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		<title>By: Sajeev Mehta</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/mercury-rising/comment-page-2/#comment-80053</link>
		<dc:creator>Sajeev Mehta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Remember, todays Euro-Fords are VWs circa 2001.
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Taxed: Really? Maybe you can draw a connection to the Focus and a VW (I don&#039;t see it) but the 2008 Mondeo?  Design wise, there&#039;s nothing VW about that ride.</description>
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Taxed: Really? Maybe you can draw a connection to the Focus and a VW (I don&#8217;t see it) but the 2008 Mondeo?  Design wise, there&#8217;s nothing VW about that ride.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: TaxedAndConfused</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/mercury-rising/comment-page-2/#comment-79464</link>
		<dc:creator>TaxedAndConfused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 08:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember, todays Euro-Fords are VWs circa 2001. Maybe mercury should just sell itself to VW as another Satelite maker ?  

Mercury &quot;Superb&quot; anyone ?</description>
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<p>Mercury &#8220;Superb&#8221; anyone ?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Terry Parkhurst</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/mercury-rising/comment-page-2/#comment-76807</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Parkhurst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 01:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bakc more than 50 years, when Mercury was to Ford as Scion is to Toyota, the difference between a Mercury and a Ford was more than skin deep. Hot rodders - this was back before &quot;street rods&quot; or certainly &quot;resto-rods&quot; - preferred a Mercury flathead (so called since the valves weren&#039;t in the cylinder heads) V8 because it had a bit hotter camshaft and higher compression (if memory serves). 

And the car looked different, with form following function. The old custom car builders did a thing where they dropped the body down over the frame rails and the 1949-&#039;51 Mercury had a bit of that for better handling. Those were the cars known by auctioneers everywhere these days, as &quot;the James Dean car,&quot; since he drove a Mercury of that vintage in the seminal teen angst movie, &quot;Rebel without a Cause.&quot; 

Mercury got the idea from the late, great marque of Hudson, who dropped the body so far over the rails, it ensured that Hudson dominated the first few years of NASCAR, back when stock car racing was really just that.

For Mercury to come back, it would have to somehow divorce itself from being something that middle-aged (or older) white people drive instead of a Buick. Mercury tried that with the most recent Marauder and it failed. Given how far back you have to go to remember when Mercury was anyone&#039;s idea of a performance car - the days of the original Cougar perhaps, when it was a fairly successful race car in the Trans Am - the task is so Herculean as to be almost impossible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Bakc more than 50 years, when Mercury was to Ford as Scion is to Toyota, the difference between a Mercury and a Ford was more than skin deep. Hot rodders &#8211; this was back before &#8220;street rods&#8221; or certainly &#8220;resto-rods&#8221; &#8211; preferred a Mercury flathead (so called since the valves weren&#8217;t in the cylinder heads) V8 because it had a bit hotter camshaft and higher compression (if memory serves). </p>
<p>And the car looked different, with form following function. The old custom car builders did a thing where they dropped the body down over the frame rails and the 1949-&#8217;51 Mercury had a bit of that for better handling. Those were the cars known by auctioneers everywhere these days, as &#8220;the James Dean car,&#8221; since he drove a Mercury of that vintage in the seminal teen angst movie, &#8220;Rebel without a Cause.&#8221; </p>
<p>Mercury got the idea from the late, great marque of Hudson, who dropped the body so far over the rails, it ensured that Hudson dominated the first few years of NASCAR, back when stock car racing was really just that.</p>
<p>For Mercury to come back, it would have to somehow divorce itself from being something that middle-aged (or older) white people drive instead of a Buick. Mercury tried that with the most recent Marauder and it failed. Given how far back you have to go to remember when Mercury was anyone&#8217;s idea of a performance car &#8211; the days of the original Cougar perhaps, when it was a fairly successful race car in the Trans Am &#8211; the task is so Herculean as to be almost impossible.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ex-dtw</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/mercury-rising/comment-page-2/#comment-76238</link>
		<dc:creator>ex-dtw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone decries American cars as feeling cheap.

But the truth is they feel cheaper because they ARE cheaper.

