Comments on: Porsche Faces “Mild Recession” with Spicier Cayenne

By: Detroit-Iron

Detroit-Iron — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 03:51:38 +0000

BTW the manual tranny is a joke. The only a-holes with enough excess cash and and big enough brain-cell deficit to consider such a turd live in places where traffic makes a manual untenable.

By: Detroit-Iron

Detroit-Iron — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 03:47:56 +0000

I believe the 928 was intended as I high-end Corvette competitor. Porsche needs to be careful of falling into the GM trap of thinking that they are only competing with themselves and crippling models to prevent them from competing with other vehicles in their fleet (ahem, no turbo caymen/boxster ’cause it might hurt 911 sales). There are other luxury manufacturers who compete in Porsche’s space.

By: jthorner

jthorner — Sun, 10 Feb 2008 06:35:54 +0000

Now that the dot bombers, house flippers and the rest of the easy money crowd have crashed and burned the market for Porsches is going to contract big time. Nobody needs one. They are sold to people who want to flaunt their ability to buy.

The only reason to buy a Porsche SUV is to flash your cash … even if you don’t have the cash but instead have an over $1000/month payment/lease.

By: JJ

JJ — Sun, 10 Feb 2008 01:02:24 +0000

Because the reason (or one of them) Porsche axed the 928 was because it ate into 911 sales.

The 928 was actually intended to replace the 911 at first, so therefore intended to eat all the sales. At the time it was launched Porsche only offered one remaining version of the 911 (in 78). Ultimately things worked out a little different.

Still, luckily for Porsche there were enough differnces between the models to have a market for both, although the 928 was never really a big succes, especially not in Europe. The 928 was very American compared to the 911’s Europeanness.

Nowadays though I don’t think they can pull of another 928. First of all because it would and should be better in a lot of ways than the 911 to make it marketable, killing the 911 and the 911 brand. And second, there is much more credible competition in the market it would operate in now than back then (Aston Martin, Maserati, Jaguar).

In fact, thinking about it, the new 928 exists already, it’s called 911 Turbo. It’s heavy, has got effortless power, luxury and the handling is easier and more boring than ever before. Yes, the engine is still in the back but it makes no differnce because no-one notices that by driving due to all the electronic aides and 4 wheel drive.

The real new Turbo is called GT2 these days.

And the Cayenne, Panamera and buying VW are all stupid. Especially buying VW.

By: Skooter

Skooter — Sat, 09 Feb 2008 18:35:38 +0000

Great! A full sized Porsche SUV V8 with a stick! Sign me up for one! Not.

By: HEATHROI

HEATHROI — Sat, 09 Feb 2008 02:12:00 +0000

you have to wonder why the Sultans of Stuttgart are putting this much effort into an SUV– when the same drivetrain would be perfect for a resurrection of the 928.

Because the reason (or one of them) Porsche axed the 928 was because it ate into 911 sales.

By: speedlaw

speedlaw — Sat, 09 Feb 2008 01:46:34 +0000

I recently saw the commercial. A race porsche revving, very cool. Fade to driver in his SUV, channeling this…ack. Would have worked if there was a Cayman, or 911 used.

The problem is that Porsche can’t do fleet sales to keep the assembly line running, whereas the big 2.7 can, so they have to find a home for all these trucks that come off the line.

Why couldn’t Porsche come up with a BMW 3 series beater. They have the cred, the tech, and the design. Instead they design a Maserati Quattroporte competitior and a truck. D’oH.

By: Michael.Martineck

Michael.Martineck — Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:13:28 +0000

Virtual Insanity –
Porches are cooler than VWs. I’m sorry. There’s no way around it. The dealership experience alone is probably worth the difference in price. Which is ultimately the reason I think the Phaeton faded away. Then there’s the fact that the Tourag really is different in terms of aim, flavor and equipment.

By: Virtual Insanity

Virtual Insanity — Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:47:49 +0000

Why would anyone buy the Cayenne over the VW? It makes absolutely no sense at all.

By: Mj0lnir

Mj0lnir — Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:45:22 +0000

you have to wonder why the Sultans of Stuttgart are putting this much effort into an SUV– when the same drivetrain would be perfect for a resurrection of the 928. A move like that would make a lot more sense for the sports car brand than the hybrid Cayennes and four-door Panameras about to start rolling out of Stuttgart. Just sayin’…

Dead on.

By: kansei

kansei — Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:18:24 +0000

You can get a 6-speed manual in that gigantic SUV? that’s so awesome!

I still wouldn’t touch or go near an SUV but still, very awesome.

It angers me that Mazda stripped the 6-speed manual from the CX-7 for sale in North America :(