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	<title>Comments on: New Nissan 370Z. Finally. Again. Still.</title>
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		<title>By: bts</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-nissan-370z-finally-again-still/comment-page-1/#comment-971141</link>
		<dc:creator>bts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote: the duke

&lt;em&gt;Second, look at what Nissan has done with the VQ V-6 and compare:

2009 Z: 3.7L V-6, 332hp (EPA 17/26 w/6MT)*
2010 Mustang: 4.0L V-6, 210hp (EPA 17/26 w/ 5MT)
2010 Mustang: 4.6L V-8, 315hp (EPA: 15/23 w/ 5MT)
2010 Camaro: 3.6L V-6, 300hp (EPA highway 26)**&lt;/em&gt;

You fail to mention the Z requires premium fuel while the Mustang and Camaro use regular to make the power shown.

&lt;em&gt;The Z’s motor does not use direct injection (as does the Camaro) - but it does have variable valve lift - and still has a higher specific output while achieving essentially the same (if not better) fuel economy.
The mustang numbers speak (quite poorly) for themselves).&lt;/em&gt;

The Camaro&#039;s engine wasn&#039;t designed for premium fuel.  Had it been I would expect higher numbers.  While I admit the current Mustang&#039;s numbers aren&#039;t great, the future 3.5 v6 Ecoboost will have some great figures.  

&lt;em&gt;This car is everything the 2010 Mustang and Camaro are not.&lt;/em&gt;

You are absolutely right.  The Z is missing 2 usable rear seats and a good sized trunk.  If fuel economy is your big issue you just answered your own question.  The Z really isn&#039;t special.  The Corvette on the other hand is with it&#039;s lower weight, 104 more hp, 16 mpg city/26 highway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Quote: the duke</p>
<p><em>Second, look at what Nissan has done with the VQ V-6 and compare:</p>
<p>2009 Z: 3.7L V-6, 332hp (EPA 17/26 w/6MT)*<br />
2010 Mustang: 4.0L V-6, 210hp (EPA 17/26 w/ 5MT)<br />
2010 Mustang: 4.6L V-8, 315hp (EPA: 15/23 w/ 5MT)<br />
2010 Camaro: 3.6L V-6, 300hp (EPA highway 26)**</em></p>
<p>You fail to mention the Z requires premium fuel while the Mustang and Camaro use regular to make the power shown.</p>
<p><em>The Z’s motor does not use direct injection (as does the Camaro) &#8211; but it does have variable valve lift &#8211; and still has a higher specific output while achieving essentially the same (if not better) fuel economy.<br />
The mustang numbers speak (quite poorly) for themselves).</em></p>
<p>The Camaro&#8217;s engine wasn&#8217;t designed for premium fuel.  Had it been I would expect higher numbers.  While I admit the current Mustang&#8217;s numbers aren&#8217;t great, the future 3.5 v6 Ecoboost will have some great figures.  </p>
<p><em>This car is everything the 2010 Mustang and Camaro are not.</em></p>
<p>You are absolutely right.  The Z is missing 2 usable rear seats and a good sized trunk.  If fuel economy is your big issue you just answered your own question.  The Z really isn&#8217;t special.  The Corvette on the other hand is with it&#8217;s lower weight, 104 more hp, 16 mpg city/26 highway.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Sabastian</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-nissan-370z-finally-again-still/comment-page-1/#comment-969082</link>
		<dc:creator>Sabastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully they&#039;ve learned to make it sound good on the inside as well as the outside.</description>
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		<title>By: bts</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-nissan-370z-finally-again-still/comment-page-1/#comment-967912</link>
		<dc:creator>bts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe now the new Z will finally be able to outrun the old Z.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrO-Phu3Hbw</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Maybe now the new Z will finally be able to outrun the old Z.  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrO-Phu3Hbw" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrO-Phu3Hbw</a><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Dr Lemming</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-nissan-370z-finally-again-still/comment-page-1/#comment-967732</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Lemming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 05:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, let me look again.  Yup, still looks ugly even in silver.

Too bad.  Nissan was had a good run of nicely designed cars that for a brief, shining moment defied the Banglization of the industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Wait, let me look again.  Yup, still looks ugly even in silver.</p>
<p>Too bad.  Nissan was had a good run of nicely designed cars that for a brief, shining moment defied the Banglization of the industry.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Steve Green</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-nissan-370z-finally-again-still/comment-page-1/#comment-967612</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 05:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s the first car I ever wanted to lick.

I mean, that Cindy Crawford hadn&#039;t just sat in.</description>
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<p>I mean, that Cindy Crawford hadn&#8217;t just sat in.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: pariah</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-nissan-370z-finally-again-still/comment-page-1/#comment-967442</link>
		<dc:creator>pariah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 04:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New Nissan Z car is fkin sexy. Finally. Again. Still.

