Comments on: The Maus that Roared: Porsche Seizes Control of VW http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/porsche-declares-victory-control-over-vw/ The Truth About Cars is dedicated to providing candid, unbiased automobile reviews and the latest in auto industry news. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:17:20 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Johnster http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/porsche-declares-victory-control-over-vw/comment-page-1/#comment-774852 Johnster Wed, 17 Sep 2008 04:42:46 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=79222#comment-774852 I can't get Hal's link to the FT to work. Try this one. I think it's the same story. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f0dc645c-8418-11dd-bf00-000077b07658.html I can’t get Hal’s link to the FT to work. Try this one. I think it’s the same story.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f0dc645c-8418-11dd-bf00-000077b07658.html

]]> By: hal http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/porsche-declares-victory-control-over-vw/comment-page-1/#comment-774121 hal Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:10:23 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=79222#comment-774121 There is a good explanation of all this in the FT http://tinyurl.com/ftporsche (registration is reqd but free) There is a good explanation of all this in the FT
http://tinyurl.com/ftporsche (registration is reqd but free)

]]> By: Detroit-Iron http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/porsche-declares-victory-control-over-vw/comment-page-1/#comment-773872 Detroit-Iron Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:58:15 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=79222#comment-773872 Wot we go'n t'do tomorrow night, Wendelin? The same thing we do every night Stefan, try to take over the World! Wot we go’n t’do tomorrow night, Wendelin?

The same thing we do every night Stefan, try to take over the World!

]]> By: marcj http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/porsche-declares-victory-control-over-vw/comment-page-1/#comment-773631 marcj Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:01:14 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=79222#comment-773631 In a perfect world this would help keep the Porsche marque "pure". It can provide them with steady cash flow through volume sales of veedubs and audis, a bigger R&D pipeline, and thus it would help eliminate the temptation to go downmarket to attract bigger volume buyers. Sadly Porsche already seems to be losing the plot: the Cayenne was basically a way to sell more Porsches to support 911 production, and the Panamera seems like it's in a similar vein (hard to tell right now of course - it could be the best 911 ever, just with two extra doors). In my view the four door action only cheapens the brand. Porsche would be better served by helping to develop those types of products for VW/Audi/Bugatti, and then using what they learn to build better sports coupes. But I fear it's too late for them to turn back now. In a perfect world this would help keep the Porsche marque “pure”. It can provide them with steady cash flow through volume sales of veedubs and audis, a bigger R&D pipeline, and thus it would help eliminate the temptation to go downmarket to attract bigger volume buyers. Sadly Porsche already seems to be losing the plot: the Cayenne was basically a way to sell more Porsches to support 911 production, and the Panamera seems like it’s in a similar vein (hard to tell right now of course – it could be the best 911 ever, just with two extra doors). In my view the four door action only cheapens the brand. Porsche would be better served by helping to develop those types of products for VW/Audi/Bugatti, and then using what they learn to build better sports coupes. But I fear it’s too late for them to turn back now.

]]> By: Dyl911 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/porsche-declares-victory-control-over-vw/comment-page-1/#comment-773321 Dyl911 Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:40:31 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=79222#comment-773321 Is it too much to hope that VW/Audi's quality control is improved with a new overlord? Is it too much to hope that VW/Audi’s quality control is improved with a new overlord?

]]> By: Michael Karesh http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/porsche-declares-victory-control-over-vw/comment-page-1/#comment-773262 Michael Karesh Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:26:07 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=79222#comment-773262 They're probably doing this because VW has always been a necessary partner--a company Porsche's size can't develop all of the high-tech bits a car needs these days on its own--and this cements the relationship. Also, some protection against a downturn in the ultra-premium car market. VW's business is less cyclical than Porsches. They won't be selling as many Porsches in the NYC area in the coming year or three... They’re probably doing this because VW has always been a necessary partner–a company Porsche’s size can’t develop all of the high-tech bits a car needs these days on its own–and this cements the relationship.

Also, some protection against a downturn in the ultra-premium car market. VW’s business is less cyclical than Porsches. They won’t be selling as many Porsches in the NYC area in the coming year or three…

]]> By: Tommy http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/porsche-declares-victory-control-over-vw/comment-page-1/#comment-773031 Tommy Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:42:20 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=79222#comment-773031 <em>MikeInCanada</em>: Money, why else? I don't see Audi going away anytime soon. If anything, Audi and VW overlap more than Audi and Porsche do. MikeInCanada: Money, why else?

I don’t see Audi going away anytime soon. If anything, Audi and VW overlap more than Audi and Porsche do.

]]> By: MikeInCanada http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/porsche-declares-victory-control-over-vw/comment-page-1/#comment-772942 MikeInCanada Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:30:09 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=79222#comment-772942 ....and why are they doing this? Should I be looking for a flat 6 in future Golf's? ….and why are they doing this? Should I be looking for a flat 6 in future Golf’s?

]]> By: Robert Farago http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/porsche-declares-victory-control-over-vw/comment-page-1/#comment-772802 Robert Farago Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:53:07 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=79222#comment-772802 <em>ChrisHaak : </em> Right you are. Text amended. ChrisHaak :

Right you are. Text amended.

]]> By: Chris Haak http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/porsche-declares-victory-control-over-vw/comment-page-1/#comment-772731 Chris Haak Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:46:28 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=79222#comment-772731 They raised the stake to 35%, not 38% (actually, 35.14% according to the WSJ). They raised the stake to 35%, not 38% (actually, 35.14% according to the WSJ).

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