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	<title>Comments on: Honda Fit Hits Dealer Lots, eBay; Now the Markups Begin</title>
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		<title>By: mikeolan</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikeolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice little car, but I sure wouldn&#039;t pay the markups for it. The new generation fixes why I thought the original was a stinker, but at 18k, I&#039;d *still* take the Mazda3. 

For anyone who thinks the (last) gen Fit is more fun to drive than the 3: If this wasn&#039;t a subjective category I&#039;d call you a liar. Below 40mph, the Fit is good (unless you&#039;ve got someone in the car OR it&#039;s a hill) , but on the highway it&#039;s anything but. I&#039;d take the Mazda3 for its competency in both and its far-superior steering. And its better driving position. And its better craftsmanship.

The Fit does provide super-nice cargo numbers, but its last iteration only made sense as a city car. The new version- with a smidgeon more horsepower and many of its faults addressed- should be interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Nice little car, but I sure wouldn&#8217;t pay the markups for it. The new generation fixes why I thought the original was a stinker, but at 18k, I&#8217;d *still* take the Mazda3. </p>
<p>For anyone who thinks the (last) gen Fit is more fun to drive than the 3: If this wasn&#8217;t a subjective category I&#8217;d call you a liar. Below 40mph, the Fit is good (unless you&#8217;ve got someone in the car OR it&#8217;s a hill) , but on the highway it&#8217;s anything but. I&#8217;d take the Mazda3 for its competency in both and its far-superior steering. And its better driving position. And its better craftsmanship.</p>
<p>The Fit does provide super-nice cargo numbers, but its last iteration only made sense as a city car. The new version- with a smidgeon more horsepower and many of its faults addressed- should be interesting.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ppellico</title>
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		<dc:creator>ppellico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look.
You Fit lovers will not be convinced by me, nor will you be able to convince me (at least not with whats been tossed out) that the Fit makes sense.
Look, here is what I will try to explain one last time:
There are better choices than the Fit that make me believe this is one of those runaway noone can explain the nothingness.
Sort of Obamarama in a car.

Examples:
Nissan Sentra.
Its a real car. 16,300 ,25/33/28 overall mpg.

Kia Rio and Rio5
11,00 to 13,000, 24/33/28 mpg.
Not comparable as a car you say?
Consumer Guide Automotive Best Buy 2007 - Subcompact Car 

Edmunds.com- &quot;Top 10 Most Fuel Efficient Cars.&quot; 

The Car Book. &quot;Best Bet.&quot;

Edmunds.com &quot;Editors&#039; Most Wanted Wagon Under $15,000&quot;

Greenercars.org, the online home of ACEEE&#039;s Green Book® - &quot;Top 12 Greenest Vehicles of 2007&quot;.

Then...
theres the Focus and Corolla...
I know none of you like them.
The are dull...not sporty.
Well, I think its all bullshit about the Fit sportiness as well.

But you get a whole lot more car, one that can take to to your kid&#039;s college and back without forcing a chiropractors appt.
They are both highly rated for comfort.
Both around 16K and great, great mpg.
26/35/29 Corolla, 24/33/28 Focus.

So go ahead and luv your Fit...but it doesn&#039;t make sense to me.
Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Look.<br />
You Fit lovers will not be convinced by me, nor will you be able to convince me (at least not with whats been tossed out) that the Fit makes sense.<br />
Look, here is what I will try to explain one last time:<br />
There are better choices than the Fit that make me believe this is one of those runaway noone can explain the nothingness.<br />
Sort of Obamarama in a car.</p>
<p>Examples:<br />
Nissan Sentra.<br />
Its a real car. 16,300 ,25/33/28 overall mpg.</p>
<p>Kia Rio and Rio5<br />
11,00 to 13,000, 24/33/28 mpg.<br />
Not comparable as a car you say?<br />
Consumer Guide Automotive Best Buy 2007 &#8211; Subcompact Car </p>
<p>Edmunds.com- &#8220;Top 10 Most Fuel Efficient Cars.&#8221; </p>
<p>The Car Book. &#8220;Best Bet.&#8221;</p>
<p>Edmunds.com &#8220;Editors&#8217; Most Wanted Wagon Under $15,000&#8243;</p>
<p>Greenercars.org, the online home of ACEEE&#8217;s Green Book® &#8211; &#8220;Top 12 Greenest Vehicles of 2007&#8243;.</p>
<p>Then&#8230;<br />
theres the Focus and Corolla&#8230;<br />
I know none of you like them.<br />
The are dull&#8230;not sporty.<br />
Well, I think its all bullshit about the Fit sportiness as well.</p>
<p>But you get a whole lot more car, one that can take to to your kid&#8217;s college and back without forcing a chiropractors appt.<br />
They are both highly rated for comfort.<br />
Both around 16K and great, great mpg.<br />
26/35/29 Corolla, 24/33/28 Focus.</p>
<p>So go ahead and luv your Fit&#8230;but it doesn&#8217;t make sense to me.<br />
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		<title>By: bjcpdx</title>
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		<dc:creator>bjcpdx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nudave:

