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		<title>By: gamper</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/mazda-speed6/comment-page-2/#comment-195832</link>
		<dc:creator>gamper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It may be a bit late, but I thought I would add my two cents.  I have owned a Titanium with black interior Speed6 Grand Touring for a year and a half now.  Have about 32K miles on it.  It is a very fun car to drive, I probably have too much fun behind the wheel.  The clutch and gearshift complaints in the comments are legit.  However, Mazda has issued a TSB allowing anyone with complaints regarding the clutch operation to get a brand new clutch.  The full assembly.  I had mine done at about 24K miles.  The new clutch is noticably easier to operate, but honestly, once you were used to the old set up, it wasnt really a problem.  The occasional driver, such as your wife would have problems though.  Shifting gears could still be smoother.  My only real complaint with this car is the uneven power delivery that occurs occasionally.  Dont know if it is turbo surge or what.  Easily overlooked.  I would also tend to agree that the seat bolsters are non-existent.  Since I find heavily bolstered seats uncomfortable for long trips, I dont mind all that much because the Speed6&#039;s seats are comfy. I got my loaded GT for $26 and change.  You simply cannot beat that kind of performance at that price.  I suppose beauty is in the eye of the beholder as well, because I simply love the way this car looks, especially the rims.  And for those who say the Legacy has a better interior, I just dont see it.  It would be by a slim margin if any IMO.  I would agree however that the two tone optional leather seats are simply hideous.  Stay away from those.  It has been a very troublefree car.  One caveat though, from the looks of it at fan forums, the car does not take well to modifications.  So if you are interested in picking one up, beware.  Also, this thing eats tires for breakfast.  Anyway, its been good times and many smiles.  Thanks Mazda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->It may be a bit late, but I thought I would add my two cents.  I have owned a Titanium with black interior Speed6 Grand Touring for a year and a half now.  Have about 32K miles on it.  It is a very fun car to drive, I probably have too much fun behind the wheel.  The clutch and gearshift complaints in the comments are legit.  However, Mazda has issued a TSB allowing anyone with complaints regarding the clutch operation to get a brand new clutch.  The full assembly.  I had mine done at about 24K miles.  The new clutch is noticably easier to operate, but honestly, once you were used to the old set up, it wasnt really a problem.  The occasional driver, such as your wife would have problems though.  Shifting gears could still be smoother.  My only real complaint with this car is the uneven power delivery that occurs occasionally.  Dont know if it is turbo surge or what.  Easily overlooked.  I would also tend to agree that the seat bolsters are non-existent.  Since I find heavily bolstered seats uncomfortable for long trips, I dont mind all that much because the Speed6&#8217;s seats are comfy. I got my loaded GT for $26 and change.  You simply cannot beat that kind of performance at that price.  I suppose beauty is in the eye of the beholder as well, because I simply love the way this car looks, especially the rims.  And for those who say the Legacy has a better interior, I just dont see it.  It would be by a slim margin if any IMO.  I would agree however that the two tone optional leather seats are simply hideous.  Stay away from those.  It has been a very troublefree car.  One caveat though, from the looks of it at fan forums, the car does not take well to modifications.  So if you are interested in picking one up, beware.  Also, this thing eats tires for breakfast.  Anyway, its been good times and many smiles.  Thanks Mazda.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: stuntnun</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/mazda-speed6/comment-page-2/#comment-77695</link>
		<dc:creator>stuntnun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 21:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to wwest--------have an 2005 auto-x tranny---the hesitation is from drive by wire instead of drive by cable--a signal is sent by computer wire to the throttle body sensor telling the engine to go--the old way was a cable that pulled the throttle open when you pushed the gas peddle --had the dealer do a program upgrade but still a small hesitation --bought some battery cables and grounded the motor better seemed to help some-- my friends manual s2000 does the same thing .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->to wwest&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;have an 2005 auto-x tranny&#8212;the hesitation is from drive by wire instead of drive by cable&#8211;a signal is sent by computer wire to the throttle body sensor telling the engine to go&#8211;the old way was a cable that pulled the throttle open when you pushed the gas peddle &#8211;had the dealer do a program upgrade but still a small hesitation &#8211;bought some battery cables and grounded the motor better seemed to help some&#8211; my friends manual s2000 does the same thing .<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: BMan1113VR</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/mazda-speed6/comment-page-1/#comment-41112</link>
		<dc:creator>BMan1113VR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 01:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm. . .the Speed6 is manual tranny only, wwest.</description>
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		<title>By: wwest</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/mazda-speed6/comment-page-1/#comment-34653</link>
		<dc:creator>wwest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 00:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you browse about your will find owner complaints of throttle lag or engine delay/hesitation for Ford, VW, Toyota, Lexus and others, all concerning vehicles with automatic transmissions and mostly FWD or front biased AWD vehicles.