I liked the new design of this Z except for the headlights and taillights. But that all changed when I finally saw one of the new Maximas in real life (yeah it took me a long time). What I found was that while, in pictures, the headlights stuck out as an eyesore, in-person they were much less sore-thumbish and actually accentuated the overall form of the vehicle pretty well. So I&#039;m not worried about this car. I predict that when I see a 370Z in real life it will drop my jaw like I&#039;m hoping it will. Kudos to Nissan for trying something new aesthetically and making it work. My only real beef with the car is the door handle design -- right design, right position, just make them less prominent and obstructive of flow. When I look at the car, I don&#039;t want my focus to land on the door handles. I think it was just a poor decision artistically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->New Nissan Z car is fkin sexy. Finally. Again. Still.</p>
<p>I liked the new design of this Z except for the headlights and taillights. But that all changed when I finally saw one of the new Maximas in real life (yeah it took me a long time). What I found was that while, in pictures, the headlights stuck out as an eyesore, in-person they were much less sore-thumbish and actually accentuated the overall form of the vehicle pretty well. So I&#8217;m not worried about this car. I predict that when I see a 370Z in real life it will drop my jaw like I&#8217;m hoping it will. Kudos to Nissan for trying something new aesthetically and making it work. My only real beef with the car is the door handle design &#8212; right design, right position, just make them less prominent and obstructive of flow. When I look at the car, I don&#8217;t want my focus to land on the door handles. I think it was just a poor decision artistically.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: psarhjinian</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-nissan-370z-finally-again-still/comment-page-1/#comment-967252</link>
		<dc:creator>psarhjinian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 03:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Companies like Nissan can squirt these remarkable things out every few years, while GM creates corporate hemorrhoids while straining to shit a Volt.
&lt;/em&gt;
Damn, that was funny.  Not entirely truthful (given the blown Solstice/Sky) but still got a snort out of me and stares from others in the room.  Serves me for reading TTAC on my BlackBerry in Starbucks.

That said, this is an awfully nice-looking car.  Mazda has their work cut out for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>Companies like Nissan can squirt these remarkable things out every few years, while GM creates corporate hemorrhoids while straining to shit a Volt.<br />
</em><br />
Damn, that was funny.  Not entirely truthful (given the blown Solstice/Sky) but still got a snort out of me and stares from others in the room.  Serves me for reading TTAC on my BlackBerry in Starbucks.</p>
<p>That said, this is an awfully nice-looking car.  Mazda has their work cut out for them.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: rpn453</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-nissan-370z-finally-again-still/comment-page-1/#comment-966961</link>
		<dc:creator>rpn453</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 02:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The rev-matching &quot;feature&quot; sounds complicated and unnecessary, unless they&#039;re only rev matching the engine and not the transmission.  If that&#039;s the case, it just sounds really, really unnecessary.  I haven&#039;t rev-matched only the engine on a downshift since I first learned how to double clutch.

Good looking car, other than the headlights and tail lights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The rev-matching &#8220;feature&#8221; sounds complicated and unnecessary, unless they&#8217;re only rev matching the engine and not the transmission.  If that&#8217;s the case, it just sounds really, really unnecessary.  I haven&#8217;t rev-matched only the engine on a downshift since I first learned how to double clutch.</p>
<p>Good looking car, other than the headlights and tail lights.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Puthuff</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-nissan-370z-finally-again-still/comment-page-1/#comment-966951</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Puthuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 02:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me likey except for those stupid door handles.</description>
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		<title>By: Mark MacInnis</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-nissan-370z-finally-again-still/comment-page-1/#comment-966882</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark MacInnis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 02:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drop.  Dead.  Gorgeous.  

Juxtaposing the release of this vehicle against the testimony of the Gang of Four on capital hill....just says it all....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Drop.  Dead.  Gorgeous.  </p>
<p>Juxtaposing the release of this vehicle against the testimony of the Gang of Four on capital hill&#8230;.just says it all&#8230;.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Kman</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-nissan-370z-finally-again-still/comment-page-1/#comment-966742</link>
		<dc:creator>Kman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 00:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is one beautiful automobile. 

I wasn&#039;t sure of Nissan&#039;s new design direction when I saw pics of the new Maxima, but seeing that car &quot;in the metal&quot; -- and now pics of this Z -- it&#039;s a good design direction.

Gorgeous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->That is one beautiful automobile. </p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t sure of Nissan&#8217;s new design direction when I saw pics of the new Maxima, but seeing that car &#8220;in the metal&#8221; &#8212; and now pics of this Z &#8212; it&#8217;s a good design direction.</p>
<p>Gorgeous.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: the duke</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-nissan-370z-finally-again-still/comment-page-1/#comment-966701</link>
		<dc:creator>the duke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 00:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ignoring the looks (which I personally like), I can only admire what Nissan has done with this new Z compared to the last:

1. Significantly dropped weight
2. Decreased wheelbase, for the above and nimbler handling
3. Decreased overall length
4. Lowered overall height
5. Increased track (better road holding)
6. Increased power
7. Kept price essentially the same

Items 5 and 6 are common for all &quot;new models&quot; these days, but when was the last time you saw a manufacturer do any (let alone all!) of the others?

