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	<title>Comments on: New Camaro&#8217;s Interior is Hideous</title>
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		<title>By: SexCpotatoes</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-camaros-interior-is-hideous/comment-page-2/#comment-96836</link>
		<dc:creator>SexCpotatoes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 07:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s obvious that the steering wheel is a new safety feature that makes airbags obsolete!  You have your extra padded steering wheel that, in the event of a smash-up, tilts down to cushion the most vulnerable part of your body;  your beer gut.

The center console is what you get when you let Johnny 5:  
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&amp;q=Johnny+5&amp;btnG=Search+Images&amp;gbv=2

mate with a GigaTube:
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->It&#8217;s obvious that the steering wheel is a new safety feature that makes airbags obsolete!  You have your extra padded steering wheel that, in the event of a smash-up, tilts down to cushion the most vulnerable part of your body;  your beer gut.</p>
<p>The center console is what you get when you let Johnny 5:<br />
<a href="http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&amp;q=Johnny+5&amp;btnG=Search+Images&amp;gbv=2" rel="nofollow">http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&amp;q=Johnny+5&amp;btnG=Search+Images&amp;gbv=2</a></p>
<p>mate with a GigaTube:<br />
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		<title>By: Orian</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-camaros-interior-is-hideous/comment-page-2/#comment-96709</link>
		<dc:creator>Orian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 18:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking over the images of at Autoblog, about the only thing that can change between this and the final version is the display above the radio.

Test mules are in final form with the exception of very minor details - it does no good to change a huge piece of the car if it hasn&#039;t been put through the grind. The molds are already cast by the manufacturer - they aren&#039;t going to retool the entire dash board and gauges between this and when the car goes on sale unless the public outcry is enough that they realize they need to change it. 

I&#039;d be surprised (in a good way) if they changed it from what you see now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Looking over the images of at Autoblog, about the only thing that can change between this and the final version is the display above the radio.</p>
<p>Test mules are in final form with the exception of very minor details &#8211; it does no good to change a huge piece of the car if it hasn&#8217;t been put through the grind. The molds are already cast by the manufacturer &#8211; they aren&#8217;t going to retool the entire dash board and gauges between this and when the car goes on sale unless the public outcry is enough that they realize they need to change it. </p>
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		<title>By: geeber</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-camaros-interior-is-hideous/comment-page-2/#comment-96670</link>
		<dc:creator>geeber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 16:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;KixStart: I suspect the failure of the modern, very muscular, GTO foreshadows trouble moving the new Camaro. Yeah, it’s not quite the same but retro is only going to carry you so far.&lt;/i&gt;

The revived GTO looked like a Cavalier on steroids, was sold by Pontiac dealers and received virtually no advertising support. 

People buying this sort of car want distinctive style, and the Camaro gives it to them. 

&lt;i&gt;KixStart: For $39K, you can still get the real thing, in very good condition, if you so desire. $30K for a modern knock-off?&lt;/i&gt;

The &quot;real thing&quot; gets terrible gas mileage (in the single digits for the high-performance models), rides like a buckboard, makes a Camry look like a Ferrari in the ride-and-handling department and has safety equipment that consists of lap belts, a padded dashboard, a collapsible steering column and a laminated windshield.

The lack of safety equipment is especially important. There are quite a few people reluctant to use old cars on a regular basis because of the lack of today&#039;s safety features.  

&lt;i&gt;KixStart: How many Skystices got sold this year? Something like 2K? How many SSRs were bought?&lt;/i&gt;

The Skystices are hampered by the fact there is a better alternative available in this class - the Mazda Miata. The Camaro&#039;s competition is the Mustang, and, while I like that car, I&#039;m willing to bet that this Camaro will be fully competitive. 

The SSR was a combination pickup truck, sports car and convertible that couldn&#039;t haul much, didn&#039;t offer great performance and was too expensive. Not a winning combination...

&lt;i&gt;KixStart: Sure, the new Camaro is a little more versatile (I presume it will have a back seat) but it’s still a muscle car in an increasingly Camcord world.&lt;/i&gt;

Actually, this helps the Camaro, because once a class of vehicle becomes very popular, people begin to want alternatives. Just as not everyone wanted an Impala or Galaxie in the 1960s, today not everyone wants a Camry or Accord (and GM has the new, much-improved Malibu to compete in this class). 

Detroit&#039;s problem has been to view the vehicles like the Camaro as saviors. The Camaro won&#039;t save the company, but it gives Chevrolet something different to appeal to true &quot;gearheads&quot;. It&#039;s built on the worldwide Zeta platform, so GM can spread its costs over a much wider production base. 