It is my firm belief that sometime in the mid to late ninties someone, or some group, with TONS of clout over the automtive industry issued an edict that the safety of FWD and front torque biased AWD had to be brought  into line with their RWD and rear torque biased AWD brotheren.

My vote goes to the automotive insurance industry. Accident statistics most readily available, certainly with the CLOUT and enough synergy with the industry to want to keep this on the QT.

The safety issue involved the potential for loss of directional control due to engine braking, especially FRONT engine braking, in wintertime adverse roadbed conditions. There is also the issue of the potential for engine braking to interfere with ABS, again especially detrimental for FWD vehicles.

So, late in the last century the shift pattern/schedule was revised across the industry to address the safety issue. The new shift pattern dictated that anytime there was a FULL lift-throttle action by the driver the transaxle would be quickly upshifted so as to prevent any significant level of engine braking.

The problem that quickly arose from this change was that if the driver quickly returned to acceleration &quot;mode&quot; the engine was now at idle and the just previously commended upshift would deplete the ATF pressure/flow reserve. With little or no ATF pressure/flow available the subsequent downshift due to the driver&#039;s re-application of pressure to the gas pedal could not be quickly completed.

As evidence of Lexus has now replaced a LOT of early RX300 transaxles.

By 2001 Lexus had figured out the problem and increased the displacement of the ATF oil pump, gear type oil pump, to provide more pressure/flow at engine idle.

So, the 2001 RX300&#039;s, even with all equipped with the extra ATF cooling via the tow package, OVERHEATS the ATF to the point that the recommended traansaxle ATF service interval has declined from infinity (the life of the vehicle actually) to every 15,000 miles.

What to do, what to do...??

Oh, I know, let&#039;s use DBW, e-throttle, to delay the onset of engine torque until the subsequent downshift can be completed, the clutches firmly seated.

So the RX330 used the old standard ATF gear pump displacement but was equipped with DBW &quot;to protect the drive train&quot;. 

Regretably some one else in engineering had already decided that the VC, Viscous Clutch, in the AWD version was contributing to the overheating of the ATF and so it was removed, not to return until the advent of the RX350.

Is Lexus listening, do you suppose?

The final FIX...

SNOW mode...Assuming the new shift pattern upshift technique is to help alleviate accidents due to loss of directional control arising for engine braking, why not just have a SNOW mode that can be activated by the driver, by a rain sensor, or if the OAT hovers around or below freezing?

Upon a full lift-throttle event in SNOW mode the transaxle would remain in the same gear ratio (ready to SURGE forward on command) but the engine RPM, via DBW, would not be allowed to fall enough to provide a significant level of engine braking to the driven wheels, FRONT, rear, or ALL.

Absent being in SNOW mode the shift pattern could be the same as it was pre-2000, NO upshifting on full lift-throttle events.

No HIGH potential for engine braking, FRONT especially, to put your life at risk or interfere with ABS if the roadbed traction is satisfactory.

