Comments on: Is There SwiftFuel in Your Future? http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/is-there-swiftfuel-in-your-future/ The Truth About Cars is dedicated to providing candid, unbiased automobile reviews and the latest in auto industry news. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:36:31 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: gawdodirt http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/is-there-swiftfuel-in-your-future/comment-page-1/#comment-492732 gawdodirt Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:08:32 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/is-there-swiftfuel-in-your-future/#comment-492732 I'll stick with Algal (algae?) alternatives thank you. I'm an ugly American driving a huge diesel crew cab sending fear into the heart of every "Smart car" driver. And algae is a smarter bet since our truckers deliver food with diesel. (Duh?) Deliverable cost effective commodities? I’ll stick with Algal (algae?) alternatives thank you. I’m an ugly American driving a huge diesel crew cab sending fear into the heart of every “Smart car” driver.

And algae is a smarter bet since our truckers deliver food with diesel. (Duh?)

Deliverable cost effective commodities?

]]> By: EJ_San_Fran http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/is-there-swiftfuel-in-your-future/comment-page-1/#comment-492702 EJ_San_Fran Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:03:07 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/is-there-swiftfuel-in-your-future/#comment-492702 Indeed, cellulosic biofuel and synthetic gasoline are promising, especially with $4/gallon gas. However, all of such solutions require gigantic investments to reach scale, so "overnight" really means decades. Indeed, cellulosic biofuel and synthetic gasoline are promising, especially with $4/gallon gas.

However, all of such solutions require gigantic investments to reach scale, so “overnight” really means decades.

]]> By: Stephan Wilkinson http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/is-there-swiftfuel-in-your-future/comment-page-1/#comment-492441 Stephan Wilkinson Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:15:03 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/is-there-swiftfuel-in-your-future/#comment-492441 What faster-than-rabbit said. As a pilot, I've been amused in the past by his naivete when discussing aviation, about which at least at the time he didn't seem to know much more than the rankest new private pilot. What faster-than-rabbit said. As a pilot, I’ve been amused in the past by his naivete when discussing aviation, about which at least at the time he didn’t seem to know much more than the rankest new private pilot.

]]> By: menno http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/is-there-swiftfuel-in-your-future/comment-page-1/#comment-492151 menno Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:24:13 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/is-there-swiftfuel-in-your-future/#comment-492151 If this is simply 4-carbon alcohol, it is not ethanol but Butanol. Butanol exhibits many of the same characteristics as described in this "SwiftFuel" except that it's natural octane (as would be seen at the auto gas pump) is 87 (exactly the same as regular unleaded, coincidentally). Unless octane is rated differently for aviation fuel (which may be the case). Butanol can be made with anything with sugar in it. Look for yourselves. www.butanol.com Also BP is starting to develop butanol with a mere strapling company that nobody's ever heard of - DuPont. OK I lied, maybe you've heard of them. If this is simply 4-carbon alcohol, it is not ethanol but Butanol.

Butanol exhibits many of the same characteristics as described in this “SwiftFuel” except that it’s natural octane (as would be seen at the auto gas pump) is 87 (exactly the same as regular unleaded, coincidentally). Unless octane is rated differently for aviation fuel (which may be the case).

Butanol can be made with anything with sugar in it. Look for yourselves. http://www.butanol.com

Also BP is starting to develop butanol with a mere strapling company that nobody’s ever heard of – DuPont. OK I lied, maybe you’ve heard of them.

]]> By: faster_than_rabbit http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/is-there-swiftfuel-in-your-future/comment-page-1/#comment-492041 faster_than_rabbit Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:55:32 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/is-there-swiftfuel-in-your-future/#comment-492041 Cringely, while often interesting, is not particularly well known for background knowledge or accuracy. I would take this with more than a grain of salt until we have independent peer-reviewed confirmation. Cringely, while often interesting, is not particularly well known for background knowledge or accuracy. I would take this with more than a grain of salt until we have independent peer-reviewed confirmation.

]]> By: John Horner http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/is-there-swiftfuel-in-your-future/comment-page-1/#comment-492021 John Horner Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:49:20 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/is-there-swiftfuel-in-your-future/#comment-492021 If a biofuel can really be developed with six times the productivity per acre of corn ethanol then it might work. The problem with corn ethanol is that it is a very inefficient fuel, but then a 1908 internal combustion engine was a highly inefficient beast as well. If a biofuel can really be developed with six times the productivity per acre of corn ethanol then it might work. The problem with corn ethanol is that it is a very inefficient fuel, but then a 1908 internal combustion engine was a highly inefficient beast as well.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/is-there-swiftfuel-in-your-future/comment-page-1/#comment-491721 Kevin Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:56:44 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/is-there-swiftfuel-in-your-future/#comment-491721 At least he recognizes something that few people ever acknowledge when touting or criticizing some alt-fuel -- that's the huge installed based of cars versus the small rollout of new ones. At least he recognizes something that few people ever acknowledge when touting or criticizing some alt-fuel — that’s the huge installed based of cars versus the small rollout of new ones.

]]> By: N85523 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/is-there-swiftfuel-in-your-future/comment-page-1/#comment-491622 N85523 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:38:33 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/is-there-swiftfuel-in-your-future/#comment-491622 I've heard of this fellow and his attmepts to replace 100LL avgas which is a wonderful fuel with a bleak looking future. Though I think that biofuels are a step in the wrong direction, for the sake of the aviation community, I'm skeptically optimistic. I’ve heard of this fellow and his attmepts to replace 100LL avgas which is a wonderful fuel with a bleak looking future. Though I think that biofuels are a step in the wrong direction, for the sake of the aviation community, I’m skeptically optimistic.

]]> By: Justin Berkowitz http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/is-there-swiftfuel-in-your-future/comment-page-1/#comment-491501 Justin Berkowitz Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:56:54 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/is-there-swiftfuel-in-your-future/#comment-491501 I'm skeptical because I'm cynical (realistic?), but interested. I await the bunking and debunking. I’m skeptical because I’m cynical (realistic?), but interested. I await the bunking and debunking.

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