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	<title>Comments on: GM&#8217;s Extreme Cost Cutting Makeover: Turn Out the Lights</title>
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		<title>By: thetopdog</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gms-extreme-cost-cutting-makeover-turn-out-the-lights/comment-page-1/#comment-887981</link>
		<dc:creator>thetopdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 02:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>joeaverage :

Leaving lights on is so far down the list of wasteful things companies do that it shouldn&#039;t even warrant mentioning.  There are flights from Boston to Philadelphia weekday mornings (approximately a one-hour flight) that cost $1200 for a roundtrip on US Airways.  

These flights are mostly taken by businesspeople that need to be in Philadelphia or New Jersey that day for meetings, and usually expense the cost.  Since most people on these flights are not paying for the flight out of their own pocket, US Airways is free to charge many times what the flight should cost.  The same flight on Delta is about $600 for a round trip.</description>
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<p>Leaving lights on is so far down the list of wasteful things companies do that it shouldn&#8217;t even warrant mentioning.  There are flights from Boston to Philadelphia weekday mornings (approximately a one-hour flight) that cost $1200 for a roundtrip on US Airways.  </p>
<p>These flights are mostly taken by businesspeople that need to be in Philadelphia or New Jersey that day for meetings, and usually expense the cost.  Since most people on these flights are not paying for the flight out of their own pocket, US Airways is free to charge many times what the flight should cost.  The same flight on Delta is about $600 for a round trip.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: joeaverage</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gms-extreme-cost-cutting-makeover-turn-out-the-lights/comment-page-1/#comment-887921</link>
		<dc:creator>joeaverage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 23:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is GM typical for US companies? I was talking to a friend who works for a university and they are terribly wasteful. Whole buildings of hallways lights on 24/7/365. We&#039;re told by our IT department to be sure and leave our computers on all the time. The lab and classroom computers on ALL of the time. Hard drives that never spindown. Monitors that go to screensaver only. Printers on all the time. 

No wonder they are hurting after the state has cut their budget another couple million bucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Is GM typical for US companies? I was talking to a friend who works for a university and they are terribly wasteful. Whole buildings of hallways lights on 24/7/365. We&#8217;re told by our IT department to be sure and leave our computers on all the time. The lab and classroom computers on ALL of the time. Hard drives that never spindown. Monitors that go to screensaver only. Printers on all the time. </p>
<p>No wonder they are hurting after the state has cut their budget another couple million bucks.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: John Horner</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gms-extreme-cost-cutting-makeover-turn-out-the-lights/comment-page-1/#comment-884231</link>
		<dc:creator>John Horner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mikey, I hear your pain.  If management can&#039;t lead by example, it can&#039;t lead at all.  I am royally chapped that the MBAs of our country have taken us right into the iceberg, full speed ahead. This is the &lt;strong&gt;U.S. Unsinkable&lt;/strong&gt; they say. Damn.</description>
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		<title>By: mikey</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gms-extreme-cost-cutting-makeover-turn-out-the-lights/comment-page-1/#comment-883811</link>
		<dc:creator>mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jkross22

   Thank you I was just reading the Black Friday piece.The text and the comments certainly put things in the right perspective.

 Its like the guy bellyaching cause he has got any shoes.Then he comes across a guy with no feet.</description>
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<p>   Thank you I was just reading the Black Friday piece.The text and the comments certainly put things in the right perspective.</p>
<p> Its like the guy bellyaching cause he has got any shoes.Then he comes across a guy with no feet.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jkross22</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gms-extreme-cost-cutting-makeover-turn-out-the-lights/comment-page-1/#comment-883721</link>
		<dc:creator>jkross22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mikey,

Good on you for speaking up, and good luck with the next career move!</description>
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		<title>By: Sajeev Mehta</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gms-extreme-cost-cutting-makeover-turn-out-the-lights/comment-page-1/#comment-883701</link>
		<dc:creator>Sajeev Mehta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad they didn&#039;t switch to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=cfls.pr_cfls&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;compact flourescent bulbs&lt;/a&gt; a few years back, not only would they lower overhead costs but their intense light output would shine the harsh reality on the C-level execs to boot.</description>
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		<title>By: AG</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gms-extreme-cost-cutting-makeover-turn-out-the-lights/comment-page-1/#comment-883651</link>
		<dc:creator>AG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What brave patriot is willing to buy GM just to put it into bankruptcy?  Anyone?</description>
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		<title>By: pariah</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gms-extreme-cost-cutting-makeover-turn-out-the-lights/comment-page-1/#comment-883441</link>
		<dc:creator>pariah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You think 66ºF is cold? I find it a very comfortable temperature.</description>
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		<title>By: 1996MEdition</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gms-extreme-cost-cutting-makeover-turn-out-the-lights/comment-page-1/#comment-883371</link>
		<dc:creator>1996MEdition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you guys my unknown, illegitimate sons?</description>
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		<title>By: Redbarchetta</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gms-extreme-cost-cutting-makeover-turn-out-the-lights/comment-page-1/#comment-883141</link>
		<dc:creator>Redbarchetta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blunozer you must be my long lost brother, we obviously have the same dad.</description>
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		<title>By: JimsTR3</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gms-extreme-cost-cutting-makeover-turn-out-the-lights/comment-page-1/#comment-883011</link>
		<dc:creator>JimsTR3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I am being collossaly naive, but why would anyone in their right mind work for any of these companies?  Why would you voluntarily put yourself in the position these poor folks are in?</description>
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		<title>By: yankinwaoz</title>
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		<dc:creator>yankinwaoz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Australia I&#039;ve seen heaps of on-demand escalators. There is a large green button at the entrance side that you slap to start it. Then it runs for a couple of minutes.