I guess on second thought ABS interference via engine braking might still be an issue. But that could addressed by keeping the upshift pattern but delaying it until the brakes are applied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->If you browse about your will find owner complaints of throttle lag or engine delay/hesitation for Ford, VW, Toyota, Lexus and others, all concerning vehicles with automatic transmissions and mostly FWD or front biased AWD vehicles.</p>
<p>It is my firm belief that sometime in the mid to late ninties someone, or some group, with TONS of clout over the automtive industry issued an edict that the safety of FWD and front torque biased AWD had to be brought  into line with their RWD and rear torque biased AWD brotheren.</p>
<p>My vote goes to the automotive insurance industry. Accident statistics most readily available, certainly with the CLOUT and enough synergy with the industry to want to keep this on the QT.</p>
<p>The safety issue involved the potential for loss of directional control due to engine braking, especially FRONT engine braking, in wintertime adverse roadbed conditions. There is also the issue of the potential for engine braking to interfere with ABS, again especially detrimental for FWD vehicles.</p>
<p>So, late in the last century the shift pattern/schedule was revised across the industry to address the safety issue. The new shift pattern dictated that anytime there was a FULL lift-throttle action by the driver the transaxle would be quickly upshifted so as to prevent any significant level of engine braking.</p>
<p>The problem that quickly arose from this change was that if the driver quickly returned to acceleration &#8220;mode&#8221; the engine was now at idle and the just previously commended upshift would deplete the ATF pressure/flow reserve. With little or no ATF pressure/flow available the subsequent downshift due to the driver&#8217;s re-application of pressure to the gas pedal could not be quickly completed.</p>
<p>As evidence of Lexus has now replaced a LOT of early RX300 transaxles.</p>
<p>By 2001 Lexus had figured out the problem and increased the displacement of the ATF oil pump, gear type oil pump, to provide more pressure/flow at engine idle.</p>
<p>So, the 2001 RX300&#8217;s, even with all equipped with the extra ATF cooling via the tow package, OVERHEATS the ATF to the point that the recommended traansaxle ATF service interval has declined from infinity (the life of the vehicle actually) to every 15,000 miles.</p>
<p>What to do, what to do&#8230;??</p>
<p>Oh, I know, let&#8217;s use DBW, e-throttle, to delay the onset of engine torque until the subsequent downshift can be completed, the clutches firmly seated.</p>
<p>So the RX330 used the old standard ATF gear pump displacement but was equipped with DBW &#8220;to protect the drive train&#8221;. </p>
<p>Regretably some one else in engineering had already decided that the VC, Viscous Clutch, in the AWD version was contributing to the overheating of the ATF and so it was removed, not to return until the advent of the RX350.</p>
<p>Is Lexus listening, do you suppose?</p>
<p>The final FIX&#8230;</p>
<p>SNOW mode&#8230;Assuming the new shift pattern upshift technique is to help alleviate accidents due to loss of directional control arising for engine braking, why not just have a SNOW mode that can be activated by the driver, by a rain sensor, or if the OAT hovers around or below freezing?</p>
<p>Upon a full lift-throttle event in SNOW mode the transaxle would remain in the same gear ratio (ready to SURGE forward on command) but the engine RPM, via DBW, would not be allowed to fall enough to provide a significant level of engine braking to the driven wheels, FRONT, rear, or ALL.</p>
<p>Absent being in SNOW mode the shift pattern could be the same as it was pre-2000, NO upshifting on full lift-throttle events.</p>
<p>No HIGH potential for engine braking, FRONT especially, to put your life at risk or interfere with ABS if the roadbed traction is satisfactory.</p>
<p>I guess on second thought ABS interference via engine braking might still be an issue. But that could addressed by keeping the upshift pattern but delaying it until the brakes are applied.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: cman321</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/mazda-speed6/comment-page-1/#comment-7575</link>
		<dc:creator>cman321</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 22:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not that car magazines mean much, but in Car and Drivers 02/06 Sedan comparo, the GLI came in 1st and the MS6 was 4th.  GLI was 0-60 in 6.4 and MS6 was 5.4.   C&amp;D wrote about the Gli handling &quot;What a hoot to drive,&quot; wrote one tester. &quot;This is what the GLI is built for.&quot;

&quot;This is a terrific car on the driving loop,&quot; wrote another. &quot;Easy to get pinpoint location in corners and squirts out of &#039;em with great gusto.&quot;

Another scribbler summed it up: &quot;On the Hocking Hills loop, this car rules ! Eager turn-in, nice balance, great grip, good power, outstanding steering.&quot;

To be fair, the Mazda was its equal on the twisties, but the Jetta&#039;s feline responses were complemented by smoother ride quality and an exhaust note that was sporty rather than raucous&quot;

Better refinement with near equal handling/performance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->not that car magazines mean much, but in Car and Drivers 02/06 Sedan comparo, the GLI came in 1st and the MS6 was 4th.  GLI was 0-60 in 6.4 and MS6 was 5.4.   C&amp;D wrote about the Gli handling &#8220;What a hoot to drive,&#8221; wrote one tester. &#8220;This is what the GLI is built for.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;This is a terrific car on the driving loop,&#8221; wrote another. &#8220;Easy to get pinpoint location in corners and squirts out of &#8216;em with great gusto.&#8221;</p>
<p>Another scribbler summed it up: &#8220;On the Hocking Hills loop, this car rules ! Eager turn-in, nice balance, great grip, good power, outstanding steering.&#8221;</p>
<p>To be fair, the Mazda was its equal on the twisties, but the Jetta&#8217;s feline responses were complemented by smoother ride quality and an exhaust note that was sporty rather than raucous&#8221;</p>
<p>Better refinement with near equal handling/performance.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Jonny Lieberman</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/mazda-speed6/comment-page-1/#comment-7573</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonny Lieberman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 22:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Under 7? That&#039;s why it doesn&#039;t compete.