I&#039;m afraid I didn&#039;t express myself very well.  I did not mean to say that the public was demanding that there &lt;em&gt;be&lt;/em&gt; a new model, but was referring to the fact that the new model is already back-ordered.

In any event, I agree with everything in your post.  I would never suggest that Honda is resting on its laurels.  Quite the contrary, it is one of the most forward-thinking car companies out there.  I have owned several including a 2005 Insight currently.  In fact, come to think of it, Honda is the only nameplate I&#039;ve bought more than one of.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;m afraid I didn&#8217;t express myself very well.  I did not mean to say that the public was demanding that there <em>be</em> a new model, but was referring to the fact that the new model is already back-ordered.</p>
<p>In any event, I agree with everything in your post.  I would never suggest that Honda is resting on its laurels.  Quite the contrary, it is one of the most forward-thinking car companies out there.  I have owned several including a 2005 Insight currently.  In fact, come to think of it, Honda is the only nameplate I&#8217;ve bought more than one of.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: rpn453</title>
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		<dc:creator>rpn453</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Funny that. I drove a midsized 4-cylinder Chevy Malibu sedan for about 500 miles round-trip and got 35mpg on the highway. Granted it was your average run-of-the-mill rental, but a subcompact shouldn’t be beaten in gas mileage by a much-taxed midsized rental car. Or are the new EPA mpg ratings that “broken”?&lt;/em&gt;

Seriously?  You actually don&#039;t understand that the EPA test procedure is different than the way you might drive?  The 4-cylinder Malibu is rated at 22/30, so you probably would have seen low 40s for mileage with the Fit under the same driving conditions.  Here&#039;s the remedial lesson from EPA on the subject:

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/why_differ.shtml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>Funny that. I drove a midsized 4-cylinder Chevy Malibu sedan for about 500 miles round-trip and got 35mpg on the highway. Granted it was your average run-of-the-mill rental, but a subcompact shouldn’t be beaten in gas mileage by a much-taxed midsized rental car. Or are the new EPA mpg ratings that “broken”?</em></p>
<p>Seriously?  You actually don&#8217;t understand that the EPA test procedure is different than the way you might drive?  The 4-cylinder Malibu is rated at 22/30, so you probably would have seen low 40s for mileage with the Fit under the same driving conditions.  Here&#8217;s the remedial lesson from EPA on the subject:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/why_differ.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/why_differ.shtml</a><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Mirko Reinhardt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mirko Reinhardt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@AG
&lt;i&gt;I prefer the European name: Jazz.&lt;/i&gt;

What about the European drivetrains? 1.2 and 1.4, no torque converter automatic.</description>
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<i>I prefer the European name: Jazz.</i></p>
<p>What about the European drivetrains? 1.2 and 1.4, no torque converter automatic.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: nudave</title>
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		<dc:creator>nudave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bjcpdx : 

If by that you mean clamoring for a new Fit, the answer is no - at least in North America.  

Since the old model is head and shoulders above its &quot;competition&quot; and Honda had no trouble selling every one of them, you could be excused for thinking Honda could just rest on its laurels.  However, that&#039;s not the Honda way.

They didn&#039;t get where they are by resting on their laurels, but rather by seeking continual improvement and refinement.

In addition, in markets where buyers are more sophisticated - such as Europe - the old current Fit/Jazz was seen as outdated and a bit of a fuddy-duddy car for old timers.

