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	<title>Comments on: Editorial: Opel Watch: Henderson: “We Are a Victim of Coicumstance!”  Fiat: “Andiamo!” Magna: “Jetzt reicht&#8217;s!”</title>
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		<title>By: shaker</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/opel-watch-henderson-%e2%80%9cwe-are-a-victim-of-coicumstance%e2%80%9d-fiat-%e2%80%9candiamo%e2%80%9d-magna-%e2%80%9cjetzt-reichts%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-1490505</link>
		<dc:creator>shaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 13:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prosecutor: &quot;...and drop the vernacular.&quot;
Curley: &quot;That&#039;s not a vernacular, that&#039;s a DOYBEE!&quot;.

Oh, thank you!</description>
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		<title>By: willman</title>
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		<dc:creator>willman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 16:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kind of sad but not surprising GM seems to be trying the same crap on Berlin they&#039;re doing here. &quot;Wait; did we say 10 Billion? -Well, that was before we found out, just now, that we&#039;ll need another 190 Billion. And probably after that, but not really sure, maybe; -another 50 Billion; and a 5-dollar foot long from Subway; everything on it.&quot;

--Can&#039;t we just have Jason Bourne assasinate Henderson, the unnamed staffer &amp; the other offending parties in room 645 of the Hotel Brecker?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Kind of sad but not surprising GM seems to be trying the same crap on Berlin they&#8217;re doing here. &#8220;Wait; did we say 10 Billion? -Well, that was before we found out, just now, that we&#8217;ll need another 190 Billion. And probably after that, but not really sure, maybe; -another 50 Billion; and a 5-dollar foot long from Subway; everything on it.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211;Can&#8217;t we just have Jason Bourne assasinate Henderson, the unnamed staffer &amp; the other offending parties in room 645 of the Hotel Brecker?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Smegley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smegley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 16:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The business world was a much better place when the German Parliament was primarily concerned with the &lt;em&gt;Rechtschreibgesetz&lt;/em&gt; and the US Congress was debating gallons per flush.  These are issues in which politicians have at least minimal competency.  They haven&#039;t a clue about business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The business world was a much better place when the German Parliament was primarily concerned with the <em>Rechtschreibgesetz</em> and the US Congress was debating gallons per flush.  These are issues in which politicians have at least minimal competency.  They haven&#8217;t a clue about business.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jerseydevil</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerseydevil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 15:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didnt read your no doubt inspired editorial yet, I just wanted to thank you for the Three Stooges clip.  I forgot how much I enjoy them!.</description>
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		<title>By: fincar1</title>
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		<dc:creator>fincar1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 15:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;How come we never get the name of this person or a description of their position? Are they career or political? What are their qualifications to be engaged in these negotiations?&quot;

What matters here, I think, is that a junior staffer was sent rather than someone higher up in the organization who had some ability to make decisions. Consider the 0bama administration&#039;s general treatment of allies of the U. S., and you&#039;ll see what I&#039;m getting at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&#8220;How come we never get the name of this person or a description of their position? Are they career or political? What are their qualifications to be engaged in these negotiations?&#8221;</p>
<p>What matters here, I think, is that a junior staffer was sent rather than someone higher up in the organization who had some ability to make decisions. Consider the 0bama administration&#8217;s general treatment of allies of the U. S., and you&#8217;ll see what I&#8217;m getting at.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Rod Panhard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod Panhard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 14:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Fiat is playing liar&#039;s poker. They know that even though they&#039;re putting nothing in the game, they&#039;re still the &quot;devil we know&quot; rather than the &quot;devil we don&#039;t know.&quot; 

