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		<title>By: hD</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/hammer-time-witch-croft/comment-page-1/#comment-1502213</link>
		<dc:creator>hD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 23:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the Chrysler dealers in my area that got axed had his inventory on the lot for a couple of weeks before shutting down completely. I think the cars still might be there.

Meanwhile the Hyundai wholesaler down the street is runing a scheme where he&#039;s giving away a truck load of Accents; I think 10 in all.

Who is going to buy all these cars that are piling up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->One of the Chrysler dealers in my area that got axed had his inventory on the lot for a couple of weeks before shutting down completely. I think the cars still might be there.</p>
<p>Meanwhile the Hyundai wholesaler down the street is runing a scheme where he&#8217;s giving away a truck load of Accents; I think 10 in all.</p>
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		<title>By: simonisback01</title>
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		<dc:creator>simonisback01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, selling Chryslers at the prices they listed was basically a form of conning, so I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if they did after shutting down. 

GS650G: I visited Weathers Dodge twice in my lifetime, once a few years back and once during the wind-down. Both times everything they offered was overpriced, and overall the place was fairly trashy and dingy. It was also the only dealership I have been to where people stand outside and smoke cigs all day.</description>
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<p>GS650G: I visited Weathers Dodge twice in my lifetime, once a few years back and once during the wind-down. Both times everything they offered was overpriced, and overall the place was fairly trashy and dingy. It was also the only dealership I have been to where people stand outside and smoke cigs all day.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: 50merc</title>
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		<dc:creator>50merc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>notapreppie: &quot;what’s to stop them from titling the vehicles in their own name and selling them as used?&quot;

I suppose it&#039;s the expense of registration fees and tags. Possibly even sales tax, depending on the state. Of course, the profit margin on used cars is higher than on new ones, so maybe the dealer can con customers in paying enough over invoice to still make a buck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->notapreppie: &#8220;what’s to stop them from titling the vehicles in their own name and selling them as used?&#8221;</p>
<p>I suppose it&#8217;s the expense of registration fees and tags. Possibly even sales tax, depending on the state. Of course, the profit margin on used cars is higher than on new ones, so maybe the dealer can con customers in paying enough over invoice to still make a buck!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: notapreppie</title>
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		<dc:creator>notapreppie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the dealer was left in the lurch with respect to moving the product, what&#039;s to stop them from titling the vehicles in their own name and selling them as used?

Seems to me that would be better than having to sell at auction.

(disclaimer: I know nothing about car sales)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->If the dealer was left in the lurch with respect to moving the product, what&#8217;s to stop them from titling the vehicles in their own name and selling them as used?</p>
<p>Seems to me that would be better than having to sell at auction.</p>
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		<title>By: KixStart</title>
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		<dc:creator>KixStart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GS650G: &lt;em&gt;&quot;I still think taxpayers (not the freeloaders)should be able to select a free car from a catalog in return for 100 Billion in prop ups to the companies.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Absolutely.  And, if you can find an owner of a 2004 Corolla with 75K miles or less willing to take a new Chrysler in trade for it, I&#039;ll just take his Corolla myself and you can keep the Chrysler allocated to me.

I&#039;d also consider Yarises, Civics, Camrys, Accords, Priuses...  Yeah, I&#039;d probably take an Echo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->GS650G: <em>&#8220;I still think taxpayers (not the freeloaders)should be able to select a free car from a catalog in return for 100 Billion in prop ups to the companies.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Absolutely.  And, if you can find an owner of a 2004 Corolla with 75K miles or less willing to take a new Chrysler in trade for it, I&#8217;ll just take his Corolla myself and you can keep the Chrysler allocated to me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also consider Yarises, Civics, Camrys, Accords, Priuses&#8230;  Yeah, I&#8217;d probably take an Echo.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Autojunkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Autojunkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;culled&quot; dealers in the metro Detroit area were not willing to deal. The deals I was being offered were no better than the deal I would have got with my reqular employee discount. 