After all, over there, they are not competing against obsolete vehicles such as the Cobalt and NA Focus, but up to the minute superminis that Europeans demand.</description>
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<p>If by that you mean clamoring for a new Fit, the answer is no &#8211; at least in North America.  </p>
<p>Since the old model is head and shoulders above its &#8220;competition&#8221; and Honda had no trouble selling every one of them, you could be excused for thinking Honda could just rest on its laurels.  However, that&#8217;s not the Honda way.</p>
<p>They didn&#8217;t get where they are by resting on their laurels, but rather by seeking continual improvement and refinement.</p>
<p>In addition, in markets where buyers are more sophisticated &#8211; such as Europe &#8211; the old current Fit/Jazz was seen as outdated and a bit of a fuddy-duddy car for old timers.</p>
<p>After all, over there, they are not competing against obsolete vehicles such as the Cobalt and NA Focus, but up to the minute superminis that Europeans demand.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: foobar</title>
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		<dc:creator>foobar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, the comments here are unexpectedly full of Fit hate.  Who knew anyone disliked this car?  And just incidentally a lot of the claims about what vehicles get comparable mileage here are very implausible.  It&#039;s surprisingly easy to beat the EPA estimates on the Fit; with a light foot, but still cruising at 75, it achieves a consistent 36-37 highway mpg in my experience.  I doubt that the Mazda3, much less the Caliber (you seriously propose that as a Fit-beater? have you ever driven one?), can match that.

I do think the shortage story is being grossly overplayed, though -- at least in my neck of the woods it was no problem finding Fits to test-drive and getting quotes significantly below MSRP as of a month or two ago.  They do tend not to sit around on the lot for long, but there are deals still out there to be had.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Wow, the comments here are unexpectedly full of Fit hate.  Who knew anyone disliked this car?  And just incidentally a lot of the claims about what vehicles get comparable mileage here are very implausible.  It&#8217;s surprisingly easy to beat the EPA estimates on the Fit; with a light foot, but still cruising at 75, it achieves a consistent 36-37 highway mpg in my experience.  I doubt that the Mazda3, much less the Caliber (you seriously propose that as a Fit-beater? have you ever driven one?), can match that.</p>
<p>I do think the shortage story is being grossly overplayed, though &#8212; at least in my neck of the woods it was no problem finding Fits to test-drive and getting quotes significantly below MSRP as of a month or two ago.  They do tend not to sit around on the lot for long, but there are deals still out there to be had.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Subifreak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Subifreak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The e-bay one must have been sold.</description>
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		<title>By: bjcpdx</title>
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		<dc:creator>bjcpdx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Putting aside for a moment the relative merits of the Fit, when was the last time anyone saw the public clamoring for a new model?</description>
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		<title>By: ppellico</title>
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		<dc:creator>ppellico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>psarhjinian

Be real.
Especially next to the hatch 3????
I have driven the Fit and own 2 3s...its not even close.
If I sounded like the Fit wasn&#039;t sporty at all, then I appologize.
Its just not supposed to be compared to the Hatch3.
Really.
OK. compare it to the other econo crap traps out there and it looks good.
Even I look good if you carefully pick the line up!

I never drove those others you suggested.
I read enough on this and other sights to stay clear.

I guess I have trouble with some of the blending of these car categories.
To me they get awfully close (if not even overlapping) at the top and bottoms of each category and in the end, you would have been better off just getting more car for a couple thousand.
Or less.

And I need to dissagree with most when they say this thing looks good.
Well, not to me.
To me it looks unbalanced and uncool.
A sort of anvil body and nose.
Not that that means anything in the handling, its just everybody keeps touting its good looks.
Not to me.</description>
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<p>Be real.<br />
Especially next to the hatch 3????<br />
I have driven the Fit and own 2 3s&#8230;its not even close.<br />
If I sounded like the Fit wasn&#8217;t sporty at all, then I appologize.<br />
Its just not supposed to be compared to the Hatch3.<br />
Really.<br />
OK. compare it to the other econo crap traps out there and it looks good.<br />
Even I look good if you carefully pick the line up!</p>
<p>I never drove those others you suggested.<br />
I read enough on this and other sights to stay clear.</p>
<p>I guess I have trouble with some of the blending of these car categories.<br />
To me they get awfully close (if not even overlapping) at the top and bottoms of each category and in the end, you would have been better off just getting more car for a couple thousand.<br />
Or less.</p>
<p>And I need to dissagree with most when they say this thing looks good.<br />
Well, not to me.<br />
To me it looks unbalanced and uncool.<br />
A sort of anvil body and nose.<br />
Not that that means anything in the handling, its just everybody keeps touting its good looks.<br />
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		<title>By: iNeon</title>
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		<dc:creator>iNeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a Volvo DL wagon(2.3, RWD, true mid-size 4-Speed w/ OD manual) in the driveway that gets 28MPG highway. 

