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		<title>By: npbheights</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/hammer-time-cheap-tricks/comment-page-1/#comment-1508604</link>
		<dc:creator>npbheights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 05:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@John Williams:

The Cadillac 4.9L V8 is actually a really nice motor in my opinion.  We had a 1991 Deville bought in 1997 with 20,000 miles.   We kept it until 2004 with close to 100,000 miles and sold it to a friend that still has it and loves it and drives it every day.   It became a bit of an oil leaker but we had no major problems with the motor or the car for that matter.  
You probably will need to hit strutmasters.com for some rear shocks that I bet are shot and sagging though.  Especially the 1991-1993 Caddies.</description>
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<p>The Cadillac 4.9L V8 is actually a really nice motor in my opinion.  We had a 1991 Deville bought in 1997 with 20,000 miles.   We kept it until 2004 with close to 100,000 miles and sold it to a friend that still has it and loves it and drives it every day.   It became a bit of an oil leaker but we had no major problems with the motor or the car for that matter.<br />
You probably will need to hit strutmasters.com for some rear shocks that I bet are shot and sagging though.  Especially the 1991-1993 Caddies.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: John Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 03:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone have anything to say about the Devilles and Sevilles with the old 4.9 liter V8?</description>
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		<title>By: skor</title>
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		<dc:creator>skor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two years ago I bought a &#039;92 Seville (4.9) with 58K on the clock for $1,500.  Body and interior were as new, mechanicals needed a bit of wrenching.  $600 in junkyard parts, and several skinned knuckles, and the car runs and passes inspection.   Yes, it was sold to me by a geezer, a WWII vet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Two years ago I bought a &#8216;92 Seville (4.9) with 58K on the clock for $1,500.  Body and interior were as new, mechanicals needed a bit of wrenching.  $600 in junkyard parts, and several skinned knuckles, and the car runs and passes inspection.   Yes, it was sold to me by a geezer, a WWII vet!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Slow_Joe_Crow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slow_Joe_Crow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Minor data point, the 1992 B2200 is actually the last of the Mazda built trucks. The badge engineered Rangers (to get around the &quot;Chicken Tax&quot;) were the 93 and later B2300, B3000, B4000 etc.

Also @ Chuck Goolsbee I believe Toyota did a diesel version of their long bed in the 80s and Ford had a diesel Ranger in 80s as well so maybe a long bed as well but good luck finding either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Minor data point, the 1992 B2200 is actually the last of the Mazda built trucks. The badge engineered Rangers (to get around the &#8220;Chicken Tax&#8221;) were the 93 and later B2300, B3000, B4000 etc.</p>
<p>Also @ Chuck Goolsbee I believe Toyota did a diesel version of their long bed in the 80s and Ford had a diesel Ranger in 80s as well so maybe a long bed as well but good luck finding either.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: npbheights</title>
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		<dc:creator>npbheights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Problem with those era caddies are the engine,  They almost always leak oil which requires atleast 20 hours to fix and the head gaskets crack really easily and is about 30 hours if you can find someone willing and able to fix it.  And what is really sinister about the Northstar is the engine can have a blown head gasket and will run just fine, no overheating, smooth, no missing, no water in the oil... Just uses a gallon of coolant every three days.  What costs several hundred dollars to fix on most cars cost several thousand to fix on a Northstar.  (ps. I drove a &#039;99 Deville for 150K miles)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Problem with those era caddies are the engine,  They almost always leak oil which requires atleast 20 hours to fix and the head gaskets crack really easily and is about 30 hours if you can find someone willing and able to fix it.  And what is really sinister about the Northstar is the engine can have a blown head gasket and will run just fine, no overheating, smooth, no missing, no water in the oil&#8230; Just uses a gallon of coolant every three days.  What costs several hundred dollars to fix on most cars cost several thousand to fix on a Northstar.  (ps. I drove a &#8216;99 Deville for 150K miles)<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Stingray</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/hammer-time-cheap-tricks/comment-page-1/#comment-1508284</link>
		<dc:creator>Stingray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Chuck Goolsbee :
I’d love to find a small-truck with a long bed with Diesel for motive power.&lt;/em&gt;

You&#039;re living in the wrong country.

