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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Here&#8217;s your ticket.  Oh&#8230; and here&#8217;s your gasoline bill.&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Frank Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/heres-your-ticket-oh-and-heres-your-gasoline-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-531672</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 11:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If fuel prices should drop &lt;em&gt;below&lt;/em&gt; the price they used when figuring their fuel budget - meaning they won&#039;t have to spend as much as they projected -  will they refund the difference to the taxpayers?  

(Pardon me while I roll on the floor in fits of laughter at my own insane comment.)</description>
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		<title>By: kjc117</title>
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		<dc:creator>kjc117</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Freaking Nazi&#039;s.</description>
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		<title>By: Droid800</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/heres-your-ticket-oh-and-heres-your-gasoline-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-530271</link>
		<dc:creator>Droid800</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So they&#039;re paying for gas that would be used regardless of if the cops actually pulled any one over? 

I can&#039;t imagine this would stand up to a direct legal challenge; The police and cities will not be able to justify charging those that get pulled over for the gas that would have been pumped regardless of if they actually pulled anyone over. Its like asking taxpayers to pay for something that they&#039;ve already paid for.</description>
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<p>I can&#8217;t imagine this would stand up to a direct legal challenge; The police and cities will not be able to justify charging those that get pulled over for the gas that would have been pumped regardless of if they actually pulled anyone over. Its like asking taxpayers to pay for something that they&#8217;ve already paid for.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: GS650G</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/heres-your-ticket-oh-and-heres-your-gasoline-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-530102</link>
		<dc:creator>GS650G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if you win the case in court does the taxpayer get stuck with the bill?</description>
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		<title>By: golden2husky</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/heres-your-ticket-oh-and-heres-your-gasoline-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-529682</link>
		<dc:creator>golden2husky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If motorists are going to get hosed for the police using their taxpayer supplied equipment, the police should impose a surcharge on fat cops.  After all, excess weight kills mileage, so if your officers look like Jabba the Hut, take $12 a day for excess wear and tear on equipment.  A simple paycheck deduction.  Post tax, please.</description>
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		<title>By: pfingst</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/heres-your-ticket-oh-and-heres-your-gasoline-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-529632</link>
		<dc:creator>pfingst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From TFA:

&lt;i&gt;Katie Harris, 20, a babysitter and student at Georgia Perimeter College, doesn&#039;t like the new fines. &quot;It always seems like government officials are trying to take money from citizens&#039; pockets,&quot; she says.
&lt;/i&gt;

And yet they continue to vote for the money-grubbing thieves...

&lt;i&gt;
Holly Springs Mayor Tim Downing says: &quot;This is a self-taxing system. If you don&#039;t break the law, you don&#039;t pay the tax.&quot;
&lt;/i&gt;

Typical bureaucratic response. Here&#039;s one of my own: thieving pigs. Greedy stealing bastards. How about they prove that it actually cost them $12 to run me down? That&#039;s asking too much, though, isn&#039;t it. They&#039;re the government, they don&#039;t have to prove anything.</description>
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<p><i>Katie Harris, 20, a babysitter and student at Georgia Perimeter College, doesn&#8217;t like the new fines. &#8220;It always seems like government officials are trying to take money from citizens&#8217; pockets,&#8221; she says.<br />
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<p>And yet they continue to vote for the money-grubbing thieves&#8230;</p>
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Holly Springs Mayor Tim Downing says: &#8220;This is a self-taxing system. If you don&#8217;t break the law, you don&#8217;t pay the tax.&#8221;<br />
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<p>Typical bureaucratic response. Here&#8217;s one of my own: thieving pigs. Greedy stealing bastards. How about they prove that it actually cost them $12 to run me down? That&#8217;s asking too much, though, isn&#8217;t it. They&#8217;re the government, they don&#8217;t have to prove anything.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ZoomZoom</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/heres-your-ticket-oh-and-heres-your-gasoline-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-529432</link>
		<dc:creator>ZoomZoom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;William C Montgomery :

Great! Do you get to charge the city a fuel surcharge every time you stop and idle at a red light?&lt;/strong&gt;

I believe we SHOULD have the right to charge cities, counties, and states for inefficient traffic management practices, one of which is allowing unskilled, inattentive, and just plain incompetent drivers to use the roads, and another of which is making three directions sit and wait for the no-traffic direction&#039;s green light to cycle through it&#039;s fixed-setting.

This is inexcusable, and the taxpayers have no redress.