There is also a Dodge neon sport coupé in the driveway(2.0 DOHC, 5-Speed, compact class-- but the size of it&#039;s contemporary Accord) that I cannot abuse enough to get anything below 30MPG from. We&#039;re talking 100MPH+ drives for 60 miles, guys. 

This car is so small, the old ladies driving them make them look like toys. We&#039;re talking two 5-foot women, shoulder-to-shoulder, not two drag queens. 

The Caliber gets 1MPG less, costs less, is not unreliable, and fits more people with as much stuff. This is a non-contender except for those who think the Honda logo brings automotive nirvana. 

An automatic 2.4l Sebring is only at 3MPG less. What is this car&#039;s reason for being? 

The patriot 2.0 can drive through a puddle without falling in, and still matches this car&#039;s mileage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I have a Volvo DL wagon(2.3, RWD, true mid-size 4-Speed w/ OD manual) in the driveway that gets 28MPG highway. </p>
<p>There is also a Dodge neon sport coupé in the driveway(2.0 DOHC, 5-Speed, compact class&#8211; but the size of it&#8217;s contemporary Accord) that I cannot abuse enough to get anything below 30MPG from. We&#8217;re talking 100MPH+ drives for 60 miles, guys. </p>
<p>This car is so small, the old ladies driving them make them look like toys. We&#8217;re talking two 5-foot women, shoulder-to-shoulder, not two drag queens. </p>
<p>The Caliber gets 1MPG less, costs less, is not unreliable, and fits more people with as much stuff. This is a non-contender except for those who think the Honda logo brings automotive nirvana. </p>
<p>An automatic 2.4l Sebring is only at 3MPG less. What is this car&#8217;s reason for being? </p>
<p>The patriot 2.0 can drive through a puddle without falling in, and still matches this car&#8217;s mileage.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: wave54</title>
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		<dc:creator>wave54</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ plunk10:

You make it sound as though the Accord and Fit are close in price and fuel mileage. The base 2009 Fit 5-speed (non-Sport trim) lists at $15220 including destination charge.

http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/2009-honda-fit-2.htm

A 2009 Accord EX-L 5-speed sells for $26090 with destination. The base LX 5-sp is still over $21K.

http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/2009-honda-accord-2.htm

Actual mileage figures from owners on fueleconomy.gov run about 5 mpg higher on the equivalent Fit vs. Accord.</description>
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<p>You make it sound as though the Accord and Fit are close in price and fuel mileage. The base 2009 Fit 5-speed (non-Sport trim) lists at $15220 including destination charge.</p>
<p><a href="http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/2009-honda-fit-2.htm" rel="nofollow">http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/2009-honda-fit-2.htm</a></p>
<p>A 2009 Accord EX-L 5-speed sells for $26090 with destination. The base LX 5-sp is still over $21K.</p>
<p><a href="http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/2009-honda-accord-2.htm" rel="nofollow">http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/2009-honda-accord-2.htm</a></p>
<p>Actual mileage figures from owners on fueleconomy.gov run about 5 mpg higher on the equivalent Fit vs. Accord.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Weaver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicholas Weaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, you WILL probably be able to testdrive it.  My sister testdrove before purchase, and she got one of the early ones.  Call around and ask.</description>
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		<title>By: netrun</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/honda-fit-hits-dealer-lots-ebay-now-the-markups-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-726232</link>
		<dc:creator>netrun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@polpo: Generally, OEM tires are not going to be the best for NVH simply because they need them to be cheap, long-lasting, and get good EPA numbers.  If you buy nicer tires known for their low noise you will 9/10 times be much happier.  Once in a while a car just stays loud because there isn&#039;t any foam in the wheel wells to reduce the tire noise or some other cost/weight saving measure.</description>
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		<title>By: psarhjinian</title>
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		<dc:creator>psarhjinian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;A Fit is a great message carrier’s car in the city.
But it ain’t no Mazda3.
It ain’t sporty…really.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/em&gt;
You see, this is where I disagree.  I&#039;d say that it is sporty, especially next to the 3.  The Fit is, if anything, closer in experience to Mazda&#039;s Protege, which despite not putting up the 3&#039;s numbers, was more fun to actually drive because of the lack of sophistication.