Put 30,000 miles on the Mazda and it will be pretty close to 5 seconds flat.

The GLI is just not in the smae class. Especially in terms of handling.</description>
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<p>Put 30,000 miles on the Mazda and it will be pretty close to 5 seconds flat.</p>
<p>The GLI is just not in the smae class. Especially in terms of handling.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: cman321</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/mazda-speed6/comment-page-1/#comment-7564</link>
		<dc:creator>cman321</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 21:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why doesn&#039;t the VW Jetta GLI compete.  A GLI is the same as a GTI except it has a trunk (and 100 more lbs of weight).

My GLI has 18&quot; summer tires and handles very well.  I enjoy the handling more than my previous 350z.  It may not have pure speed of MS6, but it as less lag and a more tractable engine.  Still 0-60 in under 7 seconds.

If you want more speed, buy the $500 chip for and extra 50hp.

Again MS6 is a very sporty car in an aggressive style way (similar, but not quite as extreme as boy racer STIs and EVOs).  I just value the german refinement over all out speed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Why doesn&#8217;t the VW Jetta GLI compete.  A GLI is the same as a GTI except it has a trunk (and 100 more lbs of weight).</p>
<p>My GLI has 18&#8243; summer tires and handles very well.  I enjoy the handling more than my previous 350z.  It may not have pure speed of MS6, but it as less lag and a more tractable engine.  Still 0-60 in under 7 seconds.</p>
<p>If you want more speed, buy the $500 chip for and extra 50hp.</p>
<p>Again MS6 is a very sporty car in an aggressive style way (similar, but not quite as extreme as boy racer STIs and EVOs).  I just value the german refinement over all out speed.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Jonny Lieberman</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/mazda-speed6/comment-page-1/#comment-7535</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonny Lieberman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 20:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GLI?

Or GTI?

cause... the GLI does not compete with this rocket.

Agreed on all your other points. But... crude can be good.</description>
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<p>Or GTI?</p>
<p>cause&#8230; the GLI does not compete with this rocket.</p>
<p>Agreed on all your other points. But&#8230; crude can be good.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: cman321</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/mazda-speed6/comment-page-1/#comment-7488</link>
		<dc:creator>cman321</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the car is a great deal at $8k off prices.  But that also tells me there is a reason for why the car isn&#039;t selling well. 

I drove the car and i would consider it for these low prices.  But I found car overall to be a bit crude.  The shifter and clutch action were not very smooth, the power delivery and engine note were not very refined, and the interior/exterior design where average.

I choose the VW GLI instead b/c of these refinement issues.</description>
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<p>I drove the car and i would consider it for these low prices.  But I found car overall to be a bit crude.  The shifter and clutch action were not very smooth, the power delivery and engine note were not very refined, and the interior/exterior design where average.</p>
<p>I choose the VW GLI instead b/c of these refinement issues.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: phil_hallenbeck</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Aug 2006 23:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good review, Jonny, and obviously thought-provoking (even just by counting the number of responses)!  Looks like an interesting machine...if I was in the market for a sedan I would sure give it a look and a drive!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Good review, Jonny, and obviously thought-provoking (even just by counting the number of responses)!  Looks like an interesting machine&#8230;if I was in the market for a sedan I would sure give it a look and a drive!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Terry Parkhurst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Parkhurst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Aug 2006 07:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Jonny, you sure do make the Mazda Speed6 sound alluring; and you make it come alive. I reminds me of some of the high-powered - abeit in a very crude and fuel-inefficient way - American sedans and hard-tops of the late 1950s and &#039;60s, I see at auction. The Mazda is akin to an updated 1966 Chevrolet Caprice sedan with a 396 cid V8 - with much better brakes.
 The &quot;muscle car&quot; lives in the 21st Century and it seems to be coming to America from Hiroshima.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Wow Jonny, you sure do make the Mazda Speed6 sound alluring; and you make it come alive. I reminds me of some of the high-powered &#8211; abeit in a very crude and fuel-inefficient way &#8211; American sedans and hard-tops of the late 1950s and &#8217;60s, I see at auction. The Mazda is akin to an updated 1966 Chevrolet Caprice sedan with a 396 cid V8 &#8211; with much better brakes.<br />
 The &#8220;muscle car&#8221; lives in the 21st Century and it seems to be coming to America from Hiroshima.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Jonny Lieberman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonny Lieberman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Aug 2006 12:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s some initial FWD-platform weirdness when you turn the wheel, but that is quickly forgotten.