2. &quot;Disorder in the Court&quot; remains one of the finer Stooge films. In an odd way, Curly shows he&#039;s smarter than everyone else. Much smarter. And in this case, Marchionne might be playing Curly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->1. Fiat is playing liar&#8217;s poker. They know that even though they&#8217;re putting nothing in the game, they&#8217;re still the &#8220;devil we know&#8221; rather than the &#8220;devil we don&#8217;t know.&#8221; </p>
<p>2. &#8220;Disorder in the Court&#8221; remains one of the finer Stooge films. In an odd way, Curly shows he&#8217;s smarter than everyone else. Much smarter. And in this case, Marchionne might be playing Curly.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Bertel Schmitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bertel Schmitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 13:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tsofting: Your command of the Teutonic language isn&#039;t lagging at all. Actually, it&#039;s one of the finer points of German orthography. Corrected.</description>
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		<title>By: GS650G</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/opel-watch-henderson-%e2%80%9cwe-are-a-victim-of-coicumstance%e2%80%9d-fiat-%e2%80%9candiamo%e2%80%9d-magna-%e2%80%9cjetzt-reichts%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-1490107</link>
		<dc:creator>GS650G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 13:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Opel is in a similar situation many laid off workers find themselves with no leverage and few options. It&#039;s a race to the bottom with few advocates for the target.

At the end of this month the bottom is falling out of GM. Opel will be another casualty of that.</description>
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<p>At the end of this month the bottom is falling out of GM. Opel will be another casualty of that.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: rpol35</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/opel-watch-henderson-%e2%80%9cwe-are-a-victim-of-coicumstance%e2%80%9d-fiat-%e2%80%9candiamo%e2%80%9d-magna-%e2%80%9cjetzt-reichts%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-1490100</link>
		<dc:creator>rpol35</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 12:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I&#039;m trying to think but nuthin&#039;s happenin&#039;&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&#8220;I&#8217;m trying to think but nuthin&#8217;s happenin&#8217;&#8221;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: tsofting</title>
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		<dc:creator>tsofting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 12:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bertel, just a linguistic nitpickery question; As &quot;Jetzt reichts&quot;, is a contraction of Jetzt reicht es, shouldn&#039;t you have an apostrophe between reicht and s, - &quot;jetzt reicht&#039;s&quot;?

Now, I know revisions have been made to the spelling of German, so maybe my command of the language is lagging behind the times...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Bertel, just a linguistic nitpickery question; As &#8220;Jetzt reichts&#8221;, is a contraction of Jetzt reicht es, shouldn&#8217;t you have an apostrophe between reicht and s, &#8211; &#8220;jetzt reicht&#8217;s&#8221;?</p>
<p>Now, I know revisions have been made to the spelling of German, so maybe my command of the language is lagging behind the times&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: OldandSlow</title>
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		<dc:creator>OldandSlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 12:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f82580d4-4c2e-11de-a6c5-00144feabdc0.html

It looks like GM throwing in a last minute 630 million dollar poison pill worked. FIAT is checking out.  

I wonder if Marchionne would have stuck with the Chrysler deal if the US government had insisted on a half billion dollar earnest payment. The Jeep brand alone would have been worth that much.</description>
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<p>It looks like GM throwing in a last minute 630 million dollar poison pill worked. FIAT is checking out.  </p>
<p>I wonder if Marchionne would have stuck with the Chrysler deal if the US government had insisted on a half billion dollar earnest payment. The Jeep brand alone would have been worth that much.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Juniper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juniper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 12:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bertel
Thankyou, now I know more about arrogance and I have more contempt.</description>
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Thankyou, now I know more about arrogance and I have more contempt.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: HerrKaLeun</title>
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		<dc:creator>HerrKaLeun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 12:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the US government can learn a lot from the German government. not that htye are perfect, but at least they negotiate BEFORE they give them any loans (if any). The Bush/Obama team gave them money and then started negotiating (about how much more will be wasted). Go figure! At least the Germans demand a kind of concept from the people that want the &quot;loans&quot;. 

Let them die, GM, Chrysler, Opel... if their technology is worth anything, VW, Toyota will buy it. If their employees are any good, VW/Toyota will hire them for their increased production. In case the employees are worthless (whiny UAW???) they don&#039;t deserve a well paying job anyway.. i assume the R&amp;D employees and patents will find a buyer if they are promising. So there is no loss to society. 