I think you need to drive, say, the Yaris (or worse, the Aveo or Accent) to understand what an un-fun-to-drive small car really is.</description>
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<blockquote>A Fit is a great message carrier’s car in the city.<br />
But it ain’t no Mazda3.<br />
It ain’t sporty…really.</p></blockquote>
<p></em><br />
You see, this is where I disagree.  I&#8217;d say that it is sporty, especially next to the 3.  The Fit is, if anything, closer in experience to Mazda&#8217;s Protege, which despite not putting up the 3&#8217;s numbers, was more fun to actually drive because of the lack of sophistication.</p>
<p>I think you need to drive, say, the Yaris (or worse, the Aveo or Accent) to understand what an un-fun-to-drive small car really is.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: plunk10</title>
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		<dc:creator>plunk10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m happy with the 31mpg of my 2004 Accord EX-L 5-speed manual.  I&#039;m not sure why the Fit commands such a high price when it sees well under 40mpg.  I&#039;m sure that has been covered here before though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I&#8217;m happy with the 31mpg of my 2004 Accord EX-L 5-speed manual.  I&#8217;m not sure why the Fit commands such a high price when it sees well under 40mpg.  I&#8217;m sure that has been covered here before though.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: polpo</title>
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		<dc:creator>polpo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve had a 2007 Fit for little over a year and half. The mileage is good, but not great (especially with the auto transmission), but we&#039;ve hauled many a large thing in the back. As for highway driving, it drives quietly and comfortably all day long &lt;em&gt;on good roads&lt;/em&gt;. On the relatively good blacktop you see in most areas, it does fantastic. On roads have large-aggregate asphalt (I&#039;m looking at you, I-5 in Oregon), or a poorly-maintained concrete (I&#039;m looking at you, CA-85) the noise can get pretty punishing on long-term drives. I&#039;m wondering if a change from the stock tires would fix this issue. The stock tires are pretty grippy and make the car decently tossable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->We&#8217;ve had a 2007 Fit for little over a year and half. The mileage is good, but not great (especially with the auto transmission), but we&#8217;ve hauled many a large thing in the back. As for highway driving, it drives quietly and comfortably all day long <em>on good roads</em>. On the relatively good blacktop you see in most areas, it does fantastic. On roads have large-aggregate asphalt (I&#8217;m looking at you, I-5 in Oregon), or a poorly-maintained concrete (I&#8217;m looking at you, CA-85) the noise can get pretty punishing on long-term drives. I&#8217;m wondering if a change from the stock tires would fix this issue. The stock tires are pretty grippy and make the car decently tossable.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ppellico</title>
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		<dc:creator>ppellico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I said before...there is no such car as a car that does it all.
A Fit is a great message carrier&#039;s car in the city.
But it ain&#039;t no Mazda3.
It ain&#039;t sporty...really.
And don&#039;t expect it to be your highway car.
It is what it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Like I said before&#8230;there is no such car as a car that does it all.<br />
A Fit is a great message carrier&#8217;s car in the city.<br />
But it ain&#8217;t no Mazda3.<br />
It ain&#8217;t sporty&#8230;really.<br />
And don&#8217;t expect it to be your highway car.<br />
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		<title>By: quasimondo</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/honda-fit-hits-dealer-lots-ebay-now-the-markups-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-725602</link>
		<dc:creator>quasimondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought you people wanted smaller cars.  What gives?</description>
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		<title>By: ppellico</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/honda-fit-hits-dealer-lots-ebay-now-the-markups-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-725592</link>
		<dc:creator>ppellico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comparing a Mazda3 hatch to a Fit...
Good God, come on ya&#039; all!
If SIZE is all that matters, well...I guess a lot of us guys lose there!