It&#039;s like that old joke, &quot;Do these pants make my but look big?  Whadya mean &#039;Look big&#039;?  It is big&quot;. (Or something like that).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Everyone decries American cars as feeling cheap.</p>
<p>But the truth is they feel cheaper because they ARE cheaper.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like that old joke, &#8220;Do these pants make my but look big?  Whadya mean &#8216;Look big&#8217;?  It is big&#8221;. (Or something like that).<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Dynamic88</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/mercury-rising/comment-page-2/#comment-76081</link>
		<dc:creator>Dynamic88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 19:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point.</description>
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		<title>By: Sajeev Mehta</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/mercury-rising/comment-page-2/#comment-76069</link>
		<dc:creator>Sajeev Mehta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 16:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Zanadude, now I wonder if Ford&#039;s actually trying what its enthusiasts (all six of &#039;em) want to see. 

Dynamic: I don&#039;t think the Euro-Fords should (can) replace Ford&#039;s lineup because they&#039;re too small, too expensive to make, and WAY too light on the beancounting. These cars are better off on a small-time brand with narrower sales aspirations. 

Think WalMart vs. Target. Or WalMart vs. Pier 1 Imports.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Thanks Zanadude, now I wonder if Ford&#8217;s actually trying what its enthusiasts (all six of &#8216;em) want to see. </p>
<p>Dynamic: I don&#8217;t think the Euro-Fords should (can) replace Ford&#8217;s lineup because they&#8217;re too small, too expensive to make, and WAY too light on the beancounting. These cars are better off on a small-time brand with narrower sales aspirations. </p>
<p>Think WalMart vs. Target. Or WalMart vs. Pier 1 Imports.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jurisb</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 16:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have to understand, a company,a country that is allergic to physical engineering, a company that would do anything just to look like a car manufacturer, would do any rebadge, engineering transfer etc, just to avoid building cars themselves. they would soon import chinese cherries and rebadge them as foci or whatever. how desperate are you ford? how impotent and imbecile if any given affiliate of yours can build cars better and it doesn`t matter if it is kangaroo ford or fritz ford. anywhere. except detroit. just keep banging... with your rappers. why would you need making cars, if you can sell rap music or google? mercury? emty promises.... today they even  don`t bother to have a make up beyond c-pillar, just slap a badge on a mazda 6 based sedan...right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->You have to understand, a company,a country that is allergic to physical engineering, a company that would do anything just to look like a car manufacturer, would do any rebadge, engineering transfer etc, just to avoid building cars themselves. they would soon import chinese cherries and rebadge them as foci or whatever. how desperate are you ford? how impotent and imbecile if any given affiliate of yours can build cars better and it doesn`t matter if it is kangaroo ford or fritz ford. anywhere. except detroit. just keep banging&#8230; with your rappers. why would you need making cars, if you can sell rap music or google? mercury? emty promises&#8230;. today they even  don`t bother to have a make up beyond c-pillar, just slap a badge on a mazda 6 based sedan&#8230;right.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Dynamic88</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/mercury-rising/comment-page-2/#comment-76044</link>
		<dc:creator>Dynamic88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 10:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Trying to sell the Euro Fords with regular Fords is just as stupid as selling Merkurs (as mentioned in the article) with Sables and Cougars.&quot;

Agreed.  I was only suggesting selling Euro Fords instead of US Fords.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&#8220;Trying to sell the Euro Fords with regular Fords is just as stupid as selling Merkurs (as mentioned in the article) with Sables and Cougars.&#8221;</p>
<p>Agreed.  I was only suggesting selling Euro Fords instead of US Fords.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ZanaDude</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/mercury-rising/comment-page-2/#comment-76032</link>
		<dc:creator>ZanaDude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 04:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This editorial reflects many points that other Ford-o-philes and myself have to deal with all the time: the lack of the Euro Focus, the Fusion/Mondeo debate, and the whole &quot;why does Europe get all the good Fords?!?&quot; thing.