The only quirk with it is that when they aren&#039;t running, people might walk up/down the wrong side. So they also put one-way gates at the exit end.

With this system you can opt not to start it and use your legs instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->In Australia I&#8217;ve seen heaps of on-demand escalators. There is a large green button at the entrance side that you slap to start it. Then it runs for a couple of minutes.</p>
<p>The only quirk with it is that when they aren&#8217;t running, people might walk up/down the wrong side. So they also put one-way gates at the exit end.</p>
<p>With this system you can opt not to start it and use your legs instead.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Blunozer</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gms-extreme-cost-cutting-makeover-turn-out-the-lights/comment-page-1/#comment-882921</link>
		<dc:creator>Blunozer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GM should just hire my dad.

&quot;Jeezus!  I thought I told you to turn the lights out!&quot;

&quot;Who the hell turned the the heat up?&quot;

&quot;Close that door!  We&#039;re not heating all outdoors!&quot;</description>
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<p>&#8220;Jeezus!  I thought I told you to turn the lights out!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Who the hell turned the the heat up?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Close that door!  We&#8217;re not heating all outdoors!&#8221;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Bozoer Rebbe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bozoer Rebbe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whenever I attend the Chicago Auto Show I think about how much energy is used running the escalators at McCormick Place all day long when nobody&#039;s using them, or the impressive water fountains whose pumps require substantial electricity to shoot water many stories into the air.

For the matter, I don&#039;t know why Otis or one of the other escalator companies hasn&#039;t developed an on-demand escalator that shuts off when nobody is riding or about to ride. The notion of running it continuously is tremendously energy wasteful. They can put a sensor pad into the approach to the escalator so by the time a rider&#039;s foot lands on the first step the escalator is up to speed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Whenever I attend the Chicago Auto Show I think about how much energy is used running the escalators at McCormick Place all day long when nobody&#8217;s using them, or the impressive water fountains whose pumps require substantial electricity to shoot water many stories into the air.</p>
<p>For the matter, I don&#8217;t know why Otis or one of the other escalator companies hasn&#8217;t developed an on-demand escalator that shuts off when nobody is riding or about to ride. The notion of running it continuously is tremendously energy wasteful. They can put a sensor pad into the approach to the escalator so by the time a rider&#8217;s foot lands on the first step the escalator is up to speed.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: threeer</title>
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		<dc:creator>threeer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GM is losing billions and they&#039;ve waited this long to decide to look at things like utility bills?  Sheesh, what morons.  I work for a supplier to the heavy trucking industry (and believe me, right now, nobody is buying the big rigs!) and we&#039;ve been analyzing every penny for quite some time now.  We&#039;ve made huge gains in cost savings by simply shutting off the lights and AC for those portions of the operations that aren&#039;t in use.  Times are tough, but it&#039;s amazing at how much impact some good, old-fashioned common sense can make.  Oh, wait a minute...this IS GM we&#039;re talking about...never mind.</description>
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		<title>By: 1996MEdition</title>
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		<dc:creator>1996MEdition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are doing the same at Delphi.  Actually I like the dimness better, good for naps.

Does anyone here remember when GM removed the last &quot;e&quot; in employee in all their internal HR documents to save printing costs.  I started with Remy, then part of GM, in the early 90&#039;s, we were still using a lot of paper documents then.  I remember reading my offer of employment and chuckling at all the missing e&#039;s.  If I remember right, this was part of the employe suggestion program.

Turning off the lights: good idea, mis-spelling words: bad idea.

