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	<title>Comments on: Nissan Asks Dealers to Skip Detroit Auto Show</title>
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		<title>By: TaurusGT500</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/nissan-asks-dealers-to-skip-detroit-auto-show/comment-page-1/#comment-1133411</link>
		<dc:creator>TaurusGT500</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 13:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;psarhjinian :  OK, but why arm-twist the dealers there into not participating?    Control.&lt;/em&gt;


Big shows are really two shows.  The first is the corporate-reveal-new-model-media-dog-and-pony-shrimpfest.  Nissan and others made business decisions to pull out of Detroit ...fair enough.

The other show the public days where it&#039;s basically a huge showroom under one roof of &lt;strike&gt;all&lt;/strike&gt; most of the brands for sale in the US.

That&#039;s a week+ of the unwashed masses pawing the sheetmetal.  The corporate suits are long gone.  This is the dealer part of the show.

Psarhjinian nailed it in that the kibosh must be a corporate control thing.  (&quot;Ya know... our crazy dealers... you never know what they&#039;re going to do or say&quot;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>psarhjinian :  OK, but why arm-twist the dealers there into not participating?    Control.</em></p>
<p>Big shows are really two shows.  The first is the corporate-reveal-new-model-media-dog-and-pony-shrimpfest.  Nissan and others made business decisions to pull out of Detroit &#8230;fair enough.</p>
<p>The other show the public days where it&#8217;s basically a huge showroom under one roof of <strike>all</strike> most of the brands for sale in the US.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a week+ of the unwashed masses pawing the sheetmetal.  The corporate suits are long gone.  This is the dealer part of the show.</p>
<p>Psarhjinian nailed it in that the kibosh must be a corporate control thing.  (&#8220;Ya know&#8230; our crazy dealers&#8230; you never know what they&#8217;re going to do or say&#8221;.)<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: psarhjinian</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/nissan-asks-dealers-to-skip-detroit-auto-show/comment-page-1/#comment-1133292</link>
		<dc:creator>psarhjinian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 12:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;OK, but why arm-twist the dealers there into not participating? &lt;/em&gt;

Control.  

The Chicago operation will have corporate involvement, the Detroit one would not.  Nissan doesn&#039;t want a Nissan-branded, but not Nissan-run, presence at Detroit, and since they won&#039;t spend the money, they won&#039;t get a say.</description>
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<p>Control.  </p>
<p>The Chicago operation will have corporate involvement, the Detroit one would not.  Nissan doesn&#8217;t want a Nissan-branded, but not Nissan-run, presence at Detroit, and since they won&#8217;t spend the money, they won&#8217;t get a say.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Viceroy_Fizzlebottom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Viceroy_Fizzlebottom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 06:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just glad Nissan decided to stay in the Chicago Auto Show.  I would&#039;ve been very disappointed not being able to see the new Z in person this year</description>
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		<title>By: Ronnie Schreiber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronnie Schreiber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 06:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are a few things in play here. Chicago has always been focused on selling cars and I&#039;m pretty sure that the dealer reps at the show during the public days can take orders for cars. So in Chicago, it really hurts not to display. In Detroit, at least for the time being, DADA, the show organizers doesn&#039;t allow anything to be sold retail on the show floor, not even t-shirts, certainly not cars. This may change because Cobo may get status as a sales tax free zone but meanwhile there&#039;s less downside to not displaying in Detroit. 

Another factor is that the car companies are going to show off how coarse their hair shirts are. They&#039;re terrified of news articles about wining and dining reporters or any perceived extravagance at the NAIAS. NAIAS is still the 800 lb gorilla of North American car shows. This year there are 5500 journalists in Detroit. Chicago might get 1/4 of that. So Detroit&#039;s under a microscope. I think Nissan alluded to all this with “the current economic conditions will impact the shows’ marketing effectiveness.” In other words, show attendees and media will see the display as a waste of money.

Maybe we&#039;ve reached the point where any advertising and promotion by car companies has some kind of backlash. A brave new world where traditional marketing is no longer effective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->There are a few things in play here. Chicago has always been focused on selling cars and I&#8217;m pretty sure that the dealer reps at the show during the public days can take orders for cars. So in Chicago, it really hurts not to display. In Detroit, at least for the time being, DADA, the show organizers doesn&#8217;t allow anything to be sold retail on the show floor, not even t-shirts, certainly not cars. This may change because Cobo may get status as a sales tax free zone but meanwhile there&#8217;s less downside to not displaying in Detroit. </p>
<p>Another factor is that the car companies are going to show off how coarse their hair shirts are. They&#8217;re terrified of news articles about wining and dining reporters or any perceived extravagance at the NAIAS. NAIAS is still the 800 lb gorilla of North American car shows. This year there are 5500 journalists in Detroit. Chicago might get 1/4 of that. So Detroit&#8217;s under a microscope. I think Nissan alluded to all this with “the current economic conditions will impact the shows’ marketing effectiveness.” In other words, show attendees and media will see the display as a waste of money.</p>
<p>Maybe we&#8217;ve reached the point where any advertising and promotion by car companies has some kind of backlash. A brave new world where traditional marketing is no longer effective.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: John Horner</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Horner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 03:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Michigan is just not a big market for Nissan.&quot;

OK, but why arm-twist the dealers there into not participating?  I understand Nissan proper skipping Detroit, but telling their supposedly independent dealers not to ... what gives?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&#8220;Michigan is just not a big market for Nissan.&#8221;</p>
<p>OK, but why arm-twist the dealers there into not participating?  I understand Nissan proper skipping Detroit, but telling their supposedly independent dealers not to &#8230; what gives?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: truthbetold37</title>
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		<dc:creator>truthbetold37</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 02:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michigan is just not a big market for Nissan.  California and Tennessee (obviously) are the biggest US markets.

The Detroit show doesn&#039;t give the bang for the buck that Chicago would.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Michigan is just not a big market for Nissan.  California and Tennessee (obviously) are the biggest US markets.</p>
<p>The Detroit show doesn&#8217;t give the bang for the buck that Chicago would.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: bleach</title>
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		<dc:creator>bleach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 01:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the Chicago show has been more of a giant showroom gallery than an auto show with new product reveals and concept car spectacles.</description>
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