Thanks, Sajeev, for putting in an article much of what many of us constantly have to put in forum posts.  The bulk answers to the whole gaggle of predictable Euro Ford queries are:

1.  It&#039;s not as simple as people think.

2.  America has blown off Euro Fords previously.

The logic of making Mercury a division for trickling these cars over here-even to test-market them-has been a screaming point for myself and others for years.  Mercuries are SUPPOSED to cost more than Fords, and are even marketed toward a young, hipper crowd than Ford/Chevy/Dodge plays to.  These are the people that truly associate imports with pseudo-elitism, and see that most domestics are either too &quot;blue collar&quot; or are cursed by the ongoing (and essentially obsolete) perception of &quot;domestic inferiority&quot;.

As Lincoln moves upmarket-and it must, soon-Mercury becomes possibly the most exciting division of Ford North America.  We know Alan Mullaly wants to bring in some of the Euro Fords, and we also know that mainstream buyers don&#039;t crave these kinds of drivers&#039; cars like enthusiasts do.

Fine.  Bring &#039;em as Mercuries, in smaller allotments and without having to do massive retooling and investment that requires 500,000 units/year to break even.  The dealerships are proven, and there&#039;s about to be a large gap between the back-to-the-basics Fords and the forthcoming Lincolns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->This editorial reflects many points that other Ford-o-philes and myself have to deal with all the time: the lack of the Euro Focus, the Fusion/Mondeo debate, and the whole &#8220;why does Europe get all the good Fords?!?&#8221; thing.</p>
<p>Thanks, Sajeev, for putting in an article much of what many of us constantly have to put in forum posts.  The bulk answers to the whole gaggle of predictable Euro Ford queries are:</p>
<p>1.  It&#8217;s not as simple as people think.</p>
<p>2.  America has blown off Euro Fords previously.</p>
<p>The logic of making Mercury a division for trickling these cars over here-even to test-market them-has been a screaming point for myself and others for years.  Mercuries are SUPPOSED to cost more than Fords, and are even marketed toward a young, hipper crowd than Ford/Chevy/Dodge plays to.  These are the people that truly associate imports with pseudo-elitism, and see that most domestics are either too &#8220;blue collar&#8221; or are cursed by the ongoing (and essentially obsolete) perception of &#8220;domestic inferiority&#8221;.</p>
<p>As Lincoln moves upmarket-and it must, soon-Mercury becomes possibly the most exciting division of Ford North America.  We know Alan Mullaly wants to bring in some of the Euro Fords, and we also know that mainstream buyers don&#8217;t crave these kinds of drivers&#8217; cars like enthusiasts do.</p>
<p>Fine.  Bring &#8216;em as Mercuries, in smaller allotments and without having to do massive retooling and investment that requires 500,000 units/year to break even.  The dealerships are proven, and there&#8217;s about to be a large gap between the back-to-the-basics Fords and the forthcoming Lincolns.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Sajeev Mehta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sajeev Mehta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 21:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Yes and no. To boomers, and anyone older, we know that it’s suppossed to be an upscale Ford.Today, Mercury is to Ford as Dodge and Plymouth were to each other. &lt;/em&gt;

Well put. And the Euro-Fords aren&#039;t gonna appeal to boomers, they&#039;re gonna appeal to GEN X and Y folks who are trained to buy imports. 

The conflict of interest between the old perception of Mercury and its potential with a new era of import-minded buyers isn&#039;t very strong. (IMO)

&lt;em&gt;But since Ford doesn’t really have an immage either -excpet to the extent it’s seen as crap, why not just do this with Ford and jettison the LM division. &lt;/em&gt;

Trying to sell the Euro Fords with regular Fords is just as stupid as selling Merkurs (as mentioned in the article) with Sables and Cougars. 

That lineup needs a separate brand to ensure its success, or it shall fail like all the others. And Mercury is an unknown quantity waiting for a real product lineup to go with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>Yes and no. To boomers, and anyone older, we know that it’s suppossed to be an upscale Ford.Today, Mercury is to Ford as Dodge and Plymouth were to each other. </em></p>
<p>Well put. And the Euro-Fords aren&#8217;t gonna appeal to boomers, they&#8217;re gonna appeal to GEN X and Y folks who are trained to buy imports. </p>
<p>The conflict of interest between the old perception of Mercury and its potential with a new era of import-minded buyers isn&#8217;t very strong. (IMO)</p>
<p><em>But since Ford doesn’t really have an immage either -excpet to the extent it’s seen as crap, why not just do this with Ford and jettison the LM division. </em></p>
<p>Trying to sell the Euro Fords with regular Fords is just as stupid as selling Merkurs (as mentioned in the article) with Sables and Cougars. </p>
<p>That lineup needs a separate brand to ensure its success, or it shall fail like all the others. And Mercury is an unknown quantity waiting for a real product lineup to go with.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Dynamic88</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dynamic88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 21:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Question is: does Mercury have a brand image?”

