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		<title>By: guyincognito</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-ford-focus-rs-want-one/comment-page-1/#comment-998201</link>
		<dc:creator>guyincognito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ford to Americans, *uck you!</description>
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		<title>By: zintradi</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-ford-focus-rs-want-one/comment-page-1/#comment-998131</link>
		<dc:creator>zintradi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what I like about these little cars with all this horsepower is that you have it when you want it, and then while you&#039;re commuting and take it easy on the gas, you can still get upwards of 30 mpg... Something you can&#039;t do with a challenger or mustang.</description>
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		<title>By: Mark MacInnis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark MacInnis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My two cents worth:  (I was looking for the &quot;cents&quot; sign on my laptop keyboard, not there....sometimes I miss a selectric, but I degress...)

Not sure that selling a near-300hp rocket like this at a premium price is a bad thing.  It would help ensure that whips like this are accessible only to those who understand and appreciate their potential....both to thrill and to kill.  Don&#039;t know about y&#039;all, but being on the road near one of these piloted by a 17-year-old with raging hormones with buddies in the back seat urging him to &quot;get to the party faster, man&quot;, well that would tend to give me a case of the hee bee ma-jee-bees.  Torque steer is a bitch when you aren&#039;t experienced enough to handle it.  And torgue steer at this level of power....?

Also, my opinion concerning horsepower and torque is a bit like my opinion about breast size....beyond a certain point, be it cup size and the third letter of the alphabet, or horsepower and a three-digit number in the low to mid 200&#039;s, is usually wasted.  Not to mention over-priced and high-maintenance.  In both instances.  Can&#039;t under-endowed gear heads find more practical ways to compensate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->My two cents worth:  (I was looking for the &#8220;cents&#8221; sign on my laptop keyboard, not there&#8230;.sometimes I miss a selectric, but I degress&#8230;)</p>
<p>Not sure that selling a near-300hp rocket like this at a premium price is a bad thing.  It would help ensure that whips like this are accessible only to those who understand and appreciate their potential&#8230;.both to thrill and to kill.  Don&#8217;t know about y&#8217;all, but being on the road near one of these piloted by a 17-year-old with raging hormones with buddies in the back seat urging him to &#8220;get to the party faster, man&#8221;, well that would tend to give me a case of the hee bee ma-jee-bees.  Torque steer is a bitch when you aren&#8217;t experienced enough to handle it.  And torgue steer at this level of power&#8230;.?</p>
<p>Also, my opinion concerning horsepower and torque is a bit like my opinion about breast size&#8230;.beyond a certain point, be it cup size and the third letter of the alphabet, or horsepower and a three-digit number in the low to mid 200&#8217;s, is usually wasted.  Not to mention over-priced and high-maintenance.  In both instances.  Can&#8217;t under-endowed gear heads find more practical ways to compensate?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Stu Sidoti</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-ford-focus-rs-want-one/comment-page-1/#comment-997741</link>
		<dc:creator>Stu Sidoti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote from B.C. :&lt;em&gt; Stu Sidoti: Don’t forget about taxes and stuff. Things generally cost a lot more in Europe than they do here in the US, particularly cars. (For a more concrete example, see how much BMW charges for similarly equipped cars on each side of the Atlantic.)&lt;/em&gt;

Once again kids, seemingly no one can accurately tell me the &#039;real price&#039; of any car sold in both markets...yes B.C. you are right...cars cost more in Europe-WHY?...many posts ago, we&#039;ve gone over the price of a nearly identical VW Golf/Rabbit that sells over there and over here for a $15,000 price difference yet no one can accurately tell me why? Taxes? CO2 Charge? Okay, but does that justify a 40% price hike for the same product such as your aforementioned BMWs? You Europeans should revolt-you&#039;re getting ripped-off...or simply buy your cars here and ship them home.

All I need to know is that Fran will sell me a bad-ass, very realistic GT-40 replica for about the same price as a....Focus and no matter what you do to it, it&#039;s a Focus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Quote from B.C. :<em> Stu Sidoti: Don’t forget about taxes and stuff. Things generally cost a lot more in Europe than they do here in the US, particularly cars. (For a more concrete example, see how much BMW charges for similarly equipped cars on each side of the Atlantic.)</em></p>
<p>Once again kids, seemingly no one can accurately tell me the &#8216;real price&#8217; of any car sold in both markets&#8230;yes B.C. you are right&#8230;cars cost more in Europe-WHY?&#8230;many posts ago, we&#8217;ve gone over the price of a nearly identical VW Golf/Rabbit that sells over there and over here for a $15,000 price difference yet no one can accurately tell me why? Taxes? CO2 Charge? Okay, but does that justify a 40% price hike for the same product such as your aforementioned BMWs? You Europeans should revolt-you&#8217;re getting ripped-off&#8230;or simply buy your cars here and ship them home.</p>
<p>All I need to know is that Fran will sell me a bad-ass, very realistic GT-40 replica for about the same price as a&#8230;.Focus and no matter what you do to it, it&#8217;s a Focus.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Samir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they sold a $42,000 performance-oriented car in the US, it should be a Mustang with IRS. The Focus RS is way too Euro.</description>
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		<title>By: Robert Farago</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Farago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt; cleek : &lt;/em&gt;

Doh! Text amended.</description>
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		<title>By: B.C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>B.C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Airhen: he did say enthusiasts, not grandmas.  See you in my rearview mirror. :-)

Stu Sidoti: Don&#039;t forget about taxes and stuff. Things generally cost a lot more in Europe than they do here in the US, particularly cars.  (For a more concrete example, see how much BMW charges for similarly equipped cars on each side of the Atlantic.)</description>
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<p>Stu Sidoti: Don&#8217;t forget about taxes and stuff. Things generally cost a lot more in Europe than they do here in the US, particularly cars.  (For a more concrete example, see how much BMW charges for similarly equipped cars on each side of the Atlantic.)<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Stu Sidoti</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-ford-focus-rs-want-one/comment-page-1/#comment-997582</link>
		<dc:creator>Stu Sidoti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>33,000 Euros &lt;em&gt;(assuming you meant Euros in Austria not British Pounds, but we know it&#039;s an old habit, eh Robert?)&lt;/em&gt; would translate into about $42,000...Really?!?! $42,000?!? Uh-huh.