For once, GM is doing it the right way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><i>KixStart: I suspect the failure of the modern, very muscular, GTO foreshadows trouble moving the new Camaro. Yeah, it’s not quite the same but retro is only going to carry you so far.</i></p>
<p>The revived GTO looked like a Cavalier on steroids, was sold by Pontiac dealers and received virtually no advertising support. </p>
<p>People buying this sort of car want distinctive style, and the Camaro gives it to them. </p>
<p><i>KixStart: For $39K, you can still get the real thing, in very good condition, if you so desire. $30K for a modern knock-off?</i></p>
<p>The &#8220;real thing&#8221; gets terrible gas mileage (in the single digits for the high-performance models), rides like a buckboard, makes a Camry look like a Ferrari in the ride-and-handling department and has safety equipment that consists of lap belts, a padded dashboard, a collapsible steering column and a laminated windshield.</p>
<p>The lack of safety equipment is especially important. There are quite a few people reluctant to use old cars on a regular basis because of the lack of today&#8217;s safety features.  </p>
<p><i>KixStart: How many Skystices got sold this year? Something like 2K? How many SSRs were bought?</i></p>
<p>The Skystices are hampered by the fact there is a better alternative available in this class &#8211; the Mazda Miata. The Camaro&#8217;s competition is the Mustang, and, while I like that car, I&#8217;m willing to bet that this Camaro will be fully competitive. </p>
<p>The SSR was a combination pickup truck, sports car and convertible that couldn&#8217;t haul much, didn&#8217;t offer great performance and was too expensive. Not a winning combination&#8230;</p>
<p><i>KixStart: Sure, the new Camaro is a little more versatile (I presume it will have a back seat) but it’s still a muscle car in an increasingly Camcord world.</i></p>
<p>Actually, this helps the Camaro, because once a class of vehicle becomes very popular, people begin to want alternatives. Just as not everyone wanted an Impala or Galaxie in the 1960s, today not everyone wants a Camry or Accord (and GM has the new, much-improved Malibu to compete in this class). </p>
<p>Detroit&#8217;s problem has been to view the vehicles like the Camaro as saviors. The Camaro won&#8217;t save the company, but it gives Chevrolet something different to appeal to true &#8220;gearheads&#8221;. It&#8217;s built on the worldwide Zeta platform, so GM can spread its costs over a much wider production base. </p>
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		<title>By: Steve_S</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-camaros-interior-is-hideous/comment-page-2/#comment-96657</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve_S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 16:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I’m not in love with the interior I think it works in this application. The center stack will get prettied up and I’d be surprised if redundant info like fuel, oil and temp are not also on the digital display between the Speedo and RPM (having them below the stereo is a bit of nostalgia like the mini). You can’t see it in the spy shots but you can in the concept. Also who is to say that the production interior won’t end up like the concept or pretty close once it’s complete? If you look at both they are very close it’s just that the materials used on this pre-production mule is poor. As I would expect them to be. I really think everyone is making a mountain out of a mole hill on this one. If you look at the photos closely you’ll notice that the front seats are different. One is power and one is manual. Should we jump on GM about that too?

The Camaro is on the top of my shopping list for my next car and the last 4 cars in my family have all been Japanese so for at least one person GM might make a conquest sale. I also think GM will sell many of these as well as more than a few of the new G8.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->While I’m not in love with the interior I think it works in this application. The center stack will get prettied up and I’d be surprised if redundant info like fuel, oil and temp are not also on the digital display between the Speedo and RPM (having them below the stereo is a bit of nostalgia like the mini). You can’t see it in the spy shots but you can in the concept. Also who is to say that the production interior won’t end up like the concept or pretty close once it’s complete? If you look at both they are very close it’s just that the materials used on this pre-production mule is poor. As I would expect them to be. I really think everyone is making a mountain out of a mole hill on this one. If you look at the photos closely you’ll notice that the front seats are different. One is power and one is manual. Should we jump on GM about that too?</p>
<p>The Camaro is on the top of my shopping list for my next car and the last 4 cars in my family have all been Japanese so for at least one person GM might make a conquest sale. I also think GM will sell many of these as well as more than a few of the new G8.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: tony-e30</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-camaros-interior-is-hideous/comment-page-2/#comment-96636</link>
		<dc:creator>tony-e30</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 15:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe it wise to reserve judgment until the production model.</description>
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		<title>By: Orian</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-camaros-interior-is-hideous/comment-page-2/#comment-96604</link>
		<dc:creator>Orian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 14:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still haven&#039;t figured out why GM and Ford insist on putting Retro interiors in these cars. I can&#039;t stand the Mustang&#039;s and I sincerely hope that this does not make it into production.