Yes and no.    To boomers, and anyone older, we know that it&#039;s suppossed to be an upscale Ford.  Time was (in the 50s and maybe 60s) it was different enough to actually make one thing he had moved up by getting a Merc.    Today, Mercury is to Ford as Dodge and Plymouth were to each other.   Though, Merc still goes to the trouble of changing the grill and coming up with a separate model name - usually something starting with the letter M.   

For younger people, I agree that there is basically no brand image at all.   No problem then, forming a new image where none exists, or it&#039;s only a shadow of it&#039;s former self.  

But since Ford doesn&#039;t really have an immage either -excpet to the extent it&#039;s seen as crap, why not just do this with Ford and jettison the LM division.</description>
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<p>Yes and no.    To boomers, and anyone older, we know that it&#8217;s suppossed to be an upscale Ford.  Time was (in the 50s and maybe 60s) it was different enough to actually make one thing he had moved up by getting a Merc.    Today, Mercury is to Ford as Dodge and Plymouth were to each other.   Though, Merc still goes to the trouble of changing the grill and coming up with a separate model name &#8211; usually something starting with the letter M.   </p>
<p>For younger people, I agree that there is basically no brand image at all.   No problem then, forming a new image where none exists, or it&#8217;s only a shadow of it&#8217;s former self.  </p>
<p>But since Ford doesn&#8217;t really have an immage either -excpet to the extent it&#8217;s seen as crap, why not just do this with Ford and jettison the LM division.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: GMis4GoodManners</title>
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		<dc:creator>GMis4GoodManners</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 17:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess you seem to have forgotten all about the Merkur???</description>
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		<title>By: Sajeev Mehta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sajeev Mehta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 15:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Sure it does, Mercury is slightly nicer Fords for the person who wants something like a Ford offering a lot of vehicle for the money but a touch different and upscale. &lt;/em&gt;

Sounds good. But who besides car enthusiasts knows that? Considering I know several non-car people (GEN X) who think Toyota owns the popular Infiniti brand, they have about zero knowledge of who makes a Mercury, much less what it stands for. When I tell them that I own a Mercury, they look at me funny...like I just spoke a different language they can&#039;t comprehend. 

Times have changed: Mercury isn&#039;t doomed to mess up its transplants...its completely doomed no matter what it does. 

There&#039;s only one hope for rejuvenation. And being an unknown quantity is both a good and bad thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>Sure it does, Mercury is slightly nicer Fords for the person who wants something like a Ford offering a lot of vehicle for the money but a touch different and upscale. </em></p>
<p>Sounds good. But who besides car enthusiasts knows that? Considering I know several non-car people (GEN X) who think Toyota owns the popular Infiniti brand, they have about zero knowledge of who makes a Mercury, much less what it stands for. When I tell them that I own a Mercury, they look at me funny&#8230;like I just spoke a different language they can&#8217;t comprehend. </p>
<p>Times have changed: Mercury isn&#8217;t doomed to mess up its transplants&#8230;its completely doomed no matter what it does. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s only one hope for rejuvenation. And being an unknown quantity is both a good and bad thing.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jthorner</title>
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		<dc:creator>jthorner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 06:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Question is: does Mercury have a brand image?&quot;

Sure it does, Mercury is slightly nicer Fords for the person who wants something like a Ford offering a lot of vehicle for the money but a touch different and upscale.   Every time Ford tries to make Mercury into something else it is a disaster.  

The recent attempt to make it the Ford brand for women is a complete dud as that branding exists only in the minds of a handful of FoMoCo highly paid experts.