And yes, my ass is bigger than that of the euro trash&#039;s.
That&#039;s where I win with size!
But I still pamper it!
And don&#039;t go there with the third world streets...I actually have and often.
The Fit is not used on the third world roads outside the city.
It would die.
Its a city get around go cart like all the city transports they have.
Not exactly a US hiway cruizer.
But I am not ashamed of my love of the highway and long drives across country.
I just know what I need to do this.
Its not a Fit.
No matter how many of my suitcases it will hold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Comparing a Mazda3 hatch to a Fit&#8230;<br />
Good God, come on ya&#8217; all!<br />
If SIZE is all that matters, well&#8230;I guess a lot of us guys lose there!</p>
<p>And yes, my ass is bigger than that of the euro trash&#8217;s.<br />
That&#8217;s where I win with size!<br />
But I still pamper it!<br />
And don&#8217;t go there with the third world streets&#8230;I actually have and often.<br />
The Fit is not used on the third world roads outside the city.<br />
It would die.<br />
Its a city get around go cart like all the city transports they have.<br />
Not exactly a US hiway cruizer.<br />
But I am not ashamed of my love of the highway and long drives across country.<br />
I just know what I need to do this.<br />
Its not a Fit.<br />
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		<title>By: cgd</title>
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		<dc:creator>cgd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too am not sure why, if I&#039;m going to consider a SUBcompact, that I wouldn&#039;t be getting more MPG since I&#039;d be sacrificing room.  I have a Civic and get 32 combined, more on the highway.  Yes, the Fit is cute, but I agree that it&#039;s a bit on the expensive side for a subcompact.</description>
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		<title>By: fellswoop</title>
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		<dc:creator>fellswoop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From another thread on this, I just want to repost these facts about the economy/cargo hauling capabilities of this car: 

Mazda 3 5 door max cargo space 43.8
Honda Fit max cargo space 57.3 &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;(more than a Bummer H3!!)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

Mazda 3 MPG 22/29
Fit Sport (5sp) MPG 27/33

I don&#039;t believe there are any other cars for sale in the USA that have that ratio of extremely usable cargo space &amp; mileage. 

For the record, I too am perpetually steamed that we don&#039;t get the HB configured Civic, but the Fit does have more utility going for it even if both were in this market. 

&amp; the &quot;Not suited for USA highways&quot; comment is just embarrassing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->From another thread on this, I just want to repost these facts about the economy/cargo hauling capabilities of this car: </p>
<p>Mazda 3 5 door max cargo space 43.8<br />
Honda Fit max cargo space 57.3 <em><strong>(more than a Bummer H3!!)</strong></em></p>
<p>Mazda 3 MPG 22/29<br />
Fit Sport (5sp) MPG 27/33</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe there are any other cars for sale in the USA that have that ratio of extremely usable cargo space &amp; mileage. </p>
<p>For the record, I too am perpetually steamed that we don&#8217;t get the HB configured Civic, but the Fit does have more utility going for it even if both were in this market. </p>
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		<title>By: Megan Benoit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megan Benoit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want one, and I&#039;m pretty sure I&#039;ll like it, but i&#039;ll be damned if I&#039;m not going to drive one first.  A car is the second most expensive thing people buy, behind a house.  Why the hell would you buy one without even driving it first?  It&#039;s a pretty freaking expensive mistake if you don&#039;t and it ends up being crap.

We&#039;re kind of down to one of these bad boys, a TSX, an Si, or a new WRX.  Got until the end of october to pull the trigger... good times.</description>
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<p>We&#8217;re kind of down to one of these bad boys, a TSX, an Si, or a new WRX.  Got until the end of october to pull the trigger&#8230; good times.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: nudave</title>
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		<dc:creator>nudave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;ttac2000:
not really suited for American roads.
I would love to hear some elaboration on this comment.&lt;/em&gt;

Perhaps he means shitty, deteriorating highways and unsafe bridges we have neglected for too long?

I&#039;d say the Fit is more than robust enough to survive here, just like in the third world.

Or just maybe, the comment was a polite way of saying the Fit is too small for the average American ass?

See:

http://sidesplitters.catastrophe.net/arch/2004/Paris-France.jpg
http://sidesplitters.catastrophe.net/arch/2004/Paris-Kentucky.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>ttac2000:<br />
not really suited for American roads.<br />
I would love to hear some elaboration on this comment.</em></p>
<p>Perhaps he means shitty, deteriorating highways and unsafe bridges we have neglected for too long?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say the Fit is more than robust enough to survive here, just like in the third world.</p>
<p>Or just maybe, the comment was a polite way of saying the Fit is too small for the average American ass?</p>
<p>See:</p>
<p><a href="http://sidesplitters.catastrophe.net/arch/2004/Paris-France.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://sidesplitters.catastrophe.net/arch/2004/Paris-France.jpg</a><br />
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		<title>By: ttac2000</title>
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		<dc:creator>ttac2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;not really suited for American roads.&lt;/i&gt;

I would love to hear some elaboration on this comment.</description>
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