It&#039;s true, government agencies have a monopoly when it comes to traffic management.  You and I cannot invent a new traffic management system and bring it to market in a free and capitalistic manner, 

For that reason, I think governemnts have a responsibility to provide an efficent solution.  Until then, yes, I really think we should be able to invoice the local authority for traffic ineffencies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><strong>William C Montgomery :</p>
<p>Great! Do you get to charge the city a fuel surcharge every time you stop and idle at a red light?</strong></p>
<p>I believe we SHOULD have the right to charge cities, counties, and states for inefficient traffic management practices, one of which is allowing unskilled, inattentive, and just plain incompetent drivers to use the roads, and another of which is making three directions sit and wait for the no-traffic direction&#8217;s green light to cycle through it&#8217;s fixed-setting.</p>
<p>This is inexcusable, and the taxpayers have no redress.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true, government agencies have a monopoly when it comes to traffic management.  You and I cannot invent a new traffic management system and bring it to market in a free and capitalistic manner, </p>
<p>For that reason, I think governemnts have a responsibility to provide an efficent solution.  Until then, yes, I really think we should be able to invoice the local authority for traffic ineffencies.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: RedStapler</title>
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		<dc:creator>RedStapler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aside from their high(er) fuel consumption the life cycle cost on the Panther platform cars is fairly low.</description>
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		<title>By: carguy</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/heres-your-ticket-oh-and-heres-your-gasoline-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-528961</link>
		<dc:creator>carguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bluecon - you beat me to it!</description>
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		<title>By: picard234</title>
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		<dc:creator>picard234</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;William C Montgomery : 
June 20th, 2008 at 9:45 am 


Great! Do you get to charge the city a fuel surcharge every time you stop and idle at a red light?&lt;/em&gt;

AMEN!  This is such a racket it&#039;s unreal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>William C Montgomery :<br />
June 20th, 2008 at 9:45 am </p>
<p>Great! Do you get to charge the city a fuel surcharge every time you stop and idle at a red light?</em></p>
<p>AMEN!  This is such a racket it&#8217;s unreal.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Banned User</title>
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		<dc:creator>Banned User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should be a donut tax.
The cop is about 100 pounds overweight.</description>
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		<title>By: 50merc</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/heres-your-ticket-oh-and-heres-your-gasoline-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-528391</link>
		<dc:creator>50merc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dhanson865 asked, &quot;Should our police cars look like the French?&quot;

That&#039;s a sharp-looking little Peugot patrol car. I wonder if it&#039;d carry all the gear American police put in their cars, but anyway it&#039;d be interesting to see a life-cycle cost study of how a Peugot or VW compares to a Crown Vic Interceptor.</description>
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<p>That&#8217;s a sharp-looking little Peugot patrol car. I wonder if it&#8217;d carry all the gear American police put in their cars, but anyway it&#8217;d be interesting to see a life-cycle cost study of how a Peugot or VW compares to a Crown Vic Interceptor.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: SupaMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>SupaMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good show William.

That means I can claim all this gas use to my taxes eh?

I swear these people come up with such &quot;genius&quot; ways to rip people off.</description>
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<p>That means I can claim all this gas use to my taxes eh?</p>
<p>I swear these people come up with such &#8220;genius&#8221; ways to rip people off.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: dhanson865</title>
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		<dc:creator>dhanson865</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should our police cars look like the French?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/French_Police_p1230006.jpg</description>
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		<title>By: Landcrusher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Landcrusher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MD, you are on the right track. Just wait for the calls from the citizens to put all the traffic cops on 600cc motorcycles. When they can&#039;t find enough cops to take the job, maybe they will reconsider the whole surcharge.</description>
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		<title>By: Matthew Danda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Danda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a brilliant way to draw attention to the massive fleet of gas hogs operated by the US Government. 

Dump the Crown Vics and start driving Focuses!!!</description>
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		<title>By: dean</title>
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		<dc:creator>dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good one, William.  Or how about being idled in construction delays?</description>
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		<title>By: William C Montgomery</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/heres-your-ticket-oh-and-heres-your-gasoline-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-527841</link>
		<dc:creator>William C Montgomery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great!  Do you get to charge the city a fuel surcharge every time you stop and idle at a red light?</description>
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		<title>By: Stein X Leikanger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stein X Leikanger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And soon we&#039;ll have the rubber tire wear surcharge if there&#039;s squealing during the chase?

BTW - the markets first responded with lowering the price of oil when the Chinese hiked the price of gasoline, then they realized this meant the Chinese weren&#039;t getting enough gasoline for industrial use, and that they wanted to reduce private use -- which means oil is scarce, which means the price goes up again.</description>
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<p>BTW &#8211; the markets first responded with lowering the price of oil when the Chinese hiked the price of gasoline, then they realized this meant the Chinese weren&#8217;t getting enough gasoline for industrial use, and that they wanted to reduce private use &#8212; which means oil is scarce, which means the price goes up again.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jaje</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know that&#039;s a bargain if you lead them on a high speed chase as they will spend well over $12 to catch you!</description>
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