In any case, there is no way on this earth for Mercury to be reasonably spun into Ford&#039;s European Brand in the US.  As far as going after VW&#039;s throat, the Japanese are already all over that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&#8220;Question is: does Mercury have a brand image?&#8221;</p>
<p>Sure it does, Mercury is slightly nicer Fords for the person who wants something like a Ford offering a lot of vehicle for the money but a touch different and upscale.   Every time Ford tries to make Mercury into something else it is a disaster.  </p>
<p>The recent attempt to make it the Ford brand for women is a complete dud as that branding exists only in the minds of a handful of FoMoCo highly paid experts.</p>
<p>In any case, there is no way on this earth for Mercury to be reasonably spun into Ford&#8217;s European Brand in the US.  As far as going after VW&#8217;s throat, the Japanese are already all over that one.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: nino</title>
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		<dc:creator>nino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 04:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>autonerd : 
September 27th, 2007 at 2:12 pm 


&lt;em&gt;Nino –

One could argue that the Aura is sort-of an Opel, though considering it has different engines and suspensions, one might well lose that argument.

The new Vue, however, is pretty much identical to the Opel Antara; differences are engine (Europe gets a diesel, we get V6s), suspension tuning, and the placement of radio and A/C are reversed (but interior is otherwise identical). I’d say that counts, no?

Aaron &lt;/em&gt;


The Aura is based on the same platform as the Pontiac G6 and is built here.

The new Vue is also built here, so neither one of them are imported. I believe that the new Vue and the Sky are EXPORTED to Europe.</description>
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September 27th, 2007 at 2:12 pm </p>
<p><em>Nino –</p>
<p>One could argue that the Aura is sort-of an Opel, though considering it has different engines and suspensions, one might well lose that argument.</p>
<p>The new Vue, however, is pretty much identical to the Opel Antara; differences are engine (Europe gets a diesel, we get V6s), suspension tuning, and the placement of radio and A/C are reversed (but interior is otherwise identical). I’d say that counts, no?</p>
<p>Aaron </em></p>
<p>The Aura is based on the same platform as the Pontiac G6 and is built here.</p>
<p>The new Vue is also built here, so neither one of them are imported. I believe that the new Vue and the Sky are EXPORTED to Europe.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: maxrent</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 04:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another great one from Mr. Mehta.  Thanks!

As much as I like the Euro-Fords, IMO when the same (few)models get over to the states, they usually lose something in translation.  The first gen Euro Focus hatch looked much sportier than what we got in here.  The suspension looks jacked up, lack of any subtle styling.  
A notable exception to this impression  were the Merkur from the &#039;80&#039;s.  They took those straight off the Autobahn and plopped them state-side!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Another great one from Mr. Mehta.  Thanks!</p>
<p>As much as I like the Euro-Fords, IMO when the same (few)models get over to the states, they usually lose something in translation.  The first gen Euro Focus hatch looked much sportier than what we got in here.  The suspension looks jacked up, lack of any subtle styling.<br />
A notable exception to this impression  were the Merkur from the &#8217;80&#8217;s.  They took those straight off the Autobahn and plopped them state-side!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Sajeev Mehta</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 20:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;The problem for Mercury is that its product line seems to exist as a low-cost way of keeping Lincoln dealers alive. Lincoln being a more expensive product and not exactly setting the sales charts on fire, the Lincoln dealer network’s survival would be in serious jeopardy without Mercury. I’m not sure if Ford is in a position to jettison both divisions (although to some extent it would seem like no great loss).&lt;/em&gt;

All the more reason for a cohesive brand strategy with transplants across the board. 

Yeah, I know, when pigs fly. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>The problem for Mercury is that its product line seems to exist as a low-cost way of keeping Lincoln dealers alive. Lincoln being a more expensive product and not exactly setting the sales charts on fire, the Lincoln dealer network’s survival would be in serious jeopardy without Mercury. I’m not sure if Ford is in a position to jettison both divisions (although to some extent it would seem like no great loss).</em></p>
<p>All the more reason for a cohesive brand strategy with transplants across the board. </p>
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		<title>By: argentla</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lincoln-Mercury has offered so many &quot;captive imports&quot; (DeTomaso Pantera, various Capris, Mondeo/Mystique, the Nissan-based Villager minivan, Merkur) with so little success that if I were a Ford exec I would have a hard time working up a lot of enthusiasm for that idea.

