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	<title>Comments on: Lexus Busted For Greenwash Lies. Again.</title>
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		<title>By: the duke</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/lexus-busted-for-greenwash-lies-again/comment-page-1/#comment-799462</link>
		<dc:creator>the duke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm.  I&#039;m not a big fan of Toyota, or their holier-than-thou attitudes with the hybrids, but this scares me.

This ad was pulled because they embellished facts?  Well based on that there should be no advertising for cars at all.  Or advertising in general.  

No, what we have here is the Green Police on patrol whitewashing everyones minds with what can be published.  If a claim is BS, people should judge for themselves.  If stupid peolple believe the claim and buy the car, they deserve to be suckered.  The rest of us can ignore it.

People complain about the Patriot act but Britain has removed even more civil liberties.  First its advertising.  Then editorials are censored.  Where does it stop?  In stead of laughing at Toyota we should all be outraged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Hmm.  I&#8217;m not a big fan of Toyota, or their holier-than-thou attitudes with the hybrids, but this scares me.</p>
<p>This ad was pulled because they embellished facts?  Well based on that there should be no advertising for cars at all.  Or advertising in general.  </p>
<p>No, what we have here is the Green Police on patrol whitewashing everyones minds with what can be published.  If a claim is BS, people should judge for themselves.  If stupid peolple believe the claim and buy the car, they deserve to be suckered.  The rest of us can ignore it.</p>
<p>People complain about the Patriot act but Britain has removed even more civil liberties.  First its advertising.  Then editorials are censored.  Where does it stop?  In stead of laughing at Toyota we should all be outraged.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Raskolnikov</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/lexus-busted-for-greenwash-lies-again/comment-page-1/#comment-799402</link>
		<dc:creator>Raskolnikov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel like Nelson on &quot;The Simpsons.&quot;

I just want to point at Lexus and say &quot;HA HA&quot; in that sing song voice of his.

Really though, I&#039;m amazed at what people raise hell about anymore.</description>
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<p>I just want to point at Lexus and say &#8220;HA HA&#8221; in that sing song voice of his.</p>
<p>Really though, I&#8217;m amazed at what people raise hell about anymore.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: 1996MEdition</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/lexus-busted-for-greenwash-lies-again/comment-page-1/#comment-799101</link>
		<dc:creator>1996MEdition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Death to the offenders.....they produce more CO2 with every breathe the exhale.

By sitting on my couch and watching football all weekend, I have reduced my CO2 emissions by not breathing as much.....althought there is the trade off of additional nitrogen expellation due to the beer and chili-cheese nachos.  Can I advertise myself as green on dating websites now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Death to the offenders&#8230;..they produce more CO2 with every breathe the exhale.</p>
<p>By sitting on my couch and watching football all weekend, I have reduced my CO2 emissions by not breathing as much&#8230;..althought there is the trade off of additional nitrogen expellation due to the beer and chili-cheese nachos.  Can I advertise myself as green on dating websites now?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: brush</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/lexus-busted-for-greenwash-lies-again/comment-page-1/#comment-798792</link>
		<dc:creator>brush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 07:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps though, the govenment(s) could mandate this tree planting for every vehicle sold. Just imagine planting enough trees to offset your SUV emissions then plant some more to get &quot;green&quot; credits against the fuel consumption in future. Then you can hafe CAFE and CATP Corporate Average Tree Planting. Then turn the trees into E85 to fuel your vehicles into the future. Utopia is within reach!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Perhaps though, the govenment(s) could mandate this tree planting for every vehicle sold. Just imagine planting enough trees to offset your SUV emissions then plant some more to get &#8220;green&#8221; credits against the fuel consumption in future. Then you can hafe CAFE and CATP Corporate Average Tree Planting. Then turn the trees into E85 to fuel your vehicles into the future. Utopia is within reach!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Landcrusher</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/lexus-busted-for-greenwash-lies-again/comment-page-1/#comment-798751</link>
		<dc:creator>Landcrusher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 05:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>joeaverage,

You made me laugh out loud. Hope I didn&#039;t wake up the wife. Schoedenfreude (sp?) is a vice, but its one of the more forgivable ones.