I would just tell GM/Opel: &quot;you need my billions by tomorrow and I&#039;m the only one who would give you any money, so you are in no position to demand anything. comply or die.&quot;. that&#039;s how it should work.</description>
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<p>Let them die, GM, Chrysler, Opel&#8230; if their technology is worth anything, VW, Toyota will buy it. If their employees are any good, VW/Toyota will hire them for their increased production. In case the employees are worthless (whiny UAW???) they don&#8217;t deserve a well paying job anyway.. i assume the R&amp;D employees and patents will find a buyer if they are promising. So there is no loss to society. </p>
<p>I would just tell GM/Opel: &#8220;you need my billions by tomorrow and I&#8217;m the only one who would give you any money, so you are in no position to demand anything. comply or die.&#8221;. that&#8217;s how it should work.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Bertel Schmitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bertel Schmitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 12:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Juniper: The operative word is not &quot;arrogance,&quot; it is &quot;contempt.&quot; Stupidity breeds contempt.

As for the poverty rate: If you want to be poor, then I recommend doing it in Germany. It&#039;s not worth making less than $3K a month while working. Welfare is the better and less stressful option.

200 kph in a Benz? Puhleeze, move over.

Morea: The staffer&#039;s identity is a well-kept secret. Probably better that way.

OldAndSlow: As for the obtuse accounting procedures, there are persistent rumors that they may not hold up to intense scrutiny by the German tax authorities. The &quot;patents&quot;  caper is a classic tax avoidance scheme. For everybody&#039;s edification, in Germany, bankruptcy always involves some sort of criminal investigation, simply because more often than not there are obtuse accounting  procedures before a filing.  As everybody from Chicago should recall, Al Capone was convicted on income tax evasion. I wouldn&#039;t insult a whole government if I had a collection of skeletons in my basement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Juniper: The operative word is not &#8220;arrogance,&#8221; it is &#8220;contempt.&#8221; Stupidity breeds contempt.</p>
<p>As for the poverty rate: If you want to be poor, then I recommend doing it in Germany. It&#8217;s not worth making less than $3K a month while working. Welfare is the better and less stressful option.</p>
<p>200 kph in a Benz? Puhleeze, move over.</p>
<p>Morea: The staffer&#8217;s identity is a well-kept secret. Probably better that way.</p>
<p>OldAndSlow: As for the obtuse accounting procedures, there are persistent rumors that they may not hold up to intense scrutiny by the German tax authorities. The &#8220;patents&#8221;  caper is a classic tax avoidance scheme. For everybody&#8217;s edification, in Germany, bankruptcy always involves some sort of criminal investigation, simply because more often than not there are obtuse accounting  procedures before a filing.  As everybody from Chicago should recall, Al Capone was convicted on income tax evasion. I wouldn&#8217;t insult a whole government if I had a collection of skeletons in my basement.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: OldandSlow</title>
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		<dc:creator>OldandSlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 11:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, Fritz Henderson is tending to a much greater avalanche on this side of the Atlantic. So, I doubt that he&#039;ll be traveling to Deutschland any time soon.

Second, a major component of GM&#039;s and much of corporate America&#039;s business model is broken - which is their accounting. Due to tax laws, cooking the books for Wall Street and keeping their real costs of doing business a mystery to labor, their accounting procedures are at best obtuse.  I&#039;d bet donuts to 10 dollar bills that not even Fritz Henderson has real numbers at his disposal. 

I&#039;m sure that German politicians are well aware that a guarantee of public financing to keep Adam Opel in business won&#039;t be the beginning of the end or the end of the beginning for that matter. Plus, there are a great number of other German businesses in the same boat, i.e. they are in need of bridge loans to get them through the Great Recession. American companies weren&#039;t alone in depending on cheap credit. Just ask Porsche.

The question that remains is will the Christian Democrats play a Margaret Thatcher card or an Obama role during the great unwinding?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->First, Fritz Henderson is tending to a much greater avalanche on this side of the Atlantic. So, I doubt that he&#8217;ll be traveling to Deutschland any time soon.</p>
<p>Second, a major component of GM&#8217;s and much of corporate America&#8217;s business model is broken &#8211; which is their accounting. Due to tax laws, cooking the books for Wall Street and keeping their real costs of doing business a mystery to labor, their accounting procedures are at best obtuse.  I&#8217;d bet donuts to 10 dollar bills that not even Fritz Henderson has real numbers at his disposal. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that German politicians are well aware that a guarantee of public financing to keep Adam Opel in business won&#8217;t be the beginning of the end or the end of the beginning for that matter. Plus, there are a great number of other German businesses in the same boat, i.e. they are in need of bridge loans to get them through the Great Recession. American companies weren&#8217;t alone in depending on cheap credit. Just ask Porsche.</p>
<p>The question that remains is will the Christian Democrats play a Margaret Thatcher card or an Obama role during the great unwinding?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Morea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 11:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;the junior Treasury staffer&lt;/em&gt;