I&#039;ve also never seen pre-production test mules with interiors significantly different than what goes into production, so I&#039;d bet this is what people are going to get.

To me the interior is as important as the exterior. When I&#039;m driving the car I am not seeing the exterior. I&#039;d never buy one of these with an interior even remotely similar to this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I still haven&#8217;t figured out why GM and Ford insist on putting Retro interiors in these cars. I can&#8217;t stand the Mustang&#8217;s and I sincerely hope that this does not make it into production.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also never seen pre-production test mules with interiors significantly different than what goes into production, so I&#8217;d bet this is what people are going to get.</p>
<p>To me the interior is as important as the exterior. When I&#8217;m driving the car I am not seeing the exterior. I&#8217;d never buy one of these with an interior even remotely similar to this one.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Virtual Insanity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Virtual Insanity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 14:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want one.</description>
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		<title>By: jurisb</title>
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		<dc:creator>jurisb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 10:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>carguy1964- Camaro looks like a modern interpretation of muscle cars of late 60ies, while challenger really looks like the old 60ies car design. And it willy-nilly gives a wrong suspicion that everything underneath it is also cast- iron -live -axle -ohv-leaf-springs-old-timer. challenger looks like an old copycat sheetmetal. And Camaro is not `really a holden`, it is really a german engineered 94` omega platform derivative, with aussies tuning the chassis and gm orchestrating the finale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->carguy1964- Camaro looks like a modern interpretation of muscle cars of late 60ies, while challenger really looks like the old 60ies car design. And it willy-nilly gives a wrong suspicion that everything underneath it is also cast- iron -live -axle -ohv-leaf-springs-old-timer. challenger looks like an old copycat sheetmetal. And Camaro is not `really a holden`, it is really a german engineered 94` omega platform derivative, with aussies tuning the chassis and gm orchestrating the finale.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: carguy1964</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 07:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree what a butt ugly interior, GM, What were you thinkin, hell let the Aussies do the whole complete work, heck after all it&#039;s really a &quot;Holden&quot;, no matter how you badge it, and yes I say the BU&#039;s interior is light years ahead of that crappy thing you call the retro interior, I really think Mopar has the Challenger way ahead of this retro mod car!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I have to agree what a butt ugly interior, GM, What were you thinkin, hell let the Aussies do the whole complete work, heck after all it&#8217;s really a &#8220;Holden&#8221;, no matter how you badge it, and yes I say the BU&#8217;s interior is light years ahead of that crappy thing you call the retro interior, I really think Mopar has the Challenger way ahead of this retro mod car!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Dangerous Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dangerous Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 06:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where&#039;s my eye bleach?</description>
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		<title>By: KixStart</title>
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		<dc:creator>KixStart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 06:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TriShield,

&quot;Legion of GM muscle fans?&quot;  I find myself wondering how many are in that &quot;legion.&quot;  I suspect the failure of the modern, very muscular, GTO foreshadows trouble moving the new Camaro.  Yeah, it&#039;s not quite the same but retro is only going to carry you so far.  For $39K, you can still get the real thing, in very good condition, if you so desire.  $30K for a modern knock-off?

How many Skystices got sold this year?  Something like 2K?  How many SSRs were bought?  Sure, the new Camaro is a little more versatile (I presume it will have a back seat) but it&#039;s still a muscle car in an increasingly Camcord world.

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FastLane also got some adverse feedback about the Camaro interior.  And I noticed this post, by &quot;E.L.&quot; in response to complaints about the interior:

&quot;Calm down people. Bob&#039;s got this one.&quot;

Which caused me to chuckle.</description>
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<p>&#8220;Legion of GM muscle fans?&#8221;  I find myself wondering how many are in that &#8220;legion.&#8221;  I suspect the failure of the modern, very muscular, GTO foreshadows trouble moving the new Camaro.  Yeah, it&#8217;s not quite the same but retro is only going to carry you so far.  For $39K, you can still get the real thing, in very good condition, if you so desire.  $30K for a modern knock-off?</p>
<p>How many Skystices got sold this year?  Something like 2K?  How many SSRs were bought?  Sure, the new Camaro is a little more versatile (I presume it will have a back seat) but it&#8217;s still a muscle car in an increasingly Camcord world.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>FastLane also got some adverse feedback about the Camaro interior.  And I noticed this post, by &#8220;E.L.&#8221; in response to complaints about the interior:</p>
<p>&#8220;Calm down people. Bob&#8217;s got this one.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: TriShield</title>
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		<dc:creator>TriShield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 05:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert, I understand what you mean.  But I think if you approach a retro-muscle car expecting a BMW-style interior your expectations might be a little unrealistic.  