To GM employes, keep a roll of toilet paper with you, it will become valuable soon, if not already.</description>
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<p>Does anyone here remember when GM removed the last &#8220;e&#8221; in employee in all their internal HR documents to save printing costs.  I started with Remy, then part of GM, in the early 90&#8217;s, we were still using a lot of paper documents then.  I remember reading my offer of employment and chuckling at all the missing e&#8217;s.  If I remember right, this was part of the employe suggestion program.</p>
<p>Turning off the lights: good idea, mis-spelling words: bad idea.</p>
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		<title>By: mikey</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple of weeks ago the hourly people were asked,if they new any ways to cut costs.

 As one could imagine,some of the responses were crude ,imature and just plain unworkable.However some had some merit.

 Senior management drive company supplied Suburbans Yukons/Tahoe&#039;s with gas.It could be argued that nobody buys em anyway,so why not get some use out of them.So why not a Lucerne or a LaCrosse?They ain&#039;t flying off the shelves either,
but the deprecation/gas costs could make a difference.Mangement just shook thier heads and told me to shut my PC down at the end of the shift.

 Hundreds of suggestions had a common theme of slash management, numbers,perks,COMPENSATION!

 Cause I,m on my way out the door,I can be braver.
Why not bring management head count/compensation in line with Toyota and Honda?Rumour has it that the transplants are weathering the storm.

 Right off the top of my head I rhymed off 5 positions that could be axed,with zero impact on day to day operations.I pointed out that back in 1972 the only white collars on the floor were a handfull of hardworking firstline foremen.We didn&#039;t have any need for buisness managers/coordinaters or senior supervisers,shift managers,and god only knows who else.

 Managements response was &quot;mikey,things have changed since 1972&quot;

  I answered that with &quot;right in 1972 we owned 57%
of the market.We were also the biggest most powerfull company on the planet.Yes indeed things have changed.Now here in 2008 wer&#039;e reduced to begging for money.

  I&#039;m confident that after I walked away the  next question from management was,when is that asshole gonn&#039;a retire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->A couple of weeks ago the hourly people were asked,if they new any ways to cut costs.</p>
<p> As one could imagine,some of the responses were crude ,imature and just plain unworkable.However some had some merit.</p>
<p> Senior management drive company supplied Suburbans Yukons/Tahoe&#8217;s with gas.It could be argued that nobody buys em anyway,so why not get some use out of them.So why not a Lucerne or a LaCrosse?They ain&#8217;t flying off the shelves either,<br />
but the deprecation/gas costs could make a difference.Mangement just shook thier heads and told me to shut my PC down at the end of the shift.</p>
<p> Hundreds of suggestions had a common theme of slash management, numbers,perks,COMPENSATION!</p>
<p> Cause I,m on my way out the door,I can be braver.<br />
Why not bring management head count/compensation in line with Toyota and Honda?Rumour has it that the transplants are weathering the storm.</p>
<p> Right off the top of my head I rhymed off 5 positions that could be axed,with zero impact on day to day operations.I pointed out that back in 1972 the only white collars on the floor were a handfull of hardworking firstline foremen.We didn&#8217;t have any need for buisness managers/coordinaters or senior supervisers,shift managers,and god only knows who else.</p>
<p> Managements response was &#8220;mikey,things have changed since 1972&#8243;</p>
<p>  I answered that with &#8220;right in 1972 we owned 57%<br />
of the market.We were also the biggest most powerfull company on the planet.Yes indeed things have changed.Now here in 2008 wer&#8217;e reduced to begging for money.</p>
<p>  I&#8217;m confident that after I walked away the  next question from management was,when is that asshole gonn&#8217;a retire.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Ingvar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ingvar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me get this straight: They are pushing back to past 2010 so they can reach 2010? And then what? Wasn&#039;t it those programms that were due in 2010 that was supposed to save them at that time? Like the Volt, Cruze, Camaro et al? So, what&#039;s going to save them then? Fumes and vapour?</description>
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		<title>By: truthbetold37</title>
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		<dc:creator>truthbetold37</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of the lightbulbs have been taken out of the ceiling.  Plants are losing voicemail.</description>
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		<title>By: MrDot</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrDot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Delaying development of the Malibu and Cruze?  It&#039;s almost like they want to fail.</description>
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		<title>By: Redbarchetta</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gms-extreme-cost-cutting-makeover-turn-out-the-lights/comment-page-1/#comment-882481</link>
		<dc:creator>Redbarchetta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;For your safety, stanchions will be placed at the top and bottom of each escalator. &lt;/em&gt;

WHY? They just become stairs when they are not on.

&lt;em&gt;jaydez&lt;/em&gt; It&#039;s weird how some people and companies think it&#039;s their God given right to use as much energy as they want, even when they don&#039;t need it. I can&#039;t get where I work to stop wasting so much paper and recycle it to save my life. And we go through A LOT of paper being an architecture office. Same thing with electricity, our computers, printers, plotters run 24/7/365. Money wasted I wish I had in my pocket.

