Chris Harris was the driver and he drove each car for three laps (one out lap, and two flying laps). Naturally we recorded the laps on video and recorded the lap and section times on Racelogic telemetry.
We are busy finishing the video and will shortly publish the feature story and full results.

This is as close as you’ll probably get to an independent and unbiased validation of their respective ‘claimed’ lap times so it will be interesting to see how this conversation goes after the results are published.

Thank you for proving the point I made earlier.

Also, for all the, “Gee-Whiz & Bling,” the ZR-1 is a freaking over-wrought toy. Not a car. And for the record, that see through plastic panel on the hood is as retarded as the day is long.

Who knows, maybe they will sell some cars on mondays.

Most modern racing is lame anyway. This would be much more interesting.

Nissan GT-R, Patriot Act Special Edition…

how many times has someone said this about the 911 only to have the next gen faster and better?

http://www.sportauto-online.de/test_U_technik/fahrberichte/hxcms_article_508540_14469.hbs

right at the bottom. Sport auto could only manage a 7:50 lap.

You two may be right… and I may be wrong.

My point is that I don’t care a shit anymore about the GT-R test in the Nürburgring because after all I’ve read I concluded the results are bullshit.

The car looks cool, the GPS Big Brother BS is definitely NOT cool, and it has 480HP, AWD, blah blah blah… it’s a great bang for the buck and sports car. Why they cheated, given they had a great product in hands? Good question.

I saw the ZR-1 video and was scary. But I bet an even better pilot may have done a bit better. Just my 2 cents on this. I didn’t see the GT-R, but this time, I’ll see the one Mr. Farago posted.

About Porsche… it took them too long to cry foul (3-4 months), given all the internet blood that flowed since the test.

Good luck find a GT-R at that price.

Has someone done a proper track test of that yet? We know it’ll be quick, but what makes you think it will handle well enough? Didn’t they make it somewhat softer than the Z06 after the nonstop complaints about ride quality.

It’s been well documented time and again that the GT-R is making MORE than the claimed 480bhp. By most estimates the car is closer to 520bhp at least.

A ZR-1 Vette will whip both GT-R and 911 asses for equal or less money. And it has the wonderful sounding American V8.

So screw them.

The GT2, GT3 and GT3RS are all strong indications that Porsche has not lost its focus on the performance enthusiast. If you include the Turbo, that is essentially 4 supercars from one company.

There is no reason why they shouldn’t sell autobox Boxsters and Cayennes if they can make money from them. If those cars allow them to keep funding their customer RSR program, Cup Cars, and ALMS prototypes then so be it.

Unless you are a non-objective Porsche fan-boy can you really be suprised that Nissan is capable of building a car that can actually put down some numbers that has made Porsche blink.

I’m far from a Porche fan-boy. I think they’re purchased exclusively by douchebags (no offense RF), but the you’ve got to admit the numbers smell pretty fishy. 7:29 is stupidly fast. A ~450 HP Nissan GTR essentially ties a ~640 HP Corvette ZR1? Beats an equally powerful and lighter 911 turbo?

I just don’t think that’s a reasonable claim unless it’s on racing tires, which would be cheating.

I think for the production GTR on street tires, 7:54 sounds a lot closer to the mark.

Actually, that crown resides with GM. As pointed out previously, both the Prosche and Nissan were bested by a Corvette around the Ring.

Porsche has been sitting on its a$$ of lately enjoying little to no competition in the upper-end sportscar market ($50,000 to $100,000). For about tht last 15 years outside of the Corvette and M3 there hasn’t been many challangers to the 911’s level of performance. Until the latest model hits the street the base 911 has seen a total increase in HP of only about 40hp in the last ten years. Porsche has also lagged behind in getting a proper dual-cutch auto-shifting gearbox to market, ironic since this is something they invented IIRC.

For the “most profitable car company” IMO Porsche has not done much of lately other than play around with mounting the engine in front or behind the rear axle in what I understand in the same platform. They are also simply playing around with engine displacement between the Boxster/ Cayman and the 911 to get different levels of power. Not too long ago Porsche was able to squeeze a good 10 to 15%+ hp out of the same engine displacement as everyone else.
The Cayenne is really nothing more than a VW toureg with a few tweaks.

Unless you are a non-objective Porsche fan-boy can you really be suprised that Nissan is capable of building a car that can actually put down some numbers that has made Porsche blink. IMHO Porsche, with its current lineup is an easy target to hit. You have a Boxster and Cayman that are being held back as to not outshine the cash-cow 911 and a 911 that has reached its rear-engine peak. While Porsche has been concentrating on its sedan project it has left its sportscars wide open to be surpassed in terms of performance.

Nissan did their Homework on the GT-R project. Just like Porsche in 1984 with the 959 Nissan set out to build a technical tour de force and succeeded, plain and simple!

Rather than posting some silly rigged test results maybe Porsche should re-adjust it focus back to the performance enthusiaist and away from the Boutique Poser Crowd that are buying up those autobox equiped boxsters I see all over NYC.

That along with the professional results would tell me a lot about the cars.

That would be “sehr unglücklich”…

but if you want to magazine race, check out this month’s road and track

The Ultimate Track Test

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=31&article_id=6939

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/download/0908_cvr_finaltally.pdf

They can bring in a neutral party if they want that claimed verified but as it stands, the GT-R (much as I hate to admit its claimed 480hp is real) is the King.