How come we never get the name of this person or a description of their position?  Are they career or political?  What are their qualifications to be engaged in these negotiations?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>the junior Treasury staffer</em></p>
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		<title>By: Bertel Schmitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bertel Schmitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 11:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Currently, it doesn&#039;t cost them any votes, because they can blame it on the Amerikaner. The warring CDU and SPD, which currently sit in the same government, which comes up for election in fall, are in deep agreement about that. Never make two fighting dogs mad at you, they may just turn around and bite YOU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Currently, it doesn&#8217;t cost them any votes, because they can blame it on the Amerikaner. The warring CDU and SPD, which currently sit in the same government, which comes up for election in fall, are in deep agreement about that. Never make two fighting dogs mad at you, they may just turn around and bite YOU.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Juniper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juniper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 11:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If all the Germans have to offer is insults and arrogance screw it. Shut Opel down. Of course they may get another 50000 person riot in Berlin and add to the high poverty rate in Germany. But as long as they can drive their Benzes at 200 kph on the Autoban all is well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->If all the Germans have to offer is insults and arrogance screw it. Shut Opel down. Of course they may get another 50000 person riot in Berlin and add to the high poverty rate in Germany. But as long as they can drive their Benzes at 200 kph on the Autoban all is well.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Cammy Corrigan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cammy Corrigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 10:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And you thought GM&#039;s NA operations were a clusterNSFW?!

Personally, I hope it all goes belly up. I hope no buyer is found in Europe and GM file for bankruptcy in the United States. Why?

Because I&#039;m bored. Since the banking crisis has subsided and the UK&#039;s economy is gaining strength (yes, you read that right), I&#039;m getting bored. A massacre in the auto industry is just what I need. Naturally, I&#039;ll feel for rank and filers who lose their job, no-one wants that, but GM&#039;s management must be held accountable, no-one can disagree with that, surely?

Back to Europe. If shuttering Opel/Vauxhall is the cheaper option (and I&#039;m still not sold on the idea), then, why don&#039;t our German brothers and sisters do that? What&#039;s it going to cost them? 100,000 votes at the most? In an electorate of 40 million (roughly and that&#039;s a conservative estimate), that&#039;s got to be minor.

In the long term, it&#039;ll be better for the economy. It&#039;ll free up market share for Germany&#039;s stronger makers (mainly VW) and the rest of Europe to pick up.

Too many resources have been thrown at this issue. I wish it was a simple procedure for someone to buy Vauxhall/Opel, save all those jobs and carry on. But it isn&#039;t. And if it costs more money to keep Opel alive, than to close it, then you have to ask yourself:

What&#039;s the point of this exercise?</description>
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<p>Personally, I hope it all goes belly up. I hope no buyer is found in Europe and GM file for bankruptcy in the United States. Why?</p>
<p>Because I&#8217;m bored. Since the banking crisis has subsided and the UK&#8217;s economy is gaining strength (yes, you read that right), I&#8217;m getting bored. A massacre in the auto industry is just what I need. Naturally, I&#8217;ll feel for rank and filers who lose their job, no-one wants that, but GM&#8217;s management must be held accountable, no-one can disagree with that, surely?</p>
<p>Back to Europe. If shuttering Opel/Vauxhall is the cheaper option (and I&#8217;m still not sold on the idea), then, why don&#8217;t our German brothers and sisters do that? What&#8217;s it going to cost them? 100,000 votes at the most? In an electorate of 40 million (roughly and that&#8217;s a conservative estimate), that&#8217;s got to be minor.</p>
<p>In the long term, it&#8217;ll be better for the economy. It&#8217;ll free up market share for Germany&#8217;s stronger makers (mainly VW) and the rest of Europe to pick up.</p>
<p>Too many resources have been thrown at this issue. I wish it was a simple procedure for someone to buy Vauxhall/Opel, save all those jobs and carry on. But it isn&#8217;t. And if it costs more money to keep Opel alive, than to close it, then you have to ask yourself:</p>
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