoft Zune. I can&#039;t say that I&#039;ve actually seen one in person. Ever. I&#039;m serious, I don&#039;t even have a clue what they look like.

As for iPods, well my old-school (monochrome screen) 20GB is running just like new after nearly 5 years of heavy use and as of last week I&#039;m the proud owner of a 32GB iPod Touch. Both iPods sync beautifully to my MacBook, which replaced a Powerbook G4 last year. So I guesss I&#039;m not exactly part of Microsoft&#039;s target audience!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The Microsoft Zune. I can&#8217;t say that I&#8217;ve actually seen one in person. Ever. I&#8217;m serious, I don&#8217;t even have a clue what they look like.</p>
<p>As for iPods, well my old-school (monochrome screen) 20GB is running just like new after nearly 5 years of heavy use and as of last week I&#8217;m the proud owner of a 32GB iPod Touch. Both iPods sync beautifully to my MacBook, which replaced a Powerbook G4 last year. So I guesss I&#8217;m not exactly part of Microsoft&#8217;s target audience!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: mocktard</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/product-review-microsoft-zune/comment-page-1/#comment-1502120</link>
		<dc:creator>mocktard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;@Hank&lt;/em&gt;

Hehe, very true.

iTunes limits the configuration options, which actually makes most people &lt;i&gt;happier&lt;/i&gt;.  Simple is better.  This is why Apple has sold one hundred gajillion iPods, and currently sells the most popular consumer (sorry RIM) smartphone on the market.

&lt;em&gt;@TriShield&lt;/em&gt;

I have had similar experiences with iPod failures... really a shame, but they last long enough that I usually want to upgrade anyway.  I am an ideal Apple consumer in that regard.

So far my iPhone has held up, however.</description>
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<p>Hehe, very true.</p>
<p>iTunes limits the configuration options, which actually makes most people <i>happier</i>.  Simple is better.  This is why Apple has sold one hundred gajillion iPods, and currently sells the most popular consumer (sorry RIM) smartphone on the market.</p>
<p><em>@TriShield</em></p>
<p>I have had similar experiences with iPod failures&#8230; really a shame, but they last long enough that I usually want to upgrade anyway.  I am an ideal Apple consumer in that regard.</p>
<p>So far my iPhone has held up, however.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Hank</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/product-review-microsoft-zune/comment-page-1/#comment-1502038</link>
		<dc:creator>Hank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If &lt;em&gt;iTunes &lt;/em&gt;is difficult to use, please, don&#039;t drive a car. lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->If <em>iTunes </em>is difficult to use, please, don&#8217;t drive a car. lol<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: TriShield</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/product-review-microsoft-zune/comment-page-1/#comment-1502024</link>
		<dc:creator>TriShield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had two iPods and both failed within a year and a half of purchase.  I gave Apple and iTunes a fair shake and was not impressed.

I defected to Zune when it came back and haven&#039;t looked back since.  No issues whatsoever with either Zune purchase.  Both still run like new almost two years later.  The Zune software is much more user friendly too IMO.

I highly recommend checking out the Zune if you&#039;re in the market for an mp3 player, it&#039;s a worth competitor and replacement to the iPod.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I had two iPods and both failed within a year and a half of purchase.  I gave Apple and iTunes a fair shake and was not impressed.</p>
<p>I defected to Zune when it came back and haven&#8217;t looked back since.  No issues whatsoever with either Zune purchase.  Both still run like new almost two years later.  The Zune software is much more user friendly too IMO.</p>
<p>I highly recommend checking out the Zune if you&#8217;re in the market for an mp3 player, it&#8217;s a worth competitor and replacement to the iPod.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: agenthex</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/product-review-microsoft-zune/comment-page-1/#comment-1502008</link>
		<dc:creator>agenthex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;It makes Windows look like a model of simplicity and corporate non-intrusion.
It looks like we are all supposed to do as Steve Jobs has decided for us little ants. Horrible.&lt;/em&gt;

This has been apple&#039;s problem from day 1. Basically it&#039;s their way or the highway, and you get charged royal for following them. QT on windows has always been a joke.