But you can find them in some parts of Latin America, in Europe, Asia and other high gas prices sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>Chuck Goolsbee :<br />
I’d love to find a small-truck with a long bed with Diesel for motive power.</em></p>
<p>You&#8217;re living in the wrong country.</p>
<p>But you can find them in some parts of Latin America, in Europe, Asia and other high gas prices sites.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: threeer</title>
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		<dc:creator>threeer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually had Carmax quote a sale price for my Fusion...it was dead-nuts what KBB showed for trade-in...no more, no less.  Which is why I&#039;m now selling my 2003 Liberty on my own.

As for the old Caddies...good friend/co-worker of mine has a Deville (I think it&#039;s a 97, as well...maybe a few years older) with over 200k.  He refuses to get rid of it, as it just keeps going and going...folks who own these types of cars tend to drive them easy and do the required maintenance, so they wind up being solid used car purchases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Actually had Carmax quote a sale price for my Fusion&#8230;it was dead-nuts what KBB showed for trade-in&#8230;no more, no less.  Which is why I&#8217;m now selling my 2003 Liberty on my own.</p>
<p>As for the old Caddies&#8230;good friend/co-worker of mine has a Deville (I think it&#8217;s a 97, as well&#8230;maybe a few years older) with over 200k.  He refuses to get rid of it, as it just keeps going and going&#8230;folks who own these types of cars tend to drive them easy and do the required maintenance, so they wind up being solid used car purchases.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Steven Lang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Lang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lang01c@mail.duke.edu</description>
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		<title>By: loverofcars1969</title>
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		<dc:creator>loverofcars1969</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Steven how can you be reached your old dude.edu email address is no longer working. Thanks.</description>
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		<title>By: jerseydevil</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerseydevil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do love old cadillacs.  Fact is, they were/are being used by older folks with money, so your chance of geting nice one are pretty good.  I hope to follow in your footsteps.  

Question tho, here in philadelphia, the city auctions off all sorts of vehicles.  It&#039;s a crapshoot tho, they dont have keys and are all locked, so cant be started.  How do you increase your chances in this environment, other than say looking at it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I do love old cadillacs.  Fact is, they were/are being used by older folks with money, so your chance of geting nice one are pretty good.  I hope to follow in your footsteps.  </p>
<p>Question tho, here in philadelphia, the city auctions off all sorts of vehicles.  It&#8217;s a crapshoot tho, they dont have keys and are all locked, so cant be started.  How do you increase your chances in this environment, other than say looking at it?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: superbadd75</title>
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		<dc:creator>superbadd75</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d love a Deville for that price if I weren&#039;t so worried about the airbag suspension and the lower crankcase oil leak that&#039;s a given with any Northstar. That B Series truck sounds like the buy of the day for me.</description>
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		<title>By: Chuck Goolsbee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck Goolsbee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d love to find a small-truck with a long bed with Diesel for motive power.

--chuck</description>
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		<title>By: Cerbera LM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cerbera LM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brother drove two of them, the first one was a diesel, into the ground. He&#039;s a farmer so the B&#039;s were used and abused but both were tough as nails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Brother drove two of them, the first one was a diesel, into the ground. He&#8217;s a farmer so the B&#8217;s were used and abused but both were tough as nails.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Steven Lang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Lang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carmax tends to offer low prices for the trade-in&#039;s. Many of them will have tricky issues that are not easy (or inexpensive) to solve and others may have body damage issues as well.