For that kind of coin, I would keep my GTI and order a GT-40 replica from Fran Hall of Race-Car-Replicas in Fraser, MI and have a very nice high performance Ford instead of another hot-hatch. He can build you an aluminum chassis-ed GT-40 replica for around the same money. Sorry for not providing a direct link, their site needs more bandwidth.

This is the closest thing I can get for a link...a shop tour by of all mags Kit Car magazine, but Fran&#039;s work is NO fakey Fiero-Lambo by any means. Take a look...

http://www.kitcarmag.com/featuredvehicles/0607kc_race_car_replicas_shop_tour/index.html

You can keep the $42,000 Focus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->33,000 Euros <em>(assuming you meant Euros in Austria not British Pounds, but we know it&#8217;s an old habit, eh Robert?)</em> would translate into about $42,000&#8230;Really?!?! $42,000?!? Uh-huh.</p>
<p>For that kind of coin, I would keep my GTI and order a GT-40 replica from Fran Hall of Race-Car-Replicas in Fraser, MI and have a very nice high performance Ford instead of another hot-hatch. He can build you an aluminum chassis-ed GT-40 replica for around the same money. Sorry for not providing a direct link, their site needs more bandwidth.</p>
<p>This is the closest thing I can get for a link&#8230;a shop tour by of all mags Kit Car magazine, but Fran&#8217;s work is NO fakey Fiero-Lambo by any means. Take a look&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kitcarmag.com/featuredvehicles/0607kc_race_car_replicas_shop_tour/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.kitcarmag.com/featuredvehicles/0607kc_race_car_replicas_shop_tour/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: cleek</title>
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		<dc:creator>cleek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SVO=SVT?</description>
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		<title>By: Pig_Iron</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-ford-focus-rs-want-one/comment-page-1/#comment-997542</link>
		<dc:creator>Pig_Iron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.not2fast.com/chassis/revoKnuckle.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ford RevoKnuckle slide presentation here.&lt;/a&gt;

Check out the difference in caster.

This design looks oddly familiar. Oh yeah, scroll down to live axle shot here:
http://forums.focaljet.com/suspension/585922-future-fwd-performance-revo-knuckle.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><a href="http://www.not2fast.com/chassis/revoKnuckle.pdf" rel="nofollow">Ford RevoKnuckle slide presentation here.</a></p>
<p>Check out the difference in caster.</p>
<p>This design looks oddly familiar. Oh yeah, scroll down to live axle shot here:<br />
<a href="http://forums.focaljet.com/suspension/585922-future-fwd-performance-revo-knuckle.html" rel="nofollow">http://forums.focaljet.com/suspension/585922-future-fwd-performance-revo-knuckle.html</a><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: NICKNICK</title>
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		<dc:creator>NICKNICK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I&#039;d rather see the Festiva RS for cheap thrills.

As for 300hp, that sounds fine to me.  It&#039;ll be no more useless than a 100hp FWD car off the line (they all suck), but it&#039;ll be a hoot from 50-100mph, which is where i really want power anyway.  My GTI doesn&#039;t pull very hard past 90, and if you wanna play in the hundreds, you&#039;d better have lots and lots of clear road.</description>
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<p>As for 300hp, that sounds fine to me.  It&#8217;ll be no more useless than a 100hp FWD car off the line (they all suck), but it&#8217;ll be a hoot from 50-100mph, which is where i really want power anyway.  My GTI doesn&#8217;t pull very hard past 90, and if you wanna play in the hundreds, you&#8217;d better have lots and lots of clear road.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: timd38</title>
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		<dc:creator>timd38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would Ford want to sell it the US? Someone may want to buy it.</description>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is an economy car? My idea of an economy car is like the &#039;09 Civic Coupe five-speed (w/34 mpg) I recently bought as a new DD. The salesman tried to talk me into upgrading to a Civic Si, but I told him that would defeat the reason for buying a small car. If I were to buy something like a Focus RS with that horsepower, personally I&#039;d want something bigger and cooler like a rear-wheel drive Challenger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->That is an economy car? My idea of an economy car is like the &#8216;09 Civic Coupe five-speed (w/34 mpg) I recently bought as a new DD. The salesman tried to talk me into upgrading to a Civic Si, but I told him that would defeat the reason for buying a small car. If I were to buy something like a Focus RS with that horsepower, personally I&#8217;d want something bigger and cooler like a rear-wheel drive Challenger.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: SherbornSean</title>
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		<dc:creator>SherbornSean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;RevoKnuckle&quot;?  Really?

I am not clear on the logic of bringing this car to the US.  The best hope it has is of steeling sales from the MS3.   How is that good?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&#8220;RevoKnuckle&#8221;?  Really?</p>
<p>I am not clear on the logic of bringing this car to the US.  The best hope it has is of steeling sales from the MS3.   How is that good?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: AKM</title>
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		<dc:creator>AKM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;at £33k in Austria&lt;/em&gt;

I assume you means euros, not pounds. 
With almost 300hp, wouldn&#039;t it be time to move to AWD instead of FWD?</description>
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<p>I assume you means euros, not pounds.<br />
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