Comments on: Hyundai Accidentally Reveals 2 V6 Engines for Genesis Sedan?

By: golden2husky

golden2husky — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 13:47:16 +0000

I think that even though there is not much difference on paper, in the real work there may be a bigger difference. Play with those 290 horses and mileage will drop like a rock. Look at the G35. Anybody who plays with the loud pedal get atrocious mileage. And if you have the power, its hard not to play with it…

By: John Horner

John Horner — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 03:12:12 +0000

“So why bother?”

To hit multiple price points. In days of old there were often four to six engine/carb configurations available in run of the mill Galaxy 500s and Impalas. Profits on the low spec ones were much less than on the high spec ones, but you offer the widest range possible in order to attract the most customers. At least that is how things used to be done. Now in the US many cars have only one or two engine options.

By: SupaMan

SupaMan — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 21:56:39 +0000

But that doesn’t make any sense. It’s almost like the Pontiac G8 in a way. The V8 offer’s pretty much the same mileage (or better) than the smaller V6. So why bother?

By: RedStapler

RedStapler — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 18:50:02 +0000

It could also be that they have limited production capacity for the 3.8 and if sales take off they can offer the lower trims with the 3.3.

By: menno

menno — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:47:10 +0000

Nope. Canadian information off the Hyundai website shows 3.8 V6 and V8, only.

http://www.hyundaigenesis.ca/media/Genesis_ProductCard_EN.pdf

By: menno

menno — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:26:52 +0000

I wonder if the 3.3 will be sold in Canada only, and they just ran it through the EPA so it could be certified for sale in Canada? It may be easier than running the car through the hoops in Canada’s testing, and this way, if they choose to make a marketing decision to offer a lower-rent version with a slightly smaller engine, they can do the 3.3 in the states at the stroke of a key on keyboard – and the appropriate cars would be on the next boat with MPH speedos for the US.

Besides which, I suspect they’ll get 260-265 hp out of the 3.3 for the Genesis, since it is a higher line vehicle and they might be able to use a higher cost CPU and engine control system, perhaps tweak the engine with better breathing (since the car has the engine north-south and sits lower under the hood, it can make for less restrictive intake and exhaust manifolding), plus they can alter the cam lift, duration and timing for more power, too.

Ooops. The Korean Hyundai website actually gives details on the Korean specifications (no, I can’t read Korean, but I can read “PS” then convert it to “HP” online) but the web page is taking for bloody ever to load, if it will load.

I’ll let everyone know if I can find the actual PS of the Genesis 3.3 motor (though it’d be South Korean spec, so might not equate precisely to US spec).

By: cRaCk_hEaD_aLLey

cRaCk_hEaD_aLLey — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:25:40 +0000

Where is the 1.6 SOHC 2-valver 4-banger? This is the one I will be able to afford!!

By: Michael Karesh

Michael Karesh — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 14:54:11 +0000

The 3.3 has been mentioned in press material for the car before.

Three possibilities:

1. I’ve heard before that they initially planned to offer the 3.3, then changed their minds. But the EPA testing happened already.

2. I believe powertrains intended only for Canada are also tested by the EPA. Does Canada get the 3.3?

3. They’re holding the 3.3 in the wings in case they need a less expensive or more fuel efficient engine to meet their sales goals.

By: Brendino

Brendino — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 14:53:40 +0000

How much money would you save by throwing in the Sonata engine? 1 MPG ain’t much but if it shaves a grand off the MSRP then maybe you’re on to something.

Does anyone know about engine costs? Cause I certainly don’t.

By: seoultrain

seoultrain — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 14:51:11 +0000

With such a small difference in fuel economy, no wonder they’ll probably leave the 3.3 out. There’s no need for another engine choice unless it offers something completely different from the other 2 powertrains (i.e. hybrid or diesel). 40 less horsepower, 1 more mpg city, and slightly less cost is not enough to warrant the choice.

Now how about turbocharging that V8 to take on the M5?