If you added 400 pounds to your WRX, that&#039;s the steering</description>
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		<title>By: zipper69</title>
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		<dc:creator>zipper69</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Aug 2006 09:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I hadn&#039;t seen the title I would have taken it as a steroided Volvo, sure looks like it - might be fun to &quot;badge engineer&quot; some Volvo stickers and add &quot;C70WXR&quot;...</description>
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		<title>By: doublechili</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/mazda-speed6/comment-page-1/#comment-7210</link>
		<dc:creator>doublechili</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Aug 2006 03:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed the review. Keep them coming with the AWD performance bargains. And witty is good. Most other places I read just the first and last couple of paragraphs of car reviews, because everything in between is like reading a mortgage.

Jonny, where would you say the car&#039;s steering feedback falls between, say, a 911 and a video game?</description>
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		<title>By: Jonny Lieberman</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Aug 2006 01:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: the pedals.

Very pretty to look at.

Very bad for heeling and toeing.

I have a Miata right now and my daily drive is a WRX -- both cars feature perfectly set up pedals, the Miata even more so.</description>
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<p>Very pretty to look at.</p>
<p>Very bad for heeling and toeing.</p>
<p>I have a Miata right now and my daily drive is a WRX &#8212; both cars feature perfectly set up pedals, the Miata even more so.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Jeb Hoge</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/mazda-speed6/comment-page-1/#comment-7197</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeb Hoge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Aug 2006 01:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It was my understanding that the MS6 suffered badly from heatsoak.&quot;

That&#039;s just the hoons talking through their...hats. It&#039;s true that early MS6s were going into limp mode after getting flogged around, but the reality was that it was an overzealous ECU picking up too much data from a knock sensor and thinking that the engine was pinging. Apparently, all it takes to fix it up is a reflash and, of course, 93 octane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&#8220;It was my understanding that the MS6 suffered badly from heatsoak.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just the hoons talking through their&#8230;hats. It&#8217;s true that early MS6s were going into limp mode after getting flogged around, but the reality was that it was an overzealous ECU picking up too much data from a knock sensor and thinking that the engine was pinging. Apparently, all it takes to fix it up is a reflash and, of course, 93 octane.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: GodBlessTTAC</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/mazda-speed6/comment-page-1/#comment-7173</link>
		<dc:creator>GodBlessTTAC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 20:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Mazda seems to have two design languages â€” Japanese perfection (Mazda3, new MX-5) and toy-store overkill (RX-8, this guy).&quot;

hilarious!

seems like a steal, but i like old s8 types of monster cars</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&#8220;Mazda seems to have two design languages â€” Japanese perfection (Mazda3, new MX-5) and toy-store overkill (RX-8, this guy).&#8221;</p>
<p>hilarious!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve_S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve_S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 20:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was my understanding that the MS6 suffered badly from heatsoak. They should have just added a small scoop ala Legacy. I too would just pony up the extra green for a Legacy Spec B. The 07 version looks great and the 08 will be even better. If teh Spec B had been a little cheaper and out a of couple of months ago I might have gotten that instead of my RX8.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->It was my understanding that the MS6 suffered badly from heatsoak. They should have just added a small scoop ala Legacy. I too would just pony up the extra green for a Legacy Spec B. The 07 version looks great and the 08 will be even better. If teh Spec B had been a little cheaper and out a of couple of months ago I might have gotten that instead of my RX8.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: guyincognito</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/mazda-speed6/comment-page-1/#comment-7162</link>
		<dc:creator>guyincognito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 19:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I drove a MS6 when it first came out as well. I thought the car was great and didn&#039;t notice the turbo lag at all. Of course I was driving a somewhat less peppy Jag X type at the time. I personally like the styling as well, especially in black on black. After the drive I was ready to trade the Jag in and lease it right then, until the dealer refused to budge on the $3K down $499/month 48 month lease offer (even after crunching the numbers on his pocket calculator a few times). Seemed a bit steep compared to my $0 down $37K all maintenance included Audi TT lease for the same price and duration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I drove a MS6 when it first came out as well. I thought the car was great and didn&#8217;t notice the turbo lag at all. Of course I was driving a somewhat less peppy Jag X type at the time. I personally like the styling as well, especially in black on black. After the drive I was ready to trade the Jag in and lease it right then, until the dealer refused to budge on the $3K down $499/month 48 month lease offer (even after crunching the numbers on his pocket calculator a few times). Seemed a bit steep compared to my $0 down $37K all maintenance included Audi TT lease for the same price and duration.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: qfrog</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/mazda-speed6/comment-page-1/#comment-7154</link>
		<dc:creator>qfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 18:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I think of the mazda 6 one thing comes to mind... tail lamps. OH the tail lamps are heinous, bulbous and protrusive in appearance. Mazda did the same little swish with an ugly switch to the mazda 3. I actually like much of the exterior design of both.... not as they stand alone but in comparative light to the other things japan has to offer. The camry looks like a fish, nissans look butchly chiseled, Honda hmmm blah bla bla comes to mind, mitsubishi makes a buick galant iirc.