Interestingly enough, MS has been trying to foster and recreate the same rich ecosystem that exists on the desktop on other devices and it simply does not work. So, they&#039;ve actually switched over to more monopolistic/proprietary solutions like apple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>It makes Windows look like a model of simplicity and corporate non-intrusion.<br />
It looks like we are all supposed to do as Steve Jobs has decided for us little ants. Horrible.</em></p>
<p>This has been apple&#8217;s problem from day 1. Basically it&#8217;s their way or the highway, and you get charged royal for following them. QT on windows has always been a joke.</p>
<p>Interestingly enough, MS has been trying to foster and recreate the same rich ecosystem that exists on the desktop on other devices and it simply does not work. So, they&#8217;ve actually switched over to more monopolistic/proprietary solutions like apple.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: agenthex</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/product-review-microsoft-zune/comment-page-1/#comment-1502002</link>
		<dc:creator>agenthex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;The Zune isn’t bad, but the only way it will beat the iPod is by being better than it, not be being crippled and discounted. Much like, oh, anything in Detroit, it has a reputation as being substandard. The Zune is the ghetto MP3 player you buy on sale, not a legitimate competitor&lt;/em&gt;

Microsoft&#039;s been doing this with pretty much all their products after Windows and Office, and very often succeeding. The reality is that they bury their competitors under a mountain of money, much like they&#039;ll do soon with the sony ps3. You would have a point if you criticized them on their general strategy to also assume market leadership, which tends to waste a lot of cash early on with limited success.

The zune software is currently better than itunes, and the the hardware will soon be with the HD release.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>The Zune isn’t bad, but the only way it will beat the iPod is by being better than it, not be being crippled and discounted. Much like, oh, anything in Detroit, it has a reputation as being substandard. The Zune is the ghetto MP3 player you buy on sale, not a legitimate competitor</em></p>
<p>Microsoft&#8217;s been doing this with pretty much all their products after Windows and Office, and very often succeeding. The reality is that they bury their competitors under a mountain of money, much like they&#8217;ll do soon with the sony ps3. You would have a point if you criticized them on their general strategy to also assume market leadership, which tends to waste a lot of cash early on with limited success.</p>
<p>The zune software is currently better than itunes, and the the hardware will soon be with the HD release.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: AKM</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/product-review-microsoft-zune/comment-page-1/#comment-1501993</link>
		<dc:creator>AKM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an iPod, because my wife has one and I didn&#039;t want to have 2 music libraries, but GOD DO I HATE ITUNES!!!!
It makes Windows look like a model of simplicity and corporate non-intrusion. 
It looks like we are all supposed to do as Steve Jobs has decided for us little ants. Horrible.

Most other MP3 players run on several pieces of software that can be configured by users, such as winamp, and can accept music files directly from the file directory. Oh, and not just in apple&#039;s proprietary format.

Now, if Zune suffers from similar problems, without the great interface offered by iPods themselves, it&#039;s a lose-lose proposition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I have an iPod, because my wife has one and I didn&#8217;t want to have 2 music libraries, but GOD DO I HATE ITUNES!!!!<br />
It makes Windows look like a model of simplicity and corporate non-intrusion.<br />
It looks like we are all supposed to do as Steve Jobs has decided for us little ants. Horrible.</p>
<p>Most other MP3 players run on several pieces of software that can be configured by users, such as winamp, and can accept music files directly from the file directory. Oh, and not just in apple&#8217;s proprietary format.</p>
<p>Now, if Zune suffers from similar problems, without the great interface offered by iPods themselves, it&#8217;s a lose-lose proposition.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Goolsbee</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/product-review-microsoft-zune/comment-page-1/#comment-1501944</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Goolsbee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in the Seattle area, the home of Microsoft... and I have only ever seen &lt;em&gt;ONE&lt;/em&gt; Zune, ever.

--chuck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I live in the Seattle area, the home of Microsoft&#8230; and I have only ever seen <em>ONE</em> Zune, ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Dukeboy01</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/product-review-microsoft-zune/comment-page-1/#comment-1501890</link>
		<dc:creator>Dukeboy01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$140 seems a bit steep for the car charger. I got mine for around half that at Target.

I bought my 4 GB Zune for a deep discount when CompUSA was going tits up and closing their stores. I&#039;d been thinking about getting an MP3 player and it was kind of an impulse buy. I got my wife a 30 GB model for Valentine&#039;s day a few months later and then got my kid a 4 GB model the following Christmas.

I suppose in hindsight that a more expensive iPod might have been the better way to go, but at this point, with three of the damn things and a personal library of over 10,000 songs, we&#039;re committed to it like the pig in a ham sandwich.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->$140 seems a bit steep for the car charger. I got mine for around half that at Target.</p>
<p>I bought my 4 GB Zune for a deep discount when CompUSA was going tits up and closing their stores. I&#8217;d been thinking about getting an MP3 player and it was kind of an impulse buy. I got my wife a 30 GB model for Valentine&#8217;s day a few months later and then got my kid a 4 GB model the following Christmas.</p>
<p>I suppose in hindsight that a more expensive iPod might have been the better way to go, but at this point, with three of the damn things and a personal library of over 10,000 songs, we&#8217;re committed to it like the pig in a ham sandwich.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Farago</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/product-review-microsoft-zune/comment-page-1/#comment-1501867</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Farago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mocktard 

It&#039;s a car gizmo.</description>
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