Comments on: GSA Refuses to Identify Models in Fed’s 17,205 Detroit Purchase

By: CarPerson

CarPerson — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 04:39:43 +0000

Ask for a breakdown where the cars are going and you will get nowhere.

They will go to the department heads for their commuter car instead of to the people in the field putting in 25K miles a year.

Another government pork perk.

By: holydonut

holydonut — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:50:23 +0000

We might as well all submit to the GSA FOIA department… strength in numbers?

http://www.gsa.gov/Portal/gsa/ep/contentView.do?contentType=GSA_OVERVIEW&contentId=11388&noc=T

All FOIA requests for the GSA must be sent to the mailing address or, alternatively, to the email address shown below:

General Services Administration
FOIA Requester Service Center (ACMC)
1800 F Street, NW, Room 3116
Washington, DC 20405
(202) 501-2727 Fax
EFOIA: gsa.foia@gsa.gov

By: long126mike

long126mike — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:01:30 +0000

Shouldn’t our government look for ways to reduce the size of it’s fleet of cars regardless of it’s mileage?

http://www.prnewswire.com/mnr/zipcar/38015/

This smells of someone buying cars to help ‘their customers’ rather than possibly replacing the cars that actually need replacing. We’re in a recession, no?

I think the whole point was to expedite purchases as a form of fiscal stimulus. This administration isn’t following the Hoover playbook.

By: Frank Williams

Frank Williams — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:37:36 +0000

superbadd75
Does Chrysler even have 2,933 fuel efficient cars to buy? I thought they were awash in Rams, 300s, and Chargers.

Except they don’t really have to be all that fuel efficient. Read the final sentence of the press release: “Each new vehicle will have a higher miles-per-gallon (MPG) rating than the one it replaces”

When you’re replacing Suburbans and Crown Vics using that rule, it isn’t hard to make a Ram, Durango, 300 or Charger fit.

By: Facebook User

Facebook User — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:34:45 +0000

Good Luck with the FIA.
If its like here in Illinois, fat chance.

By: jkross22

jkross22 — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:34:04 +0000

Each new fuel efficient vehicle replaces, on a one-for-one basis, operational motor vehicles in the federal inventory that met replacement standards. Each new vehicle will have a higher miles-per-gallon (MPG) rating than the one it replaces.

Shouldn’t our government look for ways to reduce the size of it’s fleet of cars regardless of it’s mileage? This smells of someone buying cars to help ‘their customers’ rather than possibly replacing the cars that actually need replacing. We’re in a recession, no?

Also, the price per vehicle breaks down to just under $16.7k per car spent. How many PT Cruisers, Cobalts, G6’s and other ‘extras’ were purchased to balance out the Panthers?

By: compy386

compy386 — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:28:32 +0000

I’m pretty sure they just don’t have that information yet. It’s the government. I’d shocked if they know what cars they currently own.

By: levi

levi — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:39:56 +0000

Gee, I wonder if this has anything to do with the country of origin for these vehicles . . . TTAC will now file a Freedom of Information Act request.

Go for it, Mr Farago. This should be interesting.

By: 50merc

50merc — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:30:38 +0000

GSA: “at this time we can’t provide any other information than what was in the press release”

In all likelihood, “can’t” means “won’t.” They know a dollar amount, so they can look again at the purchase orders to see what was bought. GSA’s reply is unexcusable arrogance.

By: superbadd75

superbadd75 — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:14:27 +0000

Does Chrysler even have 2,933 fuel efficient cars to buy? I thought they were awash in Rams, 300s, and Chargers.

By: Billy Bobb 2

Billy Bobb 2 — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:14:05 +0000

Or, as Paulie Walnuts replied, “who wants to know”?

By: motron

motron — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:12:27 +0000

Never suspect subterfuge when incompetence is a more likely explanation. I would guess that nobody knows the exact model count that was ordered.

By: Facebook User

Facebook User — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:10:58 +0000

TTAC will now file a Freedom of Information Act request.

Thank you. Will be interesting to read.

…or should we just wait until the June sales numbers are out and the Crown Vic is up 100%?? :)