It&#039;s sometimes had to believe that this country wasnt this way 60 years ago during WW2.</description>
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<p>WHY? They just become stairs when they are not on.</p>
<p><em>jaydez</em> It&#8217;s weird how some people and companies think it&#8217;s their God given right to use as much energy as they want, even when they don&#8217;t need it. I can&#8217;t get where I work to stop wasting so much paper and recycle it to save my life. And we go through A LOT of paper being an architecture office. Same thing with electricity, our computers, printers, plotters run 24/7/365. Money wasted I wish I had in my pocket.</p>
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		<title>By: menno</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gms-extreme-cost-cutting-makeover-turn-out-the-lights/comment-page-1/#comment-882471</link>
		<dc:creator>menno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Cerberus&#039; Chrysler LLC (worth &quot;zero&quot; but with $11 billion supposedly in hand) should waltz into GM HQ and offer to buy GM for $1 billion, leaving $10 billion to pay the heat and electric bills - I mean, develop cars at the smaller Auburn Hills operation, closing down all GM HQ and merging engineering operations at Auburn Hills, closing down the worst of the Chrysler product factories (you know, about 60-70% of them) and badge-engineer GM products for their dealers on an as-needed basis.  

Then as I mentioned before (half tongue in cheek), simply offer a few vehicles through each sales channel, no more than a few, in order to keep the lawsuits at bay - with nearly no overlap in all of the marques.  

Chevrolet.  Low priced small and medium cars &amp; trucks, Corvette as a halo model. 

Saturn.  Quality small cars.  Toss the Vibe in this batch of cars and the upcoming Cruze.

Pontiac.  Sporty small cars &amp; Firebird (kill Camaro).  

Jeep.  Patroit, Wrangler, Grand Cherokee only.  

Dodge.  Sporty large/medium cars.  Only build Challenger until this generation is finished.

Buick.  For the white shoes and beltline near-nipples set.  

Chrysler.  Luxury minivans and the 300.  (No point in building cheap minivans, since only people with money at hand will soon be buying cars)

Cadillac. Luxury. 

GMC. Pickups.  

Hummer.  Let it die on the vine.  

Saab.  Sink or swim in NA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Maybe Cerberus&#8217; Chrysler LLC (worth &#8220;zero&#8221; but with $11 billion supposedly in hand) should waltz into GM HQ and offer to buy GM for $1 billion, leaving $10 billion to pay the heat and electric bills &#8211; I mean, develop cars at the smaller Auburn Hills operation, closing down all GM HQ and merging engineering operations at Auburn Hills, closing down the worst of the Chrysler product factories (you know, about 60-70% of them) and badge-engineer GM products for their dealers on an as-needed basis.  </p>
<p>Then as I mentioned before (half tongue in cheek), simply offer a few vehicles through each sales channel, no more than a few, in order to keep the lawsuits at bay &#8211; with nearly no overlap in all of the marques.  </p>
<p>Chevrolet.  Low priced small and medium cars &amp; trucks, Corvette as a halo model. </p>
<p>Saturn.  Quality small cars.  Toss the Vibe in this batch of cars and the upcoming Cruze.</p>
<p>Pontiac.  Sporty small cars &amp; Firebird (kill Camaro).  </p>
<p>Jeep.  Patroit, Wrangler, Grand Cherokee only.  </p>
<p>Dodge.  Sporty large/medium cars.  Only build Challenger until this generation is finished.</p>
<p>Buick.  For the white shoes and beltline near-nipples set.  </p>
<p>Chrysler.  Luxury minivans and the 300.  (No point in building cheap minivans, since only people with money at hand will soon be buying cars)</p>
<p>Cadillac. Luxury. </p>
<p>GMC. Pickups.  </p>
<p>Hummer.  Let it die on the vine.  </p>
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		<title>By: toxicroach</title>
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		<dc:creator>toxicroach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, you can kiss the Bu goodbye if its not getting refreshed for 5 years.</description>
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		<title>By: jaydez</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gms-extreme-cost-cutting-makeover-turn-out-the-lights/comment-page-1/#comment-882361</link>
		<dc:creator>jaydez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My company is currently losing money by the ton as well (but we have more than enough to ride out the economy).  I asked my manager why we needed so many lights on in the building.  We could get by with half as many on and save a ton of money every year on electricity.

She didn&#039;t have an answer and said it only costs Pennies to run a light (yeah, pennies, times a few hundred lights).

And this is at a time where they are trying to find every way possible to trim money out of the budget.</description>
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<p>She didn&#8217;t have an answer and said it only costs Pennies to run a light (yeah, pennies, times a few hundred lights).</p>
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		<title>By: KixStart</title>
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		<dc:creator>KixStart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it&#039;s only now occurring to GM to switch off any lights that aren&#039;t in use... what else are they missing?</description>
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