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	<title>Comments on: GM Sales Fall 31 Percent In December</title>
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		<title>By: Richard Chen</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gm-sales-fall-31-percent-in-december/comment-page-1/#comment-1119471</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Chen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123116899078453931.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Via WSJ&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;em&gt;While Ford continued to reduce its sales of low-margin sales to rental-car companies and other fleet customers, GM used fleet sales to prop up its December total as retail sales to individual customers at dealerships fell about 41%.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123116899078453931.html" rel="nofollow">Via WSJ</a>: <em>While Ford continued to reduce its sales of low-margin sales to rental-car companies and other fleet customers, GM used fleet sales to prop up its December total as retail sales to individual customers at dealerships fell about 41%.</em><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Facebook User</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gm-sales-fall-31-percent-in-december/comment-page-1/#comment-1119121</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 03:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meanwhile…there has been a long line of rail car carriers on the siding just north of our plant in southwest MI for at least three weeks. I don’t know who’s vehicles are in them but I really am curious as to whether these cars are on the books as “sold”.
Once a dealer accepts delivery they are sold to the respective dealership. They are not counted as retail sales until that dealership sells or delivers to a retail customer. So the short answer is most likely no they are not sold. Most likely waiting to be shipped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Meanwhile…there has been a long line of rail car carriers on the siding just north of our plant in southwest MI for at least three weeks. I don’t know who’s vehicles are in them but I really am curious as to whether these cars are on the books as “sold”.<br />
Once a dealer accepts delivery they are sold to the respective dealership. They are not counted as retail sales until that dealership sells or delivers to a retail customer. So the short answer is most likely no they are not sold. Most likely waiting to be shipped.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: npbheights</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gm-sales-fall-31-percent-in-december/comment-page-1/#comment-1118502</link>
		<dc:creator>npbheights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 23:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since we talked about Cadillac all day yesterday, what about them?  How much lower were Cadillac&#039;s sales?</description>
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		<title>By: akear</title>
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		<dc:creator>akear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 23:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is funny as the Delta and Epsilon platfrom continue to flop the Impala is still Detroit&#039;s sales king. I read GM even sells more Malibus to the fleets than the Impala!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->It is funny as the Delta and Epsilon platfrom continue to flop the Impala is still Detroit&#8217;s sales king. I read GM even sells more Malibus to the fleets than the Impala!!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: bumpy</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gm-sales-fall-31-percent-in-december/comment-page-1/#comment-1118451</link>
		<dc:creator>bumpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;GM’s total annual vehicle sales for 2008 fell below three million, at 2,980,688.&quot;

GM has been shedding roughly 500k a year since 2004 or so. I think you have to go back to the late &#039;50s to find a yearly total that low.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&#8220;GM’s total annual vehicle sales for 2008 fell below three million, at 2,980,688.&#8221;</p>
<p>GM has been shedding roughly 500k a year since 2004 or so. I think you have to go back to the late &#8217;50s to find a yearly total that low.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ronin</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gm-sales-fall-31-percent-in-december/comment-page-1/#comment-1118352</link>
		<dc:creator>ronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surprised?</description>
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		<title>By: mtypex</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gm-sales-fall-31-percent-in-december/comment-page-1/#comment-1118022</link>
		<dc:creator>mtypex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree - Chevrolet and Cadillac have a future.  GM would be better off just slamming the door on Pontiac-Buick-GMC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I agree &#8211; Chevrolet and Cadillac have a future.  GM would be better off just slamming the door on Pontiac-Buick-GMC.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: TriShield</title>
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		<dc:creator>TriShield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GM is never going anywhere unless Chevrolet takes it there, it&#039;s by far their strongest brand and should have recieved the lion&#039;s share of attention and investment the past decade instead of brands like Saturn.  

Make exceptional Chevrolets and back them with a big warranty like Hyundai/Kia and things could still work out.</description>
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<p>Make exceptional Chevrolets and back them with a big warranty like Hyundai/Kia and things could still work out.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: EJ_San_Fran</title>
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		<dc:creator>EJ_San_Fran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least they are about to do something about inventory: the Q1 2009 production plan is down to a paltry 420K units in North America and only 1.3M units worldwide.

A few years ago in North America alone they produced more than worldwide now.</description>
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<p>A few years ago in North America alone they produced more than worldwide now.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Bunter1</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gm-sales-fall-31-percent-in-december/comment-page-1/#comment-1117861</link>
		<dc:creator>Bunter1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is typical of GM.  If you look at the last few years they tend to go about three down months for every &quot;good&quot; month.  Basically they get so desperate that they give them away.

The overall trendline is the only one that matters.

Meanwhile...there has been a long line of rail car carriers on the siding just north of our plant in southwest MI for at least three weeks.  I don&#039;t know who&#039;s vehicles are in them but I really am curious as to whether these cars are on the books as &quot;sold&quot;.

Bunter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->This is typical of GM.  If you look at the last few years they tend to go about three down months for every &#8220;good&#8221; month.  Basically they get so desperate that they give them away.</p>
<p>The overall trendline is the only one that matters.</p>
<p>Meanwhile&#8230;there has been a long line of rail car carriers on the siding just north of our plant in southwest MI for at least three weeks.  I don&#8217;t know who&#8217;s vehicles are in them but I really am curious as to whether these cars are on the books as &#8220;sold&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: 50merc</title>
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		<dc:creator>50merc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, they&#039;re down 31 percent but the previous December was extremely strong -- right? Last I heard, GM was still &quot;on the road to recovery.&quot; (Or was that &quot;perdition&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->OK, they&#8217;re down 31 percent but the previous December was extremely strong &#8212; right? Last I heard, GM was still &#8220;on the road to recovery.&#8221; (Or was that &#8220;perdition&#8221;?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: BMW325I</title>
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		<dc:creator>BMW325I</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@  jgh : looking forward to Chrysler December sales</description>
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		<title>By: jgh</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gm-sales-fall-31-percent-in-december/comment-page-1/#comment-1117692</link>
		<dc:creator>jgh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@NickR:  Put on your HAZMAT suit - Chrysler&#039;s posting a 50+% faceplant.</description>
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		<title>By: 63CorvairSpyder</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gm-sales-fall-31-percent-in-december/comment-page-1/#comment-1117691</link>
		<dc:creator>63CorvairSpyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank God for the &quot;Red Tag(ink) Sale&quot;. The dealers must love the &quot;Nothing&quot; deals they did write.</description>
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		<title>By: NickR</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gm-sales-fall-31-percent-in-december/comment-page-1/#comment-1117661</link>
		<dc:creator>NickR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would it be strange for me to say that&#039;s better than I anticipated?  I think I will shield my eyes when you post Chrysler&#039;s figures.</description>
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