GM knows the fanbase for the Camaro and has been listening to them intently for years to create the latest model.  Inside and out they are paying homage to the original legend and including the style and cues that make it unmistakably a Camaro.

I have a hard time picturing the interior of a car like this looking completely different than the original, or dare I say bland and contemporary like a Malibu or Accord.  

Center speedometers aren&#039;t my thing, but somehow in the Mini Cooper it makes sense and works.  Generally I don&#039;t like hard plastic, utilitarian interiors but a Wrangler with anything else (or styled like anything else) would be horribly wrong.

If muscle cars have never been your thing the Camaro isn&#039;t going to change your mind no matter how nice it drives, what they trim it with or how well it performs.  Instead they are giving the people that live, eat and breath this type of car what they&#039;ve always wanted and demanded.

GM had an excellent modern muscle car available just a few years ago, but the legion of GM muscle fans rejected the GTO because it was too contemporary and didn&#039;t resemble the originals.  It&#039;s a shame because it was a great car.  

This time GM is listening and realizes the imporance of doing cars like this right, perhaps they will be rewarded for it.  We&#039;ll see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Robert, I understand what you mean.  But I think if you approach a retro-muscle car expecting a BMW-style interior your expectations might be a little unrealistic.  </p>
<p>GM knows the fanbase for the Camaro and has been listening to them intently for years to create the latest model.  Inside and out they are paying homage to the original legend and including the style and cues that make it unmistakably a Camaro.</p>
<p>I have a hard time picturing the interior of a car like this looking completely different than the original, or dare I say bland and contemporary like a Malibu or Accord.  </p>
<p>Center speedometers aren&#8217;t my thing, but somehow in the Mini Cooper it makes sense and works.  Generally I don&#8217;t like hard plastic, utilitarian interiors but a Wrangler with anything else (or styled like anything else) would be horribly wrong.</p>
<p>If muscle cars have never been your thing the Camaro isn&#8217;t going to change your mind no matter how nice it drives, what they trim it with or how well it performs.  Instead they are giving the people that live, eat and breath this type of car what they&#8217;ve always wanted and demanded.</p>
<p>GM had an excellent modern muscle car available just a few years ago, but the legion of GM muscle fans rejected the GTO because it was too contemporary and didn&#8217;t resemble the originals.  It&#8217;s a shame because it was a great car.  </p>
<p>This time GM is listening and realizes the imporance of doing cars like this right, perhaps they will be rewarded for it.  We&#8217;ll see.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Wheatridger</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 05:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t the speedo cluster modeled on a pair of Elton John&#039;s old &quot;Captain Fantastic&quot; eyeglasses? Overall, that dash is just repulsive, like some weird, unnatural fish brought up from the bottom of the sea.</description>
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		<title>By: pb35</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-camaros-interior-is-hideous/comment-page-2/#comment-96570</link>
		<dc:creator>pb35</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 04:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They need to mount a big &#039;ol Sun tach on the steering column.</description>
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		<title>By: tdoyle</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-camaros-interior-is-hideous/comment-page-2/#comment-96562</link>
		<dc:creator>tdoyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 02:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That VW Rabbit interior shot on Jalopnik looks better, even after 23 years.</description>
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		<title>By: naif</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-camaros-interior-is-hideous/comment-page-2/#comment-96550</link>
		<dc:creator>naif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 01:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if that is it, thats gotta go-go-go.</description>
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		<title>By: Robert Farago</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-camaros-interior-is-hideous/comment-page-2/#comment-96548</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Farago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 01:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not the details that grate. 

Obviously, one expects the makers of the new &#039;Bu to sweat the details on the Camaro cabin&#039;s fit and finish. (If they don&#039;t, they&#039;ll be a different kind of Hell to pay.) I&#039;m almost reasonably sure that the muscle car&#039;s helm will get an ace wrapper and the kind of high quality polymers the original never had. 

But I can&#039;t see how they&#039;re gong to change the design elements that make this an abomination. As several commentators have pointed out, the square gauges are horrific. The placement of the dials low down on the dash, behind the shifter (which is just plain silly looking), is ludicrous. Etc. 