I have to give Nissan props for fixing all the major criticisms of the old car, namely size and weight.  By the time I&#039;m done with grad school in 5 years I should be able to pick one up used for 15k, which will make for a superb performance bargain.

Two side notes:  The rev-match manual is only the sport model, which I&#039;d avoid anyway just because I like base-model cars.

Second, look at what Nissan has done with the VQ V-6 and compare:

2009 Z: 3.7L V-6, 332hp (EPA 17/26 w/6MT)*
2010 Mustang: 4.0L V-6, 210hp (EPA 17/26 w/ 5MT)
2010 Mustang: 4.6L V-8, 315hp (EPA: 15/23 w/ 5MT) 
2010 Camaro: 3.6L V-6, 300hp  (EPA highway 26)**

*Based on the G37 coupe, the Z should be higher as it weighs less and is more aerodynamic
**Off of Chevy&#039;s web site, not an official figure and based off a 6-speed auto, not the manual. Manual will probably be lower.

The Z&#039;s motor does not use direct injection (as does the Camaro) - but it does have variable valve lift - and still has a higher specific output while achieving essentially the same (if not better) fuel economy.
The mustang numbers speak (quite poorly) for themselves).

This car is everything the 2010 Mustang and Camaro are not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Ignoring the looks (which I personally like), I can only admire what Nissan has done with this new Z compared to the last:</p>
<p>1. Significantly dropped weight<br />
2. Decreased wheelbase, for the above and nimbler handling<br />
3. Decreased overall length<br />
4. Lowered overall height<br />
5. Increased track (better road holding)<br />
6. Increased power<br />
7. Kept price essentially the same</p>
<p>Items 5 and 6 are common for all &#8220;new models&#8221; these days, but when was the last time you saw a manufacturer do any (let alone all!) of the others?</p>
<p>I have to give Nissan props for fixing all the major criticisms of the old car, namely size and weight.  By the time I&#8217;m done with grad school in 5 years I should be able to pick one up used for 15k, which will make for a superb performance bargain.</p>
<p>Two side notes:  The rev-match manual is only the sport model, which I&#8217;d avoid anyway just because I like base-model cars.</p>
<p>Second, look at what Nissan has done with the VQ V-6 and compare:</p>
<p>2009 Z: 3.7L V-6, 332hp (EPA 17/26 w/6MT)*<br />
2010 Mustang: 4.0L V-6, 210hp (EPA 17/26 w/ 5MT)<br />
2010 Mustang: 4.6L V-8, 315hp (EPA: 15/23 w/ 5MT)<br />
2010 Camaro: 3.6L V-6, 300hp  (EPA highway 26)**</p>
<p>*Based on the G37 coupe, the Z should be higher as it weighs less and is more aerodynamic<br />
**Off of Chevy&#8217;s web site, not an official figure and based off a 6-speed auto, not the manual. Manual will probably be lower.</p>
<p>The Z&#8217;s motor does not use direct injection (as does the Camaro) &#8211; but it does have variable valve lift &#8211; and still has a higher specific output while achieving essentially the same (if not better) fuel economy.<br />
The mustang numbers speak (quite poorly) for themselves).</p>
<p>This car is everything the 2010 Mustang and Camaro are not.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: quasimondo</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-nissan-370z-finally-again-still/comment-page-1/#comment-966601</link>
		<dc:creator>quasimondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No matter how many times you guys throw this car up here, it&#039;s not going to make me change my opinion of this car, which is that it&#039;s ugly as sin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->No matter how many times you guys throw this car up here, it&#8217;s not going to make me change my opinion of this car, which is that it&#8217;s ugly as sin.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Stephan Wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-nissan-370z-finally-again-still/comment-page-1/#comment-966582</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephan Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I prefer to watch how smoothly a driver performs the one-two upshift, a much-maligned skill.

A $30,000 Porsche is a symbol of what&#039;s so wrong with Detroit.  Companies like Nissan can squirt these remarkable things out every few years, while GM creates corporate hemorrhoids while straining to shit a Volt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Actually, I prefer to watch how smoothly a driver performs the one-two upshift, a much-maligned skill.</p>
<p>A $30,000 Porsche is a symbol of what&#8217;s so wrong with Detroit.  Companies like Nissan can squirt these remarkable things out every few years, while GM creates corporate hemorrhoids while straining to shit a Volt.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: JEC</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-nissan-370z-finally-again-still/comment-page-1/#comment-966411</link>
		<dc:creator>JEC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mean now I can&#039;t listen for heel-toe blipping to know if the driver is any good? It does it for them? What&#039;s next, radar/GPS guided automatic brake and throttle like a video game so neanderthal drivers can fly through the corners without pitching themselves into the weeds and fulfilling Darwin&#039;s master plan? Bah!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->You mean now I can&#8217;t listen for heel-toe blipping to know if the driver is any good? It does it for them? What&#8217;s next, radar/GPS guided automatic brake and throttle like a video game so neanderthal drivers can fly through the corners without pitching themselves into the weeds and fulfilling Darwin&#8217;s master plan? Bah!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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