If there is any infringement on free speech that I could ever stomach, it would be truth in advertising. Of course, I would vote against having he government regulate it, but its easy to think it might be a good thing.</description>
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<p>You made me laugh out loud. Hope I didn&#8217;t wake up the wife. Schoedenfreude (sp?) is a vice, but its one of the more forgivable ones.</p>
<p>If there is any infringement on free speech that I could ever stomach, it would be truth in advertising. Of course, I would vote against having he government regulate it, but its easy to think it might be a good thing.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: brush</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/lexus-busted-for-greenwash-lies-again/comment-page-1/#comment-798321</link>
		<dc:creator>brush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 23:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even the mighty GM (via Holden) is loose with the truth (surprise, surprise, surprise!) GreenwashOz

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24368862-26017,00.html

CAR giant GM Holden will retrain marketing staff and plant 12,500 trees to make amends after being found guilty of running a misleading green marketing campaign last year.

The Federal Court yesterday found GM Holden had breached the Trade Practices Act with its &quot;Grrrreen&quot; campaign, which made false and misleading claims about new Saab cars sold between July and September last year. 

Holden&#039;s Saab ads claimed the company had planted enough trees to offset the greenhouse emissions for the entire life of the vehicle, but in reality it had only planted 17trees per car, enough for the first year. The offending ads claimed &quot;every Saab is green, with carbon emissions neutral across the entire Saab range&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Even the mighty GM (via Holden) is loose with the truth (surprise, surprise, surprise!) GreenwashOz</p>
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<p>CAR giant GM Holden will retrain marketing staff and plant 12,500 trees to make amends after being found guilty of running a misleading green marketing campaign last year.</p>
<p>The Federal Court yesterday found GM Holden had breached the Trade Practices Act with its &#8220;Grrrreen&#8221; campaign, which made false and misleading claims about new Saab cars sold between July and September last year. </p>
<p>Holden&#8217;s Saab ads claimed the company had planted enough trees to offset the greenhouse emissions for the entire life of the vehicle, but in reality it had only planted 17trees per car, enough for the first year. The offending ads claimed &#8220;every Saab is green, with carbon emissions neutral across the entire Saab range&#8221;.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: JoeEgo</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/lexus-busted-for-greenwash-lies-again/comment-page-1/#comment-798171</link>
		<dc:creator>JoeEgo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the real problem: the four people complaining thought the only emissions should be unicorn farts.  Unfortunately, the UK Advertising Authority can&#039;t countenance a controversial ad!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->That&#8217;s the real problem: the four people complaining thought the only emissions should be unicorn farts.  Unfortunately, the UK Advertising Authority can&#8217;t countenance a controversial ad!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Stingray</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/lexus-busted-for-greenwash-lies-again/comment-page-1/#comment-798082</link>
		<dc:creator>Stingray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;arapaima :

I think unicorn farts are are in there too quasimondo.&lt;/em&gt;

Do they smell like roses?

Guilt has always been a marketing tactic with Toyota... here it was usually the &quot;quality&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>arapaima :</p>
<p>I think unicorn farts are are in there too quasimondo.</em></p>
<p>Do they smell like roses?</p>
<p>Guilt has always been a marketing tactic with Toyota&#8230; here it was usually the &#8220;quality&#8221;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jkross22</title>
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		<dc:creator>jkross22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Four people complain and that forces Lexus to pull the ad?  I&#039;m no Lexus fan, but jeez, those four people need to get a life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Four people complain and that forces Lexus to pull the ad?  I&#8217;m no Lexus fan, but jeez, those four people need to get a life.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: arapaima</title>
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		<dc:creator>arapaima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think unicorn farts are are in there too quasimondo.</description>
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		<title>By: quasimondo</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/lexus-busted-for-greenwash-lies-again/comment-page-1/#comment-797761</link>
		<dc:creator>quasimondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But it&#039;s a hybrid, and the tailpipe emissions from hybrids consist solely of pollen and petals.  Right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->But it&#8217;s a hybrid, and the tailpipe emissions from hybrids consist solely of pollen and petals.  Right?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: joeaverage</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/lexus-busted-for-greenwash-lies-again/comment-page-1/#comment-797632</link>
		<dc:creator>joeaverage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like watching a house cat misjudge a jump...</description>
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		<title>By: Casual Observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Casual Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guilt.  Always an effective marketing strategy.

I think by saying, &quot;perfect for today&#039;s climate (and tomorrow&#039;s)&quot;, they meant that the air conditioning was improved to fight warmer temperatures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Guilt.  Always an effective marketing strategy.</p>
<p>I think by saying, &#8220;perfect for today&#8217;s climate (and tomorrow&#8217;s)&#8221;, they meant that the air conditioning was improved to fight warmer temperatures.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Stingray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stingray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You just can love when this things happens to these guys =)</description>
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