In short, this sucker has bad bones, when it should be b-b-b-b-bad to the done. inside and out. 

Still, point taken. We shall see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->It&#8217;s not the details that grate. </p>
<p>Obviously, one expects the makers of the new &#8216;Bu to sweat the details on the Camaro cabin&#8217;s fit and finish. (If they don&#8217;t, they&#8217;ll be a different kind of Hell to pay.) I&#8217;m almost reasonably sure that the muscle car&#8217;s helm will get an ace wrapper and the kind of high quality polymers the original never had. </p>
<p>But I can&#8217;t see how they&#8217;re gong to change the design elements that make this an abomination. As several commentators have pointed out, the square gauges are horrific. The placement of the dials low down on the dash, behind the shifter (which is just plain silly looking), is ludicrous. Etc. </p>
<p>In short, this sucker has bad bones, when it should be b-b-b-b-bad to the done. inside and out. </p>
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		<title>By: TriShield</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-camaros-interior-is-hideous/comment-page-1/#comment-96545</link>
		<dc:creator>TriShield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 01:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sajeev is absolutely right, the overall styling is nearly perfect.  The interior is just as stylish and retro as the exterior and uniquely Camaro, which is exactly the way it should be.  

I for one am thrilled to see GM has kept the car faithful to the concept and the original Camaro.  1960s cues like the dual-pod/cowl and aux gauges on the center console are still there, as they should be.  It&#039;s unique touches and details like that help make cars like this really special.  Can you imagine a Mini with a bland, oval, contemporary interior?  I can&#039;t either and it wouldn&#039;t be right. 

I&#039;m also amazed that this car has it&#039;s own unique steering wheel, radio face, HVAC unit, steering column and other parts.  When was the last time GM ever went through that kind of trouble on an affordable, mainstream car?  Or any mass market automaker?

Also remember this is an engineering mule.  The interior trim doesn&#039;t have it&#039;s final production color, graining, fit and finish.  Many materials will likely change between now and then.  Those with a sharp eye can also see that they&#039;re using a set of cloth seats out of the Holden Commodore SS to make these test cars tolerable to drive.  

Expect the details and the trim to change for production and the seats to be styled like the concepts.  The ambient interior lighting will also be excellent as it is in the new CTS. 

It&#039;s a mistake to write this car off based on spy photography of a dirty mule interior.  You can bet by the time this car is unveiled and we see the finished product in it&#039;s glory it will make an entirely different impression. 

GM knows their audience for this car and they know how much of the brand&#039;s image is riding on it, they will deliver a quality, world-class muscle car for the masses in the new Camaro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Sajeev is absolutely right, the overall styling is nearly perfect.  The interior is just as stylish and retro as the exterior and uniquely Camaro, which is exactly the way it should be.  </p>
<p>I for one am thrilled to see GM has kept the car faithful to the concept and the original Camaro.  1960s cues like the dual-pod/cowl and aux gauges on the center console are still there, as they should be.  It&#8217;s unique touches and details like that help make cars like this really special.  Can you imagine a Mini with a bland, oval, contemporary interior?  I can&#8217;t either and it wouldn&#8217;t be right. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also amazed that this car has it&#8217;s own unique steering wheel, radio face, HVAC unit, steering column and other parts.  When was the last time GM ever went through that kind of trouble on an affordable, mainstream car?  Or any mass market automaker?</p>
<p>Also remember this is an engineering mule.  The interior trim doesn&#8217;t have it&#8217;s final production color, graining, fit and finish.  Many materials will likely change between now and then.  Those with a sharp eye can also see that they&#8217;re using a set of cloth seats out of the Holden Commodore SS to make these test cars tolerable to drive.  </p>
<p>Expect the details and the trim to change for production and the seats to be styled like the concepts.  The ambient interior lighting will also be excellent as it is in the new CTS. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a mistake to write this car off based on spy photography of a dirty mule interior.  You can bet by the time this car is unveiled and we see the finished product in it&#8217;s glory it will make an entirely different impression. </p>
<p>GM knows their audience for this car and they know how much of the brand&#8217;s image is riding on it, they will deliver a quality, world-class muscle car for the masses in the new Camaro.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: quasimondo</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-camaros-interior-is-hideous/comment-page-1/#comment-96541</link>
		<dc:creator>quasimondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 00:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I took a second look and decided to add some constructive criticism:

1.  Ditch the steering wheel.  I know what they&#039;re trying to do.  They&#039;re trying to recreate that 60&#039;s look of the thin steering wheel with thin spokes.  It doesn&#039;t work when you have a massive airbag in the middle.  It just looks like something more appropriate on a bumper car.  If you can&#039;t repackage the airbag to be smaller, make the spokes bigger so it doesn&#039;t stick out so much.