Mazda... less ugly by comparison, but not pretty on our own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->When I think of the mazda 6 one thing comes to mind&#8230; tail lamps. OH the tail lamps are heinous, bulbous and protrusive in appearance. Mazda did the same little swish with an ugly switch to the mazda 3. I actually like much of the exterior design of both&#8230;. not as they stand alone but in comparative light to the other things japan has to offer. The camry looks like a fish, nissans look butchly chiseled, Honda hmmm blah bla bla comes to mind, mitsubishi makes a buick galant iirc.</p>
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		<title>By: socsndaisy</title>
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		<dc:creator>socsndaisy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 18:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Johnny, 
    All in all, a reasonably fair review but I have two requests of you:

1-   please see a black or black cherry version of this car in person...with the black only interior (ditto on that funky white/black)

2-   Try a quick test spin with 93 octane like the manual specs.    The ECU doesnt give you the good stuff without it.   If you have to wait for 3500 rpm you are right smack in the middle of the boost country and should have permagrin by then.   As a matter of fact, she runs out of breath at 4800.   Yes, its night and day without 93.   
    Curiously, you are the first reviewer Ive heard complain of the pedal layout.   Most, including myself, find it perfect.    Oh, and the Pirellis are not OEM, they should be Bridgestone RE050A (vastly superior and quite quiet as well, I should know, Im running Pzeros on my Speed6 currently)   And yeah, I get 27-29 mpg consistently (a long way from WRX country in that dept).   
   
   Its a polarizing design, certainly not for everybody.   For me, its nothing but goodtimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Johnny,<br />
    All in all, a reasonably fair review but I have two requests of you:</p>
<p>1-   please see a black or black cherry version of this car in person&#8230;with the black only interior (ditto on that funky white/black)</p>
<p>2-   Try a quick test spin with 93 octane like the manual specs.    The ECU doesnt give you the good stuff without it.   If you have to wait for 3500 rpm you are right smack in the middle of the boost country and should have permagrin by then.   As a matter of fact, she runs out of breath at 4800.   Yes, its night and day without 93.<br />
    Curiously, you are the first reviewer Ive heard complain of the pedal layout.   Most, including myself, find it perfect.    Oh, and the Pirellis are not OEM, they should be Bridgestone RE050A (vastly superior and quite quiet as well, I should know, Im running Pzeros on my Speed6 currently)   And yeah, I get 27-29 mpg consistently (a long way from WRX country in that dept).   </p>
<p>   Its a polarizing design, certainly not for everybody.   For me, its nothing but goodtimes.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Jonny Lieberman</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/mazda-speed6/comment-page-1/#comment-7132</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonny Lieberman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good catch -- should read mid-sized four door</description>
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		<title>By: 2006300c</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/mazda-speed6/comment-page-1/#comment-7130</link>
		<dc:creator>2006300c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since when is a 2.3 considered a mid-sized motor? what does that make a 3.5 or a 5.7?</description>
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		<title>By: Jonny Lieberman</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/mazda-speed6/comment-page-1/#comment-7124</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonny Lieberman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>modspell,

you posted what I was going to.

Those pictures do the car great justice.

I parked it next to a regular 6 and this dude is just a mutant.

Mazda seems to have two design languages -- Japanese perfection (Mazda3, new MX-5) and toy-store overkill (RX-8, this guy).</description>
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<p>you posted what I was going to.</p>
<p>Those pictures do the car great justice.</p>
<p>I parked it next to a regular 6 and this dude is just a mutant.</p>
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		<title>By: modspell</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/mazda-speed6/comment-page-1/#comment-7123</link>
		<dc:creator>modspell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trust me, it&#039;s an awkward looking car, more so than the photos reveal. This photographer is a professional, and deserves to be highly paid. The worst element are the wheels, as they look like 1960&#039;s Christmas tree decorations.</description>
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