The problem for Mercury is that its product line seems to exist as a low-cost way of keeping Lincoln dealers alive. Lincoln being a more expensive product and not exactly setting the sales charts on fire, the Lincoln dealer network&#039;s survival would be in serious jeopardy without Mercury. I&#039;m not sure if Ford is in a position to jettison both divisions (although to some extent it would seem like no great loss).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Lincoln-Mercury has offered so many &#8220;captive imports&#8221; (DeTomaso Pantera, various Capris, Mondeo/Mystique, the Nissan-based Villager minivan, Merkur) with so little success that if I were a Ford exec I would have a hard time working up a lot of enthusiasm for that idea.</p>
<p>The problem for Mercury is that its product line seems to exist as a low-cost way of keeping Lincoln dealers alive. Lincoln being a more expensive product and not exactly setting the sales charts on fire, the Lincoln dealer network&#8217;s survival would be in serious jeopardy without Mercury. I&#8217;m not sure if Ford is in a position to jettison both divisions (although to some extent it would seem like no great loss).<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Sajeev Mehta</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Brand image in the customer’s mind takes decades to develop and even longer to change.
&lt;/em&gt;
Question is: does Mercury have a brand image? What&#039;s left to change?

No question it will take a long time to get the brand developed, but Mercury is starting from scratch in my book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>Brand image in the customer’s mind takes decades to develop and even longer to change.<br />
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Question is: does Mercury have a brand image? What&#8217;s left to change?</p>
<p>No question it will take a long time to get the brand developed, but Mercury is starting from scratch in my book.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jkross22</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sajeev,

A-M-E-N.

Bring it on!</description>
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		<title>By: jthorner</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; The mindshift happens when Mercury dumps their current product line and goes for VW’s throat.&quot;

Brand image in the customer&#039;s mind takes decades to develop and even longer to change.  Maybe your idea would work on Fantasy Island :).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&#8221; The mindshift happens when Mercury dumps their current product line and goes for VW’s throat.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Sajeev Mehta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sajeev Mehta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The mindshift happens when Mercury dumps their current product line and goes for VW&#039;s throat. Back in 1999, the &quot;new-edge&quot; Cougar was on its way to do just that. Let&#039;s not go into the reasons why it failed. 

This time: no other choices, no wiggle room. 

That&#039;s how you do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The mindshift happens when Mercury dumps their current product line and goes for VW&#8217;s throat. Back in 1999, the &#8220;new-edge&#8221; Cougar was on its way to do just that. Let&#8217;s not go into the reasons why it failed. </p>
<p>This time: no other choices, no wiggle room. </p>
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		<title>By: Wheely</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wheely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone else have trouble with &quot;Mercury&quot; and &quot;European Ford imports&quot; in the same sentence?  Somehow, I just don&#039;t associate the Mercury brand with anything remotely innovative.  When I think of Mercury I think of soft, cushy, chromy (but not blingy) rides for aging boomers. 

It&#039;ll take a bit of a mindshift on Mercury to implement Sajeev&#039;s plan.  Maybe enough so that it would be better to start with another name/brand altogether.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Does anyone else have trouble with &#8220;Mercury&#8221; and &#8220;European Ford imports&#8221; in the same sentence?  Somehow, I just don&#8217;t associate the Mercury brand with anything remotely innovative.  When I think of Mercury I think of soft, cushy, chromy (but not blingy) rides for aging boomers. </p>
<p>It&#8217;ll take a bit of a mindshift on Mercury to implement Sajeev&#8217;s plan.  Maybe enough so that it would be better to start with another name/brand altogether.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Sajeev Mehta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sajeev Mehta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mazda is to the Euro-Mercury what a strong HR Department is to the UAW. That&#039;s the worst part of my plan.</description>
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		<title>By: Flipper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flipper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 07:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its unnecessary to sell euro Fords as Mercurys . Mazda is doing it already. . .  with the 3, and soon with the new 6.</description>
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