Comments on: Honda’s Clarity Fuels Hydrogen Hype

By: xias

xias — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:34:31 +0000

I think there’s a lot of consumer support for hydrogen technology. Whether Honda will be able to control the costs and other problems associated with the new FCX remains to be seen. If improvements to the Prius are any indication, however, I’d expect we’ll see a significant number of improvements to performance and costs in the coming years.

By: Martin Schwoerer

Martin Schwoerer — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:47:10 +0000

@bfg9k:”I’ve seen estimates that a nationwide hydrogen fueling infrastructure could be built for $40 billion (about 4 months of Iraq war spending)”

I thought the war cost only one billion a month?

Anyway, I would think that the really revolutionary aspect of this car is the ventilated seats. One important (and under-reported) reason why people don’t like public transport, and don’t like carpools, is flatulance.

A great thing about being alone in your vehicle is that you can let it rip. The new seats would greatly facilitate carpools, and thus help reduce traffic and global warming.

By: Perkins

Perkins — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:44:01 +0000

canfood:

I think that GM is fairly serious about hydrogen, please check out this link

By: ihatetrees

ihatetrees — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:36:43 +0000

Couldn’t Mr Lieberman have written a review? Or is he not a free agent?

I’d like to know if fuel cell vehicles can have a button that has “valves open in the mufflers, changing the sound from Howard Dean’s scream to Gunnery Sgt. Hartman showing Joker his war face.”

By: Guzzi

Guzzi — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:01:05 +0000

I thought you guys broke up?!?

By: Sajeev Mehta

Sajeev Mehta — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:47:49 +0000

This podcast is hilarious. Thermal butt sensor!

By: lewissalem

lewissalem — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:34:57 +0000

I’ve got a deposit down on a Tesla, and a “Year 2k” bunker so this is great news to me.

By: tankd0g

tankd0g — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:27:52 +0000

And just like electric vehicles, unless you have a garage to install this fueling station, you’re SOL, which means folks in aparment buildings will see little use in purchasing a car like this.

Actually it would be very cost effective for Honda to give several of these to people int he same building and install one filling station.

By: canfood

canfood — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:56:27 +0000

well at least Honda is at least trying to put cars on the road. I’m reminded of GM’s Hy-wire car which continued the long tradition of concepts that don’t go anywhere.

kind of demonstrates which companies are serious about giving hydrogen fuel cells a shot and which aren’t.

for laughs here’s a trip down memory lane.
GM’s hydrogen salvation

By: guyincognito

guyincognito — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:48:48 +0000

@bfg9k

The congressional study of the impact of studying the impact of changing to a hydrogen fuelling infrastructure will cost more than $40B.

By: Mirko Reinhardt

Mirko Reinhardt — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:41:35 +0000

“On the back of your house…you’re emitting natural gas vapors”
The most part of which is… CO2 and water.

“Leaking water… unlike a normal car”
Really? Gasoline is a hydrocarbon, so the carbon part combines with air oxygen to become CO2, while the hydrogen in the gasoline combines with air oxygen to become…

…dihydrogen monoxide?

By: quasimondo

quasimondo — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:24:18 +0000

And just like electric vehicles, unless you have a garage to install this fueling station, you’re SOL, which means folks in aparment buildings will see little use in purchasing a car like this.

By: Wulv

Wulv — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:05:36 +0000

This is an interesting strategy by Honda to get the Fuel Cell ball a rolling. By doing the Car leasing, and Home Fueling stations, they aren’t waiting on the infrastructure to be developed before they roll out the product. I guess it parallels the pure electric vehicle without charging stations at work etc.

By: Glenn Swanson

Glenn Swanson — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:57:05 +0000

How does driving the Honda FCX Clarity compare to driving the ~~GM Volt~~…~~Telsa roadster~~…

Never mind.

By: cgraham

cgraham — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:35:38 +0000

Johnny, I understand that you didn’t fill it up but, if you were to take it to that one gas (hydrogen) station, how much would it cost to fill up?

By: bfg9k

bfg9k — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:29:31 +0000

Texan Timothy Wilkins, an attorney for the firm Bracewell & Giuliani (yes, THAT Giuliani), warns that “producing hydrogen like the gasoline scale, to fully integrated in the vehicle fleet and [provide] the infrastructure for fueling stations will take one century.”

Bracewell & Giuliani is quoted in that article as specializing in environmental and energy regulation. I’ve seen estimates that a nationwide hydrogen fueling infrastructure could be built for $40 billion (about 4 months of Iraq war spending). That would hardly take 100 years.

Throw in a few dozen Gen IV nukes and bacteria-hydrogen plants for hydrogen production and we’ll all be stylin’ in our FCX’s.