2.  Ditch the aluminum theme, unless they&#039;re going to use real aluminum.  If you try to plasticize it,  you&#039;ll be taking GM interior design back &lt;strike&gt;2&lt;/strike&gt; 10 years.

3.  If you&#039;re going retro, keep the console gauges, ditch the shifter.  The shifter designs for the &#039;68-69 Camaro would be better to use, not that sphere-on-cylinder thing.

4.  Something&#039;s gotta be done about those HVAC knobs.  They scream &#039;Cheap Plastic!!!&#039; a mile away.

5.  Narrow the center vents, it throws the proportions off.</description>
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<p>1.  Ditch the steering wheel.  I know what they&#8217;re trying to do.  They&#8217;re trying to recreate that 60&#8217;s look of the thin steering wheel with thin spokes.  It doesn&#8217;t work when you have a massive airbag in the middle.  It just looks like something more appropriate on a bumper car.  If you can&#8217;t repackage the airbag to be smaller, make the spokes bigger so it doesn&#8217;t stick out so much.</p>
<p>2.  Ditch the aluminum theme, unless they&#8217;re going to use real aluminum.  If you try to plasticize it,  you&#8217;ll be taking GM interior design back <strike>2</strike> 10 years.</p>
<p>3.  If you&#8217;re going retro, keep the console gauges, ditch the shifter.  The shifter designs for the &#8216;68-69 Camaro would be better to use, not that sphere-on-cylinder thing.</p>
<p>4.  Something&#8217;s gotta be done about those HVAC knobs.  They scream &#8216;Cheap Plastic!!!&#8217; a mile away.</p>
<p>5.  Narrow the center vents, it throws the proportions off.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: gforce2002</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-camaros-interior-is-hideous/comment-page-1/#comment-96537</link>
		<dc:creator>gforce2002</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 00:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even a cursory glance shows that the IP pictured is incomplete (it appears the entire top section is missing).  And as such, any assessment of its ultimate appearance is pretty pointless.</description>
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		<title>By: Facebook User</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-camaros-interior-is-hideous/comment-page-1/#comment-96532</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 00:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can say that the fit and finish of the final production product will be better and that there are some pieces that are obviously going to be added to the production models, but that doesn&#039;t change the ridiculous gauge cluster on the center stack or the squares outlining the gauges in front of the driver.  It&#039;s just plain bad, and I don&#039;t mean that in a good way.</description>
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		<title>By: Mark MacInnis</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-camaros-interior-is-hideous/comment-page-1/#comment-96526</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark MacInnis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 23:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cupholders?  We doan need no stinkin&#039; cupholders!

We&#039;ll get some of the 99 cent ones that hung from the window track from Murray&#039;s discount auto, and cruise.....</description>
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		<title>By: jurisb</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-camaros-interior-is-hideous/comment-page-1/#comment-96521</link>
		<dc:creator>jurisb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 23:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is not the final interior version. as you can see it is still missing many parts like digital screen and its panel. decorative moldings on dashboard , buttons on steering wheel, plus many parts are still not aligned properly. the final version will be much better. hope they don`t leave the a/c control knobs so primitive and without a seperate digital screen. Chrome door handles? remote gas cap? foldable side mirrors? remote trunk? halogen lens lamps? top version with leather dash? Hope they won`t have saved on it.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->this is not the final interior version. as you can see it is still missing many parts like digital screen and its panel. decorative moldings on dashboard , buttons on steering wheel, plus many parts are still not aligned properly. the final version will be much better. hope they don`t leave the a/c control knobs so primitive and without a seperate digital screen. Chrome door handles? remote gas cap? foldable side mirrors? remote trunk? halogen lens lamps? top version with leather dash? Hope they won`t have saved on it&#8230;..<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: slateslate</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-camaros-interior-is-hideous/comment-page-1/#comment-96520</link>
		<dc:creator>slateslate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 23:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>c&#039;mon....even the circa 2019 hoons deserve better interiors.</description>
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		<title>By: Kurt B</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new-camaros-interior-is-hideous/comment-page-1/#comment-96508</link>
		<dc:creator>Kurt B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 21:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Retro? As in Pontiac Sunbird retro?
This interior makes me feel ill.</description>
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