They make a LOT of money on the trade-in side. In fact, I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if they make more money on this than their retail sales. They certainly do so on a per unit basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Carmax tends to offer low prices for the trade-in&#8217;s. Many of them will have tricky issues that are not easy (or inexpensive) to solve and others may have body damage issues as well.</p>
<p>They make a LOT of money on the trade-in side. In fact, I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if they make more money on this than their retail sales. They certainly do so on a per unit basis.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: 50merc</title>
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		<dc:creator>50merc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That low-mileage Mazda pickup seems pretty cheap. Of course, two grand was the &lt;em&gt;wholesale&lt;/em&gt; price. Retail would be, what, twice that?

Steven, your insider reports are fascinating. But I&#039;m curious what CarMax &lt;em&gt;paid&lt;/em&gt; for the vehicles, and I suppose that&#039;s never revealed.

Perhaps some of the B&amp;B could tell us about their experiences with selling to CarMax?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->That low-mileage Mazda pickup seems pretty cheap. Of course, two grand was the <em>wholesale</em> price. Retail would be, what, twice that?</p>
<p>Steven, your insider reports are fascinating. But I&#8217;m curious what CarMax <em>paid</em> for the vehicles, and I suppose that&#8217;s never revealed.</p>
<p>Perhaps some of the B&amp;B could tell us about their experiences with selling to CarMax?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: John Horner</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Horner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well cared for used Devilles and XJ8s are sure tempting vehicles.</description>
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		<title>By: Samuel L. Bronkowitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samuel L. Bronkowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My &#039;92 Ranger is still going strong. It&#039;s a great little truck and I&#039;ll buy another if this one ever wears out...</description>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 12:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few years ago my dad bought a Mazda B2200 truck just like that one that also had low miles for $1,500. Then two years later he sold it to a high school kid for again $1,500 and the punk rolled it. Too bad that it met it&#039;s end like that as it was a good little truck.</description>
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		<title>By: commando1</title>
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		<dc:creator>commando1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 12:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless youu&#039;re hobnobbing around up in the stratosphere of &quot;investment grade&quot; cars, desireable older cars have tanked to the point if you&#039;re selling, you can&#039;t decide between selling and crushing.  You can&#039;t take advantage of cash for clunkers because they&#039;re mostly too old. The cheaper &quot;almost-classics&quot;, the domain of Joe Average, won&#039;t live to become real classics because it&#039;s Joe Average that is getting hit the worst now and can&#039;t buy them to fix up and drive around in.  Meanwhile the poor get shnizzled by 0 down/0 trade deals on brand new econo s-boxes and the rich just flip their lease on their &#039;slades for another one.  The whole lower end used car market is in shambles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Unless youu&#8217;re hobnobbing around up in the stratosphere of &#8220;investment grade&#8221; cars, desireable older cars have tanked to the point if you&#8217;re selling, you can&#8217;t decide between selling and crushing.  You can&#8217;t take advantage of cash for clunkers because they&#8217;re mostly too old. The cheaper &#8220;almost-classics&#8221;, the domain of Joe Average, won&#8217;t live to become real classics because it&#8217;s Joe Average that is getting hit the worst now and can&#8217;t buy them to fix up and drive around in.  Meanwhile the poor get shnizzled by 0 down/0 trade deals on brand new econo s-boxes and the rich just flip their lease on their &#8217;slades for another one.  The whole lower end used car market is in shambles.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Stingray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stingray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 12:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not old, but for that money I certainly could use a Caddy with the 275HP Northstar.

Can it make burnouts?</description>
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		<title>By: threeer</title>
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		<dc:creator>threeer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 12:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If my 1997 Toyota Tercel ever dies (hard to believe that it will any time soon), I&#039;m calling you!  I&#039;ve revised my expectations/needs on cars now that my son is a thousand miles away at the Air Force Academy.  I&#039;d rather have a decent running and paid for car in order to save money to be used for airline tickets to and from Colorado Springs.  I&#039;d gladly plunk down $1900 for a B2200 (heck, even $1455 for the old Caddy if it was decent).</description>
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