Of course these &quot;culled&quot; dealers are on the list for a reason. They&#039;ve been known as sheisters for years and always helped give the Chrysler dealer network a bad name. 

Let them die in agony!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The &#8220;culled&#8221; dealers in the metro Detroit area were not willing to deal. The deals I was being offered were no better than the deal I would have got with my reqular employee discount. </p>
<p>Of course these &#8220;culled&#8221; dealers are on the list for a reason. They&#8217;ve been known as sheisters for years and always helped give the Chrysler dealer network a bad name. </p>
<p>Let them die in agony!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: GS650G</title>
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		<dc:creator>GS650G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still think taxpayers (not the freeloaders)should be able to select a free car from a catalog in return for 100 Billion in prop ups to the companies. 

Just leave the keys to the new Malibu in the mailbox when you drop it off.

Weather&#039;s Dodge in Lima Pa was one of the first Dodge dealerships ever, since 1922. Apparently longevity does not get you very much clout, you need to contribute to the presidential campaign of the One to stay in business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I still think taxpayers (not the freeloaders)should be able to select a free car from a catalog in return for 100 Billion in prop ups to the companies. </p>
<p>Just leave the keys to the new Malibu in the mailbox when you drop it off.</p>
<p>Weather&#8217;s Dodge in Lima Pa was one of the first Dodge dealerships ever, since 1922. Apparently longevity does not get you very much clout, you need to contribute to the presidential campaign of the One to stay in business.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ohsnapback</title>
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		<dc:creator>ohsnapback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all a scam - the fire sales, crocodile tears, etc.

Out of the 42,000 cars terminated dealers had to sell, they claimed they sold 16,000 cars and trucks through June 6th.

The reality is that there&#039;s probably over 300,000 cars they have to sell, and they probably sold 12,000, if they were lucky.

The glut of these cars is so immense, wholesalers don&#039;t want them at wholesale prices.

Just wait and watch what happens to new car prices in a few months.

Toyota is paying cargo ships to store new cars off port in California, because they&#039;ve run out of space at the Port of Long Beach to put them on land.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->It&#8217;s all a scam &#8211; the fire sales, crocodile tears, etc.</p>
<p>Out of the 42,000 cars terminated dealers had to sell, they claimed they sold 16,000 cars and trucks through June 6th.</p>
<p>The reality is that there&#8217;s probably over 300,000 cars they have to sell, and they probably sold 12,000, if they were lucky.</p>
<p>The glut of these cars is so immense, wholesalers don&#8217;t want them at wholesale prices.</p>
<p>Just wait and watch what happens to new car prices in a few months.</p>
<p>Toyota is paying cargo ships to store new cars off port in California, because they&#8217;ve run out of space at the Port of Long Beach to put them on land.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Polishdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polishdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Similar situation in Michigan.  One dealer on the &quot;kill&quot; list was a &quot;Bruce Campbell Dodge&quot;, yet they have signs in the window stating 25 years in business and a lot packed full of new cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Similar situation in Michigan.  One dealer on the &#8220;kill&#8221; list was a &#8220;Bruce Campbell Dodge&#8221;, yet they have signs in the window stating 25 years in business and a lot packed full of new cars.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: GS650G</title>
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		<dc:creator>GS650G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A doomed dealer near me combined operations with another dealer that was spared. Nature does find a way, better to merge with a rival and drive the cars across town than go completely under.

If it&#039;s this hard to get rid of these cars imagine the Fiat product. Are government agents going to round people up and force them to buy these cars?

Croft should have cut the sign down and let it fall in the empty lot. Would have made a great video and testament to the times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->A doomed dealer near me combined operations with another dealer that was spared. Nature does find a way, better to merge with a rival and drive the cars across town than go completely under.</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s this hard to get rid of these cars imagine the Fiat product. Are government agents going to round people up and force them to buy these cars?</p>
<p>Croft should have cut the sign down and let it fall in the empty lot. Would have made a great video and testament to the times.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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