Piston Slap: Mazda Protege5: In God We Rust?

Sajeev Mehta
by Sajeev Mehta

Motorlegends.com‘s motor legend David Holzman forwards an e-mail:

My six year old 2003 Mazda Protoge5 is rusting out pretty bad [see: attached]. I had the left rear panel repaired two years ago (I didn’t realize then that the body was still under warranty). But the panel has continued to rust, to the point where the bracket that holds the bumper failed. From my online research, rust seems to be a problem with some vehicles of this model. I have seen some on the road with similar rust and others with none at all. I called the dealer and they told me to go away. Mazda has washed their hands of this problem and left those of us unfortunate enough to have bought the vehicle from this particular batch up the creek. We obviously can’t sell the car for anything near what others are selling for and I doubt it can be on the road for more than couple years before the rust renders it useless. Do we have any recourse?



Sajeev answers:

OMG, those pictures are scary! Et tu, strut tower?

Legally speaking, Mazda’s rust proofing warranty is for five years with no mileage restrictions. Unless the car sat on a dealer lot for a year, that warranty expired. So your friend is totally screwed.

Mazda could rectify the situation, going after the vendor of toothless chemicals that caused this problem. But body rot isn’t a quick fix for anyone involved, nobody wants to touch that problem. It’s tragic, actually.

Getting lawyered up might work but don’t expect a quick resolution. Talk to a lawyer that specializes in class-action lawsuits and ask (on various car forums) if anyone else is interested. If your query gets downplayed/deleted on a Mazda forum, there’s a strong manufacturer-sponsored undercurrent behind the scenes. And that’s gonna make things tough.

But you can do it: if street racers can sue and (ultimately) bitch-slap Ford for something as trivial as underpowering the 1999 Cobra, nothing is impossible. But it is worth the trouble to get book value for the car and your legal fees back? As someone who believes cars can live forever, I hate saying this: just deal with it. Drive this Mazda until it falls apart.

In your driveway. Literally.

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  • Lug Nuts Lug Nuts on Jul 28, 2009

    One or two major problems, both very bad. The entire strut tower is rusting from underneath the paint and/or from the wheel well into the engine compartment. Looks downright dangerous, like the entire strut assembly could let go one of these days and pop up through the hood if it hits a big pothole. Are the fender liners installed? Regardless, I would get rid of the car ASAP and buy something different. It's not worth risking your life driving it. The rust damage and structural compromise underneath the paint is probably far worse than what's visible.

  • Escapenguin Escapenguin on Jul 28, 2009

    This isn't as bad as it looks, but it's still inexcusable. My '98 Prelude doesn't have any rust at this level... just on the aftermarket front fender. I would recommend that you raise a stink, as that's the only way any sort of recall will be issued. I mean, this is a structural component of the car-- pretty important. Do they want to pay now or when they get sued when cars are collapsing?

  • Kwik_Shift Hyunkia'sis doing what they do best...subverting expectations of quality.
  • MaintenanceCosts People who don't use the parking brake when they walk away from the car deserve to have the car roll into a river.
  • 3-On-The-Tree I’m sure they are good vehicles but you can’t base that on who is buying them. Land Rovers, Bentley’ are bought by Robin Leaches’s “The Rich and Famous” but they have terrible reliability.
  • SCE to AUX The fix sounds like a bandaid. Kia's not going to address the defective shaft assemblies because it's hard and expensive - not cool.
  • Analoggrotto I am sick and tired of every little Hyundai Kia Genesis flaw being blown out of proportion. Why doesn't TTAC talk about the Tundra iForce Max problems, Toyota V35A engine problems or the Lexus 500H Hybrid problems? Here's why: education. Most of America is illiterate, as are the people who bash Hyundai Kia Genesis. Surveys conducted by credible sources have observed a high concentration of Hyundai Kia Genesis models at elite ivy league universities, you know those places where students earn degrees which earn more than $100K per year? Get with the program TTAC.
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